[Vinesauce] Vinny - Nintendo 64 Prototypes

[@This-Was-Sparta]

"Publisher logo 1 (to be supplied)" Not sure why, but I really like seeing that for some reason. Gives an insight you'd otherwise never get.

[@ineedprofessionalhelp]

@@alberto_balsalm_ I was incredibly confused until I saw the profile pics

[@mayiwatchlater2699]

Gem

[@This-Was-Sparta]

@@alberto_balsalm_ Lmao, took me a second as well. Good stuff.

[@klimpomp]

My dude I think you'd really like to look at the notes left in game code by Devs. Often to other Devs or just about why certain bits are the way they are. Often offers an insight into the madness. I recall one being something similar to "this is stupid and awful way to do this but it's the only way that works."

[@mongrel_97]

@@klimpomp there's a block of code (algorithm?) in DOOMs source whihc has a comment by it just saying "what the fuck???" since they didnt really know what it did, but it was something to do with how walls are rendered to give them a 3D look. or something like that i forget the details.

[@SuperWiiBros08]

Why do cancelled/prototype N64 games look so awesome and unique and fun

[@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143]

Well, Miyamoto told Rare to change this one into a Star Fox game since they knew that Rare was going to Microsoft, so they wanted their last IP to be a Nintendo franchise so Microsoft could not take ownership of the game. This game was meant to push the boundaries of the N64, and people were agog when they saw this game at E3.

[@monotonecthulhu6709]

Because if you're being honest, the majority of n64 games aren't good and its just exciting to see n64 games that could've been

[@ronindebeatrice]

They look a lot better when they're not blurred messes: i.e. when they're running emulated.

[@Degdreams]

@@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143 Sounds far fetched and scummy... definitely something Nintendo would do.

[@racheltiffany9892]

That's why they got cancelled, too much fun

[@Rick586]

Imagine being a kid who loves dinosaurs and getting Dinosaur Planet. 40 minutes in and you've only seen five dinosaurs, two of which you've had to watch die.

[@doclouis4236]

Imagine being a kid and getting Turok instead.

[@tannertadlock7741]

@@doclouis4236 a thousand or more screams can be heard

[@LuC-k777]

I was that kid though I was born a few years later I would have loved to watch and or play this

[@ianv.1470]

Imagine playing the god awful version they released.

[@ChReNiC]

Imagine being a kid who loves Star Fox and getting Star Fox Adventures 40 minutes in and you've flown your Arwing once, and it was for like a minute at best.

[@herosshade2247]

First ten minutes of Dinosaur Planet feels like it was written by AI Dungeon. Krystal is flying on a pterodactyl mentioning a wizard and a floating mountain, and all of a sudden a flying ship with a living dinosaur head shows up, a giant lizard man busts through a door, makes some threats, grabs a cage and is struck by lightning, screams in pain but then laughs and teleports away. Are we just not even gonna talk about that whole incoherent sequence?

[@DPedroBoh]

"A lizard despot named scales" would be a very normal thing for AI dungeon to come up with, at this point.

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

"Grabs a cage and is struck by lightning, screams in pain but then laughs and teleports away" is super AI dungeon

[@knoxrobbins]

The fact that we have a build of Dinosaur Planet on hand and people are working on reverse engineer into a more playable form soon is kind of a miracle. A lot of what Vinny played on stream is very close what was polished for Star Fox Adventures but there's charming the way it plays and looks thru the N64 hardware. The fact that it was near complete anyway kind of makes me wish they finished what they had and released it on both systems, even with the major performance differences.

[@darktrooper6857]

Shoutouts to that part of the stream where Vinny rants about James Bond and actually loses his mind

[@jopdancing7320]

timestamp ?

[@blazzzeboy]

I can't believe vinny didn't notice the crosses on the gravestones at 1:32:15, he talks about the cross and religious implications in Hyrule in one of his Zelda 2 runs and its weird to see it present all the way up to Ocarina of Time

[@warbossgegguz679]

Japan doesn't really have christianity outside of small pockets like Nagasaki, so it's seen in the same mystic light westerners see eastern religion/philosophy over there... but they also don't have evangelical Shintoists, so unfortunately they felt the need to change that shit when they localized it. Ironically, a lot of christian zoomers and zoomer converts (myself included) find stuff like the religion in Dragon Quest and Christian elements in Zelda to be cool rather than "sinful". At least CV didn't change anything... until they let a neckbeard fedora write the anime 🙄

[@KOTEBANAROT]

@@warbossgegguz679 good thing they changed it, zelda has its own really cool lore, crosses feel so generic

[@AirshBornely]

@@warbossgegguz679 Yeah I've always found crosses in video games to be cool. Especially NES Link shield.

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@KOTEBANAROT except integrating christianity into European folklore would be something that hasn't really been done in videogames... despite Arthurian lore EXPLICITLY referencing catholicism. Please name me another game that really does that before you tell me it's "generic"? You've got Dante's Inferno and...

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@warbossgegguz679 It's less they felt like they needed to change it when they localized it than it is that Miyamoto in particular decided to take the series in a different direction. Christianity was the de facto intended religion up until about halfway into the development of A Link to the Past, and there is a picture of Link kneeling in front of a crucifix used as promo art for it that slipped through. Ocarina of Time likely just used a generic texture for the gravestones that got replaced when the stones themselves got redesigned. They were likely never intended to be the final design, unless it's a holdover from when OOT was going to be a recon reimagining of Zelda 2.

[@ChaoticPochi]

rare has a whole smorgasbord of games at different dev builds due to the consoles they were being developed for swapping so many times. for example kameo was produced for the n64, then the gamecube, switched over to xbox because microsoft, and then finally got reworked to be a xbox360 launch title. dinosaur planet is such an amazing leak but i cant imagine just how many different builds they have of games for all sorts of consoles. hope we get to see more of them one day.

[@stevethepocket]

Geez. All that dev time and it still turned out just meh.

[@ChaoticPochi]

it was the microsoft buyout that really hindered it imo. it was originally a pokemon-like monster rancher game where you grew and trained the elemental dudes but microsoft wanted it to be an action beat-em-up, and then pushed for rare to have it released alongside the 360. not a 100% accurate recounting of its dev history but it's the gist of it

[@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853]

@@ChaoticPochi That's a real shame, a mons game created by Rare of all people sounds amazing.

[@takeoutfromchina3166]

I'm glad that we finally have Dinosaur Planet, and I'm hoping the long term sees fan content (and prior works) continue the marriage between the two. Maybe we'll see a day where the narrative issues of DP and the gameplay issues of SFA fixed into a cohesive game. After all, I can understand the predicament of this game's development and the likely outcome if it had stayed on the N64. The transition to the Gamecube and franchise was probably made by Rare Higher-ups to keep the company afloat, but as time would have it Nintendo forgot to update the brand agreement. Overall this game was the victim of time and place leading to a rushed final release; only if we had gotten the SFA beta. I'll leave the future of both series up to passionate fans, and maybe we can get something that surpasses the vision Rare had.

[@Mynestrone]

for MONTHS if not years: Dinosaur Planet would be a holy grail find and amazing to play. It would be better than starfox adventures. *10 minutes later* god, can I stop now?

[@stevethepocket]

"There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it." - Oscar Wilde

[@JomasterTheSecond]

I really hope someone mods Sabre back into Dinosaur Planet... even if he still calls himself Fox McCloud, the Royal Knight of the Lylat system.

[@KOTEBANAROT]

Already have, theres a patch available on Dinosaur Planet Finders Club discord server

[@JomasterTheSecond]

@@KOTEBANAROT BASED.

[@classymarowak7001]

Ocarina of Time (Zelda 64) did originally start as a "3D reimagining" of Zelda 2. This is why a good chunk of beta stuff has elements in a similar vein to Z2. (Graveyards and such.)

[@renakunisaki]

I think one of the first dungeons made for OoT was a remake of the first dungeon of Zelda 1. But it was probably only meant as a test, not intended to appear in the final game.

[@jedbrown153]

Vin, Dinosaur Planet runs at significantly higher frame rates on real hardware, especially at the Saber racing segment. Emulators have a lot of issues running a prototype like this.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Has anyone actually made a physical cart to play on real hardware?

[@microgamestation]

@@OtakuUnitedStudio People have used flash carts.

[@EmeraldZion]

Dinosaur planet reminds me of PS1 Spyro also when the framerate runs smoothly on that ice planet it honestly looks like an early ps2 game wow

[@lazy_figetspinner_from2228]

What if there was a nintendo game called spaceworld with a museum of nintendo games from spaceworld

[@TeruteruBozusama]

That'd be awesome... Spaceworld was also a Norwegian game store, they were really awesome in the early 2000s. But as online shopping became popular, they said that too many would buy online and... Gave up... So they started focusing only on phones, sound systems, and a handful of the newest PS4 and xbone games before going bankrupt... They more or less killed themselves... In Oslo they had a huge store! A retro floor, previous gen floor, 2 floors with current, and an import floor. I miss it...

[@gavinojames1]

i wish

[@elb0w]

Honestly? I kinda like n64 krystal's design wayyyy better. It's simple and cute. not cute in the way that people have come to think about krystal, but like... cute in that it'd make a good plush toy, or that she'd be fun to draw. I think starfox's design sensibilities were unbecoming of her (literally i guess) Like, she looks a lil wonky, but its an n64 rare game. she's a silly lil animal character

[@EthVortexShield]

A design that didnt kill a franchise.

[@MondoMurderface]

I understand the appeal of PS1's graphics. But N64 had some games that blew away anything on the PS at the time. Conker especially.. That game looked like a gamecube game almost.

[@triton199]

n64 had like 3x the processing power of the psone. some of the real late era n64 games werent far off the quality of early ps2 games, aside from the babby 4k texture limit lol.

[@elb0w]

Can you fucking imagine if we had gotten the disk based n64 like jeez it would've been gooooood

[@internetnobody6754]

Hottest take on the planet Earth: I love the water temple in ocarina of time

[@Makocat]

26:45 So this is the new Starwars character I've been hearing about.

[@diegomedina9637]

I love Maclanky.

[@DracoHandsome]

"Kreestal SCHUT. Kreestal puhLEEEEZ schut the KENNON. PROPELLER, kreestal why you no SCHUT" ~that pterodactyl in the intro "You have learned the SCHUT spell use it RIGHT NOW Kreestal PUHLEEEZ" ~First spell

[@beatpapes]

I love how one person is dreaming about the same giant water temple. It's like how I dreamed of a place that after that, I now have found an artwork that looks like it, also my banner art. Dreams that predict future events are eerie.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

I don't think it's a "prediction" as much as a corruption of something that's already been experienced.

[@JacobKinsley]

The incel "mario 64 personalised" vs the Chad "ocarina of time but levels from your dreams"

[@spiralgodking9877]

The Sky Temple. (Which is ironic because so many years later we get the Sky Temple in Skyward Sword.)

[@ArcadianLegend]

I still think back to that now super old and crusty Light Temple hoax from back in the day.

[@JacobKinsley]

@@ArcadianLegend as a kid I got stuck at the Gerudo valley temple because I didn't understand the concept of coming back as young link, so I just searched desperately for another dungeon that would give me the item needed. The thing was, I played for about 2 years. I was somehow convinced there was another dungeon. I thought I had to like, climb over the edge of hyrule field to find something like a forest shrine mini dungeon with a staff which made you smaller. That isn't related to what you said whatsoever but I just thought I'd mention it. 1:51:53 for where I thought the next dungeon was

[@fireglo450music]

26:20 "Hello, Mr. Volcano!" "Good Morning, Tyrannosaurus Allen!"

[@adamsandlerchair737]

I really enjoy these types of videos where Vinny looks into the past of what could've been and what things were at the time to be. Like with the Half-Life 2 betas stream.

[@gameboycolor47]

seeing the zelda prototype is so interesting. it's also very funny to see the the basic area's that clearly artists went "Yeah this is ugly as sin we need to fix this" Also I remember lurking one of the discords zel was in when he was getting this maps working and seeing the finish product covered by vinny of all people is really cool.

[@fnln3011]

1:31:39 didn't expect the fall of castle town to be quite that fast

[@reddog4843]

This is amazing. I was young enough to actually enjoy starfox adventures with a child's eye. Thanks Vinny!

[@WDWatameVirus]

By far my favorite Vinesauce stream of all 2021 for now, currently rewatching it for the 6th time I think, I always have loved so much Beta/Prototyoe things and watching Vinny trying them is amazing, I really hope he does this again one day, when more things are found during leaks or inside internet's vault

[@bokagoofy]

This makes me really nostalgic to back in the day, seeing screenshots of Zelda 64 and Dinosaur Planet in the N64 Magazine, Gods I was strong then!

[@awildcommenter7240]

I’ve been waiting for this

[@SamLovesMovies25]

Personally, I’ve always loved Star Fox Adventures as a fun Zelda-type adventure game because those are the kinds of games I was interested in/enjoyed and I didn’t have any particular connection to Star Fox. I do understand how it is a very bad fit for the Star Fox series and I agree it would have been better as its own Dinosaur Planet game, and the final game has some obnoxious elements such as some frustrating mini games and backtracking, but man the GameCube version looks so pretty, much nicer graphics than the N64 honestly, as well as the lovely music by David Wise

[@lethauntic]

1:29:12 I'm genuinely curious about this. How many of us have played a childhood game several times after... You know, being a child, yet retained 'nostalgia'? There are games that used to be that way for me, but I've played them many times over the years. So while I still do have special memories affiliated with the game and all that, it doesn't give me that patented "nostalgia feeling" that you normally would get. I guess that Vinny hasn't played the original Ocarina of Time in a long, long time to still be nostalgic about it, though.

[@PoppySquidJr]

There are game's I've replayed nearly every other year or so... still nostalgic every single time. Hell I have nostalgia for New Vegas, and I was in high school when I first played it and replay it *more* than once a year lmao

[@stevethepocket]

24:58 Speaking of stock sound effects, that cricket-like noise was also used for the antlion grubs in Half-Life 2 Episode Two.

[@SilentVinyl]

Stair Fax Temperatures

[@TallTapper]

very nice stuff vinny

[@Kaenbyou777Rin]

the dinosaur planet music sounds really cool

[@DracoHandsome]

does Phoox MacSword really have the same exact fucking voice samples they kept for him in SF:A oh my god

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Why not? Rerecording them would mean they'd have to pay the actor to basically do the same sounds all over again.

[@DracoHandsome]

@@OtakuUnitedStudio It indicates what a rushed jury-rig it was to turn (this version of) Dinosaur Planet into SF:A If they had made any substantial changes, they would've needed new dialogue lines Depending on how long that took, new dialogue lines are not guaranteed to have the same editing quality as the old lines. So, even if they were able to get the same vocal talent, they'd need to re-record or at least remaster everything so that the quality was consistent They didn't, because the game didn't change enough to warrant it, or they lacked the time/money to do so

[@charliewythe5540]

18:09 Dr Carrington’s voice actor 💪

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

I don’t like how barren the Zelda 64 prototype is.

[@diegomedina9637]

That's because only the map data was intact without actors other than their placements of said actors on the maps. This was just a quick "let just import the map data into OOT real quick" type of deal. There's actually videos of people importing actors from OOT into the old maps but I think there's no patch available online.

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

@@diegomedina9637 Yeah. I’m just saying it makes me feel uneasy.

[@vincentjonesvr]

I wish you'd waited for Zel today release his Zelda restoration instead of going with this version from z64me.

[@vincentjonesvr]

Nobody in the community is terribly stoked with this version.

[@vincentjonesvr]

He also has maps misidentified. That's not the fishing pond, it's an early Zora's Fountain.

[@ulqinaku8471]

can’t wait for ps1 prototype

[@raxes1144]

13:50 That sound is when they sense ki in dbz

[@Pokestein1]

Was there the Arwing test in here?

[@spiralgodking9877]

Both Krystals are cute, but I do love SFA Krystal because of Star Wars Leia reference. (Binty blay Staa fax adbentures, bleese~!!!)

[@ethereall187]

swedish giga collector

[@AlexDeLarge1]

Rare's N64 adventure games control like you're playing a cartoon. You don't see games with controls like that anymore. I miss it.

[@Damonj17]

49:37 does this gun use the same sound as the halflife 2 smg?

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Likely came from the same common sound library.

[@midnight_purple5461]

Damn vinny that basement music woke up my cat

[@zangl2955]

I’m with vinny on this. I don’t wish starfox adventure was a better starfox game, I wish it was a pure, unchanged rareware dino adventure. Woulda been sick to see this fully fleshed out.

[@nickm5419]

Perfect Dark and Dinosaur planet was Rare at their best

[@Netskayt]

Ah yes, Fawks Mclood, the best nintonder mascot

[@v1rtuosoviolinist]

vinny try crow 64 (or catastrophe crow) i promise it doesnt have dark lore

[@AlexDeLarge1]

Now that the source code for the N64 has been leaked, people should be able to make Dinosaur Planet 60fps.

[@sonsauvage]

Just in time

[@AngelOfRuko]

I actually really love Starfox Adventures despite its goofiness - it always had a really magical quality to it when I was a kid. Shame about Dinosaur Planet though

[@ChaoticDarkness1]

Early Hyrule field looks neat even if it is a bit empty

[@thecatrooms]

The wizard is just vinnys Scottish accent

[@MxArgent]

Viewpoint 2064 cribs some notes from RayForce. Hmm.

[@GBlastMan]

"MY NAME IS GUN, JAMES GUN"

[@nintendawesome]

thats really cool that the water temple used to be an underwater pagoda, its a shame it was just too huge n they had to shave it down to just a pillar

[@auralunaprettycure]

Viewpoint 2064 is criminally underrated and I will not be taking criticism at this time

[@BlackBloodCombatClub]

24:25 Kite :(

[@elusiveurge]

1:28:15 that was so amazing.

[@ZerberusKnight]

OOK TARUK NOOK BUK Genahrel Scay-ales

[@wolfnation100]

just wait until n64 mother 3 stuff is found......

[@carrotjuice1225]

I would have loved this game as a kid. Fuccccc

[@LittleNamMan]

*Unpopular Opinion:* I actually really liked Star Fox Adventures

[@Sodaholic6502]

Does anyone else think this version of Krystal is a lot better?

[@megamode]

A good girl with clothing on.

[@ZeroFische]

No

[@Sodaholic6502]

@@megamode This is exactly why it's better. She's modest. The SFA design was too sexualized, and no wonder it became furry smut material. That, and the face is just simply cuter and more innocent looking.

[@Sodaholic6502]

@@ZeroFische Your opinion is invalid, only my opinion is valid. This is objective fact.

[@SuborbitalPigeon]

The impression of Limmy is quite impressive in the fact the accent seems to travel all across the country, but somehow completely misses Glasgow. Very funny though.

[@Cesaille]

I just bolted up because Vinny made rat noises and I thought it was my cat jesus christ that scared me - don't fall asleep go Vinny vids

[@MrMENOVA]

3:43 Vinny doesn't notice the Nazi symbol on the air ship. WTF

[@MechaDogJumper18]

Link Goes To The Suburbs

[@Cuck-Lord]

In 20 years we'll get beta version of breath of the wild

[@gavinojames1]

early botw actually looked interesting

[@sakurakasugano5748]

@@gavinojames1 would love to see what the magic meter was used for

[@canaconn2388]

@@sakurakasugano5748 magic

[@mauricerichardson4976]

Dinosaur Planet needs to be on the Nintendo switch. The original version not the star fox adventures version. KRYSTAL DESERVES HER VERY OWN GAME.

[@Geno746]

How finished was Dinosaur Planet?

[@microgamestation]

Not terribly. The version leaked seems to be a vertical slice of the first hour or so.

[@Geno746]

@@microgamestation That's still interesting. Might need to check it out for myself. I find it interesting with stuff like that.

[@hatad321]

@@microgamestation I think it's more than that, but there's glitches that don't allow progress. Community patches are being worked on.

[@DragonSoulMusic]

18:20 what the, was that... jiggle physics? In a N64 game? Wtf?

[@Synistar]

Yep, they knew what they were doing

[@toxic_shr00m]

Man Krystal's original design was much more cute than her final design; way less sexualized.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Also younger. IIRC she's supposed to be between 10 and 12 in this build. She's 19 in SFA.

[@toxic_shr00m]

@@OtakuUnitedStudio I much prefer this, because it gives better to the triumph of overcoming a tyrant conqueror.

[@diegomedina9637]

That didn't stopped Chat from cooming.

[@EightiethRaptor]

quest 64 was great

[@breeze2082]

Ah the legendary power of speaking Japanese

[@nuttguzzler4945]

1:09:39 Vinny goes full Ben Shapiro talking speed

[@wantedwario2621]

15:57 Vinny manages to not only be completely oblivious to all tutorials, but he also manages to break the game in a way that not even the Dinosaur Planet bug team, who has been playing the leak since day one, had found.

[@jazz8000]

I think he solved the puzzle before the game actually wanted the player to do so.

[@wantedwario2621]

@@jazz8000 The puzzle was completed, but the object that was "holding down the switch" wasn't on it correctly, so it was playing the sound, but wasn't on it in a way to hold down the switch, so it was just playing the puzzle solved sound so much that it crashed the game.

[@stevethepocket]

Making mistakes on purpose is hard.

[@AirshBornely]

Don't mean to be all "You're fucking wrong" but many people were aware of this bug before Vinny did it. Myself included. I was laughing even he encountered it

[@Tinlion09]

I like how Fox sounds like even _he_ knows he was shoehorned into Dinosaur Planet. He crashed there, realized the planet was still medieval-level, and came up with the "royal knight of Lylat" thing to play along when someone handed him the magic sword or whatever.

[@DracoHandsome]

Well, it _is_ midway between the original, not-Fox concept and Miyamoto going "NO IT'S FOX, MAKE IT FOX"

[@Cyber_Akuma]

That line sounded lower quality than the rest to me (though it might have been because of an audio effect they applied to him being in a cave) which makes me wonder if that line was re-recorded so he can say his name is Fox while all the rest of the lines were originally Sabre's.

[@renakunisaki]

They definitely did a search and replace to Fox and Lylat System.

[@Meme_Lor]

Not really relevant but do people like the on foot parts of Star Fox Assault?

[@midnightowl8692]

@@Meme_Lor i did but if we could have a slightly changed control scheme would been better. Sauria mission on foot was a pain

[@classymarowak7001]

It's like lookin' into a parallel universe where we didn't lose Rare and Dinosaur Planet.

[@samuelg7673]

The ending of Starfox adventures made me so angry as a kid. I went through all that stuff, and the ancient beings who existed there since the beginning of the planet turned out to be andross hole time. That was such nonsense I never replayed it.

[@Zangelin]

@@samuelg7673 Thats.. not what happened lol

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@samuelg7673 It wasn't that the Krazoa had been Andross the whole time, it's that Andross used Fox freeing the Krazoa as an opportunity to steal their power and become one himself.

[@RalphInRalphWorld]

What, you don't like Viva Piñata?

[@BareBandSubscription]

@@OtakuUnitedStudio Still lame af. Anytime Nintendo pulled a last-minute copout like that in any of their games, it was lame. Ganondorf in Twilight Princess is another example of this.

[@mostverticalproductions4808]

Dinosaur Planet is such an impressive game, I wonder if it would've "saved" Rare and kept them with Nintendo. It's impressive that we even got the dumps of them to begin with. Holding out for that Mother 3 N64 build...

[@DCBiscuit]

Probably not, they still turned it into Star Fox Adventures. It was advanced for the N64 but on the GameCube it was just middling. Maybe without the Star Fox name on release, it would’ve had an easier launch since no one really had any expectations.

[@weepingblade]

@LetsPlayNintendoITA Apparently mupen 64 ,works well for textures

[@DCBiscuit]

@LetsPlayNintendoITA I think it a lot on the prototypes get some of the massive issues fixed by modders. Texture flickering, unplayable glitches, audio issues, etc. At least that’s how Glover 2 was done a couple months ago.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Nintendo said they weren't interested in buying Rare. So not very likely.

[@WllKiedSnake]

@@DenkyManner From what I've seen. Dinosaur Planet is very impressive. I've seen pretty much the whole game now. Its massive compared to StarFox Adventure.

[@ColonelCorson]

It's so cool that we're able to experience these snapshots in time and see how games changed as they were developed.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Hey Fam I know you from the Facebook Groups, Smash Ultimate Hell, FE Critposting, and many others!

[@Hopecho]

I wish they did this with all games. Makes you appreciate the hard work more, they put into these games. I know I’ll be doing this in the future when I’m making games.

[@DoitForTheLolz1]

@@Tsukiru If it were music, they'd have every version and remix on a deluxe edition or compilation by now lol.

[@lordsquid6652]

Ayy wholesome Cory!

[@Hopecho]

@@Tsukiru You have a valid point. I fully agree with this. Also, I wish you all a happy day :)

[@Interference22]

Regarding The World is Not Enough: is that.. ragdolling in an N64 game? That's fairly impressive.

[@powergannon]

Interesting how both bond games had novel enemy death animations since Goldeneye used mocap.

[@daveface69]

No, there's no way the N64 could handle that. They just used ragdoll physics (from the looks of it) to create the animations.

[@Z64sports]

@@daveface69 Handle mocap? Goldeneye used mocap I know. I've seen it

[@sneezebiscuits7239]

@@Z64sports Well it also ran like shit so no it couldn't handle ragdoll.

[@daveface69]

@@Z64sports No one's talking about mocap, the comment was about ragdoll physics. Mocap has nothing to do with the hardware animations are playing on, it's just a way to create said animations.

[@supersnackbros2423]

I have a theory as to why Fox is called Sabre and his profile looks nothing like him. He was probably supposed to be a wolf as an homage to one of Rare's earliest releases: Sabre Wulf for the MX Spectrum.

[@AirshBornely]

Yeah. Sabre a wolf and Krystal was suppose to be a cat I believe. Also the "Royal Knight" is part of Sabre original dialog, so that's why its weird Fox is calling himself a Royal Knight of the Lylat System.

[@powergannon]

The trivia going around was always that Miyamoto asked Rare to convert Dinosaur Planet into a Star Fox game because he saw that they were using a fox protagonist, but it’s possible that part of the story isn’t true.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@powergannon if it's not true, then even Nintendo was wrong about it back then.

[@alfo2804]

@@powergannon He just "saw the similarities" between Dinosaur Planet and Starfox. He was probably just shown the first half an hour of gameplay and saw the anthropomorphic animal characters and the on-rails 3D aerial shooter segment and offered the Starfox IP to them. The team at Rare probably said yes because they knew a Starfox game would already have an established audience, so it would probably sell better than a new, non-Nintendo IP. It's a shame, really. The developers should have had more faith in themselves to create a successful original game - what they have here looks like it could have been good on its own.

[@dr.velious5411]

@@alfo2804 It was either, continue on on with the project in it's original state, or change to the Starfox ip to build their relationship with Nintendo, and they were gearing up to sell the company so...

[@JacobKinsley]

I love how krystal is just British girl shouting and that's her whole voice

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Full volume, all the time.

[@murpaderp8461]

I honestly like it.

[@malikoniousjoe]

British neighbor yells general advice at you through the window [ASMR] Roleplay (Dinosaur ambience)

[@JacobKinsley]

@@malikoniousjoe your British sister's friend who's played the game before backseats the entire game for you because you're too young to figure it out yourself

[@nyxologymedia4136]

Show Joanna Dark's voice actress some respect

[@DQBlizzard_]

Regarding the Lost Woods not having trees, they are unloaded since they actually made the game lag. In the map editor you can see the entities are there, but are not set to anything.

[@diegomedina9637]

Yup. Putting in actual Tree actors would cause the N64 to instantly crash upon loading the area.

[@shadowwake19]

Vinny: skips 10 seconds of tutorial >proceeds to spend a full minute trying to figure out how to do what tutorial explained

[@GrubbyWubby]

this isn't 4chan

[@warbossgegguz679]

Who do you think you're watching? Lol

[@wohdinhel]

@@GrubbyWubby everything is 4chan if your scrotum is hairy enough

[@warbossgegguz679]

@@wohdinhel H-... How do you shave your scrotum, sir? Cause I don't think most sane men would use a razor on their balls.

[@sneezebiscuits7239]

@@wohdinhel What's wrong with hairy scrotums

[@d0pesmoker]

this is one of those elite vinny videos that are perfect to watch before bed, this one gonna take me a week to get through

[@LolaliciousSmiley]

Dude I always fall asleep. I use Vinny's jokes as markers to see how much I really watched, but I usually rewatch something that made me laugh and then just rewatch the whole thing.

[@fivesidedpixels4991]

NonBilly Bardy same, I usually can’t remember how far in I was so I just use vinny’s topics as markers

[@largenstonesea]

It's only 2 hours long lol. Try watching the seven hour edit of Jerma's Dark Souls playthrough.

[@travosk8668]

That ice level in dinosaur planet looks amazing.

[@powergannon]

Rare were absolute masters at the N64 hardware. No one else but Nintendo had atmospheric lighting effects like the later Rare games

[@nickm5419]

@@powergannon Rare were absolute masters at the N64 hardware? yes they were and i want them to make another Banger on N64 :(

[@bobble13345]

Hopefully one day the prototype for Earthbound 64 leaks

[@SonicTheCutehog]

So this prototype is when they started changing Sabre to Fox

[@tannertadlock7741]

Probably the first build that had his voice acting finished, but no one elses

[@DolusVulpes]

@@tannertadlock7741 I'd argue the voice acting wasn't completely finished, since there's still a few dialogue inconsistencies with the final product. Like Fox claiming to be a royal knight, for example.

[@tannertadlock7741]

@@DolusVulpes I think it's a cover. I don't think he's actually a knight.

[@KOTEBANAROT]

@@tannertadlock7741 he is actually literally a royal knight, Krystals childhood friend and Randorn's son lmao. There is NO Star fox elements in this build beyond the model. He is so fully Sabre in this build it was fairly easy to recover his OG model.

[@WllKiedSnake]

Sabre is still in the game. You get a disguise later on which glitches out and turns you into the Sabre model.

[@dan_loeb]

Fun fact about twine (the world is not enough) on the n64, it's one of very few (potentially the only) n64 game to use mp3-like audio compression instead of adpcm. It's not entirely regular mp3, it's compression is different, but it's licensed from the mp3 codec creators iirc

[@ShimiDia]

l know Perfect Dark is one other game that used MP3 audio.

[@dan_loeb]

@@ShimiDia oh yeah! Completely forgot that one used it too. It's really interesting how developers managed to push the cart size limitations on the last few years of the n64's life.

[@PyroSirBrad]

From the looks of the beta water temple it seems that Link was supposed to start at the bottom, fill the dungeon up with water, and get to the top so he could face the boss. Also the guard rail for that bridge seems to be using the texture of the water temple doors in the release version of OoT's water temple. The things I would do to be a fly on the wall at Nintendo during this game's production.

[@escaperoutebritish]

Seeing empty areas like those in the Ocarina of Time beta actually makes me feel a little, like, sick in the bottom of my stomach. Does anyone else get that? I also get it a ton in VR if I manage to go out of bounds.

[@escaperoutebritish]

It's like a, "I shouldn't be here" major anxiety feeling.

[@BareBandSubscription]

What the fuck are you guys talking about?

[@Tinlion09]

25:43 Jerma's fans when he says or does literally anything:

[@smgeezus7186]

For as much as I love Jerma, I do hate to see him get surrounded by a fan base.

[@ShenDoodles]

@@smgeezus7186 Isn't it a good thing for a streamer to build a fanbase?

[@Dougie-Jones]

@@ShenDoodles is that really the type of fanbase Jerma deserves? Fuck me I might as well watch xQc for the same experience....

[@Tinlion09]

@@ShenDoodles Jerma's fanbase is _riiiight_ on the verge of turning toxic, imo. They're already taking heat for overusing the "when the imposter is sus" meme, but if you watch his streams...idk, they give me this weird, unnecessarily antagonistic feeling. Poking fun at Jerma has always been part of the fun, but lately, they've been taking that role way too seriously, and sometimes they overstep in a way that ruins the humor. For instance, watch the 2ndJerma House Flipper highlight video that introduces the _GAS_ joke. (It's the title of the video, you can't miss it.) Two-thirds of the way through, Jerma takes up a challenge from chat to play Deal Or No Deal and have his winnings taken off The Debt (which is a whole nother YT comment essay worth of weirdness sometimes). Jerma wins a decent amount on the first round, then goes "double-or-nothing" on a second play and completely invalidates it, and that's really funny. He has a _thing_ with gambling, he knows it, chat knows it, but this was a web version of the game with no real risk or investment, so in the end it's all in good fun. Then afterward, someone tells him something along the lines of "post 'I have a big dumpy' on Twitter to nullify the Deal Or No Deal losses, or the debt is doubled!" You can tell that even Jerma is kinda weirded out by this one; after reading it out loud, he quickly and quietly says that he's not opening Twitter just to embarrass himself, and moves on. Think about it. Where the hell did this come from? The Debt doesn't even work like that. You can't just declare that he'll be penalized for not doing something he didn't agree to beforehand. Where's the fun in that? Everyone was having a good time, and then this dude came in and pushed it a little too far and spoiled the moment. I guess what I'm saying is, Jerma's adversarial relationship with his chat is a double-edged sword. On one hand, Jerma _is_ often hyperbolic, and he tends to make snap decisions that could bite him in the ass later on, and Chat getting to call him out and make him do what he promised to do usually makes for a pretty good straight-man-funny-man routine. On the other hand, sometimes Chat takes that role too seriously, and there's a fine line with that kind of comedic relationship where you have to avoid going too far, because then it's less "haha we made the monkey dance by dancing along" and more "dance or you get the shock prod." And this is just one particular problem they have; I'm not going into them overusing the "sus" meme or telling other streamers who aren't in on the joke to "sing the raid/subscribe/new-viewer song." Okay thank you for reading my Jerma essay. I'm the giant rat, coffee cheetos chicken, AA EE OO, etc. Please have a nice day.

[@Nobutehuhh]

@@Tinlion09 The fan base as a whole seems to be getting too manic. All the clip titles freak me out. Hope things chill a little bit lol.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Dinosaur Planet would’ve been so amazing even without the Starfox characters, Miyamoto was slick In realizing the inspiration it took from Zelda and decided to make it Starfox Adventures, but in exchange it probably wouldn’t have got much recognition due to not having the Starfox Brand and probably would’ve fallen into obscurity, they made great use of the GameCube’s power in the world and environments, even Fox and Krystal’s Fur. Dinosaur Planet on it’s own would’ve rivaled Ocarina and Majora’s Mask.

[@WilfredCthulu]

Adventures itself could've probably been a lot better and well regarded as a separate genre for the series if they didn't bother wasting time to shove in the Arwing just to try to trick people and be like "Ha ha noooo it was always star fox nothing more

[@AirshBornely]

What would've helped is if Fox crashed landed on DP, so they wouldn't have to shoehorn Arwing segments in and break off parts of the planet. Of course you still run into issues with Fox replacing Sabre since Randorn is suppose to be his father and all.

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

Hell it's better without star fox because it was allowed to create its own mythology

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@WilfredCthulu Nintendo was pretty open about the fact that it shifted from an original IP to Star Fox even back then. They didn't really try to "trick" anyone into thinking it was "always" a Star Fox game. They talked about the early builds (pre-Fox) in Nintendo Power.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@RoyalKnightVIII A lot of the mythology from the original build was carried over into Star Fox, so it wasn't really hampered in that regard.

[@itryen7632]

Miyamoto is a furry, this was how he vented it.

[@ryanclemons1]

Does Japan even have furries?

[@genyakozlov1316]

@Rinze Morino Subjective.

[@That_One_Xatu]

​@@ryanclemons1 Considering how even cavemen created art of anthropomorphic man/animal hybrids, I think the better question is: what human society on Earth doesn't contain furries?

[@ryanclemons1]

@@That_One_Xatu lol caveman furries

[@doclouis4236]

@@That_One_Xatu That's some delusional thinking right there. Not every culture that incorporates animals and humans or human animal hybrids into their art or mystical views on life as today's definition of "furries". At least not old ancient societies like the Egyptians is what I mean.