Beeline Moto - Smart yet Simple Motorcycle Navigation - Full Review

I'm a fan of map-based navigation systems, so could the Beeline Moto convince me to use turn by turn instructions? It uses the GPS feed from your mobile phone and stores the route on the Beeline. Without the need for a power-hungry phone display, you get much much longer usage time than with a traditional navigation app. It's also small, discreet, and easy to mount. Here's how I got on...
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[@delwilliams9042]

I managed to use mine a few times before the lockdown. I really rate it. Simple, easy to use and no bloody big sat nav screen. Battery lasts about 4 days and really quick to charge back up. It's an affordable, unobtrusive system and perfect for bikes. Great review by the way 👍

[@mancavemoto]

Cheers Del, and thanks for the feedback

[@andrewd7586]

I’m in Australia & I bought one some 6 months ago & its EXACTLY what I wanted! The last thing I want is Siri in my ear!!!🤬🤣 Best part is once your destination is added, even if you lose internet/Bluetooth it still works! Great here in Oz👍🏼😎

[@mancavemoto]

Yes thats a good point

[@stevenhill6214]

The key word here is.....unobtrusive, what a nice compact piece of kit. Well demonstrated Tony.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks, yes its ideal for people who don't have a lot of space, or who don't want to clutter up their bars

[@davideccles1617]

Hi Tony great review once again, I bought one its excellent when you get used to it, simplicity is the key to life as nothing seems to be simple anymore. Have a great weekend.

[@bbstriker]

Thanks for the great review. Voice prompts is a software change on the phone app - no change to the unit itself. It's the phone's GPS reception and Bluetooth that the Beeline unit uses. The Beeline unit on the handlebar is merely a remote screen for the software. The lack of voice prompts is an amazing omission- it's not difficult or complicated to implement and would have zero impact on the unit that sits on the bike. I would buy the unit in an instant if it had voice prompts. On a wet windy ride, I really do not want to try and read a wet beeline unit direction through my wet visor- that would be a danger to all.

[@zipper978]

but then you wouldnt be able to listen to music like on a Sena or Cardo

[@hakimelie1]

Great review! 100% accurate with my experience using the beeline moto. I opted to use the ram mount that I made from the supplied mount. Voice control would make this optimal. At first I did find a slight learning curve adapting to the beeline. Definitely a couple rides will make the rider more aware of how the device works. Overall, love this video.

[@mancavemoto]

Yep it definitely takes a little bit of adjustment

[@pedlpower]

I love riding during this Coronavirus stuff! No traffic! The ride in to work is great.I just wish the weather was better here in NJ, US.

[@mancavemoto]

We've finally had restrictions eased here in the UK this weel which allows recreational riding.

[@Wolfgamer-dn3xk]

This looks like the sort of thing I've been after, nice and simple. Your going to look at a map route first anyway , so with that in mind touring about the UK should be easier.

[@mancavemoto]

Indeed. I was hoping to do a long ride to show its full practicality, but the lockdown put an end to that!

[@boomer2095]

There are a lot of good comments being shared that should help people understand. The first thing I want to mention is I have gotten lost riding, and I had my phone, but even with a good cellphone signal the two programs I see (waze & google maps) froze up and kept searching (leaving me looking like an idiot on my bike in 100 degree swearing my behind off while staring at my phone. The Beeline works perfect for getting me back on track. My only wish is that it has a great clock feature that I wish you could leave on if you didn’t need to use the beeline that particular day, but it goes back to direction mode after about 20 min, but it is one really built GPS and easy to use 😎👍

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated

[@JonnoDoesStuff]

Really like mine. I also ride a bicycle and Beeline Moto works on both bikes so think it's pretty good value for money. Additionally they're a small British company who are doing interesting things with sat nav so I don't mind paying a bit more. I've used a phone for my GPS and always found it a bit obtrusive, clunky, and a killer on battery life. There's also the worry that someone will snatch it (joys of London living). Personally I'm all about the simplicity and neatness of the Beeline. I'm not fussed with turn-by-turn voice prompts, enjoy using the compass mode to just pootle about. The only thing I'd like to see would be speed camera warnings.

[@mancavemoto]

Yes thats what its all about. Some people are getting a bit 'heated' over it in the comments. For me its not a replacement for a map based GPS for serious touring etc, but as a non obtrusive device that can be called on for simple directions when needed its a brilliat piece of kit

[@BreezyRider66]

What does it do if for whatever reason you miss a turn? Assume it's a rechargeable device, what's the battery life? Great video, this is now on the list of possibilities for me...

[@mancavemoto]

If you miss a turning it just reroutes you. Yes rechargeable and about 30 hours from a full charge.

[@sqward]

I've just looked up the price. It's in the same ballpark as fully fledged stand-alone units. I'd consider it if it was sub 100 quid... But 200 is just too much for something that's just an app on your phone with tiny wireless screen to complement it. The idea is good. Just too pricey.

[@mancavemoto]

Its a point that a few people have raised. I didn't think £150 was too bad for a system that has all you need to mount it and get going. Plus its water and shock proof. You'd struggle to find a stand alone unit that does all that at the same price point. But I do take your point.

[@fs5866]

For what it is,I think the price is not worth it,you can buy a fully fledged decent smartphone for that price so nop

[@Frightningman]

My Garmin Zumo cost over £400 5 years ago [don't know how much they are now] and it was the cheapest in the Garmin range, I should imagine that the TomTom units are a similar price to Garmin. Which fully fledged stand alone unit can you get for £150?

[@sqward]

@@Frightningman I'm saying it's in the same ballpark. And it's £200 on manufacturer website. It's just too much for what it is (basically a smartphone app and a tiny screen). One can just as well use their smartphone directly. EDIT: TomTom Motorcycle Sat Nav Rider 50 is £276 on Amazon with options to get it for ~£200 from 3rd party sellers.

[@Frightningman]

​@@sqward I was genuinely asking if you knew of a stand alone device for the same price as this - for someone else, I'm happy with the Garmin. The cheapest option on the website is £149 with free shipping, I've just looked. The TomTom rider 50 is £270 on Amazon with used ones from £208. Yes, I agree - you could use a smartphone but I thought you knew of a full featured unit for £150 and I was interested.

[@funguseater40]

I prefer my method. Set google maps on my phone to avoid motorways and tolls etc, put phone in pocket. I use an Mpow bluetooth headset from Amazon (£11.99) in one ear, and just listen to "Gertrude" (my name for the voice). Works brilliantly. No need to worry about waterproof issues. Battery lasts most of the day using voice only and you can fully concentrate on the road ahead. I'd soon get fed up with looking at an arrow for half the ride. Take in the scenery instead! Good review even so 👍

[@mancavemoto]

Yep, this is just a different option, its not going to work for everyone. Thanks

[@stephenphillip5656]

A good review which reinforces my decision to invest in one. I met up with a rider who had a Beeline (I'd never heard or seen one before) & I've got one on order now. I'd been considering a dedicated sat-nav for my bike but somehow £300+ for something I'd use occasionally didn't seem worthwhile. I've just got back from a week away in the Cotswolds & I could've used a sat-nav then. Coming back & avoiding M-ways I resorted to written directions on the tank but the Beeline would've been v useful. I await its arrival.....

[@WheelieGoodTV]

Nicely produced video. I really don’t understand why anyone would choose this over using their iPhone though.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks, thats one of the points I was trying to cover in the video.

[@barnbersonol]

On a retro bike like mine a 5" screen is brash and gaudy.

[@davidaldis8242]

I've got one, but haven't really had a chance to use it yet. One huge improvement would be if it had options for fastest route, shortest route and scenic route. I've put a comment in to the Beeline team (along with speed camera warnings!), so maybe it will come later.

[@mancavemoto]

Good idea

[@tinks43]

You certainly know how to edit well 👌🏻 Looks handy if you don’t have anything.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks Buddy

[@owenradwell9011]

Thanks for a very professional review Tony. As someone looking for a motorcycle sat nav device and starting from zero including no telecom's this device seems quite tempting. I think full size sat nav and phone mounts look so out of place on retro style bikes. I see it has been addressed a couple of times in the comments but my biggest concern is the drain on the phone driving the device.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks for that. Because the phone is on standby and not using the screen the battery lasts considerably longer than it would with a traditional nav app

[@taylormitchell2119]

@@mancavemoto starting at 100%, how long do you think you could have a route going before you're at half charge?

[@mancavemoto]

@@taylormitchell2119 I presume you are referring to the phone and not the device? Hours and hours, because all the device is doing is using the bluetooth and gps connections. Once the route is planned and started it doesn't need data either.

[@RickLincoln]

None of these GPS units are perfect, but I use Sygic GPS. It's a phone app that does give turn by turn prompts through my phone/helmet comm system. If I had to look at a device all of the time, it would be hazardous. One of the things with Sygic that I just love is that when I'm in the mountains riding the twisties, I can glance over at my phone to see how tight the upcoming turns are. It's pretty cool, but, it's designed as a general GPS system, not specifically for motorcycles.

[@gastramp]

Thanks. I've seen the ads....wasn't convinced. It does sound better idea with your explanation.... I use my phone as a sat nav but visual only ( lack of voice prompts as no comms ) so no difference for me.

[@mancavemoto]

Same here, until i tried it.

[@MattSwain1]

Nice. I like the idea of this. I’ve got a phone mount but always fear I’m one pothole away from losing it. If I go out on a ride round the Yorkshire Dales I just need to know where the main turns are so this would do the job. I don’t need audio prompts because an occasional glance at my bars is no big deal. You’re much more likely to get fixated on a device with a big, pretty map I’d say. Think I’ll wait until the current crisis is over but might well buy one 👍

[@mancavemoto]

I didn't think i'd get on with one, until I tried it. Its a neat little gizmo.

[@robinwatford]

I've been using one on my Speed Twin for a few days. I like how discrete it is, I only need to glance and am unlikely to be distracted by a large colourful screen. Much cheaper (although less flexible) than dedicated Sat Nav's, and after engine vibes killed my iPhone camera twice, a good option for me.

[@mancavemoto]

Yep, its not neccesarily a replacement for a full on sat nav, but it'll be all that a lot of people will want/need.

[@Garagecouchofjohnnyyz]

I killed two I phone 11 with vibration when mounted to mc. Was wondering if others had same issue.

[@robinwatford]

@@Garagecouchofjohnnyyz Yes, killed two iPhone XR cameras. Both phones replaced by Apple and that's when I realised it was due to bike vibes. Kind of annoyed that Quadlock want £15 for a vibe damper, but I wouldn't trust mounting a pricey phone on a bike again now. Hence the Beeline!

[@neilfbu]

Haha, I had to chuckle since I was out yesterday evening riding the same roads as you, on my Speed Triple with the Beeline turned on. I backed this project from the start and so got a couple of units much cheaper than their current price. I wanted a nav device on the Speedy but didn’t want to use my Garmin purely because of the physical size of it and the mount. I wanted something totally unobtrusive and the Beeline fitted the bill. I totally agree with everything you’ve said in your review. As for the lack of voice prompts, I’ve not used them on my Garmin for years as I got fed up with the incessant prompts through my headset. Once you tune in to visual prompts, you take in the info in a fraction of a second with no problem. The Beeline display is clear in all weather conditions and extremely easy to read. A great little unit and well worth having. Yes, maybe it is a little more expensive than I thought it would be but still far less than a Garmin/Tomtom and so much more versatile than a phone (I’ve been in many far-off places in Europe well out of reach of a network signal.....what do the phone users do then?)

[@mancavemoto]

Nice, we've probably passed each other several times without knowing!

[@Herr_Bone]

It‘s just another display for your phone ... so no difference at all.

[@phillipjohnson5789]

What a fantastic concept, sadly let down by the price. I think I remember when this was on a crowdfunding page. Great review by the way.

[@mancavemoto]

yes it was on kickstarter i believe to get it off the ground. The biggest hurdle for people that ive seen in the comments is the price. I didn't think it was too bad as a complete 'out of the box' solution

[@phillipjohnson5789]

Views from the Man Cave as an out of the box solution I think it’s fantastic. Just a personal opinion if they could get it to work without the necessity of being connected to your phone to work then it price tag would be a lot more tempting. Either way I’m still impressed with the concept of it

[@perhaps6112]

Hi Tony, nice review, thanks for that. A couple of points occur to me. 1 Since you still have to carry your phone with you in your pocket or wherever, I don't really see how the Beeline is superior to using your phone as a nav with a charging cable from the bike. That gives a full map using Google maps or whatever mapping app is preferred, rather than just turn-by-turn, and provides voice as well if you want it via a Bluetooth helmet speaker. Also, the rather high cost of the Beeline is way more than a phone mount. 2 Using the Beeline with your phone in your pocket, although the device battery life is you say about 30 hours, your phone certainly won't be anything like that. As you know, nav apps on a phone kill the battery very quickly so don't you still need to keep your phone constantly charged whilst using the Beeline, either from the bike or a separate battery pack?

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks and good points. So, 1. I didn't say the Beeline was superior to a phone, its just different. One thing I was trying to get across in the review was that turn by turn can be just as effective as a map-based system. The lack of voice prompts is a negative, but as I mentioned a lot of people don't use comms systems. There is also starting to be some evidence particularly with the newer smartphones, that the vibration they get when mounted on a motorcycle could be damaging internal parts. I think some of the newer iPhones have had issues with the anti-vibration mechanisms? 2. This is true, but a big reason why nav apps chew the battery is because the display is constantly on, that seems to be the biggest draw on any device. The Beeline only requires the Bluetooth connection, and the phone is only utilising Bluetooth plus the GPS signal. This should give a significantly longer use time. Of course, you can always power the phone from a charging pack, or indeed as some of the new triumphs allow, you can place it under the seat to keep it charged. I had intended to go out for a day-long ride to see how long the phone lasted but wasn't able to due to the Coronavirus lockdown.

[@perhaps6112]

@@mancavemoto Thanks for the quick reply Tony Bluetooth is itself a significant battery drain on the phone battery, so even if the display is off, I'm guessing phone battery life probably won't be that great. So on any ride much longer than say an hour or so, it is very likely that phone charging on the go will be essential for using the Beeline. And once you have to do that, you may as well use the phone as a nav in the first place, and enjoy the potential additional benefits of a map and voice if you want it. However if vibes damage phones, which I hadn't heard, then that is a good reason not to use them I suppose. It is though very common to use phones as navs on bikes without problems. Apologies for being rather negative on the Beeline but I can't see much reason to prefer it over a phone as a nav, especially given the cost.

[@gbrand42]

I can ride for a full day with the Beeline and a fully charged iPhone and after 9 hr's i still had over 60% charge. The drain is significantly less than when using the phone as the navigation unit.

[@perhaps6112]

@@gbrand42 That's very useful info, thanks. Far longer phone battery life than I would have guessed. But even so I can't see any advantage of the Beeline over using a phone as a nav, on the contrary there are several negative comparisons. In my case I have a Garmin nav charged from the bike. I also carry my phone in a tank bag and it too has a charge lead off the bike. Even if I didn't have the Garmin, I'd just use my phone as nav with a secure mount, because it offers so much more features than the Beeline. Anyway thanks to Tony for the review. I had heard elsewhere of the Beeline and it was very informative to see it in action, regardless of my opinion of the device.

[@jonathanmellish4439]

Nice idea. I presume it is charged from a USB. I wonder what the battery life is like.

[@mancavemoto]

Yes it comes with a usb cable in the box. It’s approx 30 hours of use from fully charged

[@rohbaert4062]

Reminds me of the now discontinued TomTom Vio, just a bit smaller and more minimalistic. But I’m also of the opinion that it’s too expensive for basically being an external screen.

[@mancavemoto]

It is a little more than an external screen, as once the route is set it only relies on the phone for a gps signal. But the price does seem to be a common comment...

[@TheDervMan]

Great demo of what looks to be a great product. If it's OK with you I'll share it on Bristol Advanced Motorcyclists Facebook page towards the end of next week? Cheers Steve

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks and Share away Steve!

[@Ianjeffery2500]

Looks good and for some, no voice prompt is a positive. I suppose just like all mobile phones, you’re at the mercy of a decent signal.

[@mancavemoto]

All you need once the route is set is the Bluetooth connection to the phone for the gps feed. No other data required!

[@wboeren1]

Can you reverse the backlight to white with black arrow. Found it difficult to see the black backlight with white arrow while using sunglasses.

[@mancavemoto]

Not as far as im aware, but i'm just starting to make an update video on al the changes since the last one, so i'll see if its an option. I have to say though that i don't think it is?

[@Sam-on5pz]

I used to live and ride around here. The tunnel on blackely lane is always fun :)

[@mancavemoto]

Always good for a braap!

[@DLoneRanger]

The beeline does not have a sensor in it for the back light. So if you ride into a tunnel the back light will not come on. The beeline takes the lighting up time from your smart phone. ie dusk to dawn so if it’s dark outside the unit will automatically turn on its back light. When it’s day light it will turn off. All done from smart phone.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks for the info. But in reality is this a problem? Most times the tunnel will have some sort of lighting, and if not you’re not going to miss a turning in the middle of it.

[@DLoneRanger]

@@mancavemoto nope was just letting you know, as most people seem to be unaware the beeline has no darkness censor. In a long tunnel you prob wouldn’t have GPS anyway. :-) thank you.

[@mancavemoto]

👍

[@kabardinka1]

Dangerous... because it doesn't have voice directions you have to look at this little device to see where you're going. Moreover, how can it possibly give accurate directions at complex intersections where you have 3-4 streets crossing one another? Probably would be okay on a bicycle, but a disaster on a scooter or motorcycle.

[@mancavemoto]

I have to disagree. As I demonstrated in the video, it only takes a quick glance to see what the next instruction is. The directions are very accurate as you have a measured countdown to the junction/turning. Very rarely are you going to come across a scenario where turnings are so close to each other that its hard to determine. Certainly not a disaster on a motorcycle. Thats why I always road test these products for a while, as opposed to just guessing

[@alphamike1451]

Views from the Man Cave when I’m exactly in the center of the cross it say that I’m at 25 meters from it, for me it was impossibile to drive in a city. It’s ok for a bicycle because it go slower then a motorcycle

[@gestoandlane]

Im a fan of having a map based navi as well. Lane and I always need it for our motorbike travels. Not sure I could cope without because when i miss a turning 2 hrs into our detour i can look and keep going. #Gesto

[@mancavemoto]

This will still 'reroute' you if you miss a turn, or you can set it to get you back onto the original route

[@richedwards4651]

A great review as always Tony. I'm looking at going to Beeline as a way of simplified navigation. On Blood Bike duty I use the BMW connected app in turn by turn mode and find it works really well. Sometimes less is more.😊

[@mancavemoto]

Yep, if you just want straightforward directions it works a treat

[@iantitler2279]

Just bought one, likely going to use the elastic band mount, checked first you can get replacement elastic bands - and mine will come off in my pocket, same as TPMS when I'm off the bike. Will do what I need it to (ie finding a dealer for test ride on strange area) or get me home from group rideouts - and the compass mode looks interesting

[@mancavemoto]

Yes its a good solution for simple navigation. Some people are getting a bit pissy about it, making a comparison to a map based solution, but the point I was trying to make is exactly what you commented. Its easy to switch from bike to bike, and its a much lower profile. Thats good for people that don't want a massive device mounted on their classic or custom bike. It also means its quick and easy to fit and you can shove it in a pocket easily.

[@bbstriker]

I was sold right up to the part where I found out there's no voice guidance option. Seriously, on a bike, you need maximum attention to where you're heading not frequently looking down. Fir the high price tag, you would expect voice guidance option.

[@mancavemoto]

To be honest, it doesnt take any more looking down than you would do to the speedo

[@flyingpony59]

I used a smart watch. Also a handle bar phone mount it is the most inexpensive alternative

[@mancavemoto]

Nice solution. The point of the beeline however is to avoid mounting your phone on the handlebars.

[@flyingpony59]

It is nice to know that there are different options depending on your needs and budget. Nice piece, very esthetically designed. Thank you for all you do. I have watched several of your videos and I've been able to do many upgrades to my Street Cup. Cheers!

[@mancavemoto]

Exactly and thank you Andy, much appreciated.

[@michealhurley2893]

Great video mate just ordered one

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks and Enjoy!

[@antdx316]

Does the app give voice prompts on the phone? Just can't hear it because of the motorcycle?

[@mancavemoto]

No voice prompts, its just a visual marker only

[@ferdinanddekeersmaeker1686]

Hallo , Thanks for the info , only one question . If I go for a trip with someone , and the otherone was making the tour can my Beeline show me the tour that I did . Sorry for my pour spelling . Thanks already Ferdi

[@mancavemoto]

Yes, you can and now you can export your ride as a .gpx file

[@ams914]

Why does it say on their website that this is NOT suitable with motorcycles? That a legal liability thing? And how does it work on highways with exits? It just point right or left when the exit is upcoming?

[@mancavemoto]

You may have been looking at the Bicycle navigation system? It'll give you a notification of the exit approaching with a symbol and a countdown yardage.

[@ams914]

@@mancavemoto Thanks! Unfortunately they're sold out of plastic model so I'll have to spring for metal if I want a unit in time for trip. Motorcycle phone mounts destroyed my iPhone camera!

[@barnbersonol]

What about interruptions for ads?

[@neelskriek3723]

Great review - what would be a very useful modification and you may have the influence to get them to do, is for the screen to change when the speed limit change

[@mancavemoto]

Thats a great idea, sadly however I have zero influence with the manufacturer.

[@neelskriek3723]

@@mancavemoto Thanks for responding - you may have zero influence but a suggestion coming from you with a following of ±20k people will certainly carry more weight than coming from me??

[@mancavemoto]

Ha yes I suppose if you look at it like that!

[@lovingmylifeasIage6741]

Does it have a speedometer on it? I ride a chopper without a speedo at the moment.

[@mancavemoto]

I does yes, once you’ve planned a route you can press the buttons on the side for various options, one of which is the speed. But you can’t show the nav and the speed at the same time

[@lovingmylifeasIage6741]

@@mancavemoto Thank you.

[@bartonSkett]

Thanks Tony, nice review, nice product.

[@mancavemoto]

Cheers

[@BowserFilm]

What does the unit do if I don’t set a destination?

[@mancavemoto]

It does nothing, being a turn by turn system it needs a destination. If you don't want to follow a specific route you can use the compass mode, but it still needs a final destination

[@EazyDuz18]

Sorry but no voice prompts is a huge oversight and a dangerous one, no buy from me

[@Sheltemz]

cool, have just ordered one of these.

[@mancavemoto]

Excellent, enjoy!

[@julianperry5141]

Will it register km's instead of miles?

[@mancavemoto]

Yes you can select the unit of measurement

[@barnbersonol]

Does it always "up" itself if you fix it upside down?

[@bobbyblueace]

Nice review, looks like simple solution. There is a lack of real estate around the handlebars on my bike and this seems much more space efficient than a phone or sat nav. I don't suppose you tried it when wearing sunglasses or a dark tinted visor by any chance? Still clear to view?

[@mancavemoto]

It did try it with a tinted visor and had no problem seeing the display

[@bobbyblueace]

@@mancavemoto Good info. Thanks.

[@David_Keith]

How easy is it to read? I normally wear reading glasses to read but not on the bike.

[@mancavemoto]

Pretty good, the arrow is easy to read, maybe not the yardage markers?

[@David_Keith]

@@mancavemoto Thanks, that's what I was afraid of.

[@cada1para1]

Thanks for the review. Wanted to know if it was worth buying. I'm from across the pond and your driving on the left kept me on the edge of my seat, had to keep remembering they were British roads.

[@mancavemoto]

Haha i get that a lot. If you just want a simple, straighforward, compact and easy to fit solution for directions, I think its great

[@Sakura1]

Will it continue work when phone battery cuts out? Does gps need to be switched on the phone for it to work?

[@mancavemoto]

Once the route is planned, the beeline just needs a gps signal from the Phone. So if the phone battery dies it'll lose that signal

[@Sakura1]

@@mancavemoto a useful answer. Thank you. I will probably get a wahoo bolt for my bicycle as it has its own gps.

[@bens5616]

At about 2:24, you mentioned putting your phone away which means line of sight to the sky is out (I'm assumming you slotted the phone into your pocket). That means, your location is based only on cellular and/or WiFi. So if there were no cellular or WiFi connections, the only way of getting your location is to have the phone out somewhere pointing at the heavens?

[@mancavemoto]

An iphone will generally still make GPS contact when in a pocket, it doesnt always need line of sight. If that does become an issue then it defaults to 'assisted GPS' where it will ping cell towers and wifi networks. As this is the sort of device that won't be used out in the 'wild' it shouldn't be an issue. Once the route is set the Beeline only relies on the phone connection for GPS

[@huwhowells509]

Great Vid, thanks. Very odd two things I've noticed. Used Google maps on Euro tour last year, impossible to load GPX files, had to enter co ords one at a time. Beeline allows loading of GPX files which is great, downloaded app only to try out, very slick interface and stuff, but no voice backup which is desperately needed in such a small device. I really see the appeal, but it needs voice promps as well.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks for sharing, I don't know if voice prompts will come along?

[@ronaldcaldwell5692]

Will the Beeline continue to navigate if you lose cell coverage?

[@mancavemoto]

Yes, once the route is set it only needs a gps feed from the phone

[@ronaldcaldwell5692]

Thank you@@mancavemoto

[@atomik5303]

Nice video ,you're local to me as well. Ride safe

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks, cool and you'll obviously appreciate what fantastic roads we have to ride around here

[@markhenry192]

Can you use this device if you do not have a phone contract and no data? I have a pay as you go phone and rely on wifi. Forgive me I am not up to speed with tek stuff.

[@mancavemoto]

A good question Mark, in theory yes as long as you plot the route and set it up somewhere with wifi, you should be good. The device just takes a bluetooth and gps feed from the phone when in use. However i'm note sure if the re-route option would work? contact the guys at beeline, I'm sure they will be able to clarify

[@markhenry192]

@@mancavemoto Thanks for your help. I may try and contact them.

[@filmdetective]

Hey tony. Thanks a lot for the review, had been waiting for one for a long time !! Listen, what about when you’re on a highway? How can we not miss the exit? Are the three little dots on top, next to the direction dot, are they counting down the timing to turn?

[@mancavemoto]

No problem. You get a distance countdown to the exit as well as a turn off symbol on the device. The dots along the top show how far through your total journey you are.

[@alphamike1451]

But the countdown is completly off, you can use it riding in a motorway but not in a city...

[@twowheelsoneleg5672]

I like this idea very much

[@mancavemoto]

It's a nice piece of kit

[@twowheelsoneleg5672]

@@mancavemoto Watched a few more reviews and think I'll get one when the lockdown is over. Thanks for highlighting it

[@daveellsworth8553]

Hi, Great review. How does the device indicate a required lane change, say on a motorway please?

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks Dave, Theres no indication for lane selection, it will just give you a countdown in distance to the next junction

[@Kemrer]

Thank you

[@mancavemoto]

You're welcome

[@TheCodebreakerV8]

Great Video, I got a lot of helpful information out of it. But one question: Did you use the standard black plastic version (and how is the quality of that?), or did you have the version in gunmetal gray? Just would like to find if the higher price is worth paying.

[@mancavemoto]

Thanks, I have the standard version and it seems suitably robust

[@neilfoster9517]

Again great review and device but it looks like European only

[@gregswiatek515]

Thanks for the video ! Can you use route options like im google such as "avoid tolls", or "avoid highways" or choose between 2-3 different routes with similar times ? Thanks !

[@mancavemoto]

Yes you've got lots of route planning options on the app

[@chrisb5986]

Brilliant! Is it necessary to have a functioning phone while navigating? In other words, if your phone battery goes flat, does it continue navigating?

[@mancavemoto]

Although it doesn't rely on data once the route has been input, as far as i'm aware it uses the phones gps via bluetooth to determine its location. In that case when the phone dies, so do the instructions.

[@brucegroom1929]

Hi. Have I missed it - can't see how it us powered. Presumably a battery? Is it rechargeable?

[@mancavemoto]

yep, it comes with a little USB dock to charge the internal battery

[@brousseauphilippe5114]

thanks !! you decided me to buy one !! i ha to ask : have someone a coupon code that works????

[@jamesdaldry4734]

Could this be used in Europe?

[@mancavemoto]

Yes it can be used worldwide

[@jamesdaldry4734]

Thank you , and for the great review.

[@semajohn]

Nice review. Does this automatic update your route like Google maps? For example, road has been closed and finds an alternative route while on the move.

[@mancavemoto]

Yes it does, you have two options in Route mode. You can switch it to re-route, so if you miss a turn or there is a road block it will find a new route for you as you go. If you switch the re-route option off, its assumes you want to stick rigidly to the original route and will give you instructions to get back onto that route, which could involve a bit of ‘round and round’ action.

[@MatthewHilbertsBaritone]

What happens if your phone goes flat?

[@mancavemoto]

You’ll lose the gps signal, and thus the navigation

[@MatthewHilbertsBaritone]

@@mancavemoto Thought so.

[@japfourme381]

Good video mate enjoyed it!!

[@mancavemoto]

Cheers!

[@martinrollins4471]

what happens when the rechargable battery finally gives up ,and also does the app run your phone down quick .by the way great vid never seen this sat nav before .

[@mancavemoto]

Once the rechargable battery gives out, I guess thats it, But Beeline may be able to replace it? The beauty of this system is that because it doesn't need the phone screen to be on the battery life is good. The screen is the biggest battery drain on a smart phone. Once the route is planned and running, the device only needs a GPS signal from your phone

[@Ianjeffery2500]

Have you noticed any increased battery drain on your phone while using the unit?

[@mancavemoto]

Not really no, it only uses the Bluetooth for a gps signal

[@40mosher]

If it had voice prompts the display would be redundant surely?

[@mancavemoto]

Yep exactly, that’s why it didn’t bother me. People who say they wouldn’t use one because of that are missing the point of the device

[@40mosher]

Views from the Man Cave do you have any info on battery life? I assume it is in constant communication with phone for directions etc?

[@stephenadamnewman8377]

I guess the unit is battery operated, any idea how long you get from one charge ? hopefully its USB rechargeable.....! Could you advise please ? Cheers Alf ;)

[@mancavemoto]

Hi Alf, yep it’s a chargeable unit, there is a little usb ‘hub’ in the box. I’ve had it last for a day of riding with no problem.

[@Alan-ur9jo]

It's a good product but it doesn't allow for traffic issues/road closures etc.

[@mancavemoto]

Because its google maps based, it should pick up any closures that are highlighted.

[@jarnothysjt]

Hey Tony, want about the draining of your phone battery? Kind regards.

[@mancavemoto]

Its much better than using phone nav apps. What drains the battery on is having the display permanantly on, but of course you don't need to do that with this device.

[@FuzzyScaredyCat]

I think they missed a trick with the pricing on this. Sub £100 would be something people would just buy, £149 is pushing it. It'd be really useful if it had a clip on cover for the screen (a bit like the ones on camera lenses) so you could clip it on and stuff it in your pocket and not have to worry about damaging the screen. I don't want to carry a case with me, I want to pop it in a pocket and not have to worry about scratching it.

[@mancavemoto]

The price seems to be a common topic on the feedback, so it'll be interesting if they look at that (although its a big drop). The screen is toughened glass, so should be ok in your pocket. As you can imagine if they included a cap, people would be complaining that its easy to lose ;)

[@michaelhayward7572]

Call me old fashioned, but how did we all get by and around 10-15-20 years ago? Maps and road signs. I dig stuff like this for world explorers, and driving/riding thru a large unknown metropolis etc, but getting from A to B in the UK. C'mon guys whats happened?

[@mancavemoto]

I used to tape written instructions to the tank, thankfully times have moved on.

[@whatsstefon]

I use to open a road atlas, photocopy the page(s) I needed, highlighted my route that I calculated myself using a highlighter marker, folded it up and tucked it in my pocket. Gear up, gear down. Let’s go. Stop if I got lost or forgot where I needed to turn left or right. This thing seems pretty cool. Bit expensive, and yet another mount.

[@iantitler2279]

@@mancavemoto Me too, went from Brixton to Kew gardens like that

[@kf-dk5pb]

Hi thank you for the review most helpful, can I ask is the device constantly running from your phone. As I would be concerned as it wouldn’t take long for my phone become flat, and I may be better off using the phone as a sat nav as it can be charging when in use. Cheers paul

[@mancavemoto]

Once the route is set all the device takes from the phone is a gps signal. So it puts far less of a drain on the phone battery than a map based navigation app. I’ve used the beeline for most of a day with an iPhone 8 and there was charge left

[@kf-dk5pb]

@@mancavemoto thank you most helpful 👍

[@rumien1383]

Roads don’t look busy enough to be pre- lockdown ?

[@mancavemoto]

You’ve obviously not watched any of my videos before then?

[@rumien1383]

Views from the Man Cave just saying.... if I’m wrong, it’s not the first time, and certainly won’t be the last. 👍🏻 As for the sat nav. I’d stick to the Tom Tom. I’d find myself squinting at that one, and not paying attention to the road.

[@stevepowell4946]

Is the Beeline linked to your phone all of the time whilst riding.

[@mancavemoto]

By Bluetooth yes

[@robertdenton7897]

Did you try the cycle model on a motorbike, it’s substantially cheaper, or establish the difference?

[@delwilliams9042]

I think the cycle specific one has a lot slower response time and also doesn't have the same interface because cycles cant use motorways etc.

[@mancavemoto]

I didn’t try it no, the velo doesn’t seem as well suited to use on a motorbike. It mounts with a rubber strap, which doesn’t look as secure and its also not as quick and easy to remove. It’s only water resistant as opposed to waterproof. The moto has physical buttons as opposed to the touch screen on the velo, therefore more useable with gloves on. The route markers on the moto are also specific to road use including roundabout and turn off markers, these don’t feature on the cycle version. So there does appear to be quite a bit of difference for the price.

[@robertdenton7897]

Views from the Man Cave Thank you for your full explanation

[@buraqmejker]

Sure! Let's depend on our phones even more while traveling.

[@andrewd7586]

This still works even without connection once initially entering your destination! 👍🏼

[@monkeydust100]

Meh I've got a free gps app on my phone, that'll do me as I'm cheap

[@mancavemoto]

fair enough

[@TheAegisClaw]

If it was £50 maybe. But you can buy a fairly impressive Xiaomi smartphone for £100 just to use as a sat nav!

[@mancavemoto]

True, but thats not really the point of the device

[@A.J.Lawson]

Don’t know why you wouldn’t just use Waze?

[@mancavemoto]

Some people might not want to mount their phone on the bike. This has a very small footprint and provides enough information to get you to your destination

[@Johnrockerldn]

how much data etc does it use from your phone?

[@mancavemoto]

Very little, once you’ve set your route and hit go, all you need is the Bluetooth and GPS connections. At that point you no longer need data, and if you set the route whilst connected to wifi, you don’t need data at all

[@Johnrockerldn]

cool, i dont have much data etc on phone as i try to use it as little as poss.

[@frostwaffy]

Man.. it's pretty expensive , gotta pass on that one. If only the price was lower i would buy it. My monthly wage is 291.35 GBP and it goes lower and lower since my country's economy sucks.

[@Magnus-pm7ic]

No idea who would buy this. Who doesnt have a smartphone and phone holder..

[@mancavemoto]

You still need a smartphone for this. Not everyone has or wants a phone holder on the bike. This is just an alternative for those that want a very clean simple means of navigation. Thanks for watching

[@thebikerguidetofinedining3541]

To dangerous on a motorcycle. I would rather leave phone in pocket and use voice prompts from phone gps instead of keep looking down at beeline

[@mancavemoto]

I have to diasagree having used one for a while. You dont have to look down at it anymore than you would your speedo

[@thebikerguidetofinedining3541]

@@mancavemoto if I was out in the country but I would never use this in the city

[@ridingwithsam]

Quad lock case and mount for £60, then just use Google maps. Why would you spend this much on something like that!?

[@mancavemoto]

Maybe someone who doesn’t want or doesn’t have the space to mount a phone? Someone who wants just the minimum navigation aid to get them somewhere? That’s why I talk about it’s uses in the video. It’s an alternative option.

[@ridingwithsam]

@@mancavemoto just seems like an awful lot of money for very limited functionality that's all.

[@mancavemoto]

Yeah appreciate that, it seems to be a common comment.

[@prat8529]

Overpriced!!!! I won’t be buying one...though I would consider one if it was about £90....

[@giancarloandrebravoabanto7091]

not useful if it depends of phone's life

[@mancavemoto]

Once the route is planned, all it uses is the phones gps signal. The biggest drain on a phones battery is the screen, and as the beeline doesn’t require that to be on, as phone nav apps do, the battery life of the phone isn’t effected anywhere near as much

[@TDV1]

No offence but the people who say this is expensive. Are tight with money

[@joevidya]

I like the sleek design of it but It's expensive for what it does, while still requiring your phone.

[@TDV1]

@@joevidyaWell i always take my phone anyway. What about if i break down and need to call road assistance ? Or i need to call an ambulance. It's stupid not to take your phone with you, when you're out the house. And sure they might have a nice profit margin, but i would pay that anyday for the practicality that it gives. I don't need one atm, because i only ride around my area.

[@TwoWheelTom]

Nice I’m currently doing a wrecked bike rebuild on a Yamaha R6 on my channel if you get chance check it out 👍🏼

[@mancavemoto]

I'll take a look

[@TwoWheelTom]

Views from the Man Cave awesome appreciate it bud

[@dennismau9103]

I tried one with my Samsung S21 phone and the App caused it to overheat, and my phone shut down also shutting down the Beeline. It is JUNK!

[@scottboettcher]

Nah, yer phone's junk, Mate!

[@dennismau9103]

@@scottboettcher The Beeline is junk! Get a Garmin.