Video 3/3 "Don't grow a brain, John" has multiple conclusions attached to them

The last paragraph of the JonBenét ransom note is probably the most significant. It reveals Patsy's mindset and tells us who struck JonBenét and who did not do it. #handwritinganalysis #graphology #enneagram #jonbenet
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[@protochris]

I found two things peculiar about John's behavior after discovering the ransom note; He never picked up the note from the staircase, and he never went back to JonBenet's room to check that she was indeed missing. This tells me the scene was staged to separate John from the evidence and the victim, probably meant to make John look innocent and save his professional image and career.

[@DreamsOfFinland]

...to keep the money coming in.

[@jwhite1016aol]

Has anyone pointed out the "don not attempt to grow a brain" line is from Dennis Hoppers character in the movie Speed that came out in 1994 just two years before the Jon Benet murder in late 96?

[@davidwilliams4498]

I'd love to have asked Sherlock Holmes what he thinks of this ransom letter. I tend to believe he would say this was a well planned staged frame against the Ramsey's. Imo I don't think Patsy was dumb enough to use John's bonus amount as ransom...

[@Plainandsimple25]

Hi David, I think Patsy was intelligent in some ways, and not so intelligent in other ways

[@XCodeHelpHub]

I realized this and it was eerie! I'll bet you that is where it cMe ftom.

[@kimbrown5024]

@@davidwilliams4498 you have to realize that Patsy was probably half out of her mind when writing the letter...

[@kaybrown4010]

An innocent parent, upon discovering the ransom note, would have picked it up, read it, and called 911 immediately. Believing that a stranger had broken into your house and made your entire home a potential crime scene, why would you invite others over and thereby contaminate possible evidence the perpetrator left behind?

[@janettepolt2815]

After she found the letter and called the police, she sent Burke to his room-I would NEVER let my other children out of my sight if I thought one was kidnapped. Suspicious.

[@angelikabodie7277]

Good point, pretty early on she sent him to a friend's house. So he wasn't even in the house when the cops and the Ramsey's were "waiting" for that ransom phone call. The police report from that morning also recorded that John didn't stay by the phone , the phone got three phone calls from other people and he was in another room...

[@DebraHarrison-b2x]

@janettepolt2815 Not true Burke was not sent to his room. He went to bed the night before and stayed there until he was sent to the home of one of the Ramseys friends.

[@DebraHarrison-b2x]

​@@angelikabodie7277 That is not true. John was waiting by the phone when the kidnappers were supposed to call. He was instructed by Detective Linda Arndt to ask to speak to JonBenet when the call came.

[@kimgough4839]

10 am came and went and no one cared was observed by Detective Arnt

[@DebraHarrison-b2x]

@@kimgough4839 No one said anything not no one cared. It's nothing significant anyway.

[@berniehayes8425]

If you watch a few interviews you quickly see how often they change their narratives..they cld never stick to one storyline!!! And if you take notice are patsy uses her verbage when shes feeling cocky and confident the theres a big similarity between her verbage and how the 3 page novel was written... If this wasnt a well known very rich family the parents would have definitely been done and in jail!!!!

[@linaleblanc8288]

You got that right

[@strawberryseason]

Money buys freedom. OJ wasn't convicted either.

[@baddie1shoe]

I’ve always thought that one interview with her is so theatrical-amusingly and notably so.

[@slawck9635]

This was the best analysis of this case I've seen. I've never seen the note pulled apart on an emotional lvl this way before and it all makes way more sense. ( The handwriting is obviously hers ) it's been obvious for decades but why and who she was doing it for is where the mystery remained in this almost like yes one of the 3 in the house obviously did this but proving which one of the 3 was the reasonable doubt hurdle in this case. Well that and some people can afford great attorneys and let's not forget John was a Lockheed martin supplier with his company. Back in 96 that didn't register very high but now we know Lockheed is trusted with government secrets that even Congress doesn't know about. There was every reason for big players to want this forgotten about

[@janettepolt2815]

Poor little girl, never got justice in this world.

[@ANITAACRUZ]

I agree with your analysis, it's the only thing that makes sense to me after all these years

[@MarcelElfers]

Thank you, Añi.

[@ANITAACRUZ]

@@MarcelElfers Of course I've been listening to you for over 2years now. Great work. And I also think that detective with the two cadaver dogs in the Madeleine McCann case had it right 🥂

[@jennilang2464]

I lived in Denver when this happened, and it was such a horrible nightmare. That poor little girl. Those pageants locally were trashy. I know because they were at every mall, trying to wrangle me into letting my little one do them. I'll also say that their house was no palatial estate, and it was always a hot, cluttered mess, which was because I feel patsy liked her addictions. She and John are not upper-class, nor were the elegant folk.

[@jayclark5912]

Its a crime how few subs this channel has. Great content.

[@MarcelElfers]

thank you. Much appreciated.

[@elainebatchev3008]

Amazing analysis

[@charlenekendall913]

Listen here, listen up, listen to me, all southern speech. Oh, don't grow a brain, also a southern phrase. Then theres the mention of southern common sense. This note was written by a female with southern roots. Im from Appalachia and i know southern talk.

[@MarcelElfers]

Yes. I can see that.

[@charlenekendall913]

Let's see here, we have accent marks, punctuation, grammar, correct spellings (except for those 2 obvious first ones), then, we have a southern hospitality something going on there. No one has mentioned that. A kind of southern politeness towards the end. Hmm. Yeah, no small foreign faction is gonna be talking like that.

[@briancoleman971]

I’ve said this from the beginning. Obvious southern, feminine, and with the same sort of head bobbing cockiness that Patsy portrayed in interviews when pressed.

[@janloftness]

Wasn’t Patsy Miss West Virginia?

[@zovalentine7305]

You are an expert forensic analyst and author. Insightful intellect!Thank you!!

[@martaaldama6419]

Your explanation makes sense. You’ve painted a clear picture of what possibly happened.

[@zovalentine7305]

Expert forensic analysis 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@ColinJ88]

I have always been convinced that the two parents were united in their deception to save their remaining child, and coverup any involvement he may have had. You bring up great points though and I’d have to agree on this theory of yours. The ransom note will always be the key to this case, it’s just there, waiting to unlock the truth.

[@MarcelElfers]

I remain open to the possibility Burke struck her. But, after some 15 years (since 2007) of looking into this, it has become increasingly unlikely he had anything to do with it. We may never know the details of that night.

[@AApr1374Jo1881]

@@MarcelElfers the grand jury evidence said Burke did it & the parents covered it up. per the 4 true bills Ramsey indictments.

[@vicksta8875]

If we Take The Randsome Note Away..... It still points to both parents involement. Still points( all forensics) towards Patsy... Although, I Still feel, John WAS SEXUALLY ABUSING JB...

[@vicksta8875]

@@MarcelElfers FBI investigators specifically said the "Cords" were a part of "Staging". The point= Making what "Really"went down, appear much more brutal, that a parent Could or Would Never do what had been done to Jonbenet. This definitely worked.

[@donnyspringer860]

It's possible that Burke caused the head injury but not very probable given everything that came afterwards. First, as a minor he couldn't be held accountable so there's not much to cover for. They could have easily minimized his actions as an accident and also made sure he wasn't taken from their custody. Secondly he was released unsupervised to the White's very early on. As a kid he could have easily slipped up and said something that would incriminate him. Thirdly, it seems unlikely that the parents knew he had mental issues with violent tendencies that they would allow him contact with other kids, in school or in private, that he may act out again. I just don't see Burke as likely to have done it. I think people mostly believe that because he is a bit of an awkward oddball but that isn't really uncommon or noteworthy. He seems like a fairly intelligent and adapted person.

[@davidfigueroa6351]

Again Mr. Elfers. You knocked it out of the park (as baseball fans say in America). Great work.

[@MarcelElfers]

Thank you. Your comment is encouragement.

[@talentmanager4707]

I’ve studied this case for many years. Your insight is excellent and unique. May I add that if you watch the interviews of John and Patsy, they fit the proven examples of being deceitful: 1. They use formal language 2. They use generic, non-naming words 4. They look in the interviewer’s eyes too much 5. An honest person is cooperative 6. They’re withdrawn 7. They give too much detail

[@MarcelElfers]

Your points (1-7) are on point. Also, watch the interviews and both John and Patsy show an increase in anxiety once Patsy’s involvement is brought up. And that is in multiple interviews. Thank you for your input.

[@talentmanager4707]

@@MarcelElfers Thank you. Yes, I noticed that (the increase in anxiety regarding Patsy).

[@MaxZed1101]

I love your videos. I had a thought about the letter. I wonder if it was written with the threat to not call the police to cover for John and Patsy actually calling. "Well if they wrote the letter, they'd know not to call the police right away." The thing, I think was written to maybe be as confusing as possible and muddy the waters. Just a thought.

[@MarcelElfers]

Imo, the note was written as they expected to be able to move her body outside the home but somehow failed (time restrictions) or could not for another reason. Psychologically speaking it is difficult to throw out your child as “trash” and if not found, she would not get a “proper burial” (used in the note).

[@debrahouse7807]

@@MarcelElfersI believe the reason they couldn’t take her out of the home, Burke went downstairs. He would have seen them.

[@davidfigueroa6351]

By Patsy writing that ridiculous ransom note, to me it shows that she was extensively involved in the murder. (I don't believe that she caught John and then just blindly agreed with him in the cover up) Why would she go to such lengths if she didn't do it? The whole thing by both parents was an act. I believe that Patsy in a sudden rage accidently killed her daughter and panicked. He panicked and they made up the kidnapping story. The intruder story is complete garbage.

[@strawberryseason]

​@@davidfigueroa6351 you are correct. It was Patsy alone.

[@maureendibari2384]

I wish the investigators listened to your analysis

[@jenniferjohnston4403]

Fascinating content!

[@lexingtonlad5745]

Crazy to think the mother took this guilty knowledge to her grave.

[@DreamsOfFinland]

likely the guilty knowledge pushed her cancer to death bed. John looks so smug in his new life, still daring media to challenge his story.

[@Arcticnick]

The Deception Detective, podcast provides a great statement analysis which I think you might find intriguing.

[@MarcelElfers]

Thank you for this recommendation. I’ll check it out.

[@08Stella]

Wow... this really is a MASTERCLASS. Well, if you present it like this, I believe it. I am also one of those who considered them innocent. After this presentation, I can see the "accident" part but not that they are cold-blooded murderers. Simply because the police stated that she didn't die from the wounding - if we believe that version - then are you suggesting they went on their knees and strangled her with a cord. That's extreme. This was a late child and the youngest, so they adored her. The wife could have just asked for hundred thousand, there was no need to "murder" their own precious daughter for it. That's just silly... HOWEVER, if there was and accidental death (or almost), I can see that she wrote a note to the husband - as a warning - to go along with the 'kidnapper' story, otherwise she'll accuse him of incest. THAT, is why she possibly looked it up, to make sure it is "only" touching inappropriately, not necessarily intercourse (kind of a blackmail, not necessarily becuase it happened in real, - and she had to make sure that it wasn't "rape" of what she was going to accuse him with, because then he surely won't go along with anything she says). That'd make sense.. but poor babygirl. Imagine her last 30 seconds. Horrific. Waht if she was still breathing, still conscious and hearing everything, even if not moving. Poor darling. In EUROPE, this story is less known, more familiar with the MADELEINE "kidnapping". There, it is clear as daylight that they did it. Do you have something on that too? xx.. PS. didn't the police state that the handwriting didn't match that of the wife's and that the DNA wasn't at all a match to any family member, nor friends? That's why I thought, this they couldn't have done it. DNA doesn't lie!! Although they could have been paid off of course to say anything to the public... X

[@MarcelElfers]

Tbe DNA was touch DNA. Very limited and anyone touching anything will leave skin cells behind. That DNA is not necessarily from the (non-existing) intruder. In any handwriting case, there will be those who point out differences and others who pint out the similarities. There were 8 experts stating Patsy wrote the note. As an expert witness myself, I came up with so many similarities that it’s impossible to he-she e been anyone else other than Patsy.

[@08Stella]

​@@MarcelElfers There was a comment once "SANTA did it". I thought it was a joke, but after looking into it a bit, it very well could be. He could have been in the house already and because she recognized him, she didn't scream. Plus, many people had key. .. but you sound certain. That's a strong accusation. Whose was the unidentified DNA then? I wonder. Someone somewhre touched her inappropriately unknown to everyone involved it sounds. As well as blood stains that didn't belong to anyone. So, if there was blood on her, why that person didn't leave marks anywhere else? The head cut begs many questions as well. It was as big/long as her head. That's quite a hit.... quite a power from someone. This is so frustrating. Hopefully someone's consience will be strong enough soon to confess. After all this time STILL all we have is speculations, hints, suggestions and theories.. poor girl. What an incredible tragedy.. xx..

[@zappababe8577]

I never thought of the letter as being a coded message from Patsy to John before now, but that makes so much sense! When you also take into consideration that how Patsy was perceived by the rest of the world was incredibly important to her, it all slots into place. So, either Patsy accidentally killed Jonbenet or Burke did, and Patsy was covering it up. It's rather clever to use a ransom note to pass a message to John right under the noses of the Police, but with what Patsy should to lose - her liberty, or the liberty of her son, and either way - the vilification of everyone around her - I daresay Patsy's mind was working very quickly for a possible way out for the family to receive sympathy rather than abuse.

[@TheJD616]

Does anyone have any thoughts on all of the movie references in the ransom note? Was Patsy or John a big movie buff? You would think that they would have to be movie buffs because in order to recite all of those lines used in the ransom note, they would have had to see those movies multiple times in the past; because I have a hard time believing that they decided to have a kidnapping movie marathon following the death of their daughter if they owned the movies.

[@XCodeHelpHub]

Yes from Speed 1994, Do not attempt to Grow a Brain is said by Dennis Hoppers character.

[@AllisonLansberry]

They were, especially Patsy to have quoted several lines in several movies. The idea for the note was in another movie.

[@claudiarocco4132]

Great analysis,thank you!

[@MarcelElfers]

Glad you liked it!

[@Lisa-mw6te]

The don't grow a brain is from a movie they had watched.

[@Garry-h9j]

Apparently no one reacted.10 am call came and went.??*She did,and he hid it.😢

[@DreamsOfFinland]

several weird quotes from the ransom note were lines in a bedside table book in Ramsey's bedroom. They also had stacks of movie videos, years ago someone said lines from movies in their collection were used in the book.

[@valerielock2374]

Watch leeza Gibbons show clip . Very interesting ! Pyhcologist says a person with cancer wrote it because it has a lot of references to it. Seen it when i looked up Steve Thomas.

[@MarcelElfers]

That is a new one. I don’t see it. Can you elaborate?

[@valerielock2374]

​​​@@MarcelElfers video on ...The Ramsey Case ...youtube .very interesting. Leeza Gibbons show . Explains a lot about Christmas card before too.

[@angelakyle4838]

I wonder though why the mother would have had to coerce the father if there had been a seemingly incestuous situation - would he not have been more than willing to go along with the plan as, more than likely, questions would be asked and his alleged inappropriate behaviour would have been exposed to everyone?

[@MarcelElfers]

That is an insightful question. Thank you for asking and I struggled with that answer myself. Here is what I’m thinking. A dictionary was found on the coffee table. It’s page was dog eared, and the corner of the page pointed to the word incest. Somebody looked up the definition of incest. This implies that if Patsy indeed interpreted John’s behaviors as incestuous that she wasn’t sure whether the behavior was befitting the definition of incest. Therefore, John would have an open door to walk through. He would claim there was no incest, and she would stand trial for murder. And so, Patsy had to coerce him into cooperation, because the only thing at stake for John was his social reputation. To me, it is something in that vein. They kept each other in check that way.

[@agag3449]

I thought about this when I first started studying the case but then I quickly realize that the family doctor is likely in on her abuse, not saying he’s doing it, but I think he’s overlooking it. Think about how many times that child was brought in for some thing that would definitely look like possible sexual abuse, and nothing was done or sad? He was also prescribing Patsy medication’s when he is a child doctor. I think that John was abusing her and he wasn’t afraid of being found out because he knew the doctor would back him up so she had to make it seem like no I am going to get you in trouble for what you did. If you tell anyone I killed her or accidentally killed her

[@debrahouse7807]

I’ve always believed that the parents killed her, I do also believe that John was molesting Jonbenet, Patsy caught him, tried to hit John, John moved then Jonbenet was hit........I also believe that John staged everything............ ( he strangled her, he did the the garrote. Then on her genitalia part, he tried to hide the SA ) the S.B.T.C was to let John know that she would tell everything. This is so sad! I would have arrested John. I do believe that John used Patsy’s painting brush to have them think she did it, but he knew he had to protect Patsy when Patsy says there were two people that knew, the one that killed Jonbenet and the one the killer confessed to. John helped her write the letter. He wasn’t going to jail .... He thought Patsy would?

[@bekoff713]

I believe the coercion was to get John to go along with covering for Burke. I don't believe she could stomach the "incestuous" relatiinship/abuse claims that would come out in the event her son was held to account.

[@camisedlak417]

Thank you for this amazing analysis! It's very persuasive. Could you touch on a couple of things for me: Who do you think (which parent) fashioned and used the garrote, when and why? That is, if they believed she was already dead/dying. How do we explain the additional site of her bladder having let go outside of the wine room door? I was wondering if, during the time John is unaccounted for on the morning of the 26th, he might have notice JB was still warm and used the garrote then. Why do you think Burke hid in his room all morning? If the evidence that JB may have been assaulted with a paint brush is believed, which parent did that and when? And what about the undigested, but recently consumed pineapple? What object do you think Patsy may have had in her hand when lashing out at John? Thanks!

[@MarcelElfers]

John is likely for the garrote. They were planning to move the body outside the home and had to make it look like the kidnappers used a garrote to kill an alive child. When she received the blow to her head, she lost sphincter control. The bladder empties in stages through gravity as the bladder is not contracting. John went missing for an hour and an hour after that “he found the body” in full rigor mortis. She was dead for at least 6 hours.

[@DebraHarrison-b2x]

@camisedlak417 Yes according to Steve Thomas JonBenet wet the bed. Then she wet herself when she was struck on the head. Then she wet herself in the room where she was found. A big bladder for a 6 year old girl.

[@zovalentine7305]

Rest in powerful peace 🙏 JonBenet Patricia Ramsey 6 August 1990 ~ Christmastime 1996⚘

[@polarvortex3294]

The mystery is quite fascinating, and it seems that sometimes the tragic death of Jonbenet gets lost in the evidentiary shuffle. Also lost sometimes is the fact she was a real person with hopes, fears, and human potential. I'm glad you are out there to help remind us of these important facts and re-ground us once again.

[@kimbrown5024]

Wow.. this whole confusing death of little Jon Benet has become very clear! A case I've been pondering over for years.... Thank you for your logical and clear analysis...

[@MarcelElfers]

Thank you. I established my theory back in 2007 and was prodded by a close friend to make it public. She was severely abused in her childhood. I dedicated my book (2021) to her in the foreword.

[@kimbrown5024]

@@MarcelElfers I also think if Burke had been the one who had hit Jon Benet, why would John and Patsy let Burke get interviewed by the police like a day or two after... Wouldn't they have been afraid Burke might slip and say something, being a 9 year old. and here Patsy and John waited like 3 or 4 months to give any interview to the police. so the more I think about it, the more sense your analysis makes.

[@ruslankhozouzmusic]

Dear Marcel I have studied the Johnbenet case for years and i think I solved the mystery! I would like to share my theory with you as soon as possible. The scenario that i have come with fits all the pieces together and everything makes sense! How can i contact you?

[@MarcelElfers]

Email [e-mail] Put in subject line JonBenét

[@ruslankhozouzmusic]

@@MarcelElfers thank you so much

[@ruslankhozouzmusic]

@@MarcelElfers i sent you an email today.

[@lovehealthappinesspeace]

I watch a guy called deception detevtive, you guys should collaborate; very interesting and when you go through things it does make sense. Glad I found this analysis too.

[@d.j.robinson9424]

What was the name of the training camp John was stationed at in the Philippines ?

[@gunwu9084]

Some things do not add up: According to the autopsy, the blow to the head and the strangulation happened basically at the same time or only minutes apart with the strangulation starting before the blow to her head. Therefore the Garotte must have been made in advance bc it takes a while to tie all these special knots and break the paintbrush which was located in the basement. The cause of death was strangulation, not the head wound. JB was conscious and alive when she got strangled bc she grabbed to her neck and tried to loosen the cord and fought against her killer. The severity of the head wound was not visible thus neither parent could have told that it was a lethal blow and John had most likely called 9-11 had it happened like you suggest. - Therefore, the blow to the head must have occurred in the basement and not in JBs bedroom and cannot have been an accident.

[@MarcelElfers]

Wecht and Lee had opposing opinions.

[@vicksta8875]

Just one POINT. Jonbenet WAS previously and ongoing SeXUALLY Abused... The end 😢

[@MarcelElfers]

Although there is no proof of that, circumstantial evidence points in that direction. And I believe it to be true. I made that clear in my book, “JonBenét, the final chapter” in the ”author’s note”.

[@russmontgomery9110]

What makes this case so challenging,is the different spins you can get,by listening to so called experts.This man sounds convincing.then you listen to Lou Smits,the first retired detective that was renown,for solving cases.who was brought in.He was absolutely convinced the parents had nothing to do with the killing,and quit,because the police wouldn't listen to him.The Ramseys both took lie detector tests,and passed,with no signs of deception shown.If they seemed so anxious at times of questioning,as this man states,there's no way,they both tricked the lie detector.When you listen to Smit's side,he sounds perfectly believable.I'm not saying either way,is right,no one will ever no,it's too late,now.One of the biggest,if not the biggest mystery ever.

[@MarcelElfers]

There is one undeniable issue we all have to deal with. Patsy wrote the note and that makes “Lou Smit” saying “Ramseys had nothing to do with it” false. It is impossible to write exactly like someone else with over 200 similarities in details. We can argue what really happened that night and we may never know. But she wrote the note.

[@Whipporwhill]

The Ramseys took "private" lie detector tests conducted by a polygrapher whom they hired, FOUR YEARS after Jon Benet was murdered.These tests were not considered reliable by the Boulder police as they were not conducted by certified or qualified professionals as they normally would have been in such cases by the FBI.

[@AllisonLansberry]

No the original lie detector tests were " inconclusive". I read somewhere Patsy failed one which John passed. 9:50 The only tests the Ramseys both passed were ones they hired someone else to give. It's fairly easy to pass a lie detector test with these tools & certain drugs to calm you & lower your blood pressure

[@janloftness]

There are two facts that prove the Ramseys were in involved: the note was obviously written by Patsy and their refusal to cooperate with police. Innocent parents would more than willing to cooperate and would be pestering the police for updates. I remember when this happened and have gone back and forth with my opinions. The Ramseys did it, someway somehow, but they did it.

[@bobbiebelvel635]

Why hasn’t the fact been brought up that the unusual ransom demand amount of $118,000 is the actual amount of John Ramsay’s annual corporate bonus?

[@MarcelElfers]

You make a good point re the fact the 118K was the bonus amount. True. This has been brought up many times and gets pushed somewhat in the background because there are far more relevant subjects than this dollar amount.

[@janettepolt2815]

I wonder why they would request that amount when it looks so obvious.

[@bobbiebelvel635]

@@MarcelElfers I would think only John, his employer and, of course Patsy knew what the amount of his bonus would be.

[@davidwilliams4498]

If you asked Sherlock Holmes he might say was Patsy dumb enough to use John's bonus amount in a cover up ransom joke letter

[@catherinetighe7813]

I now think that was done on purpose to put off the cops Very clever. Embedded confession

[@saucy-23-minx]

I thought her handwriting matching was compelling evidence it was her. Why wasn't there an arrest?

[@MarcelElfers]

The DA supported the Ramseys and treated them with white gloves.

[@mysurfing3550]

John smiles every time he talks about that day. I believe he regularly s.a her, and he accidentally went too far. He didn't mean to go too far, but it was the best memory of his life and he relives it.I think John wrote the note trying to sound like Patsy or they wrote it together. They are both very narcissistic and they would want to hide any imperfections.

[@MarcelElfers]

Patsy wrote the note. John has been eliminated as the author.

[@mysurfing3550]

@@MarcelElfers Probably, but John is intelligent but clearly extremely psychopathic. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility he did it to make everyone else look guilty. Dude is profoundly dark (I am a child abuse survivor so I can easily spot that John is by miles the most dangerous person that family). I would put all my chips on the John did it Ramsey Roulette table.

[@MarcelElfers]

@mysurfing3550 not probably. John has been eliminated as the author of the ransom note. I am a forensics handwriting expert and I, as well as many others, agree that he is not the author. For the rest, his SA is a distinct possibility and I believe that is very well what happened that night.

[@lindawilliams2276]

I think Burke hit JonBenet in the head with the flashlight in the kitchen and the rest of your analysis makes a lot of sense. I don’t think Patsy could have mistakenly hit JonBenet in the head with her hand to make a dent and cracked her head. And Patsy was the mastermind with everything else. They did whisk Burke out of the house so he could not say what happened.

[@kimbrown5024]

I understand your theory... but my problem with it, the parents allowed Burke to get questioned by the police like a day or two afterwards.. wouldn't they have been afraid that Burke would slip or something with the questioning.. and here the parents waited for like 4 months or so before letting themselves get questioned by the police.

[@MarcelElfers]

@kimbrown5024 not only that, the parents - let B leave with friends Dec 26th in the am … - let B go to school unsupervised after xmas break … Why would any parent take the risk that - if there was intruder for their other kid being targeted -if B knew what happened he could slip up Makes zero sense

[@terribeauchamp7266]

Mr.Elfers, what do you think led up to Patsy's accidently killing Jonbenet?

[@MarcelElfers]

Patsy (reportedly) had a long history of emotional reactivity. Burke also said, “mum goes psycho”. Poor emotional regulation is basically poor coping strategies based on unresolved trauma. Patsy was suspicious of John, who has been described as a “ladies man”. When Patsy was in the hospital, her maid visited and told her she found a blond hair in her bed. On Dec 25th, Patsy walked in on John with JonBenét and interpreted the scenario as sexually inappropriate. Reliving her past, she reacted instantly and swung at John with a heavy object with a force to hit an adult. There are multiple behavioral indicators after accidentally hitting JonBenét that point to John being extremely sensitive towards Patsy’s involvement. It comes too close to the truth and his exposure.

[@shinyhrtache]

I FIND THIS PLAUSIBLE UNTIL I RECALL THERE WAS SEMEN ON HER PANTIES. IT WASN’T JOHN’S OR BURKE’S.

[@MarcelElfers]

@shinyhrtache nope. Unknown DNA. No semen.

[@GraemeRalph56]

I found your analysis very well thought out. But I think the garrotte is a crucial point. What was the point of the garrotte, and who would of tightened it so tightly around her neck? The garrotte has a very complicated knot, a garrotte likes this is often used by a sexual sadist to torture the victim. i can't see either parent covering for the others use of a garrotte. So I think your half right Patsy and John created a cover up to protect Burke whom they thought killed Jon Benet when in fact there was an actual intruder who killed Jon Benet. The garrotte was the proof of the intruders presence.

[@theobjectivethinker64]

Great analytical mind, I wonder if you consider taking a look at cases such as Madeleine MCann or even Nicola Bulley, what your opnions on those might be.

[@brandonkersis2012]

Find this video troubling.... perhaps it's a paid endorsement because your comment 'whether invest occurred or not is irrelevant' frankly goes against the entire premise of all your other intelligent assumptions. Those assumptions which are taken completely against most the commentary of the family. So why would you assume so definitively these was no prior sexual abuse because... 'the family said so.' This doesn't add up and I'm confident you know know it, or you are complicit in some way. Taking one look at the article regarding Jon Benet prior sexual assault titled 'setting the record straight regarding sexual abuse claims in the case of Jon Benet Ramsey' (title may not be correct) - however you will know the article I'm referencing if you are keen to finding it or not because it pretty much does exactly what it says it does and SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT. Find it, have a read, the premise of sexual abuse puts this entire case together and it's the reason and explanation for everything that went down. Don't silence this poor girl after her death like others silence so many others who have experience sexual abuse. I won't allow it - her body told her story - I think it's gross that you blame just Patsy and her emotional reactivity and/or personality disorders in the same way that you tell the story of Jon Benet. I can see why we have so much female activism.

[@MarcelElfers]

Paid endorsement: that’s a leap ha ha. Whether incest happened or not is irrelevant. In my theory, patsy believed it was happening whether real or perceived. She swung at John accidentally hitting JonBenét. Do I believe incest occurred? That’s a possibility.

[@lanataylor4229]

Marcel - I have watched all 3 videos in this series - why are you so sure it was Patsy who killed Jonbenet and not BURKE? She would have been highly motivated to cover up for Burke’s accidental murder of Jonbenet. She did not want to lose two children in the one night. She had to save one of them. As a mother, that’s a greater motivation than self-preservation. Wdyt??

[@MarcelElfers]

Thank you for watching the videos and your thoughtful question. I agree with you that protecting Burke would be an equal, if not stronger, motivation for the Ramseys to cover things up. Why do I favor Patsy? - she wrote the note. (I am an expert witness in the field of handwriting authentication). The language in the note coerces John to cooperate. It is unlikely for John not to cooperate to protect Burke. Second, Patsy was the most motivated since she wrote the note. - Burke was almost 10 and went to school unsupervised after Christmas break. That would be an enormous risk for them to take. - Burke would have folded eventually in the police interviews. - The Ramseys let Burke go to friends while police was in the house on December 26th. That would also be an enormous risk for them to take. - the 911 call had a child’s voice on it. It appears (I am not so sure about this one) they said, “we are not talking to you” to not involve him. Lastly, if John had done it, he would also not have to be coerced in the note and he would have written the note himself. Of course, we are putting the puzzle together and there may be other details we are not considering. Yet, something happened that was so significant that they felt the need to cover it up. And to me, my scenario fits that bill. Patsy struck at John and accidentally struck JonBenét. The rest is history.

[@dorothyhinkel185]

Imo Burke hit her over the head when she snatched a piece of his pineapple. Then all chaos broke out. Pasty screamed and John came dor

[@dorothyhinkel185]

Oops. J came downstairs and knew she could not live because his sa would be discovered. B was sent to bed. They had a lot to lose. J took her to the basement and finished her off. Pasty probably came down to help him stage the crime. When they were done they came up with the ransom note. J dictated at least part of it. Then they started to invite their "friends" over. I'd like to see what their phone record looked like.

[@MarcelElfers]

Possible. But is it plausible? Explain in this scenario why Patsy, from the get go, had to coerce John into cooperation?

[@damnlimpnickis509]

​@@MarcelElfers I think there are many reasons John wouldn't want to go along with this ruse. It was nuts! Given his success in business, he was probably a logical thinker. He also had just lost a child 5 years prior. Who could think clearly after a 2nd trauma of that magnitude. The bookmark had nothing to do with John IMHO. You would use other words like CM, pedophile, molester reharding your spouse. There would be few questions if it was the dad . Would you need a book? If they knew someone else in the home was SA her, that would be shocking, confusing. They would still feel compelled to cover it up for many reasons. The Grand jury felt that they didn't protect her and held some responsibility but didn't charge them. Why? They stood by and allowed bad acts to come to her. All speculation of course. Will we ever know? I agree with you to keep it simple in analyzing.

[@MarcelElfers]

@damnlimpnickis509 I agree with you on that point. But what ever the reason was, …, patsy was coercing him against his will. And succeeded! And that suggests she knows something about him that he does not want to be public. There was no intruder. What else could it be? The floor is yours. Ideas are welcomed befitting these criteria.

[@damnlimpnickis509]

​@@MarcelElfers You use the word coerce but another word such as emotional blackmail would get the same cooperation from him but for a different reason. If he doesn't cooperate, a negative outcome will befall yet another family member and it will be his fault if he doesnt go along and gets authorities involved. 1 2 3. Horrible guilt. Patsy was fierce in her interviews. I always felt like she was the force to be reckoned with in the interviews. I sensed that she, not John was the Alpha in the family. This may be a stretch but if JB had been SA, John would get blamed no matter who did it. I don't know the laws in CO but it would have been hard to overcome a LOT of stigma even if an accident occurred.

[@danabyrd2377]

I told you John Ramsey didn't go to bed that night!!!

[@davidro9883]

During the 911 call she told the police that Burke was still sleeping but you could hear him talking in the backgroiund during the call. One lie all lies!

[@kathleenroth1092]

Your absolutely right.

[@janettepolt2815]

What about the supposed use of the taser?

[@MarcelElfers]

There was no taser. The two dots do not match taser material for two reasons. First, a taser gun shoots two hooks and leaves a puncture which was not present. Second, a handheld pressed against the skin typically has “wound travel” as the body violently shakes. Also not present.

[@janettepolt2815]

WOW! those bastards. How could they live with themselves? I always wondered about the taser. thanks for clearing that up.@@MarcelElfers

[@gunwu9084]

@@MarcelElfers So what did the Ramseys use then instead that caused the marks? Also: when was the Garotte made bc the blow and the strangling happened basically at the same time. Its even said, the strangulation happened first. BC JB grabbed to her neck and tried to free herself of it.

[@valerielock2374]

One thing i noticed... John said. He knew she would be famous but didnt know it would be for this . Were they staging a kidnapping to make her FAMOUS and accidently hurt her ...Patsey already knew he was messing with her , didnt say or do anything because she couldnt do nothing.

[@jasmine91alexa]

This was great, but this theory completely ignores the vaginal injuries, paintbrush material, and the reports of Burke whittling wood w his Swiss Army knife

[@AllisonLansberry]

The paint brush wasn't used to sexually abuse her it was used in the garotte that she was strangled with. John was an expert with wood carving & also in the military( garottes were used) & tying knots. The vaginal injuries were used to cover up the sexual abuse by most likely John & possibly a friend of his. For everything you mentioned, there are other explanations.

[@GraemeRalph56]

What about the stun gun injuries, not a like a tasar a stun gun does not use hooks. I find it hard to believe that one of the parents would construct a garrote and tight that around the neck of their six year old lying on a cold basement floor until she was dead when they could of just suffocated her. The garrote killed her not the trauma to her head. The last point is what of the girl who lived in the neighbourhood who was sexually assaulted in her bedroom by an intruder three months later? This girl actually knew Jon Benet and also participated in beauty pageants, that's quite a coincidence.

[@MarcelElfers]

There was no stun gun. There are two types: one shoots shoots needle like projectiles and there were no puncture wounds. The other has electrodes pushed against skin and there was no wound travel. In my scenario, a plausible theory, JonBenét was hit on the head and the parents believed she was dead. In their panic, and for a strong motivational reason, they decided to cover it up. They used a garrote to make it look like she was killed by strangulation (by the intruder) and for her body to be found later outside the home. In their panicked mind, and in the belief she had passed already, this was mere staging for them to benefit from. The covering up of their involvement and avoid prison.

[@GraemeRalph56]

I found your analysis very well thought out. But I think the garrotte is a crucial point. What was the point of the garrote, and who would of tightened it so tightly around her neck?@@MarcelElfers

[@MarcelElfers]

@GraemeRalph56 the garrote stunt me initially as well. It took me years to understand the way behind it. The Ramsey accidentally killed JonBenét. They decided to cover it up because something else was more important like, for instance John molesting JonBenét ., Patsy struck JonBenét. Or maybe they covered for Burke, unlikely, but still a possibility. They believe JonBenét was.dead after she was struck, and decided to make it look like a kidnapping. With a dead body and a kidnapping, the kidnappers would have taken her with them. But they had to make it look as if the kidnappers had killed JonBenét. Ramses intended to move the body outside the house for law enforcement to find later to have been killed by kidnappers with the garrote. The Ramseys ran out of time and decided hide the body in the house while they were not thinking straight. Reality is, her body was not found initially so the hiding spot must have been a good one. In essence, the garrote was placed on a, what they believed was, a dead body. They made it look like the kidnappers did this and for her body to be found later outside the home.

[@KaleidoCult]

Jonbenet wasn't accidentally killed. She was strangled to death, that's not an accident.

[@MarcelElfers]

The strangulation was indeed willful and deliberate. And yet, the blow to the head came first and was not meant for JonBenét. This is where her death became accidental. The parents believed she was dead after the blow to the head and then staged.

[@KaleidoCult]

Jonbenet had defensive wounds on her neck. Little fingernail scratches. This indicates she was struggling and thus the killer knew she was still alive.

[@MarcelElfers]

@KaleidoWitch the neck defensive wounds are a myth. Reality is, she was unconscious when she was staged. The duct tape on her mouth had a “perfect lip print” (see Steve Thomas) and says she was not awake anymore when placed on her mouth. The blow to her head came first. And for her to scratch her neck trying to defend herself while the garrote was placed is simply not true. There was some DNA under her finger nails which in and by itself is irrelevant since we all do have our own DNA and can have DNA from other under our nails from incidental contact.

[@r-trippin5078]

Nobody I can think of would stay with the woman that killed their child. But cover for a 9 year old more plausible to me.

[@dsmthbb]

Everything screams the patents did it except the garrote. That screams intruder, unless John is a sadistic maniac.

[@MarcelElfers]

Yeah. Hard to imagine.

[@chiararomano1818]

She was dead already from being struck and the garrote was just misdirection.

[@chiararomano1818]

She was dead already from being struck and the garrote was just misdirection.

[@dsmthbb]

@@chiararomano1818 seems like a stretch that someone would come up with that after the fact but it’s possible. I don’t know what the noose looked like but you have to learn how to do a good one.

[@chiararomano1818]

@@dsmthbb An intruder would have been a more viable theory except that the letter was clearly written by patsy. And, once you’ve decide to cover-up a murder, you’re in for a penny, in for a pound. The garrote wouldn’t be beyond someone desperate for misdirection. The noose is a very odd thing but if it’s too intricate for patsy or John to make, what would make it easier for a stranger who broke in the house and is trying not to be discovered?

[@bambacska]

I think this letter is from John to John , written by Patsy. Decteted by John. This is my projection.

[@catherinetighe7813]

I think they are innocent because they don’t fit the profile of cruel maniacs. Unless they are actors,who should get an academy award, they are convincing. Why would they use a garrotte around their little girl’s neck and watch her little fingers desperately trying to get get it off. It is too horrific to contemplate.

[@MarcelElfers]

There are many offenders that an outsider looking in would say, “does not fit the profile”. Ted Bundy was handsome, intelligent, charming Jeffrey Dahmer was quiet, reserved, and gay Elliot Rodger was handsome, intelligent, a loner BTK, Josef Fritzl, and Gary Ridgway were married and their wives were unsuspecting. Susan Smith (about to be paroled) was a doting mother Ariel Castro, a school bus driver, was no suspect. Not even by his brother. Ted Kaczynski was a genius and a loner Josh Powell a quiet reserved man eventually derailed after doing the unthinkable And the list goes on and on

[@angelsalgado1984]

The theory sounds good but here is a problem that I see. Patsy was a Christianwho more than likely would believe in death bed confessions. If this was about her and John, she would have confessed on her death bed. The only way that she wouldn't is if she was protecting her son.

[@timhazeltine3256]

Plenty of Christians have gone to their deaths without confessing their crimes.

[@tiffsaver]

One thing is clear: The Benet's were the most inept criminals in history.

[@Skye-r3r]

Well actually not true. Those bastards never spent a day in jail for their crime

[@billsmith6707]

Who are the Benets

[@zovalentine7305]

Rest in powerful peace 🙏 Patricia Ann Ramsey 29 December 1956 ~ 24 June 2006⚘

[@davidfigueroa6351]

Karma got her..