The Most TERRIFYING Story in ALL God of War - The Hidden Story of Odin's Ravens + The Raven Keeper

[@stevent3676]

For those wanting the full context: All of Odin's Ravens from GoW 2018 and from Ragnarok (53 in 2018 (you only need 51, but there's 1 extra raven in Konunsguard and 1 extra in the river pass area) and 48 in Ragnarok (so 101 ravens in total)) are the souls of dead human children, who, for one reason or another were sacrificed by their own parents to Odin or to honor Odin, and each were killed by being hung. These souls were then gathered up by the Raven Keeper at Odin's command, and their souls twisted and bound into servitude and to be his eyes and ears across 8 of the 9 realms. In addition to having hung himself at the Well of Urd and wandered the realms as a spirit for knowledge, the 101 children being hung as sacrifices to him is the other main reason why he's sometimes referred to as Lord of The Hanged.

[@marywilcox3102]

And people say God of War Ragnarok has no depth, ha!

[@tpruss97]

Yep, yep, there is no redemption from that. Freya was right from the get go, fuck staying out of it like Kratos, fuck trying to win him over like Atreus. There are some people whom the world is just better off without, Odin is one of those people.

[@marywilcox3102]

@@tpruss97 100% agree.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Jesus Christ…

[@LichtTempler]

@@TheCorrodedMan, what? Did he do the same?

[@defender2222]

I always got the sense that in the Norse Saga Kratos never truly hated any of his foes. He would fight them to protect his son and his friends but if they had merely turned away and not sought him out he wouldn't hunt them down. That he was no longer the man that sought destruction. ...except when he learned of the Raven Keeper. Then, and only then, did the Kratos of Greece and the Kratos of Midgard merge into one, both halves of him united in hunting down and slaying that being.

[@t-rexcellentreviews1663]

I agree, though I’m pretty sure he hated Odin just as much after he killed Brok, he specifically states that he would not regret killing the All-Father after that, straight to his face.

[@vincentwilliams2314]

Kratos is definitely a fuck around find out type person

[@housecoatgaming]

Gaia: After the destruction of Greece, Kratos, the man known as the Ghost of Sparta, buried his past, buried his rage and sought control over it, to be the better man. No longer would he be a slave to fury. Not even when his exile was discovered by Odin did Kratos surrender to the old ways. He hated no enemy he fought in his quest. Magni and Modi, he pitied. Baldur, he felt regret for this reflection of his past. Only Odin would he hate...until he discovered the origin of the Ravens. For one so bound to the duty of fatherhood, Kratos of Midgard looked within himself to see that the Ghost of Sparta was reborn...but his fury and hate would be turned not to self-serving vengeance, but justice for those this Raven Keeper had wronged so dearly...

[@Whatisright]

A lot of God of War wouldn't have happened had some of the gods just ante'd up. It's like the thugs or goons who think they're going to be the one who kills Batman or John Wick. At some point the rest all asked for it, but these games are about big egos and overcoming or going through them

[@gilbertotabares8196]

And Odin dared call Kratos a monster. Well, takes one to know one as they say.

[@shoresean1237]

If it takes Godzilla to end Ghidorah, then go Godzilla.

[@gilbertotabares8196]

@@shoresean1237 I like that. Well said.

[@shadowboy2818]

i think he's even worse...i doubt kratos would even condone child murder even when he was younger...

[@snakethejake97]

Kratos pretty much had to, Odin chose to.

[@godzillaslayer5817]

@@shoresean1237a Godzilla reference under a god of war video, niiice

[@biorobot2]

I guess now it makes sense that Freya kept Odin’s noose to use it for the final fight … All-Fucker had it coming ….

[@mr.omnidragon5757]

Odin: What did you call me?

[@KaijuDinoLover26727]

@@mr.omnidragon5757 Mimir: THATS ONES FOR BROK

[@MaloneJ374]

The part at 5:34 the utter chill In kratos voice, when he says yes just shows the gap difference between him and Odin. Kratos has done a lot of horrible things in his life, but even he was taken back from Odin actions, to pervert the souls of children was too much even for kratos.

[@Baptisteog18]

Despite the atrocities Kratos committed, in seeking vengeance against the Greek pantheon, at least he never went as far as to intentionally harm children and corrupt their souls.

[@lythronax8439]

“How many people need to suffer until you are satisfied?! Not everything bends to your will.” -Asura

[@thekiller989]

I thought they were talking in riddles this whole time. They really hit you over the head with the "they straight up hung us from a tree"

[@codewallette]

Its so fucked up...

[@AyonBiswas.]

i thought they were referring to odin..as you know he is called "the lord of the hanged".

[@obsidianfrost9514]

Also the "yes" from Kratos was so sorrow filled and distraught that single word carried exactly what he was feeling. The VA did beautifully.

[@scott_5757]

This here is where I knew that Odin was beyond redemption and where he deserved no peace after his death. It may be a game, but I always hoped those kids could find peace after everything they have gone through

[@nicholasholladay-elser7307]

I think they did. Their final line after both the Keeper and Odin are dead seams to suggest that their pain is coming to an end. They may never reach the afterlife they where meant to, but I think they will be ok as they are, united in the comfort of each other and in what Kratos does for them. There may not be any making it right, but I can't say he didn't make it better.

[@mithiwithi]

@@nicholasholladay-elser7307 They may have no afterlife, but they will at least be spared their pain, and in time they may fade to oblivion, which may be respite enough after their suffering.

[@BlossomPathOnStage15]

A short reminder Kratos back when Calliope Kratos firstborn child was born she was sick and fragile due to Ares releasing a plague and according to Spata tradition she must be thrown into the cliff because she was born weak and therefore unfit to live. Kratos despite being a Spartan straight up refused to follow tradition and decides to search for Ambrosia aka the God medicine. And remember Kratos is a very proud Spartan and Ambrosia is said to be able to give one strength and immortality many have tried search for it and failed and Kratos was the one found it and he choose to give it to his daughter and not for himself.

[@jackhauf]

Hes alive tho. He is mimir. Cookingkratos proved this

[@iwenttoohio5045]

Even kratos got mad at 5:17, you can hear his voice getting deeper with anger.

[@keandregreen5628]

Odin lost any chance of redemption after that

[@BigJugsRule92]

He never had a chance in the first place

[@davidt.1707]

Well, the vid shows the codex or note on the Raven Keeper that it was more their idea and not Odin's, but still he's largely related for the fact he had the RK fashion them into Ravens like his own just for recon purposes around the realms. The all-fucker already lost that chance after what he did to his own family and to others like Mimir and Freya. This...this is another level of disgusting act Odin has ever done.

[@keandregreen5628]

@@BigJugsRule92 if kratos had a chance anybody does

[@BigJugsRule92]

@@keandregreen5628 except Kratos is trying to do better and in many ways, succeeding. Odin didn’t even bother trying.

[@keandregreen5628]

@@BigJugsRule92 kratos tried to do better after destroying an entire land and countless people odin possibly could’ve done better like he did but after torturing and mutilating children souls I truly don’t think he would’ve ever deserved it

[@MrHidePatten]

Odin casually torturing, manipulating, subjugating, with a splash of genocide, anything else to add to make him abominable? How’s about Child murder to turn them into surveillance cameras?

[@bloodangel19]

Tbh Kratos himself did well over half of those and some unique ones of his own lol

[@mithiwithi]

Well, not _just_ to turn them into surveillance cameras. Also to interrogate them about the afterlife. No less horrific.

[@afroponix3414]

The whole reason Thor was easier to worship over Odin is because Thor didn’t need human sacrifice

[@AyroDynamics]

5:17 The anger in Kratos’ voice. He’s already figured out what’s happened to these children, and he’s not even considering forgiveness. He knows this monstrosity has to burn.

[@Baptisteog18]

It says a lot when even Kratos is disgusted with ones actions.

[@wesleycolvin7158]

I don't know what's more upsetting, that Odin had a hand in any of this or that each was killed by their own parents. Until this I was a bit conflicted about the death of Odin. Brilliant storytelling!

[@argiedude3762]

This has become one of the most horrifying things in the God of War series.

[@Baptisteog18]

Also the most tragic. It would’ve been one thing if these kids were condemned to hellheim but thanks to Odin and the raven keeper they’ve no choice but to remain in limbo unless someone destroys what’s left of their souls.

[@jaylensuarez9760]

Tbh Odin never ceases to suprise me with his capacity for cruelty. It's like every day I learn about some new horrible thing he did. But this might just take the cake.

[@ltmatthewakj2466]

What kind of evil is that, twisting children soul into like that 😡😡😡 Odin is truly evil bastard. Nicely done Santa Monica for this villain like this.

[@astralprojectionshapeshifting]

Luckily All Of The Shapeshifting Astral Projection Family Members Do Not Attack Babies As A Cool Rule That Must Be Followed At All Costs But Unfortunately All Of The Shapeshifting Astral Projection Family Members Will Always Hurt All Kinds Of Children Is Always Been If All Kinds Of Children Are Making All Of The Shapeshifting Astral Projection Family Members Not Staying Calm And Unfortunately All Of The Shapeshifting Astral Projection Family Members Will Always Hurt All Kinds Of Adults Is Always Been If All Kinds Of Adults Are Making All Of The Shapeshifting Astral Projection Family Members Not Staying Calm Eh.

[@AlacrasEden]

5:30 Kratos sounded genuinely horrified

[@mariofan1ish]

Odin never ceased to surprise me with how evil he truly was. In spite of that, I still found myself falling for his charm during Ragnarok, just to be reminded of it when he killed Brok. "A small, covetous tyrant" as Mimir put it, doesn't even begin to describe the depths and breadth of Odin's villainy. He may just be one of, if not the, most evil antagonist I've ever seen.

[@afroponix3414]

She didn’t steal these souls, they were willingly sacrificed to Odin by their parents

[@_Tomon]

So if I sacrifice you to a god and his servant collect your soul, to reshape it for their own use and dooms you to suffer forever. It's not stolen? Cause I given you to them willingly? :-D Not even parents can decide something like that for their children. And if they were true parents in the first place they would never have done so anyway.

[@mithiwithi]

The idea that children are the property of their parents is a very common belief (and most likely a prevailing belief in the Nine Realms as they exist in the game), but one I find personally repugnant in the extreme. The children themselves were the rightful owners of their souls, and they were indeed stolen from them - and it's all the more horrific that their own parents colluded in that theft.

[@Bustuhh]

​@@_Tomonremember Odin himself said to Kratos "have you ever been worshipped, had people pray and love you!" Odin had a great influence over people that he had Heimdall believe everything Odin did was good So imagine how normal Midgard folk would think with their belief in Odin, also parents killing their children isn't exclusive to Odins Raven anyway, in many movies and cultures parents would sacrifice their children Heck it happened in Greece And the humorous line people use (paraphrasing here) "I offer my first born!" is part of an infamous Egyptian law a king/pharaoh once demanded Lesser versions of sacrifice is the origins of weddings, parents would offer their daughters to noble houses to gain favour for land, crops and general resource, the daughters would be the trade value thus the daughter was used as a sacrifice by their families and the newly wed daughter would be used by noble houses to produce an heir (like the job of the Raven keeper, turning a soul into a tool for someone else)

[@claytondavis6835]

the kids would beg to differ. those souls belong to them not their parents and not odin either

[@Kwatcher100]

That doesn’t make things any better.

[@millionairesburner24]

This the only part of the game tht genuinely made my skin crawl!!!

[@madisonkirkpatrick2618]

Same! The part where they mentioned mommy and daddy, I had to walk away for a bit cuz I though I would be sick.

[@austinjones9276]

It was at that part I realized, there is no reasoning/redeeming/saving Odin. He has truly gone so far past the line in the proverbial sand, you can use a nuke on him without risking physically damaging yourself. Heck, you probably won't even see the dang mushroom cloud!

[@redtiger8275]

4:10 that sudden voice change shook me to my core. "Raven keeper".......

[@smugreptile6695]

With what the Raven keeper did to their souls.....I imagine there is no end to the amount of malice those children hold towards their "New Mother".

[@redtiger8275]

@@smugreptile6695 absolutely

[@grantharrell2139]

I think the story of the ravens is much darker. They mention swinging like the all father by their parents' hands. Odin hung himself from a tree and stabbed himself with a spear. In all probabilities their parents were insanely devout to Odin or in despair from Ragnarok starting. Considering the ravens existed before Ragnarok I would sadly say the former. I can't decide who were greater monsters, Odin and the Raven Keeper or the parents who sent their children to those monsters.

[@mithiwithi]

I think, on balance, Odin and the Raven Keeper were the greater monsters. Each set of parents only sacrificed a few children - Odin and the Raven Keeper took _all_ of them.

[@Alex-zl5vt]

Parents are more evil odin is a manuplitave bastard but a mother and father should never sell out there children no matter what he offered

[@ivanhunter6492]

the fact that Odin sacrificed children chilled me

[@TrojanGamer10]

The parents did the sacrificing. Odin was just the catalyst

[@nicholasholladay-elser7307]

@@TrojanGamer10 It is still possible he 'encouraged' it. A blessing here, a punishment there, a few whispered words.... We know he is a cunning manipulator, what's to say that after the plan was conceived he didn't help gather more souls. There are 101 of these things that we know of.

[@angelserenade]

You can hear from Kratos' reply that even him felt disgusted and saddened at what has caused the se children's demise. "Mummy and daddy, tied the noose tight"...

[@samzorn4656]

Considering Kratos was a father twice over and taking into account the efforts he made to cure Calliope and Atreus of their ailments, the idea of committing filicide is something that hits close to home for the God of War. Moreso, considering that he too committed filicide when he unknowingly killed his daughter.

[@t-rexcellentreviews1663]

Agreed, though I feel like Kratos already had a pretty good idea how these children died after he repeated the phrase. “Swung from the tree.” His silence afterwards says it all.

[@isiahduran2041]

Holy shit "mommy and daddy tied the noose tight" Holy shit odin made them child sacrifice that is fucked

[@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit]

It's so heartbreaking what odif did to the children.

[@winooi5012]

Who are those children ? Raven children or human children ?

[@zak_atck]

and atreus wanted to reason with him at the end. shit ending

[@iwenttoohio5045]

@@zak_atck to be fair he didn't know the monstrosity that Odin did to those children. But you can find peace knowing sindri finished the job.

[@paperboathat]

@@winooi5012 Each of the ravens (I think 101 in total) are children who for one reason or another were hanged by their parents so their soulds may be “of use” to Odin. Then the Raven Keeper took their souls and formed them into ravens, until both their mind and body became perverted and lost to the peace of afterlife. Tldr: children who were killed by their parents to serve odin

[@zarrartariq3980]

1:47,2:08,2:34,3:08,3:27,3:42,4:04,4:31,4:59,5:22,13:08,13:21

[@KingCasual1986]

I had this part of the story spoiled for me earlier. I didn’t bother with the Raven side quest in the first because I wasn’t doing that much exploration even in side quests and didn’t come across that many(if I saw one, I killed it though). Now that I know the truth of these things I am finishing this side quest even if I (true story)have to spend 15 minutes in one spot in Vanaheim looking for one(I didn’t find it but I’ll come back during post game)!

[@CamdenKaneakaNeptunesdaughter]

Good luck! And I am so keeping this in mind for when I need to be mad.

[@eddieguerrerofantasy]

We All talk about Odin but even the Raven kaper was responsable for this horrendus crime, it's kinda intresting that One of the most despicable character in the series was a minor villain

[@fufufuaru]

i wonder what freya’s reaction is if she heard the parts where the kids were hung. I imagine it will make her itch for odin’s neck even more

[@rathzo1800]

Thats what make odin more terrifying than zeus

[@millionairesburner24]

Naw Zeus’s brought the apocalypse to Sparta 😂 there equal

[@thehandsomeone8369]

@@millionairesburner24between death or being an eternal slave to an obsessive old man, I’ll gladly take death by Zeus any day of the week. At least I’ll still be me in the underworld.

[@elviraweekes3906]

In terms of raw power Zeus is more terrifying but in cunningness. Odin is definitely more terrifying because when you really think,. About it all he could’ve killed them the entire game. He could’ve poisoned the food he could’ve left boy to drown. Without Odin‘s protection boy would’ve been dead on the spot. In Asgard when Sif wanted him executed, Odin kept him denied it because he needed him.

[@Wave_Boi]

Nah, ya'll are forgetting what he did to the Titans, hecatoncheires, those other people he imprisoned, etc etc. Sure these kids get their soul twisted, but imagine being stuck in the Pit of Tartarus with a mountain in your back for all of eternity, or being eaten alive by a bird, and regenerated, just to be eaten again for eternity, or be sealed inside a mountain where you're trapped there for eternity... If you think about it, these kids got off easy cause at least they don't seem to be being controlled through pain, but manipulated through fear. Zeus will make you immortal just to break your body and mind for the shits and giggles.

[@Kwatcher100]

@@Wave_BoiWell, at least in Cronos’ case, he did eat his own children.

[@ivanbarroso865]

Regardless if this was Odins doing or not this really made him just one cruel god who doesn’t give a fuck about anyone or anything but himself and his ambitions smh

[@GrounddevLF]

i like how they are creepy all but the one time they are cheering kratos on!

[@jamesnorman9160]

Easily the most messed up thing Odin has done, and that list is already fairly long. I also enjoy how the childish limericks give way to one where the ravens are angrily demanding that Kratos gut Odin and dash out his brains. Guess with the Raven Keeper dead they could finally be so overt with their demands.

[@KhoaLe-jm4sv]

Technically it’s Sindri who fulfilled their wishes

[@arthurfilion5992]

Which one is it?

[@arthurfilion5992]

Nvrm found it

[@t-rexcellentreviews1663]

@@KhoaLe-jm4svwith help from Kratos, Freya and Atreus.

[@jacobjones3916]

Are we not going to mention the parents performing human sacrifice on their children to supply those souls in the first place?

[@Insanity_Wolf]

I see a lot of "Odin was so cruel for this". These kids parents sacrificed, and not just by killing them in their sleep or some shit. But drug them kicking and screaming and hung them. Say what you will, but the parents are more f*cked in this scenario.

[@HanithSVK]

I do not know about that... Yes, you must be a pretty big piece of sh*t to sacrifice your child/children to anything/anyone, much less by hanging them on tree... (But religious zealots are rarely driven by anything other than their own agenda...). But if not for Odin, those children's essence would live forever in afterlife as it was supposed to be. Odin could easily just let them be, let their souls to where they would naturally go after their deaths... Instead he took those souls, the very essence of those kids, handed it to the sadistic, maniacal b*tch, who was literally twisting and corrupting them till they become perverted, till they were irrevocably changed AND on top of them, she bound them to the servitude forever(or at least for as long as Odin or sadistic b*tch is still allive). What parents did was horrifying, but those were just a mortals, who were tricked by Odin's charade AND i suspect that most of those parents were desperate enough to sell one of their kids to Odin in exchange for means of survival for them and rest of their families. They were tricked and forced. But Odin knew the score. He willingly and, by his own choice, destroyed souls of nearly hundred kids(possibly even more, but who knows). Odin was possibly the biggest piece of sh*t in the whole GoW universe... Or at least in the Norse Saga.

[@polo5760]

They are definitely fucked up. But Odin and the Raven Keeper didn't even grant them peace they tortured their souls and forced them to become surveillance cameras. The entire journey is messed up one does not out way the other.

[@itsteej5304]

“New father new mother new fate to suffer”

[@Zenoforce]

Dam that's really fucked up video game reminding me in Our own history this kind of shit happened where parents would sacrifice their children to a deity with Ridiculous standards. This shit made my blood boil!!!

[@mb2001]

This is the sort of atrocity that would make people say, "Oh, god." But Kratos, Atreus, and Freya don't get that luxury. They don't have a higher power to rest against in light of this horror; they *are* that higher power. They can only do something about it, as gods.

[@miguelmachado6988]

I was already pissed off with odin after brok's death,then i got more pissed off when he killed his own son in front of his grandchild,then i got more pissed when i discovered what he has done to those childrens,i've never been so happy to beat a villain's ass

[@fatos342]

I'm actually surprised something this dark made it despite how colorful and light toned they made the overall atmosphere of this game.

[@jlev1028]

You think this game is lighthearted?

[@iwenttoohio5045]

@@jlev1028 lets give him a free pass this time, he looks like a new gow player.

[@rsk-1337]

@@jlev1028 it is compared to gow 2018

[@jlev1028]

@@rsk-1337 Not really. This game actually ramps up the tragedy with multiple onscreen deaths of likeable characters, Midgard being a frozen wasteland for three years, Freya dealing with looming hatred she has for her son's killer, Sindri being reduced to a broken shell of himself over grief, Angrboda confronting her grandmother's grief fuelled addiction, Kratos constantly worrying about starting a war, and Thor's behavior being caused by his father's emotional abuse. Not to mention the game ending with the destruction of most of the Aesir and leaving the rest homeless.

[@HanithSVK]

​@@jlev1028 About Freya, what i would've added to your list is her trying to overcome emotional damage caused by her abusive husband. I mean the whole story of hers in Ragnarok is her being vengeful, but realizing that Kratos was just a "last push", the culmination of the choices she and Odin made... The true culprit behind, well, everything bad that had ever happened to her, was her own abusive husband. Husband she married to save her realm, yet she achieved nearly nothing by doing so... Few years of a very flimsy peace, then war renewed and now even bloddier than ever before. Freya was abused constantly by Odin and even after "separating" he still maintained his hold over her AND he even managed to destroy what little remained of their own son's sanity...

[@nerochromatic]

I think I've found the alternative meaning to the name "lord of the hanged"

[@t-rexcellentreviews1663]

Yeah, I think so mate, that is just chilling, it’s so easy to forget just how much of a monster Odin is at times with his unassuming nature.

[@FezCaliph]

I’m surprised Mimir didn’t know this

[@heauxpas2542]

Omfg yes!!! I’m so glad you covered this i was so sad for these kids but odins death was so satisfying after this

[@Emmetlovesredvelvet13]

Jesus Christ...I still feel ill whenever I go and look into this side quest more...

[@Kungfupandacoco]

omg swung from the tree... in the norse mythology, odin swung from the tree means he hang himself on the world tree while being impaled by his spear to gain knowledge of the worlds and rune. If that's what happened to the children too as a sacrifice..that was horrific

[@johnhorton4436]

So the Ravens are aware of who Kratos is I guess I shouldn't be too Surprised there

[@coletrain6545]

What happened to Kratos wife, daughter, mom and brother now this. Very intense very dark

[@Morfe02]

Senua is more creepy than a fucking God of war . . . the creepy would be knowing how they die saying "well they are dead kids" is kinda . . . information a data not storytelling or a tale of terror xD

[@G0DLIKE92]

This is why I love this game and 18 so much. In 18 we see and hear of all the atrocities and evil acts committed by Odin and Thor and Kratos and Atreus are the only ones who can stop them. I love how Odin was portrayed because he doesn’t seem capable of committing these acts. I know some fans wanted more than Kratos offering Thor a chance of redemption but Kratos of all can relate. Kratos and Atreus are new to this land but these acts have gone on for millennia. So they choose justice. But it took Sindri who has lived through it all to deal the real blow of justice. I wish Sindri was around for another game to deal out an act of justice but that’s another thing all together 😂😅

[@eduardomagana3858]

Tragic seems the better word to use here

[@LR-420]

0:27 See that mountain in the background?.... That's Odin 😱

[@deezrocks6732]

The pale one glitched out so bad i had to execute it about 15 times lol

[@emdeejay7432]

It's pronounced say-thur, that d looking letter is kinda works like another version of d but said with a "th" sound instead of a "duh" sound. If you have subtitles on you'll see that's how they pronounce its when it comes up in conversations.

[@toastsneggs]

At 7:00 atreus should have just yelled.. DODGE!!

[@zaanredelinghuys191]

I just heard the two quotes following the 5:00 mark (although for me their order was reversed), and I immediately came looking for answers.

[@CREDLACE]

GODS'DAMN MAN YOUR VOICE IS JUST...!

[@HAMZA-OLYMPUS]

Contain your orgasm, bruh. 😂

[@VideoGameSophistry]

Me or Kratos? Thanks dude

[@brettchristoffel6391]

Wow Odin and the Ravin keeper sound like Disney

[@cjxj2202]

First thing that popped into my head when I heard the souls of the ravens at the tree was those aliens in the claw game from Toy Story…

[@mesiagamer5217]

Honestly feels like it would be fitting to use the raven set in this fight. A bit of poetic justice the Ravens fighting side by side with their liberators so to speak.

[@jackhauf]

Cookingkratos proves odin is alive thru his ravens

[@vicjose]

Just came to say I love your intro!

[@snakethejake97]

This has to be one of the darkest pieces of lore in the history of god of war.

[@shoresean1237]

It's only a hope, likely to be dashed by the DLC/Sequel, but one would hope that as Atreus searches out surviving Giants and is perhaps forced to become wilier while evading Sindri, he learns of how to possibly heal broken souls, like Brok's, the victims of Faye's battle with Thor (and people in like suffering elsewhere) and the Raven children. In fact, I would work on doing all such things, because the amount of broken spirits wandering the realms could be inviting to Odin's own essence (I think Sindri should have left him contained, dark-genie-plot or no) or the next such monster. Unrelated directly, but I can't help but think about it: In the comics version of Sandman (don't think this arc's been adapted yet), Matthew The Raven, once Matt Cable of Swamp Thing fame, meets Huginn and Munin, and apparently they are all fascinated by how he was once a human. This storyline in GOW makes me rethink their fascination, though the Odin and Thor Morpheus meets fall between Marvel and old legend for their behavior and morality - not heroes, definitely, but not the marauding embodiment of callous destruction seen in this series. Loki, on the other hand, well, he does stuff that leads to stuff - Atreus and company would spam him with blows, though he gets his comeuppance.

[@t-rexcellentreviews1663]

I don’t see Sindri going for revenge on Atreus, even with everything that happened, he still cares about his friends and he knows Brok wouldn’t want him to do that.

[@superhaven3647]

Just when you thought a killer putting souls of children in animatronics was bad…

[@hubitheratlord3649]

Ho crap this is dark, this is like real life history in a way because a handful of ancient civilizations sacrificed their own children to their gods

[@jak4470]

Creepy and cruel at the same time.

[@mikeyfrederick1232]

Just gotta say I was waiting a while to find the right person to watch play this game..been a fan of GOW for years...glad I stumbled upon your channel...I have really enjoyed all your gameplay and breakdowns sir...so yeah major credit to you and your channel..I have a long list of your content to watch now lol thanks

[@VideoGameSophistry]

I’m a make some more just for you pal

[@Pattmore]

Odin is truly evil.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

Considering they can't move to the after life with Kratos in control I don't see it far fetched the ravens WILLINGLY and of their own occured following their old purpose. Kratos would vehemently be against it, but if the act of their own, he can't really stop it. It would be a measure of ensuring all the Einhajer and other things that would revel in wonton destruction aren't able to cause to much excessive damage.

[@smugreptile6695]

Since they were killed and what's left of their souls are in the realm of the dead, I think their days of flying in Midgard might be over. Has little to do with Kratos being in charge or not. Their souls were so twisted by Odin and the Raven keeper that they don't get any afterlife other than what they have now. They are broken beyond repair.

[@Baptisteog18]

Wow, and I thought Zeus was evil. Odin’s actions makes Zeus’s actions look like child’s play.

[@saiyankingbroly]

5:23 I wanted to give Odin the zeus combo after I heard that shit

[@olyviermonteau4300]

soul transmutations is what the ravens mean if you guys are wondering about the term "perverted."

[@olyviermonteau4300]

disfigured also works in the context

[@heekychad6427]

somthing that bother me for some time now, i think the def made a mistake, all of them are actually crows even the two close to Odin are crows.

[@williamalton5519]

They’re definitely ravens not crows. Ravens are much larger than crows, even though they’re from the same genus Corvus. Also, Odin, in mythology and game lore, is known as the God of Ravens. They’re definitely ravens.

[@JeSsE10mCcOy11]

Poor kids

[@youngmasterzhi]

Raven Keeper?! More like Raven Starver!* She left these birds deprived from the taste of freedom! *In Old Norse terminology, “Raven Starver” (or Hrafnasueltir) also means “coward”; anyone who refuses to give their life during a war will starve the ravens of fresh new corpses on the battlefield

[@theYT_moderator]

I have no clue how you knew they were children I was super confused

[@VideoGameSophistry]

The characters say it loudly

[@mskiara18]

48 souls of children, how horrific. If only there was a way to restore their souls so they can rest in peace. I am thankful Odin has perished thanks to Atreus and Sindri destroying the marble with Odin's soul.

[@HAMZA-OLYMPUS]

Mf what about KRATOS? 🤦‍♂️

[@iwenttoohio5045]

@@Rose-xe7oj it's 101, counting the ravens from the last gow game

[@soldiergigas14]

It was Sindri who delivered the killing blow. He did not %$#@ around...

[@geekymetalhead5112]

For once, Old Kratos would've been accepted in this fight. Cause man, those poor kids, their whole lives taken to serve some paranoid old man of a god 😢

[@devinarthur6559]

5:17 5:22 5:24 5:31

[@mataeholliman7462]

The saying at 5:25 is the worst

[@alexanderluthi4028]

What type of poems are the raven's sayin

[@dragonlogos1]

This was kind of out of left field like Odin is made to be an asshole but not get people to hang their own kids to turn their very souls into raven spies asshole. Like everyone except maybe Heimdall would turn at that.

[@somefavabeans]

He imprisoned mimir for what was going to be an eternity, personally overseeing his torture every day. Or what about the genocide of the giants? Or what about when he killed his own son with no remorse? Or any of the hundreds of stories of his cruelty mimir tells us? He’s evil and has always been portrayed as such. The reason he acted kind towards Atreus is to try to earn his trust

[@dragonlogos1]

@@somefavabeans there is something different to killing kids. War I understand, getting information, even killing his son when his son went against him. But these were children killed by their own parents to serve Odin. What the fuck. Like yes Odin was evil but there was sense to it. He was trying to accomplish something but this was both cruel and kind of entirely unnecessary.

[@squashmallow2006]

​@@dragonlogos1 Did you forget that Odin is known to be incredibly petty and cheap too? He goes into a fit if he was rejected or if he lost a bet. Consider this line he told Kratos, "Had anyone ever worshiped you? Ever prayed to you? Can you even imagine that kind of love?" What do you think he was referring to other than the parents who worshiped him and sacrificed those poor younglings' souls? He was gloating about it.

[@renamon5658]

Is odin worst than Zeus in the god of war games?

[@lightheart5]

Worst

[@asadelfadillah8008]

If Kratos uncovered this truth as a main part of the game, would he have been more open to the idea of war? Maybe not, but it would've definitely sowed the seeds for the idea Because this? This is just wrong. It is wrong.

[@jasontodd285]

Background screams

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

Going to Valhalla is overrated considering who Odin is/was. I doubt these souls would want to spend their afterlife in the halls of the god who wronged them so. In the games Norse mythology those not worthy of Valhalla go to Niflheim, but there is also the pool in Alfheim where souls create the light, perhaps that is the best resting place in this mythology.

[@mohamedbouh2642]

There is also Fólkvangr(The Valhalla of the Vanir).

[@shadowmarauder6033]

Wow, and I thought the Fnaf victims had it rough

[@lightheart5]

And I thought Zeus was terrible, Odin is worse.

[@AngelGirl928]

I feel like I'm going to throw up.

[@KL005]

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[@leem.5917]

What are you yapping about ?

[@skollandhati9961]

It’s kind of disappointing. There’s no achievement for destroying all the ravens in God of war Ragnarok.

[@HAMZA-OLYMPUS]

There is

[@skollandhati9961]

@@HAMZA-OLYMPUS I'm not talking about the Raven armor and runic attacks you get for destroying a certain amount of ravens I mean an actual trophy achievement so the achievements would be more of a challenge the platinum trophy was easier than the 4th one.