Vietnam Veterans HATE this Iconic Weapon!

Follow along as we look into the very iconic M16-A2 and why the Vietnam Veterans Hated it so much...
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[@GummeeH3]

to be pedantic: the A1 was VN era. A2s were later. A2s were after my time in. My issue rifle was an A1 That tapping on your helmet thing really became a habit. Still do it to this day.

[@Crispy11b]

Yes sorry got my numbers mixed up.

[@dandennis8671]

Correct. In 1982 I was issued a M16a1 at Parris island. In 1985 2nd Battalion 5th Marines were issued the M16A2 and it was a wonderful rifle.

[@alopez9149]

True. Was in the Corps. '84 was issued the A1 - w/full auto selector. Then received the A2 about '89 - w/3 round burst. Then came the M4 with fancy sights and shit. Been out since 2006 so I can't say what the Corps uses now. I recall having to use the A1/A2 iron sights during qualification on Okinawa in the rain to hit target at 500 yards. Could barely see the target. We were miserable and wet. Miss those fckn days!

[@DeaconXPS]

Amen, and welcome home brothers. You are not forgotten.

[@Crispy11b]

🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@doughboybellmore2347]

I entered the Reception Station Fort Polk 24JUN1975 one month after the Vietnam Era ended an I loved my 16 (A1), hitting targets 360m out iron site, made my doughrise.

[@Crispy11b]

Nice

[@terryderush2657]

Did you know that they changed the name of FORT POLK 🤔?

[@frankcastle4435]

Crispy you are an amazing human being and you help a lot of people. God Bless you and thank you for your service. If you ever come to North Carolina and need place to stay. Let me know.

[@doughboybellmore2347]

@@terryderush2657 so what

[@spikymikie]

Hit that LIKE button ya'll!!

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks

[@cullendarling7916]

I freaking love Crispy! Do your thing brother!

[@Crispy11b]

Always!

[@matthooks5840]

The other issues with the A 1 of Vietnam era was that Stoner specified a chrome plated chamber which DOD thought was unnecessarily expensive. and they also changed the powder for the ammo.

[@Crispy11b]

Yessir

[@beeamerica5024]

👍 yes they said the ammo was kind of bad too I was very blessed we had m3s on our tank of course people tried to trade but we wasn't about to

[@Crispy11b]

That too

[@WayneCapacillo]

I only hate the m16 because it was always the rubber ducky we had to haul around...

[@Crispy11b]

😂😂

[@spikymikie]

There was also the jamming from getting dust and dirt in the mechanism. Unlike an AK, the M16's had tight tolerances. So they could get jammed easily from dirt or sand. I think the A2 was where they added the forward assist. My Grandfather had an FFL in the 60's, and I remember him bringing home 2 new AR-15's in 1969. I was 11 at the time. He taught me how to shoot it. The most versatile firearm platform there is. I have a "pistol" in 300 Blackout, and a 20 inch AR10 in 6.5 Creedmore. One for hunting in the woods, and one for calling long distance. My next one will be a BCA in 8.6 Blackout. Im really intrigued by a barrel with a 1 in 3 twist rate (bit of a science nerd), that trades forward energy for rotational energy to still deliver a massive energy transfer at conact. Subsonic, suppressed must sound like a pellet gun. Thanks Crispy!

[@Crispy11b]

Yes it was

[@jeffreyswaney5435]

One of the biggest mistakes made, was the first batch didn't have a chromed barrel which aided in jams and fouling, then add in the bad brass for the 5.56 that the extraction bolt would rip the lip off, leaving the rest of the spent cartridge stuck in the barrel/receiver. I have a Bushmaster AR-15A2 myself.

[@Crispy11b]

That too

[@traceycook8826]

I got bushmaster ar 2 20 inch barrel rifle AR16

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@billyrogers8384]

God bless you CRISPY 🙏!.! With y'all went through!

[@stephenmckeen290]

The M-16a1 was used in Vietnam. The M-16a2 did not go into service until the 1980s. I did not get mine at FT Bragg until 1992.

[@Crispy11b]

It was, sorry got my numbers all mixed up.

[@johnknouse8846]

My dad was a Vietnam vet, and the A1 was his rifle. He got to Nam in ‘69, and by then, they had got a lot of the kinks out. When it was first issued, most of the men had never fired it, they were handed the rifle, and no cleaning kit, since it supposedly didn’t need to be cleaned, and sent in to battle! They quickly found out that they definitely needed to be cleaned! They also cut corners on the barrels. The early ones were not chrome lined, and contributed to some of the issues. On top of being told they didn’t need to clean the rifle, the early ammo used ball powder that burned especially dirty, which compounded the issues.

[@Crispy11b]

Freaking crazy

[@220swift7]

My dad quite liked the M16. He was in Vietnam in 66-67. Now my uncle who was a Marine and did three tours in Vietnam...he did hate it. Every time he'd get over there, he'd ditch the M16 for an M14. lol

[@Crispy11b]

Don’t blame em

[@davidbuffalo6821]

My cousin was in two vicious firefights in Nam, and that 'most hated weapon" saved his and at least 30 others' lives. Before he passed, he still had a couple of them.

[@bobohm21]

The wacking the magazine thing also came from the need to make sure the ammo was at the back of the mag, which helped prevent jamming. That was what they taught us in the Air Force in the 80's. We were deployable as aircraft maintainers, so we had to qualify with M-16s, but we would only be using weapons as a last ditch thing, so they gave us junky Vietnam era M-16s, and when training, not seating the bullets really did seem to cause more jams, but keeping it clean was the biggest deal.

[@Crispy11b]

Yessir

[@erniemiller1953]

In 1984, my NG unit had A1s. I remember the triangle barrel cover. I LOVED it. It was the most accurate rifle I had ever used up to that time, and I had been shooting since I was 9 years old. The lack of recoil made it easy to keep on target.

[@Crispy11b]

They are very accurate

[@pyeitme508]

Yes

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@Daniel-Weaver]

I see it has the jam enhancer.

[@Crispy11b]

Yes 🙌🏽

[@Daniel-Weaver]

@@Crispy11b When I every get it kinda off center my wife never says to push it in further.

[@TruthBombz]

Thank you to all that have served.

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks 🙏🏽

[@roberttaylor7451]

I think it depends on the time frame, my dad was in the fifth infantry in 68-69 and he loved it and still speaks highly of it. He had a long storied career in law enforcement and early on he had a personally owned m16. Unfortunately he sold it and an HK 33 in about 84-85. I know it sucks and hindsight is 20/20. I remember shooting both as a kid but enjoyed the colt much more due to its soft shooting, especially in auto. So not everyone had bad experiences with the m16. Cheers

[@Crispy11b]

That’s true!!&

[@Dstev98141]

Nice history lesson, thanks!

[@Crispy11b]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Dstev98141]

@@Crispy11b in my time we went from the a1 to the a2, some units got the sbr carbine, but not us in aviation, but I can’t tell you how happy our pilots were when they got the M9 to replace the S&W m10 and Colt detective special 4” .38’s!!!

[@nicholasholloway8743]

If i recall (from what o was told) they had to use 16 rounds in the 20 mags because having all 20 would wear the spring out resulting in feed issues.

[@Crispy11b]

Yes sir

[@blacksheep_edge1412]

One of the other things that caused issues for the M-16 in 'Nam was the fact that the ammo the military manufactured for it purposely used the wrong powder on top of not issuing cleaning kits. Why would they do that you ask? Great question. It's because the Army Material Command wanted the M-14 battle rifle to be the standard issue rifle and had in fact rigged the tests to keep the M-14 in service over the M-16. It was a huge bureaucratic battle that the then Secretary of Defense stepped in and made the M-16 the new standard issue rifle for the US armed forces. Army Materials Command didn't like that this was done counter to their desires and so they set it up for failure in the field.

[@Crispy11b]

🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@codybrown3946]

It’s my favorite rifle, I have multiple hunting rifles and this one is definitely the most fun to shoot!

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@larryratliff2215]

Yeah the M-16 I fired in basic (USAF) was allot different from the one issued to our Vietnam vet's. I enjoyed the range days I got in the USAF to re-qualify (every 2yrs) on the M-16. When I retired in 2007 I wanted to own an AR-15 but didn't think I'd be able to afford one. Enter stage right...the DPMS Panther the affordable ($450) AR-15 sold at your local Walmart. Why so affordable you ask, No Forward Assist, No Dust Cover, Flat Top A-4 Style Upper and with the purchase of each weapon, Tapco will give you 5 polymer magazine (with proof of purchase) but none the less a fine weapons system.

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽

[@terryderush2657]

My Dad was in Vietnam, too. Thanks 👍 for sharing this with us.

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks for watching!

[@BDD-]

New number who dis? Glad to see you back in my feed again!

[@mikeyachk]

I called out Mr. Baby hands also, Crispy!!!

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽😂🤘🏽

[@BenjySparky]

Crispy,you rock! ❤ Peace

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks

[@georgedeedsnotwords2162]

Basic in 1990 used the A-1 and A-2 both by then were well broke in and worked quite well if you cleaned them . I enjoy using them and found them to be very accurate . I prefer the A-1 and finger control but the three round burst could be effective . God bless all you veterans and thank you for all you have done .

[@Crispy11b]

I love the A1 too

[@james0309]

awesome vid , thank you crispy

[@Crispy11b]

Thank you

[@jamesbromstead4949]

I like the sights on the -A2.

[@Crispy11b]

Me too

[@BandGeek2210]

Had the M16A1….loved it

[@martinschaeffer2]

Funny story about the m16a1, in 2006 I was at ft Huachucah AZ and just before our final ftx they took all our m16a4s and the few m4 away and issued us brand new m16a1s. All the MOSt’s freaked the fuck out because we had the auto selection (not burst). But as anyone who’s fired blanks knows, that shit gets dirty AF. Long story short almost everyone’s weapon jammed except the fey that never fired (so they don’t have to clean them.

[@Crispy11b]

🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@jackmacjr]

Crispy , I love you . That is the very first time that I have heard someone admit to that problem in public about the Matty Matel carbine . I have come to enjoy and like some of the later models that have been produced . Those first run A-2s were CRAPOLA plain and simple thank you for bringing it up VIA CON DIOS brother !...!...!

[@Crispy11b]

Love ya too

[@MikeInOregon]

I’m a Desert Storm vet. I have a civilian version of an A2 with an upgraded trigger that I built from scratch. But I guess Gen-X is once again skipped over…🤣

[@Crispy11b]

😂

[@davidboucher4535]

Went through basic in 81 with a M16A1 and left service in 11 with a M4, my favorite was A2. The simplicity of it and the weight with its ability to reach out and touch.

[@Crispy11b]

Dang…

[@nicholasholloway8743]

I know the name Stoner from the Stoner 63 MG. Didn't know he made M16s

[@Crispy11b]

Yes sir

[@CombatWombat7.62mm]

M16A1 was Vietnam era and M16A2 was 1980s later. Alot of Vietnam Veterans hated the M16A1. My dad hated it and loved the FAL L1A1 and the SKS and AK47

[@Crispy11b]

Absolutely… I can admit I mixed up the numbers lol

[@CombatWombat7.62mm]

@@Crispy11b still a good video

[@BeefaloBart]

[@Crispy11b]

Yes sir

[@TheCannell76]

Great vid as always brother!

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks for the visit

[@stevenwehrle8652]

Hey crispy, thank you so much for your videos, brother. Thank you for your service and thank you to all of the vets sacrifice their lives to make our. Country great FJB crispy the fuck on.

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks for watching

[@Watch_TheCharts]

Good ol fashioned beast! Might have not been battle tested for the jungle but gets my fire burnin for one!

[@Crispy11b]

Same 🙌🏽

[@ronmioni8850]

Great video - brought back a ton of memories. I get the idea that you think this platform is iconic.😉

[@Crispy11b]

Absolutely!

[@joanneganon7157]

Hey Omar,very interesting, thanks👍! JO JO IN VT 💞

[@Crispy11b]

Thanks! 😃

[@General_Shenanigans]

its the father of a great weapon platform, first time i did basic we had these in the c7 variant.

[@Crispy11b]

Badass

[@clintdowell581]

A2 was from the early to mid 80's by the Marines if my memory is correct

[@charlescurtis6151]

Nobody in Vietnam had an M16A2. The M16 was adopted in 1964 and the M16A1 replaced the M14 in 1969. The US Army didn’t adopt the M16A2 until 1989. There are many differences between the M16 and the M16A2.

[@Crispy11b]

Actually special forces had em

[@jeffapplewhite5981]

Mine was made by GM hydraulic manufacturer. Not Mattel. But it worked well.

[@Crispy11b]

Damnnn

[@desertvet1990]

M 16A1 was the Vietnam era weapon. Full auto/ semi auto.. M 16A2 was later and was 3 rnd burst/ semi auto

[@Crispy11b]

Yes sir

[@AmyBushnell-kx9fo]

The M16 a1 was used in Vietnam, the M-16 A2 wasn’t developed until later after the war

[@Crispy11b]

It was used by some special force soldier, but yes I got my numbers wrong.

[@thePrussian]

I qualified on the A1 in basic and then the A2 at my first unit. The three round burst was a jam-o-matic. Like my AK 47 much more better

[@Crispy11b]

Badass

[@vidviewerify]

Thank you all

[@Crispy11b]

Thank you too

[@carlbrown9082]

NOOO... TIMMYYYY... He was like a weird gel-formed little brother to me... 😭😭😭

[@Crispy11b]

😂😂

[@bobohm21]

RIP Timmy

[@markautrey3540]

The classical stock will actually make you miss your target. It throws you off if it’s not right.

[@Crispy11b]

Lol

[@reubencdebaca2408]

Don't know what the hate is about, carried one in Desert Storm and in Iraq '03, '04. Could hit pie plate at 400m with open sights, long before they started using red-dots and scopes standard on service rifles.

[@Crispy11b]

Cause yours was probably the best version.

[@ONEROUNDLEFT]

I’ve got the original Colt AR15A2 sporter.

[@Crispy11b]

Dude. Nice

[@BrianRandolph-jt5vp]

After the chromiumized the the chamber, and bolt locking lugs is when it became a much more dependable rifle.

[@Crispy11b]

Yessir

[@randyblosser1606]

Sorry my friend. Vietnam Nam had M16A1. The A1's were in service until the 1980's. A2's came around 1984. Main problem with A1's in Viet Nam was the government used dirtier stick powder they had stock piled already. Dirty nasty stuff.

[@AngelSilverFourtySeven]

👍🏼🥃🇺🇸

[@Crispy11b]

Cheers

[@tmp1957]

I had the M16-A1 and I loved it and hated it.

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽😂😂😂

[@Realbeardedgamerdad]

❤️👍🏻🇺🇸🥃

[@Crispy11b]

Cheers

[@czjunky2045]

Didn’t the A2 come out in the 80s after Vietnam 🇻🇳??

[@Crispy11b]

Yes and no.

[@kyledunn6853]

FREE FIREZONE WITH MY M-16 🎸🎸🎸🎸🤟🏼🤘🏼🤟🏼🤘🏼

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@navseal345]

🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲

[@Crispy11b]

🤘🏽

[@Xamiakass]

imagine if they had ak's instead of this jamming crap... :D

[@Crispy11b]

Yeah

[@Sid-xh6so]

Why do you sounds like your really scared to offend pep

[@Crispy11b]

What do you mean?

[@Stevenparsons0]

Something I would like to see I would like to see somebody cover the bows the Green Beret used during the Vietnam war I haven't found too much on the subject if any maybe that's something you could do I'm just throwing that out there

[@Crispy11b]

We can do that

err, the earliest branch to adopt the A2 was the Marine Corps in 1983, then the Army in 1986 ...so how could they have been in the Vietnam war..which ended in the late 70's? You prolly meant the 'A1' which was a USAF designation and not relative to the PICA...which was the Army. Primary In Charge of Acquisition, the US Army, never designated an 'A1'. Yet the 'A2' didn't happen until the 80's .

info is solidly wrong, but we'll watch the video anyway out of respect

and the M16 of Vietnam was a 1/12 twist barrel firing a 193grn bullet, whereas the A2 was a 1/7 twist barrel firing the m855 round

[@jeffreyswaney5435]

He is thinking the M-16 which didn't have a chromed barrel, causing half the problems, then the A1 which was the designation when they started using Chromed barrels, and handguards made by Mattel!

[@f106lady]

I was gonna say… I’m no expert… but I thought it was A1 that was carried in VN. Not sure about the other differences between the A1 & A2 but easily distinguishable by the smooth triangular shaped hand guard (shown in the historic VN footage). The A2 Crispy is showcasing with the ribbed hand guard is, of course, the A2 (duh). I trained on the modified A1 (USAF 1982-92), modified to shoot .22. Yeah it jammed a lot and wasn’t particularly comfortable for a LH shooter like myself bc it dumped the hot brass into the crook of my right elbow 😖 (made a note to myself after that, no matter how hot the forecast on range day was, *ALWAYS* wear long sleeves).

[@Crispy11b]

I got my numbers mixed up but a lot of special forces guys did use the A2 in Vietnam

No Vietnam veteran ever saw the A2, b/c it didn't exist

[@Crispy11b]

Yes it did.. a lot of special forces guys used them. But I did get my numbers messed up.

he clearly didn't mean A2, he just fubared the nomenclature

yea, but he missed the GAU and GAR, which existed decades before the M4

yes yes yes, the dude is talking about the A2, but all the early videos show the M16

[@Crispy11b]

I sure did 🤦🏽‍♂️

oh god, does he get anything right? it wasn't until AFTER Vietnam that 'Mil Spec' meant things were trash. Prior it meant products were the pinnacle of accuracy. 'Mil Spec' meant it was awesome!

[@Crispy11b]

Ok

[@thisisbullshit6visix]

the reason the rifles were sent without cleaning kits was they weren't supposed to need it. Because the new type of barrel had a coating that was to help keep it clean longer . but it was also more expensive so someone decided to use uncoated barrels to get the rifles out faster. unfortunatly they did need the cleaning kits. so ya it was a massive FUBAR

[@Crispy11b]

Definitely FUBAR!!