Vietnam War - Battle of Ong Thanh

[@jonnybravo3055]

RIP to our American brothers from the 🇬🇧 and RIP to the people of Vietnam. It was a tragedy to all involved 😔.

[@elainepeavey8470]

My brother served in Nam.Thank God he came home unwounded, but by NO means unskaithed...his hands constantly shook, he'd wake up several times a night. Being a little sister he spoke very little to me about his experience..he did tell me he saw things he hoped to God to never see here in the states...little kids & women carrying guns trying to kill anyone that was an American. Now that I'm older I somewhat understand why that hell hole can never leave a vet's mind. God Bless ALL vet's!!!!!!!!!!

[@adebisiade]

I am sorry for your brother.💔

[@tamirichards1]

This battle was an unbelievably heart-wrenching example of pride coming before a fall.

[@richardpluim4426]

You know, listening to these guys, one realizes that these guys are decent humans, but they were sent out to fight what I believe was a misguided war.My mother had no use for President Johnson. Its seems to me that the President only wanted to save face. When my Mom saw Johnson pick up a dog by its ears, she said, I hate that man. What a pig of a man.

[@johnmarist26]

I like that the video had the perspective of both sides. Very well done

[@dixxjamm]

You"re overlooking the fact that one of the main problems was that in alot of situations in Vietnam they underestimated the enemy.The US expected an easy war against an inferior enemy and inferior technology and firepower.Reality showed that the Vietnamese were dedicated,fanatical soldiers better prepared for the battle environment.And the technology and firepower,though superior,was mostly misused.Add a high rate of friendly fire and lack of soldiers motivation to the mix and there you have it.

[@patribble]

James Shelton, who appears in this video as Major Shelton, went on to achieve the rank of Brigadier General. He died in 2018, but not before living one heck of a full life. He wrote his own book on the Battle of Ong Thanh entitled “The Beast was Out There”. I had the privilege of meeting “Duke” Shelton in 2012, and he gave me an autographed copy of his book. It was an honor.

[@richardpluim4426]

I have to be honest. At one time I felt hate and scorn for the Americans. Hate for going to a nation to fight a war that did not have to be. The people of Vietnam could sort out their own troubles. The conflict was brought on by a lie. President Johnson and Mcnamarra were a couple of monsters. Watching this video shows that the guys in this battle, both sides were good people. The American and North Vietmanise are men of character. I have met Americans that come up to Canada for work in the oilfield. These are nice respectful guys and it breaks my heart that people of power in Washington DC go about the world looking for trouble, where there is no trouble. Look at the lies that are going on right now in Ukraine. Biden and his bunch want to save face at the worlds expense. If I was Mr Putin, I would have done the same as he is doing. I pray that this war is concluded by Russia and the United States admits that it was wrong.

[@tunafish8769]

@@richardpluim4426Three words Military Industrial Complex . These clowns are going to get us into a nuclear war. I'm so tired of hearing "Russia Russia Russia". The Russians haven't done a damn thing to us.

[@buflobobd1]

I wish i could have been with these guys... I lost many friends. I tranferred out on June 18th, one day after the june 17th battle at Xom Bo II of which i also lost 19 friends... Terrible war for all those who never came back. May they all rest in peace. I will definately search them out in the hear after... God Bless The All... Still trying to forget....

[@catxnc]

thank you to all who served and risked their lives - you did not reason why but did your duty - God bless.

[@threesmallpeopleinabigtren5056]

Nothing but absolute respect for our veterans and active service members. It wouldn't be America without you guys.

[@adventure002006]

War is Hell at the best of times. RIP fine soldiers. Such a Powerful story from the men who survived the battle. Thanks for posting

[@reddevilparatrooper]

This is the art of the ambush. This is the stuff that it taught in all infantry schools. There is no good or evil involved because you have to remember the enemy has to out think you. You who is being ambushed now has to think how to get out of the kill zone to counter the enemy. The US Army Infantry School along with the Ranger School devised Battle Drills from the experience in Vietnam. Battle Drill # 2 React to Contact, #3 Break Contact, #4 React to Ambush. This has to be instilled in every soldier and leader because a leader can be a casualty and the soldier has to step up to be a leader. Prior to the Invasion of Panama of 1989-90 we practiced this for months in the jungles in Panama. We did blank fire force on force movement to contact and live fire on pop up targets on ambush lanes. Every soldier had to be ready to step up to the job of squad leader or team leader. It was the same when the invasion hit but my unit was fighting in Panama City. No matter what the terrain the Battle Drill applies. My unit other unit I was in did the same for pre-deployment to Iraq. I had to instill these drills to my young soldiers. From 2006 through 2008 I was with 2 different infantry battalions. We trained and did actions on contact rehearsals before any missions. To succeed is to react quickly and kill. To fail. Well its a body bag. Combat is pure luck. It can go both ways. Training is most important because it can be automatic through fear. Fear is good when you control it and it gives you automatic response either in command of by reflex within your unit. In any battle you can hunt the enemy, but the enemy is also hunting you. When you meet. Then shit really hits the fan. Hit hard because combat will only cheer on those who are aggressive when it happens.

[@Halcyon1861]

Obviously since your screen name is what it is you're still in Panama in the jungle thirty years ago wishing that invasion was more than it was.

[@vernontorgerson9049]

Thank You for your service sir.

[@davidkovach5866]

Thanks for the upload.good insight.

[@Bemetube]

The battle actually began the week before. My unit was in the beginning of it. Every night ambush patrols went out were ambushed and we lost one to several guys every night. The NVA guy was right, they used signals by hitting against trees or other sticks to give their troops directions as to our ambush patrols, 12 man teams. They were in the trees observing us. They also had land-line radios gathering intelligence. Long story.

[@FTroop37F]

+PaulTid...Welcome home, Paul

[@erikpoelman2003]

PaulTid i

[@desmondcowperthwaite5476]

Brave men

[@Chris-vq5vr]

brah ket maybe you should ask the US government you fucking moron.

[@Chris-vq5vr]

PaulTid welcome back, Paul.

[@hckyplyr9285]

Real good commentary here, thanks.

[@km09km08]

Respect for them who was killed in action only to save their comrades! From the Netherlands.

[@gerry301]

Yes, and northern Germany as well. Spent 4 years at Ramstein AB, and did a bit of traveling. The cold weather is one reason I retired in Florida. Sunny, blue skies, palm trees blowing in the breeze most every day. :)

[@Specialized61]

Thank you to all you Veterans out there!

[@juancavanaugh6618]

I have to write a paper about ur video. Thanks you so much!

[@randy95023]

Lt. Colonel Terry Allen in 1967 was a lot like General Custer at the Little Big Horn. He was amazed that "savages" could whip a modern US Army Unit in open battle. He marched his Companies into a clear defeat through his arrogance. Dying in battle was the only thing that allowed him to die a "Hero". Had he lived he should have been drummed out of the Army. Being born the son of a General is a lot different than being a Born Leader of men. It was an accident of birth that put his men in jeopardy and cost him his own life. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the bullet that killed him came from an American rifle. Young enlisted men will kill, or die for their comrades. Killing an Incompetent Leader will save your comrades just as much as killing a Competent Enemy Leader. Allen should have lead a quiet life back in El Paso Texas where he was born, instead of getting a bunch of young American soldiers slaughtered in the Jungles of Vietnam just because he was born to a father with Stars on his shoulders...

[@Mike_Davidson]

Military Officers supposedly study the history of warfare as to not repeat "Little Big Horns". That's exactly what the Battle of Ong Thanh was except it wasn't a battle at all. It was a senseless massacre.

[@jimkramer5372]

Try that

[@randy109]

Sad that Mr. Allen thought he had to follow "in his father's footsteps" or he might still be alive, playing with his grandchildren. A lot of his men probably wish he had stayed home rather than try to prove something to his father or his family name.

[@rmwtsou]

Cut him some slack. The guy died for his country. RIP.

[@Mike_Davidson]

rmwtsou “No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.” - George S. Patton

[@pbrucpaul]

Big Red One! Straight leg no-nonsense Grunts. This is one outfit that has proven itself with the U.S Army over the years. God bless them.

[@patertre]

Battle of Ong Thanh. Never forget this horrible battle. Vietnam War, Vietnam Vets, and POW_MIA_KIA are always on my mind, heart and prayers. Always, always. Never forget them, never. R.I.P.

[@tteedghihh]

Welch is so badass. PS: This video doesn't show it, but the documentary describes what happened before hand when they were planning the attack. Welch said it was suicidal to attack head on into a fortified position, but Colonel Alan insinuated he was just being a coward and threatened to replace him. So that's why the stupidity happened.

[@latouselatrec]

журналист yeep that's right . thats why alpha co. was in front

[@ligayaflores5916]

Then the colonel got killed for his stupidity.

[@FatGuyInLitlCoat]

What documentary?

[@akustik_prog1601]

FatGuyInLitlCoat two days In October

[@Helpwood]

These men who served in the United States Army of Alpha and Delta Companies "The Black Lions" served with honor , not one of you can tarnish the spirit of what they fought and gave their lives for (these were men of many backgrounds, 'colors', belief systems and religions... the NVA were fighting to defend their own belief systems (in their own part of the world) both held their own justifications, their own reasons for being there ; both sides: great courage, tremendous resolve> respect them.

[@MrTrug]

Tôi là người Việt Nam tôi tự hào và nhớ ơn những người anh hùng đã chết cho hoà bình và độc lập, tự do của đất nước. Chúng tôi yêu hoà bình nhưng chưa bao giờ sợ chiến tranh. Bất kỳ kẻ thu nào đến sâm lược Việt Nam thì người Việt Nam sẽ chiến đấu và nguyện hi sinh vì đất Nước. Tôi yêu hoa bình, tự do. Yêu đất nước tôi và yêu các bạn những người bạn của Việt Nam. ❤

[@richardpluim4426]

I dont know what you are saying, but from me....God bless the people of Vietnam.

[@trevorbanks3602]

Thank God for each and every one of you who served your country in Vietnam!!! My absolute respect to all of you, each and every one!!!

[@subscriber0080]

Piece of shit war criminals.

[@zd9993]

@@subscriber0080 not all were war criminals and im sure most of the war criminals are more respectable than an internet troll like you

[@greasyflight6609]

"Dead Silence...such a lonely kind of feeling"...unreal...brutal

[@saucejohnson9862]

It blows my mind when people make fun of US documentaries as being "biased" while unknowingly praising a US documentary that shows both sides of the story.

[@rezaf8863]

Nice I enjoyed of Vietnam war

[@a1no1x]

I just finished reading "They Marched into Sunlight"... great book, tragic War.

[@Hi-lb8cq]

For the men who served in vietnam ...thank you for your service and sacrifices

[@Hi-lb8cq]

@bLackstar fuck them

[@Hi-lb8cq]

@bLackstar what a stupid question

[@tylersalyer5138]

well said Randy

[@ChosenMan-be8mz]

“Varus varus give me back my legions!” Springs to mind 😪

[@birdlegs360]

This is my old unit, I was a black lion. this battle took place in October 1967, I was assigned to alpha company in December, missed the fight by two month's. But I do not recognize any of the guy's on the video.

[@FTroop37F]

+ron bedford...Welcome home, Ron

[@binary512]

Ron Bedford, Did you know Robert (Bobby) Weiher, KIA 3/28/69? If so, email me at [e-mail].

[@mikeymike7152]

This is a kind depiction of this battle.

[@Longhorn77Gunner]

The US never lost a battle of any consequence- that's what is taught. None the less, Ong Thanh was a horrible loss. I was Gen. Hay's helicopter door gunner at this time, and we were flying overhead. We got there towards the end (it only lasted about 90 mins.). When he heard over the radio that over 30 bodies were still left there, he put his head in his hands and said "dear God....". The blame goes to Col. Allen for his foolish tactics. Had he lived, he might have been stripped of command.

[@gerry301]

Thanks. I looked it up and it was an interesting read. Most of the information I have read indicates severe damage to the VC, including various statements from the NVA on damage done in 1968 and specifically under operation Phoenix. I always knew the VC continued to exist and did continue to make a contribution to the norths efforts until the end of the war, only of what significance. I'll have to keep this in mind in the future.

[@pbrucpaul]

1st Infantry "Big Red One" has a proud history of straight leg soldiers in the U.S Army. Omaha Beach to Vietnam they've been faithful and enduring. They deserve that 'everlasting' respect. That's from an 11 delta 11th Armored Cavalry soldier.

[@FTroop37F]

+pbruc brooks...Welcome home Black Horse soldier. I'm only a couple of hours from the NTC

[@charliep5139]

People forget how amazing the Vietnamese people are in terms of fight prowess. Hanoi was probably the most fortified airspace in history, and at this point in the war, their army was probably the best light infantry force in the world. By the end of the war, they were one of the top armies in the world. After fighting the US to a draw, at best in US terms, they defeated the South Vietnamese army, rolled Pol Pot out of power and fought the Chinese military to a draw. They were no joke...

[@darkcat5649]

Yeah i forgot they kicked Cambodia’s ass when the Khmer Rouge started raiding and killing villagers on their border

[@darkcat5649]

Oh and the French they got defeated as well

[@zhoubaidinh403]

We tried our best to give them a 'lesson' about invading Cambodia...let's just say both sides learned a lot!

[@greasyflight6609]

I hope they are on our side now

[@Marinobay]

These are real men (both sides). Regarless of political views, it takes guts to do what both sides did. You can't blame the grunts on the frontline for being TOLD what to do. God rest the souls who perished..

[@samstewart4807]

A very good video. Are you the producer?

[@m3ea2w93]

I think about what these poor guys went through and it kills me. That lieutenant clark and sergeant bud johnson should have been awarded the congressional medal of honor for their bravery and heroism. RIP to all these brave soldiers. Someone from the military should lobby on their behalf to get these medals issued even if posthumously.

[@metalfuk1]

nothing in history makes me sadder than vietnam. A completely pointless war that hurt america so bad, and left vietnam utterly destroyed.

[@subscriber0080]

The Vietnamese people had centuries of warfare before the U.S invasion.

[@johnzowert2406]

Agreed. It takes tremendous courage to go to war and fight against a determined enemy. No matter what side you're on, what the cause is or how you justify being there. Its not up to the individual soldier, especially because many of these men were drafted and had no choice but to go to war when their country called on them. War is the ultimate test on a human being's will to survive and ability to overcome fear. Its about being scared half to death but grabbing your rifle and marching on anyway.

[@mihaeltomasovic]

speaking of which i was wondering if you ever watched the Battlefield: Vietnam series? i used to watch it when it came on TV back when i was first in the army... i learned a good bit from it i also love some of the documentaries like Operation Babykiller and First Kill and i read We Were Soldiers Once, and Young which i found fascinating.

[@NguyenThanhat---cj9qi]

A thing you need to know. VietCong did not eat anything for 6 days. But they clear nearly all two Company. Oh my god

[@sky465]

Jerry Lancaster from Lebanon TN, a year younger than me. We rode the same school bus, dated the same girls and were really good friends back in high school. I was already in Nam with B company 4/503d Airborne Infantry, 173d Abn. Bde. (1967) and I didn't learn of Jerry getting killed until sometime in the 70's. Jerry was one of the 64 killed in this battle.

[@donmay3251]

god bless our men and the u s a . thank you all

[@manunitedphong]

Nam war, the war we'll never forget, so much men's were killed, many American and NVA soldiers, one of them was my grandfather, he was killed in the battle, miss him much but this is a war, cannot predict anything. R.I.P all

[@kdolo100]

U.S. during that time were playing the role of advisers. There were many skirmishes and firefights after that. The U.S. didn't commit "combat" troops till 65. Check out Battlefield Vietnam on here. It's an interesting piece.

[@preparedsurvivalist2245]

The VC soldier said it best. He had no idea why Americans were attacking his country, he was just defending it. These giant green men came with aircraft, bombs, and weaponry the Vietnamese had never seen. The VC would fight back no matter what, even at a human toll of ten to one as Ho Chi Minh said, and still prevail. Of course, nobody won this war, not on paper or otherwise. Millions of Vietnamese died, and even when they vanquished the U.S. military, their country only got worse.

[@donadaso9168]

@Rob Rage defend for that shitty puppets government

[@resolvedwhite1743]

As an America I thank the Vietnam Veterans for their service and for fighting for my freedoms. My dad was a B-17 gunner, My number was the first year they ended the draft. I offer a prayer for the Veterans, May the Lord Jesus bless and protect you and prosper your life and give you peace and before the end comes you will choose heaven, Amen

[@4y6857]

My number was called the FIRST year they had the lottery. I didn't wait to get drafted into Army Infantry, I enlisted in the Air Force. My dad and uncle were both Seabees in WW2. Thank you for your prayers, for me and others. Why My Lord Jesus brought me back alive while 58,000+ of our contemporaries didn't... Well, I don't question that anymore, I'm just grateful. Having said that, I will be so blunt as to say, "Don't thank me for fighting for your freedoms (in Viet Nam)." Our involvement in VN was not to help anyone be free. We got involved there in the first place to help France re-establish the colonial rule over VN that it had lost during WW2. No 'domino theory' in effect or 'march of godless communism' to stop. It was to support the French war of aggression to re-take VN as a French colony. At the end, not even the French were grateful for our involvement.

[@ColaKhanable]

nick nice fuck you

[@wistonlawsons4443]

Resolved White bro with all the respect your freedoms where here in USA not half the way around the world. But respect for those you fought no questions asked

[@FTroop37F]

+4y6857...Welcome home

[@4y6857]

TY

[@ramO-jp8tp]

anyone know where i can see the full version?

[@cassidy99ful]

i'll have to check it out.

[@yourfabuloushappymann5154]

Respect for the dead...Let all wounds be healed....

[@maxazzopardi7446]

10:20 - that dead American soldier they are loading has a gruesome fatal head wound. I'm surprised they put that in the documentary but glad they did. I think it's important to see images like that just to get a small understanding of what our veterans and fallen soldiers have gone through

[@mtvd4all]

I don't know what are you people talking about, braveness, killing each other like animal ??? those ones than send all those brilliant young men to fight for them, are were save and sound !!! ( just for the interest of money and power), not for freedom or to free someone from misery ! I may be wrong !!! but I prefer find a way to live all together instead !!!

[@Roadglide911]

Daniel Corbo well it’s not that you may be wrong, but that you are wrong, ignorant, and gullible. Stay in your safe space snowflake because real men will defend your right to live as a free human.

[@searchthewind99]

We went over there for those countries resources, not to defend your right to live as a free human. What does going on the other side of the world have to do with that? The Vietnamese weren't coming over here attacking us. You're wrong, ignorant and gullible.

[@woofbark4475]

@@searchthewind99 They went to establish a democratic ally against what was perceived as a serious communist threat. Vietnam was not particularly resources rich at all.

[@omertaoutdoors689]

@@Roadglide911 well said now i dont have to type love this country ot leave it.

[@Lionmedic68]

I was with the Black Lions as a medic. We airlifted out of Lai Khe basecamp on 8 Oct. to start our part of Operation Shenandoah II. Between the 8th and the 17th we moved our perimeter 3 times and had firefights nearly every day. We knew that something big was out there. As Jim Shelton put it, "The Beast". On the 16th we got into a major firefight and it was almost like poking an anthill. We knew there were a lot of enemy soldiers, which is why Clark Welch tried to get LTC Allen to hold up until we could get more soldiers. We were operating as a battalion (-), because ur Charlie Co. was attached to another unit and wasn't freed up until they were brought in as reinforcements on the afternoon of the 17th. LTC Allen never led a daily patrol on the ground. He was always in his command chopper, except for this day, in which he didn't want to lose out on any of the "glory". That cost us somewhere between 60-64 soldiers KIA, DoW or Missing, presumed dead, and at least another 75 wounded. It was a sad day all around.

[@MrPyroguru]

I think he was paralyzed with grief because he wife abandoned him at home and he couldn't think very clearly.

[@amandadare698]

Hi there, I was hoping you could help me- my Uncle fought in this battle and lost his life. I know it’s a long shot - but at this point - it’s worth to ask!

[@andrewcurtis1883]

Is the old DAT audio that plays from that actual day?

[@boosted98gst]

Vietnam vets are all hero's......... you men got shit on by our government. Much respect to all that served. Ron, USMC retired

[@pbrucpaul]

1st division has a very respected history all the way back to Omaha beach WW2. They really did their duty in "'Nam. Straight leg soldiers who proved themselves. Amen.

[@runfoo2795]

no the history of the first Division starts in WWI "Semper Paratus"

[@pbrucpaul]

O.K. what battles did they fight back then?

[@runfoo2795]

Campaign Streamers (1) Lorraine; 1917 (2) Lorraine; 1918 (3) Picardy; 1918 (4) Montdidier-Noyon; (5)Aisne-Marne; (6) St. Hihiel; and (7) Meuse-Argonne. the division suffered the first American casualties of the war. When the Armistice was signed. The Division was at Sedan the farthest American penetration of the war. The Division was the first to cross the Rhine claimed five Medals of Honor " Iron Rangers "

[@bg147]

In "They Marched into Sunlight", the author states that radio operators heard Col. Newman with the brigade telling Lt. Col. Allen that he preferred air support and the guns would have to wait for the planes to clear before they could fire, there was a 30 minute wait. Maybe they were just too close. It just seems like Allen took all the blame, but the frontal attack was his idea, I assume. Did battalion commanders have control over tactics? Thanks for the first hand account, very insightful.

[@lifelesstutorialbuilder1]

my grandfather’s brother served in the Vietnam war, he told me that he died from the Vietnamese feeding him to a lion. I never met him.

[@whorayful]

Amen to that sir.

[@kendoan5032]

Exactly. That would have been strategically beneficial for us. Vietnam would be a major power countering China's aggressive military growth these days. There is still hope. It's unbelievable how forgiving the Vietnamese are toward the Americans. Nevertheless, lives were lost all because of bellicose, arrogant politicians who didn't respect history.

[@sass225]

Major shelton wrote a verry good book about this battle based on his personal experiances and interviews with surviviors and army records. the loss of a Col terry allen jr and the 64 men show this engagement was a nva victory.

[@pbrucpaul]

The 1st infantry is a mainstay of the Army in it's history of really getting into the "shit". Straight leggers who proved their 'stuff'' in WW2 (Omaha Beach), Korea, and 'Nam. I give them a hell of a lot of credit!

[@gerry301]

Where did you learn that?

[@NguyenDuy-ob8eq]

What is the name of the original video? Anyway, I'm a Southern Vietnamese here, feel free to AMA!

[@djgoodtimes100]

Three days in october it was a pbs doc my uncle is in this hes Ernie Buentiempo

[@ninomediera1706]

Everybody is gangster untill the trees are moving

[@gerry301]

I would imagine in a case like this that point men would be used and if possible flankers as well. It would be difficult to spot well camoflaged bunkers.

[@amarinetour2154]

tour ! life ! a team !

[@coyotestory]

These type of battle make us wonder why we send our Soldiers to fight wars for other nations? Soldier died and Politicians cover-up with lies their real reasons. Thank you for sharing the video.

[@roadster74cc]

@quaytoiboi ~~~ What flavor is the Cool aid? ~~~~~

[@invinoveritas6859]

Fair game !

[@searcher555]

@BrodaRu The hybrid rice stocks that the US imported to South Vietnam is what grows there today. The higher yields of the hybrids allows Vietnam to export rice instead of just having enough to feeds it's own. The rice originally in use in Vietnam was virtually gone by the 70's.

[@boob485]

i cant image anything worse than seeing all of your friends dead. god bless all the soldiers that serve thank you for your service

[@gerry301]

Scouting was used significantly. Long Range patrols, Special Forces in particular. Once the enemy was found, or their base camps located troops were often flown into the area. No need to be silent if the location is being being attacked and a blocking force is in place. That would be standard procedure for most operations. Stealth was used when patrolling or approaching locations from the ground. And the VC/NVA weren't that quiet either when traveling. Popular myth.

[@prestonho742]

Where is the sound? There is no sound...

[@spinlathes9288]

Heavy shit..

[@Itsaboutthewaterlife]

They Marched Into Sunlight.

[@1mayha]

Việt Nam ơi Cố lên nào!!!! Việt Nam muôn năm!!!!!

[@Hi-lb8cq]

Were they using wool sleeping bag liners as body bags??????

[@bg147]

But I also thought and I cannot recall their names... either the division deputy commander or maybe it was the brig colonel called off the artillery while he waited for air support when they really needed the 105s at that exact moment.

[@LeesTexan]

Sad story.

[@zedono1391]

I never expected to survive 10 years at the front. And, to be honest, I still don’t really feel like I survived.

[@doinok709]

People can argue whether the U.S. should have been there but there is one thing you can count on......if you are an ally the U.S. will come to your aid! Don't blame the brave young men who fought this war....they only did what their country asked. Thank all for their service then and now.

[@sass225]

The Aussie doctrine during the war was to use the min amount of force required to get the job done. an enemy sniper would be engaged with accurate rifle fire if possible the nva themselves admitted the aussie methods worked. south korea,new zealand also commited combat tropps to the war effort.

[@LullabyForKat]

I'm only scanning these for my grandfather.....the child of a product between two countries during the Vietnam war. I know too little about myself and my family. Kills me to watch these because he could be dead or alive.

[@kdolo100]

Yeah i still have battlefield on VHS,lol. We were soldiers, saw the movie, had the book, but accidently lost it. I had stopped at the napalm accident. I got to finish watching first kill.

[@mattlocke06]

That was Westmorelands strategy.The men were the bait for the air, artillery.

[@hoabanglang1406]

Cho tôi hỏi trận chiến này cách sân bay Lai Khê bao nhiêu Km về phía tây được không tôi có tìm kiếm vị trí trận chiến này nhiều lần có tìm thấy dấu vết của trận chiến ( đạn súng M16 , đạn M60 ) nhưng không dám chắc là trận battle Ong Thanh. Mong có ai đó trả lời giúp

[@ShardsOfNarsil]

Khoảng mười dặm về phía tây bắc của Lai Khê từ những gì tôi có thể nói. Bạn đang rất đẹp bằng cách này.

[@napoleong1208]

Exactly!

[@brettlariviere8042]

I'm trying not to hurt fellings but this war was visions

[@mattlocke06]

Im glad I never played a part in that strategy.

[@cassidy99ful]

of course it was a tragedy.my dad was a helicopter pilot in vietnam.won the distinguished flying cross.he tells me the stories of his missions.i think it is therapeutic for him.to purge his demons or whatever.he tells me he at least went over there to let the communists know that there will be a heavy price to pay for their actions. you can spit on your freedom if you want.he went over there so you can do that too.nice that you can.

[@salto0084]

So true! Same like the German Wehrmacht. They were also drafted, fought against the whole world and never gave up. Such honorable men!

[@Oscar-df9sc]

The honorable men were the Vietnamese who fought against super powers, they are the good guys.

[@morrisonreed1]

Love and respect to all these men

[@mihaeltomasovic]

yeah you're right i checked... i had it confused with the larger-scale battle i believe right around the tet offensive when the VC hit ap-bac... that was in the mekong delta i believe along with the other operations... i like talking history do you have facebook by any chance? my wife can't stand history so i don't really have anyone to discuss stuff with or maybe if you don't mind we can chat over inbox messages on here ya kno? take care buddy garryowen!