Viewer Request - USS Enterprise E VS 3 USS Voyager's - Star Trek Starship Battles

[@robbieatnsudotcom]

I honestly thought the 3 intrepids would win, but the Sovereign is THAT ship, even with it being the ST:FC version. That why I'm a Sovereign fan!

[@jasonwestwood7092]

3 Intrepids would definitely win its just the algorithms of this mod.

[@Jarsia]

3:52 Should have edited in a clip of the borg queen shouting "DATA!!" This battle is essentially summed up as Janeway "Coffee, black!!" Picard "Computer, belay that order. Tea, Earl Grey, hot"

[@dougsmith6262]

He doesn't order it hot, he orders it "hawt".

[@HacksignKT]

LUL

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

This is about right. Intrepids are pretty well-armed Heavy Destroyers within a WWII naval framework. They generate a lot of power for their size, are better armed than many Light Cruisers, but have superior speed and endurance to other smaller starships. Your DW Intrepid refits would only require two to take out a Sovereign.

[@tarn1135]

The intrepid class was (if memory serves) essentially a long range scout. not a “heavy destroyer “. Given a straight up battle, a sovereign should be able to smack at least 3 intrepids. Not with ease but should win, so I’d say this was pretty spot on.

[@JackSterlingUK]

Tom Paris himself stated in The Thaw that the ship was built for combat performance. This fits with the fact that the Intrepid class has 14 type X phaser banks, the most advanced photon torpedoes with four rapid fire launchers, tri cobalt devices. It was also sent on its own to hunt down the Maquis. Definitely not a scout ship. It's a light cruiser built In the Borg era where ships were made more efficient and combat effective.

[@mito-pb8qg]

@@JackSterlingUK Not a pure scout ship, no, but a deep space reconnaissance vessel (high speed, great sensors, accommodations for long trips). The number of phaser banks doesn't matter as much as the power output it can feed them with - and the Intrepid is a comparatively small design and thus, while capable, still simply somewhat limited there. Not to say she got no teeth, the design is agile and can take a beating (which I think Paris' comment was more geared towards than outright firepower), but she really ain't no warship. And those rapid fire launchers...pretty much all TNG-era designs seem to have quite capable launchers, just look at the First Contact fleet hosing the Cube with torps till kingdom come.

[@Revkor]

@@ts757arse No she is like cruiser

[@Revkor]

@@ts757arse okay minus crew size look at her power. she was easily matching a heavy cruiser from a century ago and her size as about the same as a connie so not destroyer.

[@hunter7]

I’m pretty sure the request also said something about 3 Sovereigns vs a GRAND NAGUS!!! Thanks!! Awesome battle, glad it was a nail biter!

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Muhaha! I'll add that to the list 🖖

[@hunter7]

@@RetroBadgerGaming 🫡 you’re an officer amongst red shirts, sir.

[@aquariandawn4750]

48 hours without coffee is actually prohibited by the Geneva convention

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@retluoc]

That WAS close! Those Intrepids are fast and nimble. Hahaha... BLT got some systems back up. 😆 I was watching a rerun of the Equinox episodes a week ago. Great nickname for her. If I were Tom, I would have kept calling her that.😀

[@dougsmith6262]

I figured the Sovereign would come out on top. But honestly, that was closer than I thought it would be. That not being able to multi target is a pain in the ass.

[@davidread83]

Thank you for this! Closer than I thought! The torpedo guidance system could use some work.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Indeed! Certain ships have more accurate torpedoes. Usually the torpedoes which are assigned to the disruptor key seem to have a 100% accuracy for some reason..

[@PieEatinSuicideGrunt]

​@@RetroBadgerGamingTorpedoes fire directly forward/backward out of your ship and then they try to track the target a little. Disruptor type weapons don't need to be aimed as they always fire towards the predicted location of the target

[@stevelapierre4776]

😨gosh Admiral.. 3 Voyagers.. yes that was close.. I knew the ship was tough but wow.. The Ent E was launched 1 year after Voyager so this seems about right.. I am surprised Voyager held up with quantums. hmm. great battle Admiral.. I was nervous of the outcome lol. .. very nice... !😊🖖

[@jasonwestwood7092]

No way the Enterprise E is 3 times stronger.

[@TrentonBennett]

I say you got lucky with these three Voyagers. Especially using the First Contact version of the Enterprise-E. It was a cool match though.

[@Prang972]

Picard: nicely done.

[@skyserf]

2:55 😬🫡 Wasn’t sure you were going to win that one. How much can damage control repair if given enough time? Will the hull regenerate?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

HAHA! Well, in remastered, it acts more like that the base game. So not much repair capability. You would have to wait a long time for systems to repair. However in Kobayashimaru, you can increase power to the repair systems which speeds things up and you can do an Emergency Repair of a specific system which is very fast.

[@skyserf]

@@RetroBadgerGaming They should get a couple dozen Exocomps 🙂

[@kalofkrypton]

Being relative contemporaries and the Inteepids being as advanced as they were at launch, this seems pretty legit.

[@scottferriss6435]

My friend, I would like to request to see more of the updated Nemesis version of the Enterprise E as this is my personal favorite.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Coming soon 🖖

[@ITS_TYLER-b4h]

Can you do the lokota vs the excelsior 2 from Picard!? I’d love to see how they compare!!

[@EdricLysharae]

Great battle! Three Interceptor/Exploration vessels against a Ship of the Line. The Sovereign was specifically designed with battles in mind. It makes sense that it could best 3+ Intrepids.

[@getreal6124]

You flew that well. Congratulations

[@scpguy1381]

Haven’t seen it yet, but considering how there Akira did against the Intrepid, I think the Sovereign will win

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

Well dont you forget, the Intrepids were some of the few classes in the initiatve designed to combat the Borg, after all the incidents with them. Like the Defiant class and co. Even tho they are classed in as science and exploratory vessels, they still have many of those seemingly overpowered upgrades, thats why they have so high class phasers and all and are able to punch above their weight.

[@captainjaller8604]

damage is that bad that brex pulled all his hair out

[@XHunter442]

Queen Borg:DATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.... Data: Resistance is FUTILE! I saw them 3 Quantum's that missed lol!

[@JackSterlingUK]

Realistically speaking, based on what we see in First Contact and Insurrection, two Intrepid class ships could defeat a Sovereign class - as long as they use their superior agility to keep out of sight of quantum torpedoes, which the Sovereign can only fire forwards. 2 Sona ships firing only photon torpedoes (at a fairly slow rate of fire) inflicted heavy damage on the Enterprise E in Insurrection. The Intrepid class has better photons, and fires far faster.

[@八雨橫秋]

I think this is a problem with the plot arrangement of TNG dramas Wolf, the strongest among the protagonists, is often knocked down, and the most advanced Galaxy-class and Monarch-class are only used as main scenes in the plot. The scene in the uprising highlighted this problem even more, as the Enterprise was constantly under attack without even a single counterattack. Just to show off the joystick and Rick tactics

[@timmytheimpaler]

Now how about seeing how many E's it would take to defeat a Voyager J?

[@mito-pb8qg]

God the Sovy is so f***ing beautiful

[@steveperuski5547]

That was a great battle, well played Retro👍👍

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Thanks Steve! Seems quite wasteful destroying 3 intrepid Class Starships though, haha.

[@brentcowell5776]

still want to know if they built more torpedoes while in the delta quadrant given they used up their compliment during the first n second year there!!!

[@johnmilton2242]

I loved this game back in the day. It was amazing back in its day. Tried it again years ago with mods, but the game is to basic now for my tastes. Really wanting a bridge commander 2 to be done with fleet command, ship customisation and crew management to name a few features that need to be added.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Here's hoping we get something! The TV Franchise is as popular as ever, so it's now or never. We had 3 Star Trek games released last year. Fingers crossed there's more in the works. A Bridge Commander 2 would be epic.

[@robinvan1983]

How many sabre class ships do you need to kill a sovereign?

[@MarinaSally]

Don’t fight janeway when she doesn’t have her coffee ☕️ 😊😵😵

[@XHunter442]

awesome video and LLAP!

[@alanbaker2347]

Janeway....... disable the Enterprise so we can beam there replicater over and I can have my coffee

[@deepdivedylan]

The intrepids didn't perform their best on account of an outbreak of food poisoning 🤢

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Ooooh, so that's why the mess hall was closed!I thought it was another Macro virus outbreak 🖖

[@LukewarmEnthusiast]

You're lucky Janeway didn't use the tri-cobalt devices. After all, Voyager did launch with those and they weren't used until Janeway wanted to torture her crew by stranding them on the other side of the galaxy.

[@MisterMarin]

0:44 "Of course you could argue that Seven of Nine refitted Voyager a little..." It physically hurts me that you missed an opportunity to insert a clip from First Contact of Worf saying "Little?". Literal chest pain. 😉

[@jasonwestwood7092]

VOYAGER WITH UPGRADES WOULD MATCH THE Enterprise E.

[@TheBaronAmaruPhoenix]

wowwww thought the intrepids would win

[@sharonec5419]

Any chance you could do the Original TNG Enterprise D V a Borg Cube like the very first time they met maybe in thst very system too see how far you get. Then do it with a Romulan D'DEREDIX. Class ship then a Klingon Ne Vagh then a Ferengi Maruadar and a Cardassian ship too as well as maybe a Breen abd Tholian ship :) Thst would be good to watch.

[@HacksignKT]

Fing CLUTCH.

[@jamesbarrow904]

I'd like to pitch a request for the World Razor to go up against the overpowered Enterprise Era phaser spammer USS Yorktown.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Great idea! Hopefully the game can handle it. The Yorktown has to be the trickiest ship to run in Bridge Commander. The game always crashes. Will give it a try though 😂🖖

[@jamesbarrow904]

An Idea I have would be to portray it as ISS Yorktown in the Enterprise Era mirror universe which was built using tech inspired by USS Defiant 1764 to explain it's obviously overpowered nature. Empress Sato attempted to recreate the Thollian's experiment that lured in the futuristic Defiant in hopes of bringing in a more advanced ship and ended up luring in the World Razer instead of a Federation ship.

[@sharonec5419]

The Intrepids really shoukd have won that. I must say the third one was the best Tactical one. Try seemed to give up fighting after a while do. Are you not able to fire if your sensors are down? That is kind of stupid if that is the case.

[@JackSterlingUK]

Without clever tactics - targeting sensors, you'd have been destroyed.

[@supersmashfight]

Viewer Request what if the vesta class trapped in the delta quadrant.

[@JackSterlingUK]

Many people erroneously class the Intrepid class as a science or a scout ship. This is inaccurate. Tom Paris himself stated in The Thaw that the ship was built for combat performance. This fits with the fact that the Intrepid class has 14 type X phaser banks, the most advanced photon torpedoes with four rapid fire launchers, tri cobalt devices. Voyager was sent on its own to hunt down the Maquis. Definitely not a scout ship. It's a light cruiser built In the Borg era where ships were made more efficient and combat effective. The Intrepid class is actually larger than than the original Enterprise 01, and Enterprise A.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

I completely agree with you on this. I specifically remember Tom saying that in Harrys Quarters I think. The intrepid class very much had a combat focus design. Like you say it was built in the Borg era, like the Nova Class. They definitely wouldn't have sent a science ship after the Maquis. I never knew Voyager was larger than the Original Connie! In basics it engaged so many Kazon ships, very impressive for a ship it's size 🖖

[@markriser1]

1701-E fired first? That means Jean-Luc Picard is not in command.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

3 Constellation Class vs an OG Galaxy Class Or 1 Constellation if you think you can channel your inner Riker 🤣😂🤣

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

HAHA! Added to the list 🖖

[@travkeyes]

still think they under value voyagers weapons. their phasers are on par with the galaxy. and it having quantum torpedos which it is capable of using, voyager should be a close fight for a galaxy class. but they always make them like 1/2 as powerful...

[@ErokCherokee]

I agree. In terms of mission capability it's 85% of what the Galaxy class can do.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

He has a Dominion War variant Intrepid that uses quantums and has heavier everything.

[@dougsmith6262]

The Intrepid class wasn't intended to be a Galaxy, but smaller. A deep space exploration, yes, but not as long-term. It's strengths lie in its advanced shields, speed, maneuverability, and state-of-the-art computer systems. I recall an Admiral at DS9 telling Janeway that while she may not have the size and firepower of a galaxy class, she's quick and smart. And I think it was the first Starfleet starship capable of traversing the badlands.

[@travkeyes]

@@dougsmith6262 no it was in the episode realitivity, and he said she may not be as large as. and the producers of the show and designer said her phasers were type 10 phaser arrays just like the galaxy. and the warp core was more advanced.

[@mito-pb8qg]

"their phasers are on par with the galaxy" based on what info? They might be of the same type, but the Galaxy class is only a few years older and absolutely HUGE, its overall power output should be quite a bit larger. Much more juice to put through those phasers and shield emitters. I think the Intrepid is fairly well represented in this - it is a small- to midsized, very fast reconnaissance vessel first and foremost (hence the great sensors), not a capital ship. From a purely tactical point of view, it's supposed to fly out deep into dangerous space using its speed to get there uninterrupted, gather intel and hunt small game whereever possible, and then run like hell back into Federation space (compare its first mission: Hunt in the Badlands). AND then there's the "more advanced" thing...which doesn't really mean anything in terms of power.