Vince Gilligan at the WZB - a conversation about economics and morality

[@Art-ifishl_Intelligence]

Vince is the cutest and most noble, a total gentleman, he never takes enough credit and is always ready to give it to others, more than it's due, very rare in Hollywood and in life in general!! Kudos!

[@jamese8825]

I wish Vince Gilligan would do audio books....His voice is like warm butter

[@abeltesfaye_]

Him, Samuel L Jackson, Jim Carrey Morgan Freeman, etc, are the BEST narrators in the world

[@Lsi581]

Really? Think your on about the other guy not vince

[@jacklawpants7944]

@@abeltesfaye_ I could not agree more.

[@andyspendlove1019]

Definitely just octupled the amount of times I've heard the word "dramaturgical" in my life.

[@Qwazin]

As much as he tries to not take credit for ideas that he didn't come up with, he DID have the authority to shut it down if he thought it would interfere with his vision. Vince's genius is that he always saw the potential in other's perspectives and adding layers to the story, which I think is what makes Breaking Bad not just a great show but a fantastic show.

[@ISolomonTruth]

It feels like they initially tried to force a focus on economics that Vince Gilligan did not really have when creating the show. Interesting interview none the less.

[@BasteonSanton]

Commenting on 8 year old comments is probably like trying to hug the wind but I'm gonna push back on the idea that Vince was just telling a story. I know that's the line he gives and he is the writer however economics and morality are inescapable facets of the human condition. Money is an unavoidable magnetic field in a modern society. There's just no way around the way it organizes people and our lives. I take your point though. Vince wasn't oblique about these themes and I found the conversation interesting as well. It's basically a critical theory analysis of my favorite TV show

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

A British dramaturgist, a German economist, and an American TV writer walk into the WZB.... .... no punchline, it's just a thing that happened. I love it. This is what good stories can do: they bring people who otherwise would have very little in common together and get them talking about everything from Dickens to the American Dream to healthcare. I love that this happened.

[@KenFehling]

Conversation starts at 10:25

[@andrewacornwell8678]

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[@hollywhite6637]

Multiple interpretations do not "debase" art.

[@Mauser91]

Good talk. Although it irritated me particular when Peter Jonas tried to debase the Series by even suggesting that it involved "social critique." Breaking Bad, I believe, should be about immutable values and individual disposition, not relativistic political meandering.

[@lukecockburn1140]

I don't think it had a agenda because it's way way more pure than that But for example the police happen to be terrible on the show & loose immorally at almost every stage there involved It's not a direct criticism but a observable problem in that world I don't even think they necessarily criticised private healthcare so I don't believe it has a explicitly agenda but does critic whatever it critics to the extent it mirrors reality I'm not sure about these thoughts just putting it out there

[@jojonnyjones]

Great! Very interesting talk

[@danielyoung6630]

VINCE KEEP THAT WRITING COMING, BRAVO!

[@TRIPP5_Shurikens]

It is disturbing that an economist is so compartmentalized philosophically that he's easily taken in by the obvious falsity of Walt's psuedo-ego and labels the short-term highs Walt gets from his misdeeds as "positives". What's worse is they're nearly all that way.

[@punchypun]

Thank you for that unique opportunity and the inspiring conversation at WZB!

[@JG-ld4rs]

Fun drinking game: take a shot every time you hear dramaturgical

[@stuckonautomatic]

Those are arithmetic means. Given that national income is more equally distributed in the EU (substantially lower GINI), the actual median incomes are closer together. Also, the EU as a whole is quite heterogenous with the rather poor countries in the south east on the one hand and Scandinavia who have a very high per capita income despite very pronounced social policies on the other hand. Fwiw, some Arabian countries have high average incomes but these figures are dominated by oil billionaires.

[@outbackin]

great comparison you've made. Now that I have the show Derek in my head, I find it interesting how Ricky is a better guy in his fiction, whereas Vince Gilligan is a worse guy in his fiction.

[@HSAdestroy]

These guys are trying really hard to view BB as a political message, when Vince is right on the money: its a character study. And thats what makes it so compelling.

[@grggsctt]

There are some original questions asked here--just don't play the drinking game to the word 'dramaturgy'.

[@AB-80X]

That second question. What a clown.

[@Darklord1201FTW]

What’s your problem lmfao it was a great question. I just happened to know the answer because Vince has been asked it before... just going to show that it’s a good question...

[@Wtahc]

@@Darklord1201FTW capitalism XD

[@Darklord1201FTW]

@@Wtahc :D

[@Wtahc]

@@Darklord1201FTW ahhahaha are you going to cry about capitalism some more baby xD

[@Darklord1201FTW]

@@Wtahc :O

[@arthajith3187]

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[@maryelizabethkelley-bibra5553]

This is very cool.

[@airbusplt]

According to the book I cited, your a priori belief of a difference of income distribution between US and EU isn't true. Considering transfer payments aren't included in US income stats the GINI may distort the picture. Bottom line, Walt had choices. I think his nature, not the the "American Way," drove him to be Heisenburg.

[@LucasPreti]

"answer three questions at a time? what the hell? fuck it, i'll just answer the first one that comes up."

[@LePaulLalonde]

Hank may have thought it best if Jesse were murdered, but he didn't actually murder him, or anyone else, in cold blood. The contrast with Walter/Heisenberg couldn't be greater, though neither is all black or white.

[@tehdouglas1]

Its funny too because Ricky Gervais' American alternative, Steve Carrell, is also very modest.

[@TheSynking]

It's an act that has now taken the place of his personality. Fame is a mask that eats into the face, after all.

[@justforviews3802]

Questions are better than the cringe comic cons

[@TheSynking]

You need to watch more carefully then, ever since he crossed the pond he has become a product of Hollywood.

[@Hailtothegun]

You do know Ricky is a comedian, and being a comedian, tends to joke most of the time? In other words, it's an act.

[@Vizagoth]

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