Advaita, Reincarnation, Dodgy Defintions, and Falsifiability

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[@infinity5826]

I amazed to hear the smart and educational side of India on this channel.

[@MischiefL0ki]

Everything is temporary but "mujhe btao kiss baare me baat krni hai, add me! add me! mat bolo" is permanent.

[@gamingwithlegendaryguys2519]

😂

[@The_Curious_Ra.ke01]

(Timestamps) 00:00 Opening Music 3:00 Intro 4:45 Comments Reading 13:00 Video Chat:- 13:10 Mohit - Advait, Ramana Maharshi Consciousness, Dream. 36:05 Manvinder - Psychoanalysis, Shamanic Practices, Placebo Effect, Faith Healing. (44:45 Comments Reading) 54:15 Aryavart - Reincarnation, Soul, Haunted places. 59:55 Abhishek - 'Hero Worshipping is also a Religion?' (But most of the debate was on coming up with a common defination of words, but it didn't happen) 01:12:05 Anaytra (hope spelling is correct) - Caller shared her experience as atheist and impacts on family dynamics. (01:24:20 Comment Reading) 01:30:10 Nakul - Relationship between atheist and religious people, Feeling superior etc. 01:38:55 Mithil - Falsifiability 01:52:55 Outro

[@shivamkatale5909]

Thnx bro i only wanted to see debate on reincarnation

[@srghhh5589]

59:55 Abhisek's part is mostly about right wing biasedness and pick&choose. Feminism is irrational, Nehruvian politics is religion lol.

[@The_Curious_Ra.ke01]

@@srghhh5589 Haha, that's true. I was confused what I should write about this discussion.

[@bloodlinearx1956]

Thnks bro ..well done.keeo it up❤

[@kongspeaks4778]

Doing god's, I mean Satan's, good work

[@Manob__Human]

Vimoh muting and removing that Banerjee guy is best part of this podcast for me 😆😆😆 Some people can be so condescending and hypocrite while being in debate

[@gamingwithlegendaryguys2519]

Feminist taking about solid mechanics🤡. Lol bro really got the worst point.

[@eelongMast]

that guy was cringe 🤮 how his family tolerate him

[@jsawant85]

I am not sure that guy is.liked by anyone. Feel sad for him

[@Bookisque]

I swear. His argument was not only faulty but also extremely biased (towards the masculine ruling party, might I add). I feel secondhand embarrassment listening to him 😂

[@thoughtspondering]

Poor Banerjee guy has filled himself with so much hate that he can't have a straight sensible conversation on any topic.

[@okeshsahu3548]

Most intellectual channel on KZbin

[@gyansahu2894]

@@okeshsahu3548 agree

[@harshsharmap.2333]

Abhishek don’t want to stupid so he created his own definitions

[@kevivsinha5128]

Mai pehle caller ko batana chahunga ki ek baar dream mei maine ek aadmi se pucha tha ki kya ye real world hai ya dream world? Uska jawab tha 'yehi real world hai, nai to tu yaha kyon aata rehta hai. Jahan se tu ise dekh raha hai wo unreal/dream world hai. Wahan se uth kar (after death) tu yahin aayega. Ab tu decide kar ki tu iss real world mei rehna chahta hai ya apne dream world mei jise tu life kehta hai. Mai tab se zyada samay real world mei rehta hun. Aur sirf khaata aur sota rehta hun. Haalaki iss se mujhe log lazy aur loser bolne lage hai. Par ye sirf iss dream world ke log hai. Isliye it doesn't really matter.

[@DeepakJAT0007]

Bhaai is papi pet ko khaane ki jarurat nhi hoti to me bhi aaram se yhi sochta rahta 🌚

[@utkarshraj03]

You got us in the first half😂

[@shivanidagar8923]

@@utkarshraj03 seriously 😂😂😂

[@abhisheksomani1496]

What was that caller talking about feminism, nehru worshipers and secularism. I mean if there's a punchable caller that's who it would be.

[@arkaprovochoudhury]

Sometimes I feel sad, Bengalees like me were once considered the most progressive people in India, but now Bengalees are very sexist, Homophobic, Islamophobic even Racist!

[@mithilbhoras5951]

I like how his logic is that "If something was named after Nehru, it was because of Nehru worshippers" Kuch logic hai is baat Mai?

[@thoughtspondering]

Poor Banerjee guy has filled himself with so much hate that he can't have a straight sensible conversation on any topic.

[@vedangpathak]

When they say life is a dream. how do they know something exist other than this dream. what is evidence of ultimate reality not being a dream?

[@mohitdhiman79]

Bro, can you deny that you exist. I am saying you as consciousness are the ultimate reality.

[@vedangpathak]

@@mohitdhiman79 so I exist in nothing? Why am I not a Dream? What method are u using to categorise "I" in not a dream. and everything else in "Is a dream".

[@mohitdhiman79]

@@vedangpathak no you are existence itself. Nothing else exists apart from you. There is no difference between you and existence.

[@mohitdhiman79]

@@vedangpathak I can't understand your question. State more clearly.

[@jagmeetjhajj]

The ultimate reality cannot be experienced by an individual because an individual doesn't have the means to experience it. We just have 5 senses that show a version of reality. On top of that you add your tendencies, which you are conditioned to as a human. As a child you cry and want your mother's nurture. As a teenager you start feeling attraction to opposite sex. As a grown man you want to earn livelihood and start a family. You see your life in relation to all of these things and they influence how you see yourself and others. I think advaita describes this as a dream, in the sense that it is removed from the actual ultimate reality.

[@bahubali100bb]

22:00 ये व्यक्ति रियलिटी को ड्रीम जैसा बोल रहा है।मेरा सवाल ये है कि ये आदमी बहस में इतनी मेहनत क्यों कर रहा है जब ये सब ड्रीम है।जब ये अल्टीमेट रियलिटी में पहुचेगा तो इसके अनुसार ये सब मीनिंगलेस हो जायेगा।इसे बोलिये की ठंड रखे।

[@shiro_yasha]

Dream logic is BS. If this reality is dream, then we can go to infinity with same logic. Dream within dream within dream; and there’s no ‘one infinity’.

[@kongspeaks4778]

Bro watched Inception and thought it was a documentary

[@kavyam_..]

That girl is the whole vibe. 1:12:05

[@chandreshbalar9413]

Thanks

[@vimohlive]

Welcome and thanks!

[@gyansahu2894]

That's savage by vimoh😂 1:11:47

[@abhisheksomani1496]

Starts at 3:00

[@basantprasadsgarden8365]

1:10:00 Listening the opinions of Abhishek, it appears that Bangalis are going through an Era of Brainrot. Thanks to TMC's Regionalism Hype followed by BJP's Hindutva infection

[@Bookisque]

There're always a couple of people in every place/movement who go through brainrots. It's not "Bengalis" in general. Please don't be as condescending as the person you claim to have no regards for.

[@basantprasadsgarden8365]

@@Bookisque I have seen Bengal for last 20years and I can notice it's changing not for good

[@Bookisque]

@@basantprasadsgarden8365 it might be true that you've seen Bengal, but as a person with lived experiences, there are, I repeat always people who will be extremists and get swayed by popular perceptions. It happened during all major events all over the world. It doesn't say anything about an entire state.

[@thoughtspondering]

Poor Banerjee guy has filled himself with so much hate that he can't have a straight sensible conversation on any topic.

[@gauravjain2477]

PLEASE DISCUSS ABOUT WHICH RELIGION IS OLD AND BREAK EGO OF ALL HINDUS ABOUT THIS WHO ARE MAKING CLAIMS THAT THEY ARE VERY OLD RELIGION AND EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND THEM...I AM SO FRUSTRATED WITH THIS BECAUSE AM AN ATHEIST 😪

[@AM-dx8kn]

Islam is the oldest religion.

[@pushpindersingh6809]

Feel the irritation bro I also hear this everywhere for astrology to don’t know what pseudoscience I hear for my circle

[@pushpindersingh6809]

@@AM-dx8kn bro you have proved the person we were talking about

[@pushpindersingh6809]

@@AM-dx8kn and I have one question genuinely “why do we need have prove or even make a such a statement ?” Thank you 🙏 waiting for your answer and hope you will give it without getting pissed or angry

[@AM-dx8kn]

@@pushpindersingh6809 I'm not claiming or proving anything, I'm just stating what I personally believe in. And no I won't be pissed or angry at all I will wish and pray that people like you are on the right side of the things on the judgement day😊😊.

[@fatimahussain9531]

How myth were became part of religion pls tell

[@RajeevNandiMusic]

What's your take on the sedition charges on Arundhati Roy for her remarks on Kashmir not being an integral part of India ?

[@arcadekhiladi]

Please talk about tiku singh reincarnation case

[@Bookisque]

I understand Anaytra's perspective. A person who was/is extremely important to me, let's say, the most important, has become a "kattar Hindu". And it's difficult to hold a conversation with him. And I tend to get aggressive too. Who knows what'll happen! I hope taking a break helps. Maybe after a couple of years they'll come around because I'm not a calm enough person to constantly debate. Skepticism is something very personal for me. So is anti-Hindutva (not Hinduism, I'm not against any Hindus or their religion, only the rabid version of it). I cannot hold "discussions" as it's something very personal to me. Like being a woman, it's impossible to argue about Feminism because there's no other thing I can be but a feminist. Wo hi. I really hope some of our most precious relationships are salvable. It's a difficult time to be in, it's a divisive time.

[@anaitrarajawat369]

About the last 2 lines, unfortunately there are too many women who do not think being a feminist is inherent, glad you aren't one of them.

[@ssh2791]

​@@anaitrarajawat369I am curious to know whether your kattar friend watches anime or not. Their gender? Do they come from a conservative home? Upper caste or SC/OBC?

[@user-rs1ub5zk3p]

Day before yesterday i had a dream, that a film i wrote is in theatres housefull, it was so real, but i realized i dont know the name of the films, i asked other audience they didnt know either... i realised at that moment its a dream, why else ppl will come to watch a movie they dont know the name of...

[@amitpanda9234]

As a mutual debate platform, u need to provide the relevant space for your co debtor to present the point of view what he/she etc. thinks . That guy whom u just kick out from the caller ,then I think u also need to introspect of your own defination of how debating works. No hate to vimoh , but this is my point of view on such situation.

[@mithilbhoras5951]

I disagree. The caller was having a bad faith discussion, talking constantly over Vimoh, not giving answers to simple questions and getting really worked up. I don't think we need to give time and space for people who are only coming to lecture not for discussion/debate. Life is too small for that. Vimoh has given more than enough space for people with differing views. His entire weekly livestreams are dedicated to them.

[@utkarshtiwari7504]

If you're thinking about explaining to me the difference between reality and dreams, do you actually know if you're seeing reality? How can you explain the difference if you don't even know whether you have experienced dreams and reality in real life, or if you are explaining the difference inside a dream?

[@utkarshtiwari7504]

If you're experiencing all this in your dreams, how do you know it's not a dream? How can you be sure that it will follow the rules you made during your dream? It could be a dream within a dream, and one level of the dream might follow rules and consistency

[@anandgarhwal1421]

59:26 this was funny af 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ankit-qo6pv]

Vimoh bhaiya, caller 1, caller 2 करके time stamp लगा देना please. कभी कभी किसी किसी caller को skip करने का मन करता है।

[@professionaltrader415]

Dear mohit i can understand your pain but for betterment of yourself dont trust anyone above nature law Second investigate what is ahm bhramashmi Third betterly understand adwait Forth try to get idea what that mad guy krishna says 1 i am everywhere and without my interest nothing will change 2 dont focus on result just focus on work This both statement in geeta was there and both are correct but contraindicated Once you get clear idea you will get complete understanding of adwait and you betterly make vimoh to understand ....... And if i get chanse definitely i will try than you may also get clarity but here i may get problem to make my complete statement bcz for that i need some time without interption

[@pallaviflowers5863]

Syam manavaji ne bhi 25lac ka price rakha he koi chamtakar nahi hota

[@SS-ct4hv]

💙💙💙💙💙

[@jagabandhunayak6882]

If every action has equal n opposite reaction then how big could be the action behind the creation of the universe?

[@mithilbhoras5951]

How do you know the universe was created?

[@jagabandhunayak6882]

@@mithilbhoras5951 both science and religious scriptures say about creation. How do you know it's not created?

[@Learner980]

​@@jagabandhunayak6882 Lol. If you say the universe is created then you have to show how it is so. You can't ask how do you know it was not created.

[@Anonymous-kw7ls]

The big Bang Theory

[@gamesong6600]

​@@jagabandhunayak6882science doesn't say it was created. It says "how it began".

[@SantLapou]

Star wars theme incoming 😅😅 10:35

[@AazamPossum]

Contact me Matthew McConaughey bhi he. Javaan version.

[@ISHWERRAY]

jis tarah hum kisi super consciousness k dream hain, usi tarah us super consciousness k realm me infinite super consciousness hain, jo sabhi dream dekh rhe hain, or ye sabhi super consciousness inse uper ek super supreme consciousness k dream hain, in super supreme consciousness k realm me infinite super supreme consciousness hain. Jo super consciousness ko dream me dekh rhe hai, is tarah ye process infinity tak hota ja rha hai, ye mene dhyan me jana hai, or hum jis consciousness k dream me hain or use ultimate reality kah rhe hain wah khud kisi upper consciousness ka dream hai

[@diamond_dew]

Why r ppl so desperate to believe any random prsn.. who said random things long time back😂😂

[@ronnieyes4770]

??

[@eelongMast]

The first caller is living in a dream, this "who am I" is all generated by the babas of India. They themselves do not know who they are 😅 do not waste your time thinking all the day "WHO AM I" ... 1st caller is obsessed with dreams!!! absurd conversation!

[@utkarshtiwari7504]

Do you know about Descartes and his quote "I think therefore I am" He began by doubting everything that could possibly be doubted, including the evidence of the senses and the existence of the physical world.

[@eelongMast]

@@utkarshtiwari7504 doubting and questioning is a good thing, like wright brothers doubted and made an airplane..same Einstein and tesla did and they discovered something. This "who i am " is a myth and doubting on such thing is useless. Beyond science everything is a mythology.

[@utkarshtiwari7504]

​@@eelongMast Discovering something is not the goal of life. Not everyone is similar to the Wright brothers or Einstein. Most of the population passes away without making any significant discoveries in their lifetime. The world is full of people with vastly different views

[@eelongMast]

@@utkarshtiwari7504 what is your goal bro ?

[@anuragekka317]

He has the vibe of one divorced uncle that nobody likes in the family.

[@amantripathi2715]

sir maine live stream ke shuru mein ek question poochha tha jiske jawab mein aapne kaha ki mimansa aur sankhy Darshan yah Bhartiya Darshan hai naak ki Hindu Darshan. to sayad aap ko confusion hai aap ak bar google kar le aap jaane anjane mein galat bele hai ye sankhya aur mimansa Hindu Darshan ke antargat aate Hain. to is hisab se kya atheist bhi Hindu hi hai. please bataen 😐

[@gamesong6600]

2 sawal 1. Aap kya mante ho mimansa ya sankhya aur kyu? 2. Atheist hone ke liye sankhya ya mimansa ki jaroorat to hai nhi. Atheism 1 bada circle hai, jo sankhya aur mimansa ke area se bahar hai.

[@amantripathi2715]

@@gamesong6600 bhai agar mai sankhya aur mimansa ki bat kar raha hu to iska matlab ye nahi ki jaruri hai ki mai inko manta hu waise mai yr bhi nahi kahunga ki nahi manta hu jaha bat dusare saval ki hai mujhe lagata hai aap ko aadhura gayan hai mere vicharo ka kyuki ye saval mai vimoh ji se puchh chuka hu aor vo ispar apna ray kuchh diye hai to ye question usi ka agala part hai aap bich se aaye hai aap nahi samajh payenge waise aor koi question ho to puchhiye

[@amantripathi2715]

@@gamesong6600 aor ha mai kya manta hu kya nahi isbar bat na kare to acha hai mai kuch nahi manta apne ko na atheist aor na hi spritual to keval question puchhane se aap mujhe kisi ak k sath mat jode please ab agar agala question ho to puchhiye

[@gamesong6600]

@@amantripathi2715 ye 2 q isliye jaroori the 1. Aisa koi milta nhi jo sankhya Manta ho aur baki sabhi chijo ko reject kar chuka ho. Jo bhi sankhya ya mimansa Manta hai wo bahut si aur chije bhi Manta hai. 2. Atheist ko sankhya ya mimansa ki koi need to hai nhi. Usase agree kare ye bhi jaroori nhi hai. To sankhya/mimansa ko follow karne walo aur atheists ke beech koi strong link nhi hai. Ha cchote mote agreements ho sakte hai, jo ki har jagah hote hai.

[@amantripathi2715]

@@gamesong6600 bhaiya isi liye bola aap bich me aaye ho kyuki Mai vimoh ji se puchha tha ki kya keval god ko na manana hi atheist hona hai Maine "keval " bola tha to unhone bola ha aor Maine yahi same question 2 bar puchha dono bar ha bole

[@jagabandhunayak6882]

Sir atheists keliye there can never be conclusive

[@avdheshbabaria8488]

(dum)Banerjee.. if a person is following your so called religions like feminism, nehruism or such, how is that person allowed to follow mainstream religions as its a fallacy to find a person following two religions simultaneously. its in the basic concept of religion. however its clearly evident that no religion denies you to follow feminism or such and people often follow both feminism and traditional religion(not your personal defintion!) at the same time. is that proof enough that feminism cannot be called a mainstream religion or 'like' mainstream religion by any verbal gymnastics from physics labs of fluid feminism? meritless and noisy.

[@Bookisque]

আরে অভিষেক বাবু আপনি আবার হাজির হয়েছেন? কালেকটিভলি বাঙালিদের নাম ডোবাবেন দেখছি 😂

[@harshsharmap.2333]

The metaphysics Beginners think they are cool by discussing consciousness and aatma

[@alltimefire545]

Naam se sharma hatale bhai 😭😭

[@mohitdhiman79]

​@@alltimefire545how do you know they think that way.

[@harshsharmap.2333]

@@alltimefire545ohh sorry jor se lagi kya 😢

[@goat4652]

Abhishek is acting oversmart n Irritating as hell . perfect example of when a person hateful towards others that person had justified those hate with his bias vision.

[@adityavalaboju516]

1:38:07 you are saying sore words are not allowed and we should ban them . What if religious people ban your channel for blasphemy saying the same thing ? Why you don’t support freedom of speech ? 😢

[@vimohlive]

I said swear words are not allowed on this channel. If religious people want to ban what they consider blasphemy on their channels, I don't have any problem.

[@srghhh5589]

Swear words are similar to blasphemous words lol. How very logical. Blasphemy is banned in India but there's no comment of freedom of speech about this illegal law.

[@Harrypotter-322]

Reincarnation reality hai bro India ka case hai Shanti Devi ka vo to sb proofs or facts ke sath hai ab just because atheist ho to in chizo ko ignore krdo even though it's proven then you need to change your prospective and see the reality

[@bsnsbsmsb5233]

i sell soil to devil

[@DanishAhmad-zq1do]

He said to watch ex muslims to debunk the prophecies of muslim prophets, 😂😂 This is how to subtlety defer things you can't prove but belive

[@Lmao-truth-5670]

Bro he asked about scriptures which Vimoh is not interested in so he won't be able to give a proper answer as he hasn't read them. That has nothing to do with what you said

[@DanishAhmad-zq1do]

@@Lmao-truth-5670 Bro, Vimoh is confident about ex muslim debunking the claims made in a scripture. Indeed that's ironical that something he is not interested in or has ANY knowledge of, he makes claims related to that literally with no sense. And people just don't ask him a question, seems like he is baba of atheist.

[@Lmao-truth-5670]

@@DanishAhmad-zq1do no he made no claims regarding them It's you who is muddling both things

[@DanishAhmad-zq1do]

@@Lmao-truth-5670 That's why I called Vimoh as a baba of atheists, anyway you should get your chance to explain. Explain what he meant by his words, particularly @ 9:25

[@Lmao-truth-5670]

@@DanishAhmad-zq1do read my first reply

[@strangeryoutuber2897]

How to fool people. Get a Book in background. Talk little bit sensible. Then fully nonsense. Congratulations you have been fooled.

[@jagmeetjhajj]

The way they are talking about life being a dream, it is a very ineffective way to express advaita. Life isn't a dream in the same sense as we dream when we sleep. It is a dream in a different way. The ultimate reality cannot be experienced by an individual because an individual doesn't have the means to experience it. From the time you are born you have certain tendencies, which you are conditioned to as a human. As a child you cry and want your mother's nurture. As a teenager you start feeling attraction to opposite sex. You are bound to something, in every phase of your life from birth to death. As a grown man you want to earn livelihood and start a family. You see your life in relation to all of these things and they influence how you see yourself and others. I think advaita describes this as a dream, in the sense that it is removed from the actual ultimate reality. Ultimate reality is a reality which is removed from this conditioning. A reality where you completely see the limitations of your perception.

[@manojoy6913]

EXACTLY you stated yourself in last line. You have limited perception.

[@jagmeetjhajj]

@@manojoy6913 can you tell me where that is instead of just stating a vague opinion?

[@manojoy6913]

@@jagmeetjhajj Advaita means there's no one else except God of your choice. If that's the case why advait people bother world to change because according to their perception why are you trying to explain your god 🤣 do you think you are better than him. This is just a childish thought of yours which you even don't understand yourself. So it goes same towards dvait. Every religion is made to fool you, and you are doing excellent in that.

[@jagmeetjhajj]

@@manojoy6913 Advaita is not my concern. Advaita is just a way to reach truth. If it works for you then good, if not then you can reject it. You can use your own path. You misunderstanding the purpose of this philosophy, it is not to defend itself. I don't see it as a rigid dogma. If you do then it is your concern. As far as a god, I don't believe in it. Anyway it looks like you are not here to understand, but only here to Diss the Advaitis. I don't care about that. You can do your intellectual exercise for the rest of your life.

[@manojoy6913]

@@jagmeetjhajj 🤣 you didn't answer me? Advaita means there's only God, nothing else. You are doing word juggling. And you always use this word truth!!! What's that truth you have reached and how many of you have. Give data of that with proof. If you have truth why can't you show it to the world so that everyone follow it!!! It's just your imagination that you know something others don't. Agar koi Bhagwan Allah God hota to tumko kyu usko sabit karne aana padd Raha hai 🤣 does this ring Bell in your mind.

[@professionaltrader415]

Dear mohit altimate reality is called as God and no one can define it currently And vimoh once you dead after that whatever in your mind or as per your life it will vanish so it's ultimate dream .....

[@ISHWERRAY]

To god ye dream kyu dekh rha, entertainment k liye, god k apne aap me exist karne ka kya goal hai, so called god ka ultimate goal kya hai, wo kyu exist krta hai, agar wo exist nhi krta to kya hota,uske existence ka kya purpose hai ya dream world bnane ka kya purpose hai

[@professionaltrader415]

@@ISHWERRAY dear god means nothing you can't allow any border on that we can't imagine it bcz jab bhi ham kuch bhi image karenge wo limited hoga uski boundaries hogi Ye chiz samjane ke liye pehle tumhe khud ko samaj na hoga actually tum apni imagination se god banate ho fir usme kami nikaloge par ye nahi dekh pate tum ki god tumhari imagination he

[@professionaltrader415]

@@ISHWERRAY example deta hu iskon vale kya kar rhe he krishna ke pass ye power thi ye unki leela thi ab but obvious he ki wo unki imagination he to usme limitations aayegi jisko wo defend nahi kar payenge yahi prblm hoti he jab bhi tum define karne jate ho god ko halaki god he ya nahi iska javab to yahi he ki jesa tum sochte ho vesa koi god nahi he or jesa god he use tum define nahi kar sakte advait ka matlab yahi hota he ki tum ho to imagination he agar tum nahi to kuch bhi nahi

[@professionaltrader415]

@@ISHWERRAY thoda or deeply karta hu agar koi dekhne wala he tabhi koi cheez ho sakti he agar koi dekhne vala nahi he to kuch nahi ho sakta ye matlab hota he adwait ka Science ka experiment he or abhi ka dava he ki Jab koi cheez ko tum dekhte ho tab wo alag behave karti he or jab nahi dekhte to wo alag behave karti he Mere pass ye article nahi pada par agar tumhe janna he to search karo mil jayega

[@professionaltrader415]

@@ISHWERRAY finally yahi kahunga jis din tum advait samaj gaye or jis din tum aham bramhashmi samaj gaye tumhe bahut kuch clear ho jayega

[@satishboda]

God is Perception. God is experience. God is imagination. God is consciousness. Our experience can be categorised in 3 categories - waking world, dream world, deep sleep world. There is 4th stage which is beyond the 3 worlds where there is nothing. The 4th stage makes one realise that the reality that I experience is my own creation. I had experienced 4th stage. It is like experience of NOTHINGNESS.

[@chethanburre6016]

I experienced the 5th stage, I had a Universal Experience.

[@satishboda]

@@chethanburre6016 There is no 5th stage. You are mocking me. The 4th stage is non-duality. Non-duality means atheism.

[@chethanburre6016]

@@satishboda Well, there's no 2nd stage, you're mocking all of us. There is just reality as far as we know. You STARTED making levels.

[@satishboda]

@@chethanburre6016 Consciousness is undivided, so there is only one stage.The division is merely an observation of our experience. This is how you research a topic. Everybody experiences the same conciousness but each individual perceives differently due to their manipulated senses.

[@adityajha9665]

God is everything. पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदम् । If the ultimate reality is nothing , then why did this world or māyā come into existence.? Māyā is also brahma , it is inseparable . The lack of knowledge of the Nirguṇa Nirākara Brahma is ajñāna ( of course,mayā is visible through our senses , so it's tangible) . At the same time , the lack of knowledge of māyā is also ajñāna . Sometimes, māyā also become intangible and obscurious to our senses . , But the jñāna of both Nirguṇa and saguṇa Brahma is Moksha . Once again , both are inseparable. But we understand both as two different things because of rules laws and constraints of the Māyā.

[@professionaltrader415]

Dear mohit i can understand your pain but for betterment of yourself dont trust anyone above nature law Second investigate what is ahm bhramashmi Third betterly understand adwait Forth try to get idea what that mad guy krishna says 1 i am everywhere and without my interest nothing will change 2 dont focus on result just focus on work This both statement in geeta was there and both are correct but contraindicated Once you get clear idea you will get complete understanding of adwait and you betterly make vimoh to understand ....... And if i get chanse definitely i will try than you may also get clarity but here i may get problem to make my complete statement bcz for that i need some time without interption