Viewers Mistakes #4 | Any Faster is Fatal

[@ashley_neal]

Hi everyone 👋Just to note the grades are for risk of the actual incident, not to what could happen in a different situation. Thanks for all the comments 👍

[@6yjjk]

Hi Ashley. Are you able to flip the video of the rear cameras? I think it would make it easier to interpret what's going on if the view were what we'd get in the mirror.

[@ashley_neal]

Some want it flipped, some don't.

[@facelessvaper]

What prompted the grade system, can't say I am keen...

[@Christian-ve1wi]

The car undertaking wasn't graded was that because the driving was ungradable which it was. Horrendous driving this wasn't a mistake like most people make it was a deliberate inpatient act with potential to ruin many peoples day.

[@iFROS7]

@@facelessvaper always at school when driving lol

[@charliemurphy9411]

That last clip made me shake my head when I realised they had parking sensors too 😂

[@mrmelon54]

If my parking sensors are beeping then I slowdown or stop and make sure I can see why they are beeping before continuing

[@me5969]

That's what I thought. At first I thought maybe it was in a blind spot but unless your parking sensors have been playing up, like they're dirty or damaged or something then that lad deserved "Z-"

[@picklestheswift]

Yep my exact thought...

[@unsafevelocities5687]

That was a surprise, given that it was obvious what was going to happen. Where's their object permanence anyway? I saw the bollard behind the Jaguar SUV; if it were me driving, when I put it in reverse I'd have audibly said (passengers or not), "Now where's that bollard?"

[@kalkoeng6325]

exactly, i would have understood it cause it may have been really difficult to spot. but his damn sensors were going off, no excuse

[@thomasnichol5127]

2:47 For the horse riders that argue against hi-vis by saying things like "if you can't see a horse you shouldn't be driving", just look at how close the car is when the horse becomes clearly visible. Now imagine the distance the horse would be clearly visible if it was wearing a bright yellow or orange rug. This is an important lesson for every road user. You don't become invisible without hi-vis, but you do significantly reduce the time other road users have to react appropriately.

[@robertocurrlos7470]

Your right but still should go slowly 😊

[@WazeemA]

"Priority is irrelevant if you're dead!".. This really should be part of the learner theory test!

[@RichO1701e]

Don't tell the Americans... They'd rather die than surrender priority

[@cdn42]

Another instructor I follow on KZbin tends to say "you can be right - or you can be dead right" when talking about *taking* the right of way/priority instead of it being given. Ashley's version is a bit more succinct and hammers the nail on the head I think. A+.

[@aj7058]

Priority should always be defensive. What's important is not taking it when it isn't yours.

[@clarence5211]

‘priority is irrelevant if you’re dead’ words to live by!

[@DAFPvnk]

THat last one is just embarassing if they think they arent 100% at fault, for hitting a stationary object, with parkign sensors telling them to stop.

[@kenbrown2808]

it sounded like they understood they did it to themselves. but the BMW and the jAAAAag could have exercised a bit of patience.

[@saraadam3941]

He knows he’s at fault that’s why he sent the clip in. I think people are missing the point of the video 😅

[@mechanoid5739]

You know the old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished". Trying to reverse to give the jag some room but, as you say, you could hear the parking sensor going off!

[@freddiekb1004]

Why didn't the cammer just move before the BMW even arrived?

[@jastat]

​@@mechanoid5739 proximity sensor*

[@screally1152]

In the first clip, given how fast the motorcyclist was travelling, I wouldn't be surprised if the viewer couldn't even see them when they started their manoeuvre

[@Wolfy11188]

Yeah this happens all too often with motorbikes, you look left, look right, look left, look right, pull out and before you know it a motorbike flies up behind you doing 100+ in a 50. There's a road near me where everyone speeds along it honestly so you tend to pull out as fast as you can even when the road is clear, I'm amazed police don't sit on it from time to time with a camera.

[@highdownmartin]

That bike wasn’t travelling fast. It was very close when the cammer pulled out. Poor assessment of speed because of the size of the bike from the front view. I doubt if he was doing 60.

[@highdownmartin]

How fast was the bike then. 100? 120? I doubt he was speeding

[@Gobbbbb]

@@highdownmartin Are you being sarcastic? Look at when the viewer gets up to 40mph and look how fast that bike is pulling away. I'm a motorcyclist and that was ridiculous speed from the bike, if you choose to travel at that speed, then you can't blame anyone else but yourself.

[@highdownmartin]

@@Gobbbbb probably accelerating after some disk just pulled out. I’ve been riding 40 years and am no hero. I don’t think he was going at an in reasonable speed, but he maybe could have planned for the junction being more of a hazard

[@MatrixFuse]

Ashley you forgot to grade the bollard in the last clip! It did a mighty job at stopping the car, so I'm give sir bollard an A

[@burgersnchips]

The bollard was too low, it can't be an A. B at best. B for Bollard.

[@markwright3161]

@@burgersnchips It should take some pride in its job and stand tall for what it represents :)

[@remibejide]

8:10 That parent, actually, scores an F. That was hair raising.

[@Zaranathax]

I agree - that was scary!

[@PedroConejo1939]

True. The cammer should have eased off as soon as they saw the pedestrians though. Some yesterday commented that as soon as they see a child or pedestrian approaching a crossing, they accelerate. How would that have worked out?

[@cargy930]

@@PedroConejo1939 This is something I've noticed with a lot of drivers in my town, Pedro. What I usually encounter is almost a form of unconscious panic: The notion that "If I go faster through the hazard it's (somehow) safer" or "I don't like this hazard, so I'll speed up to get it over and done with much sooner" seems to get the better of many drivers.

[@colinjava8447]

@@PedroConejo1939 Although in fairness to the driver, the kids were obscured behind that sign and the white thing so it wasn't obvious they were there.

[@epsleon]

Indeed. She doesn't even realise the driver just saved her kid's life until she starts crossing, having noticed her kid crossing. Then it clicks that the kid shouldn't have been crossing.

[@jamierorrison2246]

I must admit to a sharp intake of breath when I saw the kid on the bike clip. That was scary, well done to the driver on their reactions regardless of the extra speed.

[@matt821]

The kid on the balance bike is the reason why I drive so slowly past parked cars in our village, and more often than not realise I'm slowing other drivers who'd happily blast along at 30.

[@WavScorn259]

Good stuff man

[@ericritchie6783]

This is it people should feel entitled to hold off from from the full speed limit and not feel pressured buy those who just feel entitled to barrel up against speed limits every time and slip over more often than not. Trouble is all the impatience and pressurising can cause a sense of anxiety to be going slower, then you might even be marked down and fail your driving test in the first place for doing 25 in 30, if the examiner decides they personally don't like that your not "achieving the speed limit" even though there's no legal requirement to be doing the full limit at every perceived opportunity...

[@ibs5080]

Really like this new system of rating each road user involved in a situation. It reinforces the idea that in any situation, each road user could have done something to avoid the situation and not just the one that may have had full priority or the one that was "correct" in the eyes of the law or HC.

[@picklestheswift]

Yes I quite agree 😊

[@ibs5080]

@@picklestheswift For that, you get an A! 😊

[@picklestheswift]

@@ibs5080 not an A* 😂😂😂😂

[@ibs5080]

@@picklestheswift Ah well yes if Ashley's scoring system includes it. 😊

[@thomaselliot2257]

For the content and ,as Ashley would say, "quality" of all your comments , you deserve a Gold Star 🌟. Safe journey tomorrow

[@lee53_]

Agh, GCSE exams start tomorrow and I can't even escape grade anxiety with Ashley's videos! Really like the grading idea, even if it doesn't give any escapism from reality lol

[@ashley_neal]

Good luck with the GCSE's. Try to relax and do the best you can do 👊

[@picklestheswift]

Good luck 🍀🍀🤞 if I did it you can too 😀

[@smilerbob]

Good luck, relax and try your best and you got this 👍

[@brendanm6921]

You can't do any worse than Will from The Inbetweeners. Shoulders back and smash it!

[@bailey125]

Good luck. I did mine a few years ago and I found the best way to do my best was to try to not overthink it and panic cram. You can only do your best and thats by staying calm and knowing you're going to try your hardest. I hope all the best for you!

[@GlidingTobster]

Last clip; I think a D is a bit generous when the parking sensor system is giving a STOP tone and they're continuing to reverse.

[@Alan_Clark]

I agree. They collide with a stationary object that they should have been aware of, and damage the car with an unforced error, so an F would be fair.

[@TheKruxed]

T for tit

[@climatechangedoesntbargain9140]

@@Alan_Clark though he's helping out, so you could say, he definitely could do worse (e.g. crashing the vehicle in front)

[@DjDolHaus86]

He was going up a slope which can give a false reading on the sensors. Still a complete mess of errors, why they didn't just get out in front of the first BMW is completely beyond me, staying there just made theirs and everyone else's job harder

[@1066gaz]

If you can recognise your own mistakes, you will make a great driver. If you cannot admit to your own mistakes, then it's only a matter of time before you will have an accident.

[@VoxelLoop]

I think recognising your own mistakes is crucial for all parts of life, not just driving. :)

[@davebadger100]

How someone reversing into a bollard, with the parking sensor screaming, doesn't get an F is beyond me.

[@blower1]

Crappy sensors didn't do the solid beep until *after* hitting the post. Guess its a crap car (summit like a vauxhall)

[@davebadger100]

@@blower1 Agreed. But I'd still be stopping the second I heard that sensor, especially when I couldn't see anything obvious behind.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@davebadger100 but they did stop, so it's better than some.

[@davebadger100]

@@kenbrown2808 Everyone will stop when they've rammed into an immovable object. I don't think they get a choice.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@davebadger100 there was a crash in my area years ago, where a drunk driver left the road and hit a tree. the firefighters reported when they got to the scene, the driver was still maintaining 55 MPH.

[@ChlorophilG]

8:50 That bollard also looks relatively low, maybe it couldn't be seen out the back of a modern vehicle with a high back window. Fair enough, it should have been spotted earlier, but with all the distractions going on, it might be easy to forget its position and a quick check in the rearview might have shown nothing.

[@frafraplanner9277]

I can't stand how hard it is to see out the back window of modern cars. It's even getting hard to see out the back of some SUVs now

[@LOLHICRONO]

if it's a modern car with a high window then it most likely has a reverse camera that would clearly show it.

[@MrKwabs-sn1lv]

Driver of the near miss with the kid at 8:00 here. I was surprised to see that the GPS speed read as high as 33MPH as I assumed it would read at least 3MPH higher than my speedometer. But I drove that road daily and frequently used cruise control (even in this clip) with the speed set to 33MPH, I now set it to exactly 30MPH as shown on the dash. I wish I had realised that she was on the phone at the time as I would have given her a bollocking but in the moment I assumed it was just a mistake that kids make... It was lucky I saw the kid at all with the ridiculous placement of the sign but thankfully I was switched on. Thanks for featuring my clip.

[@johnflavin1602]

What was good was that you were paying attention to your driving and not using your phone like so many drivers these days. That to me is more important than being 3 mph over a speed limit.

[@shm5547]

Can I suggest rather than cruise control, you use the speed limiter. Cruise control is rarely suitable for use in an urban environment as you should be modulating your speed to the conditions. In this case, you should have passed the waiting pedestrians much slower than 30mph, 15-20 mph would be more appropriate. I wondered if your vehicle has automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection? Most modern cars would have automatically applied the brakes in this scenario.

[@MrKwabs-sn1lv]

@@shm5547 Nope, this is a 2006 Lexus LS430. No speed limiter and no pedestrian detection. I use cruise control so my foot is resting on the brake pedal, waiting for moments like this. I agree that I should have spotted the risk earlier (hard with the sign in the way) and slowed but I don't agree with slowing down to as little as 15mph.

[@shm5547]

@@MrKwabs-sn1lv you did well to stop in time, it was probably because your foot was covering the brake pedal. However, I still can't think using cruise control in 30mph urban areas is a good idea. It's far better to modulate your speed passing potential risky situations like this and you can still cover the brake as you coast past the danger. There's a crossing near me that has very poor visibility, with vans parked right up to it. It's a main high street with a 30mph limit, but I will always slow to 15-20 mph when approaching it. More likely to use 15mph if wet / dark.

[@Realpoweronearth]

Yes well done a good emergency stop that woman was completely irresponsible those children should be taught to use the road safely ie no cars green Cross code was a big thing in the seventies with Peter purvis I think😮

[@mixerfistit5522]

One thing to take from the crossing incident is that not only is the speed just over 30 it's sustained. Whilst I was in Germany, it was part of their rules to come off the gas with foot hovering over the brake when going through a crossing and it's something I've always done since. Same for passing a school during the busy periods (particularly primary schools with parents parking everywhere). The simple act of hovering over the brake can put you in the mindset that someone is about to run across the road or throw a door open.

[@ericritchie6783]

Cruise control issue, perhaps using it for 30mph areas rather than longer county roads and motorways diminishes the ability to intuitively know if your going under or over 30 without looking.

[@MrKwabs-sn1lv]

My foot was covering the brake since the junction before, hence being able to stop in that time.

[@jonh6585]

Yeah in UK, in addition to risk of kid running out anytime you see one, I was taught any pedestrians obviously waiting at a controlled crossing means the lights could change soon so think about covering break clutch not accelerator

[@S4t4nk4]

Ashley i think the mini bus situation was a lot worse than just not spotting the motorcycle. At 7:34 you can see another car following the bike steering back after the junction. 😮

[@CED99]

Also the bike didn't get a lot of time to react, and given the separation zone and lack of oncoming traffic, a manoeuvre was probably the correct decision. Could they have rolled off the throttle, maybe. Should they have used the brakes and manoeuvred, given that those separation zones *tend* to be full of gravel and road debris - no

[@ottermanuk]

I agree there, any braking that close is gonna result in a slide. Biker could have maybe spotted van approaching over hedge quicker but was probably focussing on their overtake. Van F as you say they caught out the car behind too

[@TheEulerID]

I think Ashley was too tough on that motorcyclist. He was not speeding, there was very little time to react, and he would neve have been able to brake in time. Maybe establishing he'd been seen, but he was at least aware enough to avoid a collision. It was the minibus driver that deserved a very low rating. There was also a car following the biker, which you can see at the end, so presumably the minibus driver missed that too.

[@CED99]

Actually, watching it again, the biker does brake, so yeah, Ashley is definitely hard with a score of C, braking earlier and (risking) low siding isn't worth the extra internet points 😮

[@clivewilliams3661]

@@ottermanuk Agreed, but the biker had already passed the truck so should have been concentrating onthe potential next hazard.

[@Kymfre01]

I think this is the first time i have seen viewers submitting their own footage for analysis, good idea and fair comments

[@ibs5080]

At around 4:52, yes in that sort of situation I hold back from a lorry until I can fully overtake and clear all in one go. Unfortunately drivers behind me don't always understand this concept and can start thinking I'm dawdling or keeping "too much" distance to the vehicle in front. But I won't be pressured to drive alongside an HGV just to please the person behind me. In any case, once I clear the HGV I'm now at the same point behind the vehicle in front that I would have been had I taken the extra risk of driving alongside the HGV in the first place.

[@kenbrown2808]

I am giving leeway to the lorry driver, because in a situation like that, I will activate my indicator while the overtaking car is alongside, and then change behind them. and the video didn't show him starting to come over. so he may have been doing the same (or he may not have been, of course)

[@SPTSuperSprinter156]

Jonny Audi can't think further ahead than his steering wheel, this logic is lost on a lot of drivers.

[@ibs5080]

@@kenbrown2808 I did wonder about that actually and yes, I've seen lorry drivers do that on many occasions. I often wonder if they do that in order to encourage the overtaking driver to be a little more swift in their overtake so that the lorry driver doesn't lose too much momentum whilst waiting for a clear path. Also, if there is a long line of cars overtaking the lorry, to encourage the one behind the current overtaker to let the lorry out.

[@kenbrown2808]

@ibs5080 it's more in the hope that the following driver will be courteous, but yes I've also seen the indicator used to tell the person driving alongside to please get on with it.

[@chrissambrook84]

Be aware that lorry drivers will indicate when you are along side them, not wait until you get in front. I was taught to do this 15 years ago. They've most likely seen you but are doing as the way they have been taught and it's the safest way to do it. It prevents other vehicles overtaking and they are just waiting for the vehicle at the side to get past. The lorry in this clip had no intention of pulling out with the car there. He indicated at the perfect time, warning what he was going to do when that car got past, not indicating and immediately pulling out like car drivers do.

[@LeeLou1420]

You have made me a more calm driver, I drive a little Kia picanto GT, I have people cutting me up endlessly but watching your videos I've learnt to be more calm, and in turn a better driver....however, I did give somebody the finger today.

[@matt821]

Small steps 😂

[@_______-]

On a bike it's always a call whether to use speed to get ahead of the problem, or brakes to get behind it. Brake or swerve - never both.

[@David_Trowbridge]

I like this idea, I thought you were a little generous at times but hope to see more of this!

[@pompeymonkey3271]

I had a head-on collision with a car carelessly emerging from a T-junction on the left while on my bicycle over 35 years ago. Believe you me, since then I assume that EVERY vehicle approaching a junction from my left (less so for my right) will pull out in an attempt to kill me. I guess it is a form of post-traumatic stress. :(

[@RichO1701e]

Saccadic masking that's why. You need to make sure they've seen you by presenting yourself better

[@johntate5050]

That's exactly how I drive. It staggers me how the vast majority of drivers just speed past assuming nothing can or will happen. It's the same with traffic lights at crossroads. Even when my light is on green I'm looking to my left and right expecting to emergency brake because one day I'll have to. Most driver just look straight ahead and floor the throttle.

[@peaoui165]

I've done the same as the last clip before but my bollard was a lot smaller (barely tall enough to touch the rear bumper) with no reflectors on it and I didn't have rear parking sensors. Still no one else to blame

[@chrisclarke8451]

Some very generous grades being dished out here, I would consider giving out a U for “unsatisfactory “ like in A levels for a couple of these

[@kenbrown2808]

in the US grading system, anything below a C is considered unsatisfactory. E isn't used, but if it was, it would be unacceptable.

[@chrisclarke8451]

Same at GCSE level in UK, you need C or above to pass. Anything below is regarded as a fail. Allowing one of your kids to nearly get splattered in the road has to be a U

[@chrispop99]

'U' grade in GCSE is for 'Unclassified', where either the student didn't attend, failed to write anything at all, or what was written was too insignificant to be given a mark.

[@Ben31337l]

@@chrisclarke8451 I think an F.

[@musicoflloyd]

You could pick any scale you like. In this case F is the lowest possible grade. It doesn't actually equate to anything.

[@thomassmith6779]

With the last clip not only did he not look apparently he can’t hear anything either considering that beeping

[@cargy930]

You saved me posting the same!

[@problemchild1976]

Ooooh I wonder what that beeping noise is ;)

[@Tazymandius]

Just a case of going too quick to react.

[@TDGalea]

They were hardly going quick at all. Just completely deaf.

[@Tazymandius]

@@TDGalea No they weren't but neither were going smoothly. With better clutch control they could have rolled nicely up to the bollard instead of jerking towards it. The jerking gave them no time to react to the beeping of the sensor.

[@LtNoLegs]

The crossing clip I think sums up perfectly the dangers of having the massive white boxes with keep left arrows too close to where people need to stand waiting to cross. That combined with the thick pole for the first set of the lights, and then the advertising banner along the side of the railing. The distracting banners on crossing should be illegal, but I also think there should be better clearance on the keep left boxes.

[@colinjava8447]

At 8:00, that was scary, the lights were on green so on a different day he might not have reacted in time. I'd give him a B+ for those reactions and the mother a Z, cause he was only slightly over 30, he would still have to brake quickly travelling at 30.

[@ericritchie6783]

He should have been doing less than 30 on approach to the crossing not more. People should intuitively be able to feel if they're going under or over 30, or other speed increments and should refrain from doing the full 30 in built up residential areas. Sounds like there was a cruise control issue also which means he doesn't think it was important to manage and intuitively moderate his own speed, really cruise control should be for long county roads and motorways not 30mph residential areas...

[@whichwasher2007]

Think it was also good of the driver to still be looking either side of the pedestrian crossing while still on green.

[@markwright3161]

@@ericritchie6783 The speed should be judged relative the the risk, not the limit. Pedestrian waiting at a narrow crossing, you need to go slower, with even 20 mph potentially fatal if the child waited until later to go. On the other hand, the road beyond is wide, empty and with good visibility and dry weather conditions, so if there wasn't anyone at the crossing, accelerating up to 40 mph at least briefly (before the next corner/appearing hazard/change in conditions) could have been completely safe with that slight variation of conditions for the same piece of road. Long country roads still have a huge variety of constantly changing conditions that all have a completely different maximum safe speed, so an attentive driver shouldn't feel there's any use for cruise control there either.

[@ericritchie6783]

@@markwright3161 The trouble with that is in built up areas you are unlikely to maintain a 40mph speed for long, therefore accelerating up to 40 just means velocity is overcooked and will lightly just cause more congestion and break wear down flow. Approaching the next junction or obstacle faster just means less time to observe and plan on approach so less potential momentum saved in less potential instances/higher chance of needing to break to a complete stop. So it's not just about relative risk in case of a collision, it's about relative efficiency and maintaining traffic flow as well as noise and particle pollution ect. Tire noise increases a lot at higher speeds ect, breaking harder increases particle pollution and road wear, especially around junctions. If the direction of travel is leading out of a built up area, rather than into or around town, then the stretch of road present probably wouldn't represent a significant proportion of the journey ahead anyway, if it did then they wouldn't have far to go in any case. Long windy country B roads are the most dangerous statistically, to drive, walk or cycle on. The high speed limit of 60mph somewhat impedes peoples freedom to travel relatively safely over certain areas of the country by foot or bike especially.

[@markwright3161]

@@ericritchie6783 It's all dependent on the conditions, etc. 40 mph is just an example speed over the speed limit in this case. When I talk about driving to the conditions, it includes a lot more than just relative risk. I'm basing my view off 'advanced' driving techniques (I believe they should be the minimum to get a licence, hence writing 'advanced' like that), which are all about smoothness, etc, alongside maximum safe progress. I've learned them from 'Roadcraft', a book written for training emergency services as well as the civilian who wishes to be a far better than average driver. If you've got a 2 car length stretch where 40 mph would be safe in a 30 mph zone, but then there's a junction or something you'd have to slow for, accelerating up to the maximum safe speed for those conditions isn't justifiable as you'd sacrifice smoothness, etc, just like how doing the speed limit at all times it's safe isn't always best for flow, etc. I don't floor it then slam on the brakes just because I reach higher speeds than others at times. I choose when to do it to maintain smoothness, etc. If you were a passenger in my car you'd see I have often almost gone out of my way to smooth out flow at times, despite getting there 'briskly'. I enjoy driving and when I make 'significant progress' it's not about getting anywhere quicker, it's about maximising my focus on it. If I try to drive slowly, I find myself getting distracted as there's not enough to stimulate my brain. You assess everything then have a break until you need to assess anything again, or everything is just approaching so slowly that the observations are boring. That's maybe not the best explanation, but basically I end up less attentive when going slower, but not by choice. You can still exceed the limit and not need to brake to slow and still have sufficient time to observe a source of potential hazards, etc without finding yourself in tricky situations. If you end up in tricky situations, then you're not driving to the conditions properly to begin with. The same goes for faster country roads, but in relation to the limit as much as over it. A lot of small country roads have national limits but the maximum safe speed for the conditions can often be a fraction of that. If people drove to the conditions rather than the speed limits on those roads then they wouldn't be as dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists, etc as they are. There was a time in the UK where all speed limits were abolished, not speed limits on country roads or even in town centres, etc. This means it was technically legal for anyone to do 100 mph anywhere they felt like it, although in the 1930's not many could. In the first year that this was the case, there were 800 fewer deaths on the roads. I believe the reason for this is because everyone suddenly had to pay attention to everything around them to find out how fast stuff was going. There was no longer a value they could think that car approaching shouldn't be exceeding, so they had to sit at a junction for longer to judge the speed for themselves then decide whether or not they could actually emerge in time or not. Everyone was forced to be more attentive when on the roads because there was no speed people shouldn't have been going over, so you had to always look out for someone going faster. It also meant drivers didn't have a value on their minds that was deemed safe generally to fall back on, so where the former limit would have been too fast for the conditions, they actually pay attention and judge xx mph to be too fast for themselves, and they then slow where previously they may have decided 'xx mph is legal so I'll continue at that'. This is the approach I apply when driving, and since ignoring the signs, there are situations I drive slower now than when I first started driving and thought speed limits were important. Just like when I assess when a limit may be lower than the maximum safe speed for the conditions, I will drive well below the limit when the limit far exceeds the maximum safe speed for the conditions. I live on back roads, those where cars can barely pass without touching wing mirrors, and meeting a larger vehicle requires someone to reverse. 60 mph is technically legal and yet years of driving here I've never reached 60 mph on a majority of the length of these roads. I've been able to slow for pedestrians, horses, etc, despite blind bends and crests of hills, etc. Sometimes it has been a brisk slow/stop when I've been deliberately enjoying myself, so not driving like I have a cup of water on the dash, but I've still slowed/stopped without scaring the people or animals on the road.

[@smilerbob]

The clip at 4:39, I have had many drivers behind flash me to move up as I havr left a gap between the car in front and me that a lorry can move into if needed rather than sit in a blind spot or severely reduce the gap below 2 seconds to the car in front. It baffles me the mindset on dual (or more) carriageways of “must close the gap”

[@leesullivan1916]

Love this idea.... The Grade 'D' for the blind u turn was very generous mind LOL As for the crossing parent well 😮.

[@skoldmo762]

I love your videos not blaming a specific person and take the whole situation in mind compared to every other dashcam channel. Whenever I point out things like you do to other dashcam channels. Its always "youre deluded and cant be a driver as youre judging the dashcammer"

[@ibs5080]

That very last clip, reversing into the bollard. Notwithstanding the beep from the parking sensor, it always pays to check the area you are about to reverse into whilst driving forwards past it. I've had instances where I was about to reverse into a parking space only to spot a shopping trolley in it, or where part of the back wall is at a different level across the same parking space. Or that the car in the space back to back with mine has a towing hook sticking out. Checking the area as I drive past it in preparation for the reverse has saved the day. Hope this doesn't sound like a load of... bollards! 😊

[@smilerbob]

Loving the new format Ashley, I’ll give you an ‘A’ for it 👍

[@MPal24]

"Priority is irrelevant if you're dead" - such a good saying

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

Very engaging and fun format, Ashley! I was trying to guess you grades, and I was on my toes when you were announcing them. I think, if you are to make it a separate series from the normal viewer mistakes, you could call it something like "Graded Viewer Mistakes" or "Rating My Viewers' Driving" to differentiate it. I'm sure you can come up with something better yourself. Thanks for the upload as always.

[@johnm5092]

Don’t agree with you on the lorry driver at 5:00. When driving a wagon, you put the indicator on for longer so that the cars behind have time to react by either overtaking, or letting you out. I know that it’s frowned upon to do a begging signal, but it’s necessary for the sake of safety. And as far as I can see, he hasn’t moved over into the viewers lane, so he knows they’re there. He’s simply putting on and letting everyone know his intentions. If anything, the beep was unnecessary. Like you said, car shouldn’t be sitting in a blind spot. The car driver knows this but does it anyway, and thinks beeping is helping the matter

[@McGubbins42]

The lorry driver seemed faultless to me. Put his indicator on to signal their intention to move, didn't move because there's a vehicle blocking the move.

[@ianmason.]

There's nothing wrong with a begging signal when used appropriately, but a lorry driver giving advance warning of their intended course of action is not a begging signal. Giving *_advance warning_* of your intended course of action is precisely what signals are for. (Can all the Audi, Prius, Tesla and Merc drivers who live me please take note: *_advance_* warning, not " _I have started my manoeuvre_ ".

[@ianmason.]

The first clip: A 'C" for the motorcyclist is a bit generous I think. By my calculations he was doing 86 mph in a 60 limit; in my book that would be an 'F' for the speed alone.

[@rickkybobby8118]

They may not be up rn but ive seen 50 signs on that bit of road due to poor road surface

[@ianmason.]

@@rickkybobby8118 I was just judging it as a national speed limit road from the type of road and not from any particular local knowledge.

[@billyharper4864]

Being a biker yourself I think you have given the biker more credence than they deserved, bikers must be reminded constantly that they are often difficult to see, and when approaching a junction to their left or right they should reduce their speed to anticipate what might happen for safety sake!

[@DeShark88]

I thought the opposite. It's far too much victim blaming. They're travelling on the roads just like everyone else, it's the silly t**ts who pull out on them that are dangerous. What do you expect the bikers to do? Travel down dual carriageways at 30mph? They'd get read ended, and someone will still pull out on them with 0.05 seconds notice.

[@rickkybobby8118]

Yeah i know that bit of road and the biker, like all speedy motorists, was accelerating hard (above the limit) to overtake up the hill before the road merges back into one lane and theres more cameras

[@johntate5050]

@@DeShark88 I'm a biker and a car driver. I'd have suspected that van was going to pull out. Defensive riding is paramount. If you know there are (quote) 'silly t**ts' out there, you're a fool if you don't ride defensively.

[@DeShark88]

@@johntate5050 I don't think the biker was unprepared for the van pulling out, he/she handled it quite nicely. My complaint was the criticism levelled on the biker is not aligned with the blame. Obviously bikers need to take more care and ride defensively (the alternative is death after all), but I feel like a cyclist going down a road fast who gets pulled out on is usually given a pass and the driver is heavily criticised for not looking, whereas a biker is usually called an idiot and blamed for any near miss.

[@alyx6427]

@@DeShark88they need to not be speeding especially near junctions

[@Hobnobrob10]

What do you have to do to score an F?! That parent...

[@ibs5080]

At around 8:20 where the viewer was doing 33 mph in a 30 mph limit. I think we can safely say many of us are occasionally guilty of this. It would be interesting to know what the overall stopping distance is at 33 mph compared to 30 mph. And it's as well to remember that overall stopping distances go up exponentially and not linearly.

[@climatechangedoesntbargain9140]

surely it's not linearly, but I doubt it's exponentially correlating with speed

[@fetzie23]

It adds approximately a car length, or about 4m.

[@JulianShagworthy]

If it helps, whilst increasing from 30 to 33 mph equates to a 10% increase in speed, it also equates to a 21% increase in kinetic energy. Based on the formula used by the DVSA, stopping distance at 30 mph is 22.506 m, stopping distance at 33 mph is 26.2 m and, for the hypothetical situation, stopping distance at 35 mph is 28.806 m. Hope this helps!

[@drmal]

​@@fetzie23 Yes, it adds about 3.7 metres to the stopping distance (assuming dry road, good tyres, not driving impaired...)

[@DarrellThompson47]

I think the fact that the driver was paying attention and reacted very quickly is more important than being 3 mph over the limit.

[@AndrewSmart32]

This is the first time I'm seeing one of your videos, it's a very interesting way of looking at dash cam footage that isn't just anxiety inducing compilations. I think I'll even send in some of my own personal clips, I might have some interesting stuff

[@robertdewar1752]

It's good that people swallow their pride and send in their driving fails so that Ashley can talk through them. Learning from mistakes is good.

[@kentondoeslife]

As a learner driver, this stuff helps so much! Love your channel!

[@EckyBoy007]

I love your new grading system for viewers clips it kinda takes me back to being at school :)

[@leeholden8658]

Thinking of installing a dashcam. When I was in Ormskirk the other day heading towards the church after going through the set of lights,the opposite traffic was waiting for their lights to change,but because of the queue of traffic I reduced my speed to 20 due to a road on the opposite side of the road. It was a good job,because a young lad in a karate uniform ran across the road from behind a white van. Luckily for him I was aware and slammed on my brakes,but nearly got rear ended by the following Peugeot. I got a beep for my actions too. Did the guy in the Peugeot not notice I applied the brake to save the lads life! Its still very raw in my mind and it’s the first time I went into emergency brake mode. It certainly shocked my wife who was sitting along side me.

[@justinadcock4536]

The clip in Oxford with the pedal cycle and lorry, I assume the lorry driver was confused as all traffic that isn’t a bus or taxi or bike must do a u turn at the part of the road at 3:58 with a sign in the traffic island displaying this manoeuvre (if the clip is filmed between 7:30am and 6:30pm, when the bus gates operates). I believe this is what would’ve caused the lorry drivers slightly bizarre actions, even if he did drive through the bus gate first and do it at the wrong place. If anyone wants to Google streetview at the signs, the bus gate is just west of the Queens Street Bus stops in Oxford.

[@andyalder7910]

Google Maps sent me through that bus gate so I got fined.

[@greenysmoto]

6:46 Im happy with a "C" I was stuck behind that tractor for a wail and not having the power to over take so i did it on a down hill for a bit of help then i realised their was a junction. i was going to slow down but the back car was right up be back end. 100% me being inpatient after waiting to over take.

[@hausmaster9801]

LOVE the new rating system you’re using I use this myself daily and a A* is very tough to get on my scale

[@SimonHume81]

6:14 I've done that, watching traffic for a gap, someone finally slowed so pulled out then realised they were slowing for a red light. I even thanked the driver as I pulled out! 🤣🤣

[@ibs5080]

That very first clip with the emerge. Some junctions like this have the centre section as a merge / acceleration lane to assist with the emerge. Indeed, in Canada and the USA , such a setup is even more common. In this video, the centre section is all cross hatching and I wonder whether a centre merge lane would have served better and safer. Of course it also relies on drivers understanding such as setup.

[@mandolinic]

The set up you mention is clearly described in the HWC. But there are some junctions which really need traffic lights!

[@AtomixKingg]

A centre lane would allow traffic to go through the junction quicker as you only have to consider traffic from one direction at a time instead of both, however I disagree it makes it safer. It begins to complicate an already simple process that just takes time (and people will try to push the limits of the lane). Not to mention, if I remember correctly - aren't those centre lanes named something like a "death lane" since traffic from both directions can use it? I can't find anything on google about it but I've definitely read something like it from an American.

[@PedroConejo1939]

Common in Spain too. I've tried sitting on the hatching here but drivers in the target lane panic, so I've stopped doing it. Now I turn left to turn right at this sort of junction, where it's possible, of course.

[@rickkybobby8118]

Speedsters would just use the turning right lane and the emerge lane to overtake earlier and i think itd be more dangerous

[@aljowen]

With that last clip its entirely possible that the bollard could not actually be seen from where the driver was sat since it is quite a low bollard. So it was probably a very easy mistake to make, but the sensors should have given them pause.

[@rebeccaconlon9743]

1:58 yeah, it interesting how the behaviour is different to what I would have done, check the next lane over and move across, as you can't expect others to plan ahead for you

[@cathallynch1]

You were generous with that last clip. They should have seen the post when first reversing and even the parking sensors warned them the second time.

[@iallso1]

Many intersections in NZ similar to the one in the first clip have a turning lane in the centre where the flush medium is here. This acts as a turning box for those vehicles turning in to the side road, but also enables vehicles exiting to get to the centre when the flow from the right permits before merging with the traffic coming from the left when it is safe to do so.

[@paulcollyer801]

Loving this format. Keep it going. The last clip; there’s reversing sensors that activate…. Darn it how can you ignore those.

[@Asto508]

This is really a great series with the concept of rating everyone involved. Too many cammers nowadays that are often part of the problem themselves. Keep on doing these. 👍 That being said, I'm surprised about the Jaguar driver in the last clip. They can turn that car on the spot with some patience, yet he want to occupy the space of the cammer instead. On the other hand, you know this type.

[@ollieb81]

7:24 Spot on. Too many people have the “I’m going to carry on, because I’m in the right attitude” it blows my mind.

[@MrLense]

The last clip is why I get kind of anxious driving a car without sensors. Sometimes, rocks, bollards and low walls just can't be seen

[@ArminGrewe]

But that car had sensors, yet hit the bollard?

[@jamesphillips2285]

I have been considering an after market backup camera in our car without backing sensors. Not sure where to mount the display (sold separately) though.

[@palermothegoalgod-wd2wp]

You are joking right?? You should drive at a speed that allows you to make a decision to brake or avoid something in the road...as for small walls smh

[@radishpea6615]

1:58, did the ford in lane 2 try to help or did they move to lane 3 to overtake the car in lane 2?

[@TheDantheman12121]

6:24 I did similar before. It was a couple things that just threw me off. When I come to the crossing the light was green but someone was crossing so I stop to wait and I just go when they have crossed but the light had turned red.

[@1988dgs]

The lorry put its indicator on but I didn’t see it move (using tablet so possibly not the clearest picture) was it not a notify I want to move next signal

[@SuperVitz]

Nice new format. I just ordered a new Viofo dashcam with your promo, thanks! Time to retire my first dashcam which I got 8 years ago!

[@ashley_neal]

Thanks for your support!

[@leenevin8451]

2:34 a quick beep will communicate an F and enable self-improvement

[@trick700]

I like this format

[@TheKruxed]

4:52 I'm confused, what exactly has the LGV done other than put their indicator on? thats exactly what they should be doing and at no point did they move

[@davebadger100]

Me too. Truck didn't appear to move over at all.

[@ashley_neal]

They did start to move 👍

[@TheKruxed]

@@ashley_neal Absolute nonsense, they didn't move at all

[@ashley_neal]

They moved and the signal was poorly timed

[@TheKruxed]

@@ashley_neal I've no idea what you're looking at, the truck clearly doesn't move at all and you don't have to wait for a vehicle to pass to put on your indicators. You mentioned in the next clip that the car driver didn't put their indicators on soon enough yet say the LGV driver has, its inconsistent

[@radishpea6615]

When it comes to slip lanes if the suggestion is to move to lane 2, at what point does one move to lane 2? 9:42, parking sensors are doing their job

[@sarac.3259]

Don't wish to be rude, but if you need to ask this question, you need a couple of lessons on motorways. I didn't get a car til a couple of years after passing my test, so I had three or four refresher lessons. Then I took myself down the nearest motorway a few times on Sunday mornings, til I was confident with that sort of speed and joining, overtaking etc.

[@radishpea6615]

@@sarac.3259 I may need lessons but you forget, Ashley posts videos for learning and neither you or Ashley have advised at what point one should move over. How are inexperienced drivers to learn? By me posting the question it allowed for an answer for others to learn, you reply has helped no one! Have a crack yourself and answer the question.

[@stevesmith7530]

One of the big problems with roads such as the first clip is that sometimes a degree of assertive driving is necessary. There is often, but wrongly, an attitude sometimes of "they are travelling too fast, so I shall make them slow anyway". 9:44 without looking, or listening. So, as an old fart..... Where we only had A-E C was "average" centre of the bell curve, and considered a pass. What is average/pass in your grading?

[@bikerintheblood]

Thanks for posting these clips! The one of the motorcyclists where a van/mini bus pulls out is really common. Despite what people are taught, there were clear road markings stating SLOW when approaching the junction. The rider doesn’t slow down or cover his brake. He actually got on his horn before reaching for the brake. It seems as the message of warning triangles and road markings has been lost. It’s not riding defensively but actually very dangerously asserting your right of way in a lose lose situation.

[@lloydnye343]

On the second clip, the black car in lane 2 does a common bad habit seen a lot. From 1:13 to 1:35 they travel the same speed as the camera car. Then, when the junction appears, they accelerate into the space in front, closing the gap for the camera car. I think this is something people do subconsciously to prevent people pulling out in front of them. Although they move right to give space later, they shouldn't get an A here.

[@insanephantom6293]

That's my clip and seems like a very good point I didn't notice when sending in but may have subconsciously noticed at the time of driving. I may have been aware of that car sitting just behind me in lane 2 for some time without overtaking me, and when the car emerging from the slip road first comes into view I conclude that the car following in lane 2 is still there and therefore not free to move into to help the emerge. I didn't see them move into lane 3 until reviewing the footage (which was a mistake). Instead I fixated on the emerging car and was waiting for some positive action from them (either speeding up or slowing down are both OK)

[@MattJones04]

Surely the taxi at 6:30 gets an E for parking on double yellows right near the end of the junction.

[@CBikeLondon]

Thanks for the video. @8:05 the driver should have spotted the kid's balance bike on the central reservation and foreseen this possibility. They admit being a 'little' over, as in 33 in a 30, but this is a situation where I would come right down to 20 or less as I proceed past those lights. Just not worth it.

[@Mango0fDoom]

With signs of pedestrians approaching including a visible child, and also the bike wheels visible about a second and a half before I would be lifting off the throttle in that situation to bring the speed down until visible confirmation the pedestrians had stopped and were aware. The railings of the crossing do obscure the hazard somewhat, but that's even more grounds for caution compared to a more open crossing where easier to establish if the pedestrian is aware.

[@Streets4People]

4:10 shows how it can be really difficult managing other people’s driving as a cyclist. If I was in a car in that situ I’d have hung back but often you feel pressured as a cyclist to keep moving so perhaps forced him more to make a move

[@DavidNewmanDr]

Any cyclist who knows the bus gate on Oxford High Street will move to the left to pass to the left of the island when the lorry has to go right. Then the motorcyclist would have had to wait. The motorcyclist shouldn't go down the cycle path, but it was trying to avoid getting fined when going through the bus gate. The way to avoid that is to avoid the High Street altogether, using either St Aldates or Merton Street.

[@ibs5080]

I'm going to bear in mind all these learning points and more on the drive back from Birmingham to Canterbury tomorrow! It's going to be a case of "What would Ashley do?" for the entire journey.

[@drmal]

At the ring road in Canterbury, he'd probably grind to a halt!

[@ibs5080]

@@drmal You obviously know it. I try to avoid it at rush hour and use the bypass, then turn around at Bridge to go home at that end of the city.

[@drmal]

@@ibs5080 We lived in South Canterbury for over twenty years until moving to Scotland. I used to hate it if I ever had to drive down Broad Street and Military Road. The Edinburgh bypass can get as bad as the Canterbury ring-road!

[@ibs5080]

@@drmal Oh goodness what a small world. I am in South Canterbury myself! And I know Broad Street and Military Rd very well. As you may know, in decades gone by, there used to be several so called rat runs through the city but now all closed off so that residents can understandably have a quieter life.

[@lindsey6421]

6:20 this happened to me as a pedestrian at a crossing, except I was on the side closest to the vehicle but I could see her just looking at the traffic coming the opposite way. Thankfully I’m doing lessons so I’ve become more aware, otherwise I would’ve most likely began walking out without paying much attention and assuming cars will stop at the red light. She appeared to remain completely oblivious.

[@unsafevelocities5687]

7:26 I completely disagree if you are suggesting the rider should have slowed down there. There was simply no time by that stage. I'd have been flooring it (despite that being a glacially slow motorcycle) to ensure I got ahead of the van. No point slowing down if that's going to place you on the same piece of tarmac at the same time as the van. The portrait format hides how long the van's roof was visible on approach. If the van could be seen longer than we can and the rider didn't slow, that's their mistake.

[@FFVoyager]

9:55. Had the viewer parked properly - by turning and parking in the direction they had to leave - earlier they could have avoided it entirely. Think about your 'escape route' when you park.

[@jw191]

I think you’re generous on some of these. You can’t get a C for driving through a red light.

[@PovilasPanavas]

i mean... if no one was hurt, and no one was blocked, and no one else there... is it really a big deal? I myself have went on a red multiple times... it's night, there's no cars or anyone... you look at all the traffic lights, and all of them green, except one just in front of you, and you make a mistake... somehow brains fixates on all the next green traffic lights you can see, and no cars being around, you don't realise until too late or a passenger pointed out it once. Plus maybe tired as it's night. Driving on Red on purpose would be very different, or driving on Red when there's someone you block/cut off. The act itself of driving on red doesn't put anyone on danger if there's no one to be hurt by that. Again, in no way i'm saying driving on Red is allowed, but that circumstances define if it was just an honest mistake and no way to hurt anyone, or it was dangerous (in this case, no one to block/cut off, speed is low so can stop anytime)

[@chrisclarke8451]

I was thinking that, that’s pretty much a pass grade lol

[@garyphisher7375]

Only an E for the minibus that pulled out on the biker! That was a straight F - incredibly dangerous.

[@1over137]

5:06. been there on a motor bike. Exactly the same type of lorry. I did have room to completely pass, but I was only half way when the truck indicated and started moving. I clicked the bike down 2 gears, floored and moved right out to the white line to slip their the gap as it closed. Plenty of room to spare. Probably scared the shit out of the truck driver, but I was waiting for it to happen.

[@kiradotee]

9:39 who in the world carries on going when a sudden beeping in the car occurs? Totally viewer's fault.

[@kenbrown2808]

I wonder if the sensor was slow in picking up the bollard, and the driver was used to using the sensor instead of the mirrors.

[@frafraplanner9277]

Maybe he's used to driving in parking garages, where the sensors go off constantly, even when you're not going to hit anything

[@joshuahelfferich]

Hey Ashley, regarding the video that starts at 1:15. I'm from the Netherlands so maybe I look at the problem from a different point of view. What are the rules for merging onto the dual carriageway in the UK? Over here the merging lanes are a bit longer and the person merging has to give right of way to traffic that is already on the dual carriageway. Therefore I think that the merger should've accelerated a bit more to match speed with the other traffic which would've avoided the problem altogether.

[@rickkybobby8118]

They did pull out slow but i think theres been recent 50 signs up on that bit of road because of the poor surface.

[@jonh6585]

yeah I thought it was a bit unfair on that one, maybe viewer C+, merging C. It is on the merging vehicle to do so safely while the one on the carriageway has priority (Obviously having priority doesn't matter if your dead applies). Therefore it should have been on the joining traffic to adjust speed first while the one on the carriageway has to wait and confirm they are not doing that before acting themselves.

[@Artorias6ix9ine]

Caught this video straight away keep the great content coming

[@tamsinsayers1316]

I'm a new driver and use my inner Ashley when in doubt. I love gettinglittle waves from lorry drivers when I make their maneuvers easier..

[@BRMdrivingschool]

Wonder what grade you would give Jeremy Vine on his cycling videos?

[@pelicanofpunishment6]

Mostly Es and Fs. The man creates issues that could be avoided.

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

​@@pelicanofpunishment6 You've hit the nail on the head there.

[@cargy930]

I think "U" should be reserved for him alone. Preferably preceded by an "F"!

[@Bikeops2021]

Mobile phone taking priority over her children, unbelievable!

[@ganrimmonim]

The horse one, when I could still drive, I don't think I'd have spotted that it was s horse and not just a pedestrian given the conditions. Well done to your viewer.

[@padfootspack]

Same here, but I would have slowed down regardless of if I thought it was a pedestrian, a horse, or a cyclist. Either way, it was guaranteed to be something more vunerable than me given it's size so I would be wanting to pass slowly.

[@Rroff2]

I suspect they probably had a lot more reflected light to deal with than the footage even portrays making visibility even worse than what we see in this instance - but as above I'd have slowed down and been more wary once I realised something was there whatever it was - however IMO they were probably right to maintain speed and clear quickly by the point they realised.

[@MitchellKJones]

Been watching your videos for years Ashley! ❤ First time I've noticed a clip from Donny at 5:21 Yeah there's a load of people like this, however it's the extremely impatient one's who start weaving in and out of lanes every few seconds that truly annoy me. Every lane change adds an element of risk to the situation, not to mention the increased speed already, and I bet they are not fully aware of their surroundings either. It doesn't help them either, as they'll either get caught at a set of lights or simply reach the pack of queueing cars up ahead a little faster.

[@ShedTV]

4:39 It’s hard to tell if the lorry had already started coming across, if he had then I absolutely would lean on the horn. He could, however, have been aware of the cammer and was simply indicating to show his intention to move across when it was clear. I know this will annoy the 'don't indicate until there's actually room to move brigade', but using the horn every time some puts an indicator on in case they drive into you will just trigger people. And no, I'm not a lorry driver!

[@chrissambrook84]

Lorry drivers are actually taught to indicate with the car at the side of them in this scenario. I passed 15 years ago and was taught just like this. Ashley is wrong here.

[@ibs5080]

At 6:38, be aware that in a manouvre like that, you are likely in tbe driver's blind spot. So unless they do an over the shoulder check, they will not see you. And being a taxi, plus parked awkwardly, there's a good chance they may indeed move off. A brief sound of tve horn by the cam car as it came up to the taxi might have been in order

[@MozartMetalHead]

3:10 As a regular cyclist in Oxford, which is where this clip is, the motorcyclists and e-bike riders are terrible. Only yesterday I had a near miss with one overtaking a van and a rediculous speed.

[@itstaegantime6330]

I have to disagree with 4:55.. Lorry had obviously seen the car and didn't start to move because of it, it's common practice to indicate when vehicles are still alongside before clearing with a gap behind them when there is risk other cars will fill the gap before the cars ahead clear, so that the vehicles behind have the prior warning to preserve it and allow the lorry to go. The car pressed the horn for no reason whatsoever. Lorry gets A for good planning and no faults on their part, car gets an E for inappropriate use of horn.

[@richH1625]

7:57 Does the viofo have a choice of resolution for storing the video? It doesn't feel like the wet windscreen causing the blurred numberplate.

[@Tillyard86]

What are parking sensors for if you’re just going to ignore them?

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

The cammer in the first clip has the exact same dashcam as me front and rear facing. I've always wondered what the footage would look like on KZbin in case I need to send in clips. Great quality to be honest.

[@stuartwilson5772]

The child on the crossing was just terrifying. So many serious incidents have multiple elements that frequently add up to tragedy. A few mph too fast. A few seconds of distraction. A momentary lapse of concentration. There goes probably almost all of us sometimes if we’re being honest with ourselves.

[@sw01ller]

2:25 im surprised there was no altercation being as that was the roughest part of Chester. well known for psycos there! maybe its why nobody reacted actually.

[@ibs5080]

At 6:00 I do often wonder the pressure that delivery drivers are under. I mean, its great as a consumer to be able to enjoy next day delivery etc but i hsve to wonder how that translates to the way delivery drivers drive. White van man and all that.

[@sarac.3259]

Totally agree - I assume that skip lorries, scaffolding lorries, certain very popular mini-cab cars (Avensis), will be in a hurry but also, potentially, (on local roads) looking for an address. Plus many apparently have pay-as-you-go indicators which they avoid using.

[@JustCallMeHorse]

What I hate is when you get them drivers who come down the slip road, You slow down a little to let them in and they slow down matching your speed and both of us have to brake hard... Don't understand why they do that when they are 3 car lengths ahead of you while emerging onto the motorway.