Vinnie Stigma of Agnostic Front: The Godfather of Hardcore (A HardLore Film)

HardLore is honored to be joined by the Godfather of hardcore himself: Vinnie Stigma from Agnostic Front.
A true pioneer of the genre and a living legend, Vinnie took us around his neighborhood in New York City, including the world famous former home of the legendary venue CBGBs. We learned all about his early days as a punk rocker, making the jump to hardcore, how much he misses playing in Madball and SO much more in these incredible 2 hours of the hardest lore yet.
There's possibly no hardcore today without Vinnie and Agnostic Front's contributions to the genre, and there's certainly no HardLore.
They say never meet your heroes.. They've never met Stigma.
We can't thank everyone involved enough for making this happen.
Vinnie, Mike Dijan, Tom Sheehan, our special guest co-host Dan Seely, Producer Andie Andres, PA Aaron Warman, and the incredibly talented Rob Menzer for bringing this insane journey to life.
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TIMESTAMPS:
Episode Preview - 0:00
Intro - 0:26
St. Patrick's Cathedral - 1:58
The Ravenite's Club - 11:38
Vinnie's Stomping Grounds/Childhood - 15:21
CBGB - 25:27
Sally Donuts - 33:33
Murder Incorporated - 35:59
The First Pizzeria In America - 42:29
Pardon this interruption... - 43:37
Tour Stories & Pizza - 45:50
Don Fury - 58:12
Vinnie's Legendary Apartment - 1:03:11
Robin Williams - 1:11:16
Starting Madball with a 12 Year Old Singer - 1:14:06
NYHC Tattoo - 1:17:41
Would he play in a new band? - 1:19:30
"You can only lose honor." - 1:2236
Paulie the beer drinking dog - 1:25:13
Matt Henderson - 1:28:10
Cause for Alarm - 1:29:50
Witnessing the Evolution of Moshing - 1:31:05
Vinnie's Top 4 Hardcore Records - 1:35:20
"Who do you do?" - 1:37:00
The Golden Arches Question - 1:37:48
Ghosts... - 1:41:10
Final thank you's and goodbyes - 1:42:49

[@LILDIRTNAPX]

Bo speaks... Vinnie: Anyway...

[@thomaswaldron3865]

by default. this is the best episode.

[@skinnyskinhead9492]

by default this is the fastest ive ever clicked on a video

[@tylerjodeblock1224]

100

[@benjaminthiele7474]

Agreed. I'm 10mins in an it's fuckin great.

[@muneyjodye]

came to comment and post the same thing

[@misanthropist3]

Facts 💯💯💯

[@JoeyDunsey]

I would love to see Vinnie and Joey Diaz have a conversation.

[@JohnEvans-xg2bp]

I know Bo and Colin are not people of faith, but I deeply appreciate how respectful they are towards Vinnie as he shares about his faith and how it sustained him. There are those of us out there who do believe in a higher power, but instead of trying to control people, we work to make sure that higher power is known through justice making, serving, and loving one another.

[@fcaioki7949]

It’s the hardest and holiest of lore

[@plumbunrecords518]

They have that open and accepting attitude to non straight edge folks as well. Genuine chaps they are 🔥

[@JohnEvans-xg2bp]

@@plumbunrecords518 Amen to that. I'm not Straight Edge myself, but I quit drinking in 2021, and as a Chaplain and a minister, I am all about any ethic or faith that helps folks lift themselves up from self destruction. Lord knows I've definitely listened to a few straight edge songs to never touch poison again.

[@DrewKane]

The story he tells at the church is one of the most fascinating bits of Italian-American Roman Catholic history I have ever heard. It could be a whole movie itself; the story of a young kid with an idol of a saint, being chased down by the mob.

[@JohnEvans-xg2bp]

@@DrewKane honestly, it could be the story of a Saint too in its own weird way. Saint Vincent Stigmata, who kept a sacred piece of cultural heritage out of the hands of a scumbag like Gotti.

[@JohnEvans-xg2bp]

@@DrewKane Saint Vincent Stigmata of NYHC

[@joaocarlosmartinramosjr9782]

Stigma not wearing the cap inside the church. True Gentleman.

[@jacobv3155]

This episode is sooo amazing. Stigma showing and talking about everything in the neighborhood is the best. This should win some kind of 2024 podcast award.

[@jbasti227]

Every time Vinnie says “anyway” in response to someone kills me, especially 34:26 😂

[@DH-hl5tc]

THE definition of NYHC. From the beginning til the end, he's been there. Nothing but respect for this man and his undying love of HC.

[@brentericson7447]

Take a drink anytime Vinnie says "fahgetabowdit"

[@mauriciolopez4855]

I used to play in a hardcore band in El Salvador in the early 2000s. Somehow, one of our shirts and our album made it all the way to Mr. Vinnie Stigma. He sent us a picture of himself wearing the shirt, and that was a major highlight in our career. It was incredible for us, a band from a third-world country, to see a true legend like him rocking our merch. Best episode ever-it's going to be hard to top this one!

[@joebreakerx]

The story about the Pete Steele Magazine prank is amazing. Voorhees played a few UK shows with AF in the 90s and decided to prank Vinnie by telling him that when it comes to money in the UK "the bigger the coin the higher the value", so he was cherishing all these 2p coins over £1 coins haha, legend.

[@notreally-sf3df]

Hahah that's amazing. The dude who was on last week has an amazing Stigma prank story too. Remember that old pre youtube meme video of the dog doing another dog and vomiting? Tom didn't know if Stigma would remember him after seeing him 15 years after Indecision toured with AF. Stigma comes up to Tom going "hey kid, you still got that video of the two dogs fucking and one of them vomiting?". Tom remembers that everyone had it on their laptop and tries to figure out if they showed it to him or something, all while Stigma goes "i've got my eyes on you, kid" multiple times over the night. Later on realizes the timeline didn't add up at all, so Stigma just linked him to a loose date, said that and had him think about it all night. So fucking funny.

[@misanthropist3]

Voorhees were great

[@joebreakerx]

​@@misanthropist3 Voorhees also had a run in with *Robin Williams* in NY too. They saw him in the street and approached him for a photo, Robin apparently in a pretty shit mood just said 'Fuck Off' when one of them tried to sneak a pic with him... so off they fucked. BUT a few moments later they suddenly see Robin Williams running towards them, where he proceeds to genuinely apologize, chat for a while (mimicking their accents) and take some photos (including literally taking a photo of Voorhees without him in it haha)

[@DrTabarnak]

Crazy you guys just keep running into Dan Seely like that. How!?

[@fcaioki7949]

It’s also insane how they’re mic’d up already!! LIKE WTF!!!😳

[@the_real_tay_loud2072]

Dan gets around nyc😂 dudes in the cut at every coffee shop

[@MadBall96]

Saw AF like 2 weeks ago in Munich Germany and Stigma is still a machine at this age. Guy has more energy than most teenagers today and is a big inspiration for many people. Peace

[@mydudechris]

I have a picture with Vinnie and Roger when I was 15 that has never left whatever bedroom in residing in for 18 years, absolute legend.

[@herbivore7108]

Hands down best Hardlore episode yet!

[@gmazzo]

Who cares about hardcore, I want to listen to Vinnie's church history all day long lol great episode

[@kevinb7126]

Whispering with his hat off like a good Italian boy .

[@sMoKEy131]

Two minutes into the episode I realized that this must be the best Hardlore episode yet! 🎯 I was also at the Dynamo Eindoven in 1995. The ticket cost 25 guilders (€13) back then. That was the first time I saw Madball. (also Type O Negative, Machinehead and Nailbomb) Best concert ever ..117k people and no cell phones !

[@sMoKEy131]

The fact that Vinnie likes "The Stranglers" made me very happy. I have all the records here and love the old stuff! Underrated Goat Band (for me)

[@harrycorrigan6453]

5 minutes in and this is the best ep of hardlore easily

[@montydeaton8581]

That was awesome Vinnie is the best he took me to see Warzone a treasure memory thanks Vinnie

[@misanthropist3]

Finally, early 80's hardcore. My favorite era of hardcore. This is easily the best Hardlore Episode, great episode interviewing the legend Stigma! Loved hearing all his stories.

[@xsiafiredex]

I didn’t want this to end. What a gem of an episode! Well done for getting this arranged. This truly was a legendary episode:)

[@zangeejoe]

Saint Vinnie 🙏

[@subtractvoid_]

This is the best episode and it isn't close. Thank you, Hardlore for this.

[@DevilsHornsZine666]

Beautiful and as important as the Godfathers of hardcore doco,,,thanks for doing this

[@ShameBunny]

This is so so good. Could watch hours and hours of this

[@StageDiveYoga]

Stigma gave so many real life lessons about respect, love, looking out for others, doing things right and being honorable. This is hardcore. ❤️

[@kevinb7126]

Could listen to Vinny all day he’s a walking lesson in NYC History he represents a city that doesn’t exist anymore now filled with Whole Foods and Chipotles .

[@user-dy9dx5lc5m]

Never thought I’d see a hardlore interview in a cathedral. So wild and interesting !

[@cvhc869]

Give respect

[@PompRicci-rl5qr]

Fantastic NYCHC Series, thank you for that!!! Vincent Cappucio!!! What a person

[@zakk219]

This is awesome. Vinnie seems like a great guy and the interview was incredible. Great job, guys. Don't know how you guys are gonna top this one.

[@scott42599]

Easily the most interesting video yet. Could listen to Vinnie tell stories for hours

[@juliansosa4764]

Stigma constantly saying “ok anyway” to Bo is hilarious

[@chains1108]

This is an amazing piece. Great work thank you for doing this and capturing these moments. Vinnie is stigma has legendary persona

[@stum7396]

What a beautiful gent Vinnie is. Respect. 🙏

[@JamesMacaroni]

What an absolute legend

[@jellodeth3993]

This is the best thing on the interwebs.. well done 👊

[@user-cc9bq1nr7c]

Met vinny at my job last year. One of the kindest gentleman ive ever met 👍

[@itsonlyalex3254]

one of the coolest episodes of Hardlore to date.

[@drugzdelaney5760]

As someone who saw Vinnie in Madball! I’d love to see it again

[@Nottherealsal]

Mike's voice sounds like the NYHC version of Lars Ulrich but more coherent

[@raymondhebert9049]

All time legendary episode congrats on this one!

[@lowend]

Stigma IS NYHC!!!!! Some amazing sights and stories here!

[@dinkins335]

Love the Peter Steele mentions. He was a gem!

[@screemin187]

Brilliant!

[@TheBUDoubleT]

Loved every second of this episode. Was on Wikipedia every couple minutes reading up on the lore he was talking about (re: Murder Inc). 10/10

[@codectalker398]

I tried to tip Seely 10 bucks at a King Nine show buying merch and he just said "No".

[@davedrill]

There's no words how good this was...

[@benjaminthiele7474]

Respect to Stigma for taking his hat off in Church.

[@STRUGGLE247]

i especially expect that from italians

[@danzilor]

Probably my favorite episodes of the show!

[@hannahkozlovic1715]

This is amazing, I’ve been hoping to see AF on the show for a while. Something’s Gotta Give was the first hardcore album I ever listened to, of course I love em to this day. Stigma has got some serious lore

[@hawneyman]

Sick episode 🤘

[@imLandon1]

Coolest dude on the face of the planet

[@jordancornell9364]

lol tom sheehan in the background trying not to look at some point

[@MarkButler-ft3vp]

This was so comforting to watch. an ADHD KING!

[@beartyler]

God damn Vinny's schedule was jam packed on Sundays

[@kookadams85]

There's no o.g more of an o.g than an Italian. 💯. I'm half Italian so I can say that. Stigma is a legend of legends. I ain't the biggest a.f zealot but he's good people. 🇺🇲🎼

[@Nottherealsal]

I live in NY and the most NY thing that's ever happened to me was leaving a Madball show and seeing Vinnie Stigma taking pictures around the block.

[@SteeN3R]

This should go in a hardcore museum somehow. Growing up in NYC its amazing watching people witness this stuff for the first time. The amount of culture even on one block is more than some states have

[@EmanuelSabinonamasteskater]

One of the mega OGs

[@christopherthacker4002]

As someone who grew up watching the metal documentaries and all the stuff on vh1 classic i can't tell you guys enough how cool it is that y'all captured that exact vibe for hardcore. This is not just an episode this is like a film it's just so cool what you guys are able to do and I can't thank you enough for doing it

[@kev2o560]

Don't think this can be topped, 🙏

[@VAGGY8TH]

I see him walking around when I’m in the neighborhood. If you ever see Vinnie, give him a “STIMGA!”

[@jakebellaire]

Didn't think Vinnie could be any cooler until he pulled out the Steelers coffee mugs

[@ReconMan8654]

Stigma is a national treasure. Excellent video, gents! 🇺🇸

[@ANNIHILATION13487]

reusing the same intro joke for all of these episodes is next level comedy

[@Federico.el.Noruego]

Stigma🤘🏼🔥Hardlore Rules🤘🏼🔥

[@Thonggdelonge]

HANDS DOWN the greatest. ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@IamTyler3]

Class act.

[@notgood38]

Stigma is a popeye's man? He really is the GOAT

[@JEG1988]

What a banger to drop on the 4th July!! None other than the GW of hardcore 🇺🇸

[@42itous]

STIGMAAA! Dude's got stories and riffs for days

[@CSkibaRun]

Okayyy yall gettin in your bag with that intro

[@Sunwarz707]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@panarexia]

this is crazy

[@Carlo.WTF416]

This NYHC series of episodes may have single handedly made me start wearing my OG CBGB shirt again. Got that shit from the bar on a 12th grade class trip to NYC in 2005 😂

[@RigSquad]

I remember the don fury sessions Glassjaw demo too that’s epic

[@chuckjamesnorris5928]

Dan always there to make everyone else look short

[@dinkins335]

Vinnie rules!!!

[@jtkappy7742]

I had a classmate in college who raced pigeons. I wonder if he's ever met vinnie

[@1afterthep]

keep the vinyl re-releases coming

[@01REDEYEDDEVIL]

The infamous Joey Fauccugotts!!

[@plumbunrecords518]

Mike Valente is the man! Hometown hevy hitter

[@jordanmoran1983]

First band I ever saw live was the stranglers at the tender age of 6 in 1990.

[@queenscomicparty]

i love this man. ive known him since i was 13. his a mets fan. dont believe what he says lol

[@johnbury1697]

Love Stigma

[@thrasher5122]

Who’s the “Long Island guy” they are referring to during the honor part?

[@alexanderleuchte5132]

Holy moly! Cody'sLab has hit the gym! You could make three Stigmas out of him

[@SoulPunch13]

❤️‍🔥

[@MikeSkeleton]

ITS GOOD FOR YA HEALTH

[@gregbaffuto4370]

Simpsons reference right at the start: "I says to Mabel, I says..."

[@spiritualreflections1253]

seems like he had some really busy sundays

[@basdevries2936]

Great episode! Being a Dutch music fan great to hear the small detail about the word Yankees. It comes from the Dutch name Jan Kees. The English called the Dutch Jan-Kezen=> Yankees. Anyway, Stigma rules!

[@krivtsovartwork9215]

Anyway!

[@Guenonymous]

No around an hour and seventeen minutes he starts talking about how he has a tea ceremony and makes vows. I think that joke went over their heads or they just ignored it but that was such an off the wall statement lol

[@js6527]

9:04 got me good

[@SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG]

😮

[@jackbradbury2229]

Take a shot every time Vinnie says “Forget about it”

[@KMKimo]

NYHC 4 LIFE 👊🏻