[Vinesauce] Vinny - Demakes

[@vinesaucefullsauce]

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[@UltimatePerfection]

The Elden Ring and Resident Evil one was definitely made with GB Studio. I can recognize that crust anywhere.

[@mrtesticlease4638]

yeah can confirm they're crusty gbs games. not as crusty as most gbs games but there are few winners made with gbs honestly

[@warbossgegguz679]

11:29 When I said this, it kind of made me realize that zoomers DID actually grow up with the jaggy, 0 AA, low res polygon style of games, it just wasn't on consoles. But basically every DS game that uses 3D looks like a PS1 game, just without the texture warping (for the most part). So maybe that's part of why this visual style is nostalgic to so many people even if they didn't grow up in the 90s. Also, as aside about Spooktober, Moon and the first Dementium game were remade for the 3DS with circle pad pro support. Dementium 2 also got a PC port, but that was made after renegade kid went under (RIP Gregg Hargrove). Basically like Silent Hill/Condemned on a handheld for those unfamiliar.

[@steel5897]

Yes 3D NDS games 100% have that PS1 look. Higher res textures than N64, but with aliased and unstable image quality. I'm currently playing the DS version of FF4 and it'd be right at home as a PS1 FF game. Contrast this with its PC port which makes it look super clean and I kinda prefer the DS low res look in a way.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@steel5897 Yeah, I mean I never grew up with an N64 or PSX because I was like 3 by the time the GC and PS2 were out. I grew up playing my DS more than probably any other console though and since getting into retro games I always noticed the visual similarity to the PSX. the DS is 64 bit iirc, but crunching everything onto such a low rez screen without AA made the games look more like PSX games. Just with more polygons and better draw distance/performance.

[@none-ro9dz]

also a lot of poor ass zoomers (like myself) DID have ancient consoles because we couldn't afford the new fancy PS2

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@none-ro9dz All of the consoles I had growing up were gifts from relatives because my family was strapped for cash, but we did play with my cousin's hand-me-down SNES and a ton of bootleg plug and plays. Was actually my introduction to retro games, lol.

[@emi2922]

@@none-ro9dz i only had a pc so i used to emulate some console games, and i still play old games on emulators

[@LeudieBlues]

Shame most of the demakes didn't feel as promising as I hoped it'd be. But the Luigi Mansion Metroidvania and the RE4 demake were great to see.

[@macuser7048]

The Game Boy ones were more like unfinished demos.

[@snestendo]

They're probably not that bad, but it is a Vinny showcase so you probably get the worst showing of some of them lol

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@macuser7048 I mean that's literally what they are for the most part.

[@Superteletubbies64]

The segment was supposed to be paired with fangames, I really wanted to see them

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@Superteletubbies64 I feel like for the most part these ARE just fan games rather than demakes, because outside of the Dead Space and Luigi's Mansion ones (and MAYBE the ER one if I'm being generous) they dont really try to replicate the same experience on lower end hardware, but are sort of just their own things. They're more just totally different games themed after another franchise. When I hear "demake" I think of stuff like the early versions of Retro City Rampage or the stuff people make for the Pico 8, or even just weird ports to lower end hardware (like 2D genesis Virtua Fighter 2). Bioevil 4 is awesome but it's more metal slug than RE, and the other RE demake is painful. And the creepypasta 3 spooky 5 me game doesn't count.

[@Platinum8D]

This is such a cool concept. Hope to see Vin play more Demakes, I've always loved em

[@ex_philemon]

They should do a Pong demake that would be cool

[@alexello1189]

That sounds like competitive Telegramming aka Morse code signals back and forth

[@anons_anonymous]

so....... tennis?

[@alexello1189]

@@anons_anonymous nah to still be a demake it has to be some form of electric game. Tennis is just a sport sadly….

[@nouhorni3229]

Call it Ong.

[@sanachanto]

Pong demake is just air hockey

[@Duskool]

Unsure if Harvest Festival fits here, since Animal Crossing already has a game on the N64

[@aturchomicz821]

I love to imagine that this was made by an ignorant Westerner who thought they were so clever thinking "What if AC but on 64??111?!?" , you know, while being seemingly completely unaware of the fact that Doubutsu no Mori was an actual game💀💀

[@masterowl123]

did you watch the whole video?

[@aturchomicz821]

@@elliot_rat I watched this segment live but ok

[@ArtUndertheArch]

I LOVE demakes - this is gonna be good!

[@SpaceSkeletonDragon]

Wow that Dead Space demake looked great

[@macuser7048]

There now exists a Resident Evil 3 rom hack of Popeye on NES.

[@4Wilko]

"Resident Evil 3: Chibi Edition" Nice.

[@FoxTashikata]

LMAO 30:28 Vinny does a solid Dan Aykroyd impression during a bit. Very good

[@jackdaft258]

Harvest Festival 64 is so obviously a horror game masquerading as a cutesie game right off the bat.

[@umamifan]

It didn’t even try to be subtle about it. And not only that, but the horror is just lame. Next!

[@theonlybilge]

That first Resident Evil one was just sad.

[@warbossgegguz679]

The minute it went for the "wacky self-aware" route I totally zoned out.

[@KhumboSharma]

apparently it did have gameplay, vinny just never got to it. but yeah it wasn't really funny at all

[@gnbman]

I'd like to see more demakes on this channel. Vinny could react to demakes that are only concept trailers as well, such as the Death Stranding and Tears of the Kingdom ones.

[@Patodeagua213]

The luigi mansion one bring back so many memories

[@thematthew4324]

The second I saw that fact that every was cats I knew the animal crossing thing was a horror game

[@Borti_Ovi]

49:26 “Vinny will play Orc Massage but will never play X” I thought we were past that joke!

[@hecticscone]

joke?

[@RadikAlice]

Here at Vinesauce, stream bits never end!

[@hecticscone]

@@RadikAlice This is the bit that never ends! Yes, it goes on and on, my friends!

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@hecticscone some people started saying it not knowing what it was! And they'll continue saying it forever just because...

[@ryancurtis5425]

I think my first run-in with concept of remakes was Gang Garrison 2, a side scrolling shooter version of TF2. It was also my first experience with Cave Story, because Quote is a secret character.

[@Vyzard]

Thanks for putting the game links in the video description, that's my weekend sorted lol. The Harvest Fest game reminded me of another time Vinny played GameTheoryLoreBait spoopy game, but I can't recall which because the twitch VOD got deleted

[@HellfireComms]

I would play the shit outta that Luigi's Mansion demake.

[@iconsumelead2173]

46:08 I'm that chatter. Spend 3k of my brain cells for that. :)

[@pyro380]

23:24 Man, I wish Vinny would freestyle-rap on this dope-ass track.

[@IIITrunks]

I love demakes. I pray for the day theres a reasonably playable Monster Hunter demake. Id enjoy that gameplay loop on any platform

[@luheartswarm4573]

I just love how the characters in the resi demake got very dumb it's perfect!

[@SmashedTomatoes]

I'm currently De-Re-Making Animal Crossing, so I might send it over whenever I feel it's more finalized.

[@sanachanto]

Interesting, I’m curious what style you’re going for. NH on the original gamecube/64? Original on Gameboy?

[@SmashedTomatoes]

@@sanachanto Original on Switch? I guess I'm trying to give the project its own bit of personality and style, so I ended up going for the scope and world generation of 64 with the graphic style of a switch/PC game.

[@warbossgegguz679]

If I might, I'd recommend going for a SNES style, as honestly Animal Crossing would fit fine along side something like the OG harvest moon.

[@4Wilko]

Grim Beginnings made me think it was from the prime Newgrounds era of RE fan animations. 27:00 - Luigi's BGM.

[@Kryptnyt]

The GBA version of Fire Emblem Echoes is pretty nice if you want to do this kind of thing again in the future.

[@stilldamaged3945]

there also as a gba demake of fe16

[@ImmaLittlePip]

Also a Demake of awakening Also shout out to Gang Garrison

[@michaelslowmin]

I wonder if Vinny would ever play the NES FF7 demake.

[@torchiereful]

6:24 grimby

[@scootaluigi9381]

>PS1 styled demake >Per pixel lighting instead of handpainted vertex shading My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@epoch151 there was no VHS filter over the Dead Space fan game... you want someone to literally remake it from the ground up for a real PSX, go right ahead.

[@stevethepocket]

I'm not sure what you mean; the flashlight was definitely done using (real-time) vertex lighting, which... I am fairly certain I have seen PSX games with flashlights that worked that way. _Silent Hill_ maybe?

[@luheartswarm4573]

now that's just like, asking unity devs, to do a game in pure c (obviously doable, most games where to a point in recent history, specially now with the recent c standard, and on pc you can do memory management stuff like malloc and calloc, floating point math (that wasnt a thing on ps1 hardware, it was integer only, that explains the stiffer animation, and forget your mallocs and callocs) you have full use of the suit, you can do modern opengl on c still wich is awesome, but now Im going on a stupid nerd tangent... All of it being said, that ain't happening chief, too much work for some people.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@stevethepocket yeah, real time vertex lighting was a thing on the PSX and N64. Famously that's the REAL reason DK64 came with the expansion pack. Not to mention stuff like Doom PSX/Doom 64, so idk what OP is on about.

[@JacobKinsley]

@@epoch151 Just say puppet combo.

[@crimsonlanceman7882]

I love the stupid trees RE demake, I resonate with them on a spiritual level.

[@picawood]

Capcom could pull a megaman vs street fighter move on the bioevil4

[@aidencgg]

Lego Star Wars 2 is the shitty DS one, I remember that being a fever dream to play. I have a core memory of it visually corrupting itself (it might have been a cheat) in my dads van at a motorcross track or something in like 2009 lol

[@meatmobile]

Lego star wars the complete saga was so fucking weird to play on the ds

[@aidencgg]

@@meatmobile yeah that one too although it was much less buggy. My friend had it on console and I was blown away lol

[@warbossgegguz679]

Complete saga was stable but definitely truncated and lame next to the console version, but I took what I could get.

[@ownerofanheartofthesunrise]

oh boy that game is such a mess... You can break so easily just by using free play and exploring parts you where not supposed to, like in the level where Vador kills Kenobi you can fall in a pit and not die and you're just stuck there, i remember glitching myself into falling OOB infinitly in Cloud City with Luke because the collision of the wall side of an elevator was missing, also for some reason Jabba's palace is beyond effed up and you can't collect a minikit therefore rendering 100% impossible. But that's only a part of it. It's an experience, alright.

[@C-Lister97]

I'm STILL upset that Vinny played Orc Massage over HLD AND that he streamed Orc Massage but never finished it

[@warbossgegguz679]

HLD?

[@totallynotatoucan7364]

​​@@warbossgegguz679 hyper light drifter mayhaps? Great game btw

[@Felecc]

Grimby Ginnings

[@Rubbly]

having just seen the very intro of Super Harvest, it's gonna be some GOREY stuff all of a sudden huh "the last person just moved out" lmao

[@DaysofOblivion]

the Final Fantasy 7 Nes Demake that I saw recently, was surprisingly decent and not bad

[@warbossgegguz679]

That's because fans decided to patch it to be not-trash,. The pieces were there in the original hack, but it was full of chinglish and glitchy af. Also, it's worth noting that it doesn't use ATB like the OG FF7, its just traditional turn-based like FF1-3 (which I actually prefer).

[@pac45x]

The punchline/twist of the harvest festival game isn’t even good, it’s just nothing

[@super8bitable]

You could say that it’s a “flatline”

[@JTSYoRHa]

@@super8bitable is this a + or - 2

[@warbossgegguz679]

Because it's a "twist" that's obvious from the minute you start the game. Really give off that early 2010s creepypasta "evil nintendo game" vibe, as do most attempts at "analog horror" in indie games lately.

[@larrymantic2635]

It’s always horror shite in seemingly innocent games…

[@super8bitable]

@@JTSYoRHa idk

[@b.j.cobbledick4914]

Really surprised vinny didnt play the left 4 dead demake. What a shame.

[@mask-mimic]

13:09 GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

[@TheHappyFaceKing]

Yo! Awesome!

[@AliC202]

Vinny should try Legend of Princess

[@dopesheepify]

There was a “resident evil gaiden” released for Gameboy Color after the cancelled one

[@Badgerpaw]

I don't know anything about RE4, why did the Texas Chainsaw man have a mouse tied to the ceiling?

[@VashVicious2]

I just realized that dark souls and eldin ring boss battles are just bullet hells in 3D

[@crimsonlanceman7882]

with i-frames

[@Spewa-em8cm]

The Elden Ring, RE1, and Harvest Festival ones were just kinda sad.

[@bl00dberry]

the wesker sprite was killing me ngl

[@maplebrownsgr]

i wonder what spiderman for ps4 would look like on the game boy color

[@serv-on]

Not sure why he wasnt using a controller with just keyboard binds

[@Scroteydada]

Deemuks

[@Forever_Zero]

Bioevil 4 has no right to be that good, I would pay good money for a full game like that. Also I he plays FFVII demake next time

[@warbossgegguz679]

I'm not sure if that counts as a demake, a bootleg, or both. I played the hacked version that makes it more accurate to the real game though and yeah, it's honestly impressive.

[@FoxTashikata]

I may have to play that Elden Ring demake. My PC can't handle ER so Ill take ER at Home

[@Lucas-db2jq]

13:24 What "exclusive, secret" Mario & Luigi video is he talking about? Is he posting these to OnlyFans or something?

[@Gamxin]

Commenting in case someone answers

[@HonestlyJustSomeGuy]

Check the latest main channel video.

[@csgocozener7685]

No FF7 NES???????

[@forsteri8021]

Those GB studio like games at the beginning really tarnish the reputation for the subgenre. The same way the countless RPG maker games do for say, RPGs or visual novels

[@sonicloverlol]

No stop no mous

[@nanomario]

Back when the game was the game

[@aturchomicz821]

What a truly ignorant thought process this is though lol

[@mongrel_97]

pingas

[@ErickGameplaysN64]

7:41 Where's this shitty trumpet from? I've heard it in multiple places before

[@HamazuraGOD]

It's from the Resident Evil Dual Shock Edition soundtrack

[@KhumboSharma]

@@HamazuraGOD mansion basement specifically

[@Rafagafanhotobra]

Try Gang Garrison 2 next time. Team Fortress 2's demake.

[@fullfrontalerror1581]

Has he tried portal64

[@stevethepocket]

Is it even out yet? As far as I know, the developer is still working stuff out and just posting progress videos.

[@fullfrontalerror1581]

@@stevethepocket Yea there's even been videos of it running on real N64's

[@sonicloverlol]

No stop caling her llike this

[@sonicloverlol]

Its stupid

[@MrFRNTIK]

Yuck, that Gameboy Elden ring with the NES sound chip. Do people just think all older consoles run, look, and sound like an atari?

[@MrFRNTIK]

Ok I actually had the Gameboy advance in my mind but I've seen OG Gameboy games do better

[@warbossgegguz679]

Was gonna ask wtf you meant. The GB had more sound channels than the NES because it had to support stereo for headphones, but it's still an 8bit sound chip. And yeah, really it wasn't until the DS that handheld sound chips were anything to write home about. The Game Gear has a pretty good one, but that's because it's basically a master system trimmed into a handheld. The GB/GBC, NGP, Wonderswan, and GBA though... eh.

[@Superteletubbies64]

I’ve been really waiting for this segment since it got shafted over a month ago and I honestly have to say I’m a little underwhelmed but I hope there’ll be more in another sunday stream, also the fangames part I was more excited for was missing