Weber Performer / Slow n' Sear Kettle - Correct Comparison

[@Viewtoagrill]

Slow n Sear links: Slow n Sear/Slow n Sear Kettle - amzn.to/3Uhgl4E Weber Links: Weber Kettle 22 inch with table - weberinc.sjv.io/ORdMRn Weber Kettle 22 inch Cover for table - weberinc.sjv.io/mgBy4D If you chose to use my links, thank you very much.

[@surfingonmars8979]

Another sane, clear, logical and informative video from a good guy.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Much appreciated!

[@robertcrabtree6137]

By far this is the best comparison! I also love how you did a more true comparison with the performer.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks.

[@keepingitdownwiththepashas]

Absolutely amazing review esp with the measurements and stuff. Instantly subbed! Cant belive this channel hasnt reached 1 mil yet. All the best man.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Pashas! Some people just like to hate.

[@katzsteel]

I own the exact Weber kettle. Absolutely love it. Bought it on marketplace for $100. I’m taller, so perfect height too. I’ve had the OG Weber kettle, but much prefer this. I also use a SNS in my Weber. The table of the Weber looks superior as I use it a lot!

[@Viewtoagrill]

The Weber table is no doubt the better of the two.

[@stingerdude-8]

Great comparison. I like that you pointed out the intended use of the weber model and their baskets. I was unaware until now!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Glad it was helpful! Here is a full video of the set up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXS2gGmrd7Cqodk

[@tomm9493]

This is my first time viewing your channel. Probably the most concise and honest comparison video I've ever seen. Plus, you speak well and seem like a nice person! To my mind, the Weber Performer seems to be better. I already own a Weber Kettle, but I hardly ever use it these days. I tend to go with my Masterbuilt Gravity 800 or my Camp Chef Woodwind Pro. They are just easier with the control modules and all.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Tom, I appreciate you watching.

[@markennes5208]

I have the standard Weber 22" and the SnS 22". In these reviews, nobody ever points out that the lower intake leaks air on the SnS. The blades are not correctly curved relative to the bowl. That means you can cook low and slow with all the lower intakes completely shut - because it leaks! However, I've found that after many, many cooks, grease and charcoal dust will build up in the bowl and effectively block the leaks. The blades will not scrape out all the grit because - they can't! The lower bevel blade tips do not make contact with the bowl as they should. But the gradual build-up of grit in the bowl effectively solves the leak problem. The Weber bevel blades, on the other hand, are very snug to the bowl and so there is no intake leak problem. Thanks for the review!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hello Mark, I have not had the issue with the blades not fitting correctly. When I shut down the SnS the fire goes out. Thanks for watching. I appreciate you!

[@markennes5208]

@@Viewtoagrill Yes, the fire goes out because you closed the upper damper. But the lower damper blades leak air. You can see they lift off from the bowl at the tip. It even shows it on the photo on the SnS site. Thanks again

[@Viewtoagrill]

I’m going to take a closer look at it the next time I cook on it. I still plan on doing a review. This video was strictly a comparison.

[@spokanesurvivaltrainingand5797]

Best BBQ channel for Weber's PERIOD

[@Viewtoagrill]

I agree!

[@SnSGrills]

Johnny, that was a great comparison! Love your channel man.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks!

[@rickstevens3027]

DUDE. your opening statement is so RIGHT ON!! I say this EVERY time I see a comparison video or gripe video about the weber 3 leg thing... ok, got that off my chest. now, i can watch the rest of the video...

[@Viewtoagrill]

LOL.. Thanks Rick!

[@larryburns4605]

I have a older performer 22 inch since 2006 still works great got crack in fiberglass top but not a issue . I wish they made a 26 inch performer .

[@Viewtoagrill]

I think a 26 inch performer would do well.

[@erichoehn8262]

Great detailed review! I have owned several Weber kettles in the past and have loved them. I currently own a Weber Smokey Mountain that I love as well. When it came time to replace my last kettle, I decided on an SNS Deluxe and have been thrilled with it. I use the smoke hole on its own to smoke larger cuts without a blower attached. I can keep the SNS right around 250 for several hours when I do that. Both Weber and SNS make great products.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Both are great products and I think anyone would enjoy either of them.

[@bigebarbque]

After much consideration I ended up purchasing the SnS. I've always wanted a kettle and thought I was going to buy the Weber. When I found out most people with the Weber end up buying all of the SnS accessories it made my option easier. I love that it has the smoke hole, I use that rather than the big damper down below and love that it has the slot for my temp probes. So far, I've smoked pork shoulders, brisket, ribs, and chicken but love using it for steaks. I also purchased the Cast-iron drip pan, Carbon-Steel Plancha to make philly cheese steaks, and the elevated rack for a little more space. It is my go to grill!

[@Viewtoagrill]

I’m glad you are enjoying it.

[@bigebarbque]

@@Viewtoagrill Thanks! Now I just want to build one of those tables like you have around your Weber. I watched your video on that too. Just haven’t had the time for it yet.

[@Viewtoagrill]

The table is nice!

[@KM-ex1rr]

Nicely done. No bias so viewers can choose based on their preferences.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Awesome, I was hoping the video would come across as such.

[@donnyjordan3845]

Great video! I dont run my temp wires under the lid. I simply run the wires down the vent holes in the Weber. Seems to work fine.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I have seen other folks do that as well. Take care Donny.

[@2151abell]

Great video and no bias towards the other at it SHOULD be. Straight up FACTS ! Iv really enjoyed this one Johnny.... Thank you.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks for watching

[@quailstreetcoffeeroastersm6674]

Great video Johnny, this was a very fair and unbiased comparison that leaves the viewer to make a decision based on what fits their needs & preference.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I hope so!

[@alechodgin23]

Just bought an SNS thank you so much for the video. Very detailed. Loved it.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Awesome!

[@michaelmurray5578]

I love the stability and versatility of my Weber Performer Silver! I do have a slow and sear and spin grate and I can cook anything! Weber Forever

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hey Michael. Love my weber as well!

[@michaelmurray5578]

Any chance you’ll be getting your hands on the new SNS MasterKettle? Love to see a review on that.

[@deans6571]

Talking of the holes for the thermometer probes, I always run mine through the vents in the lid!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Nice!

[@Talon6551]

Great review and comparison, but I have used Weber kettles for 40 plus years and am a loyal fan. All of the little features of the SnS are nice, but I don’t think most backyard cooks won’t use them.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I grill more than I smoke so I agree with you… but it sure is nice to have those features when you want them.

[@gymsim]

Very nice, well-done comparison of the grills. You nailed it with all the features for both of them but certain aspects you indicated stood out by far for my preferences. Mobility, sturdiness, shelf size, handles, etc. are big factors. I was considering a SNS with the rotating grill plate that the Weber lacks, but it seems like a minor advantage considering all the other positive aspects of the Weber. Thank you, Sir and happy grilling!

[@Viewtoagrill]

I don’t think you will be disappointed with either.

[@SilatShooter]

I agree with your assessment and have slow n sear with my Weber Kettle, and do have the Slow n Sear travel kettle. But the Weber 26" Kettle is a far more useful size than the 22 of either the Slow n Sear or Weber Performer. I have Slow n Sear grate and charcoal basket for my 26". I'd jump on a Slow and Sear 26" Kettle. But till then, I tell all my friends the 26" kettle is far more useful than the 22". It's my most used cooker.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I have the 26 with a slow n’ sear and cast iron grill grates. Love it!

[@mmsb13_420]

Great comparison video, Johnny! I've always grilled with propane and switched over to charcoal this year. I'm learning a lot from your channel (thank you for the effort you put into it). I purchased the Weber Performer and am really glad I did. I really like it. Here's to great grilling. Cheers! 🍔🍺

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks, you too! Take care mmsb.

[@marcoz2470]

I really tried to love my sns but will be trying to return it, I’ve had it for 2 weeks. I must have got a bad one. The nuts for the lid holder were slightly larger so you could not snug them. My lid does not sit even. The airflow/ash cleaner blades have a big gap. So cleaning the ash is horrible and when snuffing the coals it would take forever since it still had airflow. That was just my experience. The slow n sear basket is awesome though.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hello Marco, if you do return it, let me know how the customer service is.

[@alexandermayer2026]

Really thoughtful, clear comparison. My Performer, which gave up the ghost due to a grease fire, had an issue you did not cover. The paddles at the bottom that brush the ask out the bottom vents and control the airflow, got all hinged up with grease/ash. Then they bent when I tried to clear the gunk. What are these paddles like on the SnS? It is a very weak feature of the Weber. Also the two basket setup of the Weber is great for my favorite cooks - indirect. The SnS unit only provides heat on one side. I doubt if indirect on the SnS would provide balance to the heat source. Although I have always thought that build quality is not good on Weber products and is getting worse. The SnS seems even more poor. Thanks for your comparison.

[@Viewtoagrill]

The gunk will build up on the SnS as well. Next time you have an issue with the vent you can replace them, it is not a difficult task. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnSlnqmGbtekerc

[@alexandermayer2026]

@ thank you

[@randallsnider5025]

Great video. Would love to see your review of the Weber Summit Kamado

[@Viewtoagrill]

I would love to have a Weber Summit Kamado... Take care Randall.

[@Jer-Bye]

Great comparison video, Johnny! I don't have either of these grills, but instead have a STOK tower drum kettle grill. I have been cooking on this grill for years and love it. Like Weber super well made and built in U.S.A. (Anderson, SC). Like the Performer it has the center insert grate; however, the grates are of heavy Guage cast iron. Love it. It also came with a built in charcoal starter chute (direst gtill use since it centrrs coals) and also has the vent and ash dump feature. Since it is also 22" I can pretty much use any of the Weber or SNS accessories, so you video was very informative THX again 🙂👍

[@Viewtoagrill]

😊

[@-nepherim]

I also have a Stok and loved that thing, really solid and sturdy. Unfortunately they no longer seem to be making charcoal grills, and neither the Weber or SNS products seem as solidly built.

[@daviddesmond2143]

Weber has an outstanding reputation and customer service. Made of better materials and made inUSA and we should support the few USA manufactures before the Chinese buy it and we lose

[@Viewtoagrill]

Weber has an incredible customer service area.

[@Mankitchenrecipes]

This is an awesome and honest comparison video, Johnny! Thanks for all the information and time put into this!👍

[@Viewtoagrill]

Glad you liked it! Take care Kevin.

[@johnmanthey2683]

I asked you earlier about the spin grate and Slow n Sear from SNS. My spin grate does spin on my 22" Performer. The hang up with the Weber grate is the handles catching on the tabs. The SNS grate handles are on the inside of the grate while the Weber's are on the outside. The second thing I asked about was why do most people set up the Slow n Sear basket on the right. If on the left the bolts for the lid bail block lifting the grate to add charcoal. You have to off set the setup so you can lift the grate. Just thought I'd follow up with you.

[@Viewtoagrill]

The bolts the lid bail are high enough gor the grate and the SnS insert to fit easily under them and does not block me from lifting the grate to refill if necessary. To make it easier to fill the SnS basket I would have to move the lid while filling. Its not an issue at all. Hopefully I answer your question this time. I think I understand what you are asking.

[@darklordlc]

I always wanted a kettle and just as I was serious about it, the SNS came out. I ended up getting the SNS because of the design features. Specifically that the thermometer and vent are on the same side so the temperature is more accurate on the indirect side. Also, with the smoke hole port, people are able to dial in 225-250 solidly. I’ve got both cast iron and stainless drip and griddle pans and I’ve got their thermometer that I had before I got the grill. Looking forward to putting everything through its paces.

[@Viewtoagrill]

The SnS kettle does have a lot of nice features on it for sure. Take care darklord.

[@Meister1551]

I was given a barely broken in Weber Performance Deluxe last year. I say barely used because it was purchased in 2017 and maybe had 10 cooks on it by the time it was given to me. I have always preferred cooking with charcoal and this Weber helped me get my grilling chops back in gear. Love your channel.

[@Viewtoagrill]

A free Deluxe! Nice. Take care!.

[@Meister1551]

@@Viewtoagrill I live in a townhouse development and my next door neighbors purchased a single family home that had a built in grill so they gave it to me. I've cooked and smoked up some outstanding dishes and some of the ideas came from your channel.

[@johnkowalski5756]

I had a basic 22" Weber and it dod the job very well. The only problem I had was with the star shaped ash sweeper at the bottom. Apparently it is made from aluminum or some alloy. After a few years, the screw in the middle of it just rotted away and there was no way to adjust the air flow from the bottom.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Weber has a great customer support team. If it has only been a few years it still may be under warranty. Give them a call, they may send you a replacement part at no charge. You will need the ID number off the vent.

[@olyprospecting6419]

Thank you for your video! Something I've never understood about Weber Kettle is why they don't make a taller lid so one can fit things like beer can chicken.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks for watching!

[@jefff6167]

Thanks for this thorough, fair and honest comparison Johnny.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hey Jeff. Thanks for watching. Which one did you decide to get?

[@jefff6167]

@@Viewtoagrill Webber

[@Xpyburnt_ndz]

GR8 vid Johnny! I LOVE my SNS kettle but had I known how proud they are of their stuff, I would have gone with the Weber. I'm on a fixed income and SNS would not help me out with ANYTHING! I didn't know at the time when I got my kettle from them, that I could get it with the "deluxe" SNS...I found out about 2 months after I got it and they told me since it was past the 30 day of delivery, I could not exchange my regular SNS basket for the deluxe basket. Kind of soured me on them. At the time, the Weber performer you show wasn't available. I really like the removable water chamber on the deluxe along with the bottom grate to hold the charcoal so you don't have to clear out the entire bottom grate of your charcoal to clean it. I've got a metal working friend out here that is going to possibly make me a SS grate I can pop rivet to the bottom of what I have but I will still not be able to remove the water chamber. Wish I had waited and got the performer now...Thnx for the vid! ~Chris

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Chris.

[@michaelmixon2479]

I have a 22 inch Weber but what I really like about the SNS is the ash catcher. Having one with a handle is so much easier than the Weber style.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hey Michael. Not having to squeeze the handle is a plus.

[@yellowlt6]

This is a great video. I have a SNS Deluxe and a Performer Deluxe. While this model performer has more features, I also feel like the Weber is of higher build quality. But you can't go wrong with either.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks. If I had to pick on the SnS on build quality I would mention the use of steel screws that rust and I can’t prove it but the porcelain coating seems thinner.

[@timdane6132]

hows the quality of the metal, and the heat retention. heard that sns is bit thin. im glad that this video address the depts of the grill and the lid.

[@Viewtoagrill]

The SnS may be a bit thinner but not much if at all. Also, with heat retention I think it is the same. I don’t see a difference.

[@timdane6132]

@Viewtoagrill thank you, have a weber mt, but i might add one more, coz every weekend I smoke, and grill at the same time for our weekly protien, and my extra jumbo joe can't cope up with the grilling if MT is on smoke. I might conceder getting one of this since its features are design for good smoke🙂

[@Dakiniwoman]

This is an excellent comparison... I am really wanting to buy my very first grill and I think I am going for the Webber. Thanks so much.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Dakiniwoman]

@@Viewtoagrill So, of course just as I make that decision, my friend comes over and tells me I should get a propane grill ... no mess... best for a condo situation? so... now I am really mixed up.

[@Viewtoagrill]

​@@Dakiniwoman I have never lived in a condo. It may have some rules as to what kind of grill you can have. A probane grill does not have the "mess" of charcoal and ash to dispose of ... so there is that.

[@Dakiniwoman]

@@Viewtoagrill Thank you... After watching a lot of videos I decided to get the Webber Traveler propane grill as it is compact and I can put it out on my deck or fold it and bring it inside. I think using charcoal would give a great taste, but I had to make a decision and for my situation I think the propane is the best option.

[@johnmccaffery5186]

Wow, that was an excellent review! I’m in the market and I’m on the fence right now with prime day coming up and lots of discounts on the SNS. I’ll probably have to rewatch this, jGood job.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Awesome. 😎

[@DaymonQualls]

Great comparison, Johnny! I don't think a person could go wrong with either kettle but, personally, I really like the Weber.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hello Daymon. Thanks.

[@wolverinegnr]

My main reason to upgrade to a Weber performer is the wheels and stability.

[@Viewtoagrill]

They are much better. I wish SnS had put wheels on there new master kettle.

[@rickcormier9160]

Nice comparison. I found a used Weber Performer and really like its sturdiness and compact size. I do not own a SnS kettle, but know their products are well thought out and use quality stainless steel where it counts. The SnS vent design and cable port, thermometer location stand out for todays use of a kettle; very few use the two basket configuration which may limit your smoking space and requires two fires to manage. One thing I love about my Weber kettles are the numerous aftermarket accessories, like the Spider Grills and Onlyfire products to name just two. I do like that SnS is a family business dedicated to quality over Weber becoming a publicly traded company. Weber irks me in that they very often offer more options outside of the USA. A few years ago, I had a question about the SnS and the owner and designer, David Parish, answered the phone to my surprise.

[@deathheed]

Weber is no longer a publicly traded company

[@Viewtoagrill]

You can get some great deals on Facebook! Weber is now a private company again. Here is an article. www.reuters.com/markets/deals/weber-be-taken-private-by-bdt-capital-partners-232-bln-2022-12-12/

[@DK-wd8ju]

With the launch of the SNS master kettle I feel that is a better comparison to the performer.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I think so too… my video may have had something to do with that😊

[@RobFerrellDrumStudio]

Great content as always Johnny! Really appreciate the detail you put into your videos. The great content is matched only by the great quality! I only got into charcoal grilling during the lockdowns… specifically August of 2020. I got a Weber Premium and love it but wished I’d have gotten the Performer model you have. I’m not interested in the Deluxe Performers with the timer or gas assist. I’ve seen some complaints about the SnS grills stability and the ash sweeps not doing a good job of cleaning. Having said that, my first and only Weber purchase took three bowls to get right as the P shaped cutouts weren’t in the right place and the ash sweeps never closed completely! Still finding my way between the Slow n Sear and Weber char baskets. A full chimney of KBB with split baskets, top vent wide open, bottom vent 1/8-1/4 open yields me 90/120 minutes of 350. My snakes run within ten degrees +\- for 8 hours. I own both the Original SnS as well as the Deluxe, EZ Spin and DnG. I have yet to get the consistency with them that I can get with the above named methods. The snake is more a PITA to set up but man does it run stable and clean with no temp spikes. I did my first brisket a few months ago and it turned out perfectly following America’s Test Kitchen’s recipe. I may try and experiment a bit more with the SnS but I definitely feel more confident with the baskets and snake.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hey Rob. I read a lot of comments about folks getting into grilling because of covid. I think as long as you find a method that works for you then stick with it. That table makes a huge difference for the total enjoyable grilling experience. To have that space to set something down on is really a huge deal and is so much help. Take care Rob.

[@brenster21]

Hey so i have a stupid question. Is there any way to get the gas starter on the performer to work well with the slow and sear?

[@Viewtoagrill]

Sorry, I do not know the answer to that. My performer does not have a gas starter.

[@robertcrabtree6137]

In your opinion, is it worth the upgrade? I have a master touch and I love it, but would you personally say it’s better to buy the SNS, or to mod the master touch??

[@Viewtoagrill]

No. If you already have a performer I would just get the SnS insert. Only modify it if you are going to use a temp controller.

[@SDSBBQs]

Very well done. The Mrs still calls you Mr Topo Chico

[@Viewtoagrill]

I know you would recognize the bottle! Thanks Dash.

[@brianveestrom6784]

Excellent correct comparison Johnny. apples to apples

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Brian!

[@oldtomplatz8862]

Currently deciding on these two. Currently have a Weber smoky Joe and while it’s awesome, it’s just so small and inconvenient at times. Not sure if the extra money is worth it on the SNS compared to the Master touch. Still debating!

[@Viewtoagrill]

It is a tough choice!

[@liahfox5840]

The SnS deluxe looks much better from a cooking perspective. It's only 10-20$ more than the Webber. For that $20 you get a lot more control over your cooking. The vents are larger, more blades, and they're more polished. It also comes with real two zone system, and being able to spin the grill grate is a huge plus. Last but not least, more grill surface is preferable to more grill height. I can always cut an inch off the top of a ham for the puppies.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Can't argue with that. Out of the box you do have a lot more options, for sure.

[@johnmanthey6034]

This is comparison I was hoping for. I have the Weber you showed. Looking at that SNS. Like the li with the vent and vent position. The other thing on the SNS is the two ports. On the other hand I like the stability and the larger side table on my Weber Performer. With the side shelf down and the grill covered it doesn’t take up a lot of patio space. I just have a couple questions for you. Will the SNS Spin grate spin on the Performer? Second is if you use the Slow and Sear do you always have to have the hot zone on the right side of the grill or can you use it on the left side when facing the grill? I think I’ll keep my Performer.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hello John. Yes the spin grate will spin on the performer. For the hot zone, you can have that anywhere you want it, although I do think it works best on the side next to the table. For me, it just works out better that way... and Maybe if you were left handed the other way? Not sure, but maybe it is just a right handed thing.... hmmm.

[@doct0rnic]

17:21 The weber charcoal baskets can be modified to make a slow n sear, look up the bro n sear, i made one and love it. Also upgraded to the killa grilla sns grate because i wanted thick stainless steel, i also ended buying the sns drip pan.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I also have the Killa Grilla grates... but I understand the person that makes them is closing shop and retireing which is why I did not name them in this video. If you go to thier website they are having a going out of business sale right now.

[@doct0rnic]

​@@Viewtoagrillreally? Thats sad, I really like mine too

[@KaoV1983]

The SnS seems great but for the price I’m not gonna switch.

[@Viewtoagrill]

They are great products.

[@lkaido-7748]

I want to buy a kettle, I am leaning towards SNS but I am afraid it does not hold the heat inside as much as the weber. in terms of keeping heat and quality which one is better or are they the same on those categories ?

[@Viewtoagrill]

It is about the same in both when you are using the inserts on both.

[@lupem5695]

I love Topo Chico Lime! By the way good informational video. I have the Webet Perfomer but have bought the SnS travel grill and also starting to like it. Thanks Johnny for this informational videos, love them!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@RustyBBQLamb]

I have both grills as well and love them both but the SnS has become my go to! My biggest complaint about Weber is the great it comes with. Couldn't get rid of that fast enough and replace it with the easy spin grate Also slow N sear has become a must-have!

[@Viewtoagrill]

They are both well thought out grills. I agree, the SnS insert is a must have… best kettle accessory around.

[@GiovanniGiorgo]

Does the easy spin grate spin well in the Weber? If so, what allows it to spin more freely?

[@RustyBBQLamb]

@@GiovanniGiorgo definitely does in both. It's just how it's welded together

[@Viewtoagrill]

Yes. The reason is because none of the welds extend past the bottom of the grate. It is smooth all the way around.@@GiovanniGiorgo

[@RicsBBQSpecialties]

I’ll take a Weber Kettle all day long. Great video Johnny 👍🏼👍🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Ric.

[@bobbicatton]

Great comparison, sure to help folks make an informed decision👍😊

[@Viewtoagrill]

Absolutely. Take care Bobbi.

[@keithkreatives]

The ability to spin the grate mentioned here and by Guga is notable but hardly an issue. You can use tongs or a grill glove and still move it with a slight jiggle. To me, is a non issue

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hello Keith. You are correct, that is how I did for years. Take care.

[@philvie]

Just received my sns deluxe on Amazon, $349 with free shipping

[@Viewtoagrill]

Awesome 😎

[@danielfb1978]

Hey man! can you make a video on how to eliminate the smoking odor/flavor on a performer kettle? I bought mine a few weeks ago to smoke and grill... first 3 times I've used it and I've smoked some ribs for ~8 hours... light cleaned it and closed vents after every cook, I've tried to grill some steaks few days later and as soon as I open the lid or fire it up there is this insane amount of sugar/sweet and smoke flavor all inside the grill, grates, lid, kettle. Whatever I cook, even if I just throw some steaks with salt they do taste like sweet and sugar and smoke flavor. I've got rid of that smell and flavor by deeply cleaning it but it takes me like 30-60 minutes to do so. Is there an easy way to do it? What's the right thing to do? do a deep/hard clean after smoking or before grilling? I'm thinking on buying a WSM to cook and leave the kettle just for grills since It's a little bit hard to clean it deeply (water, soap, brush etc) every time I cook on it - do you get this problem as well?

[@Viewtoagrill]

Interesting. If you watch a few of my cooking videos you will see that I clean my grill grates before every use. That helps. Also, are you using kingsford charcoal... lately I have found that kingsford is producing a lot of smoke and leaves an odd flavor... so, I don't use it anymore, I use lump charcoal because it burns cleaner. use a chimney starter to start your fire... not lighter fluid. My suggestion is to watch some of my newer videos, I show the whole grilling process not just the recipe.

[@tman6495]

Great comparison.....tough choice as each have some great features. So which Grill do you seem to go to the most? (too bad the Weber doesnt have Stainless Steel Top Grate as standard)

[@Viewtoagrill]

For grilling I go to the Performer. I like the xtra table space for setting things down on. I will smoke on the SnS because I have a ThermoWorks billow set up.

[@tman6495]

@@Viewtoagrill thank you!

[@jaxs.5110]

How’s the build quality of these newer black version sns kettles? I used to have the grey one but some dumbass stole ot from my driveway????? now I’m thinking of buying this black new version but some say the quality’s not as good? I’m leaning towards a Weber master touch+ sns accessories but I really liked the smoke hole I had on my older sns… thanks in advance..

[@Viewtoagrill]

From what I understand is the only thing that changed was the color. All other aspects remain the same.

[@therookiefisherman5234]

I do have a question about some Weber accessories, I don't think you have a video on this but what are your thoughts on the Weber charcoal fuel holders vs the Weber charcoal heat controller? I feel you get to use more real estate on the grill with the charcoal heat controller what are your thoughts?

[@Viewtoagrill]

I do not have the heat controller. Judging by the pictures it does open up a lot of real-estate om the grate.

[@munkykng416]

I wouldn't say other comparisons are incorrect. I like seeing the difference in price point and features. What would this product give me at this price point if forgo some features? More features doesn't necessarily mean advantage either if you don't actually need or use them. I bought a jumbo joe and it comes with a bunch of drawbacks and I could have bought a bigger more feature rich grill but I wanted small with less parts to maintain and be able to just throw into my car. This isn't a gripe against comparing almost identical products with a similar price point, that's part of the process as well. I looked at grills, then j look at small and big grills, then I looked gas or solid fuel, then I looked at only solid fuel, then I compared all the similar ones. This video is where a person would be when they're about to purchase. It isn't the only "correct" comparison video.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I’ll stick by my title because I do think this is the correct comparison. Please direct me to a better comparison video of a Weber kettle to the SnS kettle. I would love to see it.

[@ScottysBackYardBBQ]

this is an awesome comparison video. i been saying the same thing for years.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Yep.

[@travelasia2023]

@Viewtoagrill - Link to the Billows BBQ Temperature Control Fan Kit?

[@Viewtoagrill]

Here it is. alnk.to/ei0Kv4Q Be sure to read about which thermometer is compatible to run the billow. Not all of the thermoworks thermometers are capable of running it.

[@ImTheBlueRanger]

Gonna redo this now that SnS has released the Master Kettle?

[@Viewtoagrill]

I will if SnS sends me one.

[@blistersteel]

You shared a lot of tips and knowledge. Many thanks sir.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks for watching!

[@therookiefisherman5234]

I just purchased the Weber kettle deluxe and I was told it does not bring the Charcole baskets I had to buy those separately.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Interesting. Because if you go to the weber site and look at the Weber 22 Performer Deluxe, it says that 2 char-baskets are included.

[@therookiefisherman5234]

The one I purchased is the 22" performer, not the deluxe.

[@Viewtoagrill]

@@therookiefisherman5234 well, that’s interesting. The one I purchased from them came with the baskets I guess they must not be including them anymore.

[@SJCOOKS]

excellent comparison Johnny. really well made. at some point, I'll do my sns kettle review. I wanted to do a couple of cooks with it on my channel before releasing an unboxing and review video but you nailed it!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Sal.

[@ront2457]

I enjoy your content..no BS...no hype just good info!!...Are you still using those dumbbells?

[@Viewtoagrill]

I am using them. I had a hernia and had to get that fixed and just now getting comfortable to working out again.

[@ront2457]

@@Viewtoagrill Sorry to hear of the hernia but glad you're on the mend and using the DB's again. Great channel Johnny!!

[@Viewtoagrill]

The herna was due to a surgery that I had about almost two years ago where they had to open me up... and it didn't heal right... hernia...sucked... but it is all fixed now. Take care Ron.

[@kreiman770]

What are your thoughts between the 22" and 26" Weber? What is the difference in how many ppl can be easily fed with each?

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hello Borris. For me the main difference the size of protein you can get in. For instance the size of brisket or a large turkey. The number of small pieces if protein is not an issue. I can cook 30 hamburgers on a 22 just as well as a 26.

[@joshsos5541]

Good comparison! I need one of either

[@Viewtoagrill]

Yes you do!

[@eristicfreethinker2098]

Any idea why Weber wouldn’t offer a model with the two holes already drilled and porcelain coated so users have the option to use a thermo controlled fan and avoid crimping probe leads? They could also modify their grate support to allow the grate to spin 360. Those improvements would support modern smoking technology and techniques without making a nod to SnS baskets. Seems Weber could crush SnS with those simple improvements.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Weber had the oportunity to do this way before the SnS kettle. Folks were making these modifications to kettles since the slow n sear basket hit the market. not sure why the never capitalized on this .

[@JamesCAsphalt8]

This is not comparing apples to apples. SNS makes a gril comperable to the weber Performer. Well, maybe that's something new. I see this video is a year old. But the Deluxe model looks just like the performer now. Thank you very much for pointing out that the weber is designed to put the baskets on oposite sides and so the thermometer is not "in the wrong place." Every time I hear someone say that the thermometer is on the wrong side I think, "this person must be using an SNS and so, they have that impression.

[@Viewtoagrill]

This was the best comparison at the time it was released now, SnS has a more comparible model. I agree, if you are using the SnS basket then you would think the thermometer is in the wrong place. Take care James, thanks for watching.

[@jeeperguy4290]

Hey man, I just subscribed. You have a great channel! Your videos are to the point and have great substance. I find I do a lot of your tips and have to get another charcoal chimney starter and some of those starter cubes. I have 2 places where I grill and smoke. I probably don’t grill and smoke as often as you but really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great content.🤙🏻

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Jeeper Guy!

[@gnudad]

Very nice, and clear video!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks!

[@eio1971]

Awesome comparison video thanks.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks for watching!

[@kellym3531]

The perfect grill has yet to be made.

[@Viewtoagrill]

True.

[@kraftwerk974]

Deberías de tener más subscriptores amigo ya que el contenido que subes es excelente 👌

[@Viewtoagrill]

¡Muchas gracias y estoy de acuerdo! Take care.

[@JoseChavez-rp3ez]

Awesome review on both the products, thank you! 👍

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks!

[@paulroueche7003]

Great comparison.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks Paul.

[@tdtommy196]

I have a Performer and there's a few things I would like to share about what I like and don't like as well: The newer Weber Performers have P Shaped bottom vents, and the ash collector has markings on it that tell you precisely how to set the vents to only allow air through the circle of the P, which is perfect for low and slow. It also has a marking for half and fully open. I never had trouble ever with air escaping from the top vent on my weber. It sits snuggly and its contoured to the lid. The lid bale for the Performer is really nice...most of the time. You literally roll the lid off to the side and you don't have to worry about trying to hook it to the side of the bowl. However, the screws that hold the lid bale to the bowl stick out past the grates, so you have to take the lid off at an angle to remove it. This doesn't seem like a big deal until you go to try to just lift one side of the grates for one reason or another during a cook, and you end up having to take everything off and remove the grate to do what you need to do (not that this happens often, but happened to me at least once.) I have the baskets but I barely use them. I have no desire for a slow n sear or drip pan either. It's a waste of money. I just use a couple fire bricks (regular bricks would honestly work just fine too, they will just deteriorate faster) to block off my direct side from my indirect side. This is in my opinion way better than a slow and sear because if lets say i want my direct side to be a little bigger or a little smaller, I can control that. where as if you are using baskets or a slow and sear it is what it is. As far as a drip pan, why bother? use some tinfoil to line your indirect side and put down foil pan under your protein if you want. Or if you want to add a little moisture to the cook, a meatloaf pan full of water placed on the grates near the direct side does a better job than that tiny trough on the sns. I don't like the GBS grates. I want to take that little circle insert and fling it to the moon! If's a freaking grill. I'm not going to buy a wok or a griddle or anything like that to stick smack dab in the middle of the grill. If I want to fry something on the grill ill use a cast iron frying pan right over the grates. that insert is 99.9% useless and its a pain in the ass when you want to just hang your grates off the side of the grill while cleaning the bowl out or setting up your cook. As a work around I took key rings and looped them between 2 sides of the insert and the grates so the insert doesn't go flying when I hang the grate on the side of the table, but it still is an annoyance. I would prefer it if the hinged openings would just be bigger. The other mod I did is I took an angle grinder to the bottom side of the grate handles to make it smooth and it spins much easier now. That's 2 min of work that was totally worth doing. Weber should really just make those flush like the SnS grates. I wish that the thermometer was on the same side as the top vent and much closer to the grill grates. Although this is no longer a big deal because I bought a wifi meat thermometer that does the internal temp of the meat as well as the ambient temp. This is the ONLY accessory I suggest anyone drop their hard earned money on. If you are going to blow an extra $150 don't waste it on the slow n sear and the drip pan. spend it on a good meat thermometer instead. I can check my grill and meat temps while I'm at 7/11 buying ice or even better, I can start a brisket at 12 AM, go to bed, and if my temps dip or spike get alerted. I also put a gasket around the bottom of my lid and that almost completely stopped any smoke from leaking through the bottom of the lid. Honestly still not sure if this significantly improved efficiency or anything, but it feels better not seeing any smoke come out from places it shouldn't on slow cooks. One last thing. I prefer to use lump charcoal because it burns cleaner and it makes the food taste better than briquettes. There can be some really small pieces in lump though, and they tend to fall through the charcoal grates. To remedy this, just buy or garbage pick (what I did because I am cheap) a second charcoal grate and put it down perpendicular to the current grate. works like a champ!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Some great observations here. There is one thing I want to point out though, If you go to the weber website weberinc.sjv.io/ORdMRn and take a look at the pictures of the Performer... blow them up and you don't see the additional markings on the ash collector, it looks exactly like mine. Through another video I posted I learned the the Europe verision of the Peformer is like you describe... and the US version is like mine... not sure how true that is, but if you check out the link in this comment you will be able to see the ash collector assembly is like mine. And obviously I dissagree about what you say about the SnS insert. I think it is the best accessory for the weber kettle... I have a video that I posted explaining why(posted last year). Anyway, I enjoyed reading your post. Take care!

[@tdtommy196]

@@Viewtoagrill I bought my Performer last year at Manny's Ace Hardware in Lancaster, NY. It has the P shaped holes and the markings on the ash collector.

[@hangonwhat]

@@Viewtoagrill I bought mine off the Weber website, and it looks just like yours. I think it is the Weber Performer Deluxe that comes with the Master Touch bowl and Master Touch ash collector, the one with markings.

[@tdtommy196]

​@@hangonwhatmine is just the regular performer like the one Johnny has in the video, but it has the p shaped vents and the ash catcher with the dots on it. I just bought it last year. I wish I could put a picture on here.

[@konacowboy]

Great video Johnny!

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks KC!

[@nest22]

Thickness of the metal?

[@Viewtoagrill]

I am not sure if they match... but they "feel" the same. I will say, I think the porcelain is thinner on the SnS.

[@odom2142]

I’m glad SnS is out there putting the pressure on Weber to improve, but I couldn’t buy an SnS because it’s a total copycat of an American icon. I like Weber just fine as-is.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Exactly, competition drives innovation.

[@katzsteel]

I’ve had similar feelings about SNS. I did buy the accessory a few years back for my Weber kettle, which is a copy of another product (Smokenater) with a few differences. Concept is the same. Also, Dave P. seems a bit, ummmm, unlikable, so there’s that too. I would probably just default to my fire bricks in the Weber for a separator now.

[@odom2142]

@@katzsteel Oh wow, I just looked up the Smokenator and you’re right- the SnS is very similar. Now I can’t say anything personal about the owner of SnS whom I have never met, but I don’t like the copying. Then again, I suppose many products are based on improving something that had already existed… Still, this is a WEBER KETTLE!!! I am loyal. :)

[@doct0rnic]

​@@katzsteeli wish the smokinator got more attention, it seemed to me that the slow in sear stole the spotlight when the smokinator was just starting to get popular

[@firebirdlover4460]

This is the problem SnS faces...there's nothing wrong with the Weber kettle. It's iconic for a reason....it's literally a great grill. So why copy it? The vast majority of kettle buyers will never abandon Weber. Why not bring something new and innovative , like Masterbuilt did with the gravity fed charcoal grill...that one had me really thinking before I bought my performer deluxe.

[@infinite999ammo]

The shelf is installed upside-down on the PERFORMER

[@Viewtoagrill]

I bought that from Home Depot and it was already assembled. Someone else mentioned that in another video. But it looks just like the one pictured on the Weber website… unless they have it upside down on there as well. Check it out here. Weber Kettle 22 inch with table - weberinc.sjv.io/ORdMRn

[@texasgunslinger5751]

By far my favorite grilling YT channel.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thanks!

[@angryhaosan]

amazing review

[@Viewtoagrill]

Thank you!😊

[@kevinferguson3990]

You can’t beat a Weber kettle, Johnny

[@Viewtoagrill]

Hey Kevin! Thanks for watching.

[@JamesCAsphalt8]

Note that the "Deluxe Kettle Grill" is not the correct picture.

[@Viewtoagrill]

I'm not sure what you are getting at James.

[@MasseyFerguson-pp4fo]

I cook on 55 gallon drum 😎

[@Viewtoagrill]

Nice!

[@Hwd371]

Great content. You got a follow.

[@Viewtoagrill]

Welcome aboard!

[@LS-zk4mt]

The fact that the Weber kettle does not fit on the SNS is a deal breaker because there are so many accessories for the Weber kettle that would be foolish to buy an s&s. You wouldn't be able to get all these aftermarket accessories that are designed for the Weber 22" take a look what's out there and you'll see what I'm talking about

[@Viewtoagrill]

It's been a while but I think I actually mention that in the video.

[@scotchbarrel3371]

The Weber is better for me but the cart needs a modernization.

[@Viewtoagrill]

They do have the weber performer deluxe with more features.