Rendering Beeswax... Worth The Hassle? Let's Find Out!

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@migueldelmazo5244
@migueldelmazo5244 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how KZbin algorithms work, but thanks for bringing me here. I don't keep bees. I know nothing about beekeeping. I don't have a need for wax, but this was really interesting. Have a great time doing what you do.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@raineyartwork
@raineyartwork 5 жыл бұрын
When you have no idea how you got here but enjoy the ride anyways.
@johnbutler2231
@johnbutler2231 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, enjoy the ride. My wife is deadly afraid of bees, wasp and any flying insect larger than a fly. I do need wax for leather work I am doing and want to support the smaller beekeepers.
@gazinta
@gazinta 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us who are here and also beekeep welcome you. We have chosen(or have been chosen) to be the stewards to pass on a skill and tradition. Not only to produce honey and wax for sustanence, but to recruit others to consider the responsibility to the future generations that haven't been born yet. We're all educators and students at the same time.
@gazinta
@gazinta 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Send wax my way. Any condition.
@JordyJRT
@JordyJRT 5 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping to see the final massive block of wax, such a cliffhanger at the end!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I had just spent 2 days rendering wax and didn't have time to get the hero shot at the end. I wanted to get the video edited. There will be more once I decide what to do with all the wax!
@jo-han
@jo-han 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm There is another method. Let the bees make new fresh frames and harvest these frames early before they are really being used. Its a bit more using your bees as farm animals, but if you provide enough food and frames or (old) combs it shouldn't be an issue for the bees. Should get you less dirty wax too. The junk / garbage probably still contains enough fats and burnables to be able to use it to burn and heat something outside. Just don't throw it in any advanced burners because of the fatty / junky smoke.
@khills
@khills 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm - I know you've talked about selling your honey; I'd buy wax. (I like to make lotions, balms, etc.) Just, ya know, saying. Alternatively, if you'd like to learn to DIY, I'd be happy to send you the foolproof (necessary for me, trust) recipes I use, OR introduce you to someone in Hudson who could give you a full botanical How-To-what to mix into balms and lotions for the best benefits. I'm sure you grow a lot of the plants on your property already. [I'm pretty sure I mentioned her to you before; that she'd likely be interested if you ever started growing certain plants, like hyssop. (Edit: interested in buying dried flowers for her apothecary/tea shop/awesomesauce store.)] ...I also know of a local-ish company that might be able to walk you through beard balms and the like, too. ...and if you made a no-additional scent one of those, I'd buy it for my husband. 😉
@bobbyandcecilia2382
@bobbyandcecilia2382 5 жыл бұрын
Make the “junk” into fire starters! Pour into an egg carton and break them apart.
@zadidoll
@zadidoll 5 жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic idea!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea.
@DaveCantley
@DaveCantley 5 жыл бұрын
I've done that with some old slumgum I accumulated. They make an excellent way to get your grill or BGE going.No need for starter chimneys or stinky lighter fluid!
@bigb018
@bigb018 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a good idea, but idk how well the junk would burn being that its going to have water emulsified into it.
@nyxh.7567
@nyxh.7567 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a great business opportunity!
@kirkhlavaty6564
@kirkhlavaty6564 5 жыл бұрын
The dirty remains make good fire starters. I pour the dirt wax into toilet paper rolls filled with wood chips
@mekan0001
@mekan0001 5 жыл бұрын
The wax moths will have reduced the amount of wax you recovered from the frame wax too. Since they eat it, and then leave behind their waste.
@cathymontgomery7295
@cathymontgomery7295 5 жыл бұрын
The waste water and gunk can be added to compost
4 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, just a woodworker sneaking around, learning how to melt old wax and make a wood finish..... Thanks!
@alejoarangoeastman
@alejoarangoeastman 5 жыл бұрын
I use a Solar wax melter box I made, It depends on the weather how fast it renders the wax, but it only takes one step and the wax is clean, no need of scrapping the bottom. The box has a stainless steel sheet and over that is a frame whit small chicken wire + paper towel that filters the junk. The papes do absorb some wax but I use it + the junk to start campfires so it is not lost.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
We will not have temperatures too far above freezing for the next 4 months. No solar melting until maybe next June! I would like to try it someday.
@lastphcm
@lastphcm 5 жыл бұрын
My daughter and I built a solar melter with an putting aluminum foil in an old medium box with a piece of plexiglass on top. We filtered with window screen and paper towels over and into a shallow pan of water. It worked great, nice clean wax. That is until fall weather came. Next year I am going to make mod2 of our solar melter and start sooner.
@alejoarangoeastman
@alejoarangoeastman 5 жыл бұрын
@@lastphcm does the window screen not melt in any way with the heat?
@lastphcm
@lastphcm 5 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Arango no it did not melt
@shannonswyatt
@shannonswyatt 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm You would be surprised. I use a solar melter. If is clear and not windy it will get hot enough to melt wax at pretty cool temperatures. The nice thing about the solar melter is gunk is left up top and the wax is pretty clean on the first pass. Not very convenient for cappings, but for everything else it is great.
@donbearden1953
@donbearden1953 5 жыл бұрын
Jim, your wax clippings is definitely so much cleaner than the old comb. I normally just use my rendered wax to recover my plastic foundations. Once I filter it a couple of times I use an old crock pot to melt it and a small paint roller and recover the foundations while still in the frames. Thanks for the video!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Those cappings came out super clear! I botched the reveal, but one more meltdown and they'll look great. Thanks for watching!
@Krossfyre
@Krossfyre 5 жыл бұрын
Love this! Been watching a lot of beeswax rendering videos recently and it's just really hard to find ones with a well shot and edited video. I've been waiting for you to come out with one!
@hyfy-tr2jy
@hyfy-tr2jy 5 жыл бұрын
Jim, great way to show where your time and efforts are worth investing! I see so many Beeks just toss all the wax, regardless of source, into the same vat and strain/clean their wax so many times to get to the final clean yellow wax. What i see here is that cappings wax are the way to go and the other wax just isn't worth chasing unless you are at a commercial volume level. Well done!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I agree...
@kevindeichmann6755
@kevindeichmann6755 5 жыл бұрын
I can see keeping the cappings separate. The rest I would mix together and use a mini paint roller and roll wax onto frames. The bees will draw that out extremely fast. Also try pouring pot if melted wax into a 5 gal bucket with water in it. With a few buckets you can keep moving. Love your videos. Thanks
@isedhooah3683
@isedhooah3683 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim. Take the frame scrapings (which a lot appeared to be brood comb), melt it down and role on the inside of your swarm trap(s). I also take a ball of propolis and rub that all around the entrance of the traps... works great for bait!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Good ideas. Thanks.
@MrMagooo
@MrMagooo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! I just got done scrapping about 20 frames myself, and had a FULL paint bucket strainer I placed into my solar wax melter I just build. After several hours in the sun on a very hot day, I ended up with about 3 tablespoons of wax. I was frustrated and threw all of it in the trash bin. Then I wondered if I had made a mistake and started looking things up on youtube. You helped me confirm I made the right choice. I'll continue melting down my cappings, but won't ever bother with the old frame scrappings ad they don't render enough wax to make it worth my time.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how little wax there is leftover from old brood frames.
@SteadfastTrailFarm
@SteadfastTrailFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks! I just picked up 16 pounds of beeswax blocks from a local beekeeper for my candles , lip balms and body butters. I knew it was liquid gold but watching the process is proof! That paint bag is genius! Thanks for the very informative and entertaining video!
@HHRescues
@HHRescues 4 жыл бұрын
Fun video with fun music as a new beekeeper I appreciated watching all of this
@crabmanbc21
@crabmanbc21 5 жыл бұрын
You should try a Solar wax melter, much easier and less mess. You simply put the wax renderings in the melter and set it in the sun, the melter filters the wax as it melts and puts it in a nice tray. If it isn't clean enough you can put it back in the melter and let it go through it again. In the end it's clean neat and all from the power of the sun. We use a store bought solar melter but many folks we know have made their own. Thanks for you videos, we love watching them. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Bee Year.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Do Solar melters require the sun and/or an actual warm day? We're 6 months away from that! Maybe some day.
@crabmanbc21
@crabmanbc21 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm In our experience, we live in North GA mountains, the sun will melt the wax in most temperatures. I will say the warmer temps help but not absolutely needed. My wife is originally from Canada and she has good cold weather experience, lol. If you have a warm home with a window that has good sun you can use that window and your warm home to melt wax. After seeing your methods it reaffirmed how much we like our solar melter. It is cleaner and faster. We love your videos and thank you for taking the time to share your Beekeeping adventures. Take care and Merry Christmas.
@DeanoHexe
@DeanoHexe 4 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation, logical approach. As all your video’s this was very engaging. We will copy your technique tonight. Once again thanks from East Tennessee!
@elariel01
@elariel01 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. I've been watching your videos and planning to get my first hives next year. I probably would have wasted all the time saving and scraping the rubbish wax so thank you for doing this experiment for us all!
@TangledMind1018
@TangledMind1018 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! My family and I make homemade candles at home and even with paraffin wax you definitely need to strain. Never thought about the paint filter trick! We'll definitely test that out sometime when we need to melt down old wax. And I have to agree that remelts and plenty of filtering will aid you in cleaning everything up. Depending on how "natural" you want to go, there's a few additives you can add to help stabilize the wax if you're aiming to make candles. Vybar aids with binding the wax, so it doesn't form cracks as it's cooling. UV stabilizer is only really needed if you're planning on adding any dyes. If so, I recommend using a liquid dye rather than solid as it's easier to get the color you want. If not, all you need is the Vybar really unless you foresee having the candles in storage for a long length of time, or sitting in the sun a lot. Also, for beeswax, it's hard enough once cool that you can use molds rather than just jar candles. Do your research on wick diameters versus wax melting temperature, as too large a wick can burn too hotly, and flash burn the wax in a too small candle, posing a significant fire hazard. If you're looking for quantity, votive candles will yield the highest amount of candles per amount of wax without being too ridiculous. And there are some fun molds aimed towards beekeeping you might find interesting. Uh...sorry for the super long comment. Figured I'd share what knowledge I have. Again, great video, and thanks so much for sharing!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice!
@racheledwards6497
@racheledwards6497 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the advice. we just started our first hive this spring and I'm excited and can't wait to start getting honey and making things with bees wax. I have a friend that has an arts/crafts store in my little town and I know she would let me sell my homemade beeswax stuff I make. we are going to be getting more hives next year. bees are amazing little creatures. I've learned allot about bees.
@JustMe-cr1dr
@JustMe-cr1dr 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about bee-keeping or bee's wax, but I love your videos. They are so informative. That said, could you possibly melt the "junk" wax down and mix it with wild bird seed to make a kind of suet cake for the birds through the winter?
@Parian101
@Parian101 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Vino, This year I tried home solar wax melter and I was able to render the most filthy wax very clean on the first try. I used a large stainless steal salad bowl, silicon cake mould a strainer, another silicon strainer, kitchen paper towels and put that in a plastic bag under a glass sheet. One sunny day is all I needed and the wax was rendered and clean. Worth a trial if you wanting to experiment and also does not take as much time and effort.
@Sqeptick
@Sqeptick 5 жыл бұрын
I use a solar wax melter and do small batches throughout the summer. Just drop some wax in, go do inspections, and come back to clean melted wax. No mess in the kitchen either.
@jeffnewton3685
@jeffnewton3685 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the results of the different wax that you collected.
@teambeining
@teambeining 5 жыл бұрын
You’re so good at educating in your videos.
@heatherjolly8389
@heatherjolly8389 5 жыл бұрын
You are a gifted video maker. Informer of bee things. Thank you for the inspiration and information
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@AnneluvsKatz
@AnneluvsKatz 4 жыл бұрын
This was a PERFECT video. I’m starting my 3rd season as a beek and you have just saved me a TON of work. I’m not even going to bother melting any wax when I scrape my frames now. Maybe I’ll just toss that stuff on our bonfires! THANK YOU!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@annkrupa2349
@annkrupa2349 5 жыл бұрын
I just learned this summer about the paint strainer used when melting wax down. Very smart idea. Helps a lot. I figured with my dirty wax that doesn't want to clean up well, I'd use it to rub onto new frames. Hope it works anyway. Good video.
@carthius
@carthius 5 жыл бұрын
That thin disk would be helpful for me in some leather working... Id clean it up a bit and just melt it into a small soap size bar to use for threading even though its dirty itd still work really well for it. Even still though hard to believe its been 3 years since you dropped that one hive comb when you started :P
@DonnyT744
@DonnyT744 5 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of these types of videos. I have never seen people use the paint strainer like that. Epic pro tip.
@sledmaker02
@sledmaker02 5 жыл бұрын
To render my wax I use a solar oven, with a screen bowel over a glass cake pan with water and the screen bowel is lined with a good paper towel to filter the wax. My wax comes out bright yellow and clean.
@OvcharkaShepherd
@OvcharkaShepherd 8 ай бұрын
WhooHoo the first person I have seen using paint socks. Definitely the PRO tip
@AMortalDothApproach
@AMortalDothApproach 5 жыл бұрын
Another idea of how to use your wax: food wraps! You coat fabric with beeswax and use it instead of plastic wrap for leftovers and stuff.
@Eviligniter
@Eviligniter 5 жыл бұрын
I see you watch the Medieval dude too.
@mikeries8549
@mikeries8549 4 жыл бұрын
Wait til you find the bees wax, honey, and goats milk soap.
@caramcree
@caramcree 4 жыл бұрын
My neighbor just told me about this too! We're going to re-dip her srore bought ones and make some new as my first project.
@signespencer6887
@signespencer6887 3 жыл бұрын
I make beeswax wraps all the time. You need to add some pine resin and some sort of oil- coconut or jojuba. But it is really easy to do and makes great gifts
@flygirlhoney_
@flygirlhoney_ 5 жыл бұрын
I use the paint strainers too, but I have a big crockpot that I use. Basically the same method, strainer over the crockpot, pour in water and fill with the wax, cover and keep an eye on it till melted.
@jeanirwin9539
@jeanirwin9539 5 жыл бұрын
I use an old crockpot with about 1/2 filled with water, paint strainer lined with a Viva paper towel. Usually don't have to strain twice. Is slower as I have to keep"feeding" the pot as the wax melts. Crockpot is set on low.
@keithlightminder3005
@keithlightminder3005 2 жыл бұрын
The chaff left in the bag can be melted and mixed with wood chips to make fire pit candles for camping. You can scoop the mix into muffin tray liners and just put a shower wick in each one. The use of the mesh bag is so smart- saving this vid to rewatch later in the year.
@mattkersten1928
@mattkersten1928 5 жыл бұрын
I've had good success using an old slow cooker (low setting) with cheese cloth (grade 90). Add enough water to pop it out easy after it cools.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen the slow cooker method... I just don't have one.
@StaceyMayer
@StaceyMayer 5 жыл бұрын
Second hand stores sell them for pennies on the dollar.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
@@StaceyMayer I can afford one. I just don't HAVE one. After all these suggestions, I'll grab one next time I see one at a thrift store.
@chrispesklo5115
@chrispesklo5115 4 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm - I bought a two quart slow cooker at Walmart for only $9+. It takes longer, two hours to melt the wax, but it won't burn it. Works well, albeit a slow process.
@mikeries8549
@mikeries8549 4 жыл бұрын
Try the candle makers pouring pot. Use a double boiler and ... It's faster than the crock pot and...if you buy a candle mold, wick, and mold release you can make dandy little candles that CLEAN THE AIR WHEN YOU BURN THEM. Bees wax candles are special. They ionize the air which causes impurities to drop out. Cool huh? I'd say that's divine. Vino you'll get where you've got 40 pounds of wax on a shelf. Get the little one ounce mold set because eventually someone will ask for some wax. It's neat to be able to just hand them a nice little piece of your beeswax. I have chunks that are 5 gallon bucket sized about 2 gallons worth per chunk.
@RaySarasin
@RaySarasin 4 жыл бұрын
I use a crock pot and a steel fine screen, it works. First lesson i learned is separate your wax before melting it. That way wax capping is the cleanest wax
@mikes1345
@mikes1345 5 жыл бұрын
I set my waste outside in a plastic paint pan roller. The sun seperated it some more but the amazing thing was bees constant picking through it. It was about double fist sized gunk that is now golf ball sized. I also had a chunk of new comb in a frame set out in an open box. I have seen that bees don't recycle wax but they chew this wax to almost nothing. I now have an area for waste products so the bees and wasps can utilize what they want.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. I'll set that junk aside for next summer when things warm up.
@mikes1345
@mikes1345 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm its 66 here today which might be a tad warmer than your location! My bees are active. Yours would probably appreciate you saving it for them.
@kathrynwhite9724
@kathrynwhite9724 4 жыл бұрын
Vino farms. One of my favorite beekeeping sites. We have learned so much from you! Thank you!
@susanmessenger9052
@susanmessenger9052 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! Thanks for making this video. The paint strainer bags are a fantastic idea. Great time saver and mess reducer . Hello from Australia. I will be doing this tomorrow using stuff that I got from friends who keep bees.
@loisharris7035
@loisharris7035 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have bees but I make beeswax candles and other body products with beeswax. I get my beeswax from local beekeepers, some of it barely processed. I filled thru paper towels and melt the beeswax over cool water with a heart gun. As it melts it drips they the paper towels and since I layer them it does multiple filterings at the same time. With the paper towels layered into a metal sieve the wax drips straight thru and the metal sieve is reusable because it's not coated with wax. Since you aren't using the stove you have less concern if burning your wax. You can use any size plastic bucket since you are melting into cold water and you get smaller pieces that do take a little more room to store, but are much easier to use. And the paper towels my mom uses as firestarters for her fireplace.
@scipio2009
@scipio2009 5 жыл бұрын
Time is definitely a factor, but I'd imagine that all wax is useful, tbh. Use the cruddy wax from the scraped frames and bircomb to line new frames that will be installed later (giving the bees a hand up in building their hives), while keeping the good wax for your own use (candles, dips for the tops of honey hard, etc). It's all worth something in the end
@AFrolicsomeMind
@AFrolicsomeMind Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your video so much. I went though probably about 10 looking for exactly what you provided in a straightforward way. I’m going to embrace your pro tip paint things. I got cheese cloth but that was hard to find in person but there’s a Home Depot very near me. I was given remnants of a hive when I was looking for clean, golden wax. I make candles and lotion/body butter with beeswax so I’m familiar with its properties but I’ve never worked with this stuff. I’ve got my first batch cooling for about 20 more minutes. Very curious to see how much wax it will yield. Using the water was such a shocker for me at first but of course…I think beeswax is pretty waterproof. I just thoroughly enjoyed the way you presented this. It was fun! Love all of your commentary. Thanks, again.
@AK-jk7co
@AK-jk7co 4 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for.....Thank You! 💛💛💛🐝🐝🐝
@Gord1812
@Gord1812 5 жыл бұрын
I found that if I put the bucket with the melted wax in a large cooler and let it cool a few days the wax had no cracks in it. I melt then pour the wax and water through cheese cloth and get great results. Then I use the cheese cloth as fire starters when I'm camping.
@thuffman44
@thuffman44 5 жыл бұрын
I found way too much wax is lost when using a paint strainer or cheese cloth. You'll net more wax by pouring through a stainless steel mesh sieve (at least, that has been my experience). Love your videos! I enjoyed watching this one. Wishing your bees the best of success!! 🐝🐝🐝☮️☯️
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I'll give that a shot in the future.
@Anonymous-mb9kc
@Anonymous-mb9kc 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the wax series. Main goal aside from honey was wax candles eventually!
@privatebubba8876
@privatebubba8876 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy 1 lb. of beeswax filtered for 8-10 dollars per pound. Unless you have a bunch of hives you will not make a ton of wax so you will have to supplement your own wax supply. I only keep 5 hives continuously and I buy about 10lbs of wax/year to make candles and lip balm for gifts. I buy cosmetic grade beeswax for lip balms. Another way to make candles is to buy wax foundation and wick string and roll the wax sheets into candles.
@yvonneturner5505
@yvonneturner5505 Жыл бұрын
Great video I like the paint strainer I use old pillow cases
@ashleyadcock339
@ashleyadcock339 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy everything you post
@JazzyMamaInAK
@JazzyMamaInAK 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip on the paint strainers! Friends give me wax but it isn't strained.
@MrOhitsujiza
@MrOhitsujiza 5 жыл бұрын
Frame wax can be sorted to brood/bad wax and the honey wax that is the best quality iirc.(only second hand knowledge)
@EggPlantsBelieve
@EggPlantsBelieve 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I haven't been actively watching your channel but eggplants is back! I remember discovering this channel when you first started :') keep going and I'm turning on notifications lol.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
I remember you.
@SaveOurBees
@SaveOurBees 4 жыл бұрын
interesting method. But from what I've found, wax always rises to the top so you really don't need to strain it in the melting process with the paint strainer. Maybe 99% of the dirt will sit below the wax (if left undisturbed) and the waste will either be in the water when cooled or attached to the underside of the wax block, so you simply scrape it off. Re-rendering wax will refine the process even more. And there are easier methods than this but thanks for sharing your process.
@ren-hw1dx
@ren-hw1dx 5 жыл бұрын
him: “dead bodies..” me, a non-beekeeper, forgetting this is about bees: oh?
@albigensian4655
@albigensian4655 Жыл бұрын
I use an old clean pillow case to filter the wax, all done in one shot, gives nice clean wax.
@blurplenightmares3737
@blurplenightmares3737 4 жыл бұрын
This was so good and helpful in understanding about different kinds of beeswax rendering.
@jayglosser2014
@jayglosser2014 5 жыл бұрын
Great video on rendering bee wax❗ Thanks for all the information ❗ From Orangeville, Wyoming County NY
@annotten7413
@annotten7413 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know anything about bees nor do I know anything about how to keep them but I just watched a video on how to render the wax and enjoyed it
@doctortcbkk2027
@doctortcbkk2027 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you think. Very orderly and organized!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
I make it seem that way on the videos!
@jpthedelawarebeeman6239
@jpthedelawarebeeman6239 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim, being a noobie I usually melt it in a crock pot. The last small batch I just melted it in a small non-stick pot that I got cheap at the second hand store. I think the few frames I extracted I got 1lb of nice clean wax. I melted it down and poured it in a paper towel roll. I have one big wax crayon now to coat some plastic foundation. I have some on order so the wax will come in handy. I think the extra wax helps encourage the bees to build out faster but more importantly straight and flush. I hate crazy comb..... I used a crock pot as well and it works great.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Crock pot method sounds good. I just used what I had on hand. Thanks for the comments!
@michaelpisapia
@michaelpisapia 5 жыл бұрын
...another wonderful, entertaining and VERY informative video! I was looking forward to this one since the last video was posted -and it was worth the wait! Thank you for such an in depth and instructive video. Please keep this excellent content coming! ...and how do I get a hold of some Vino Farm honey...?! ;-)
@douglloyd3802
@douglloyd3802 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim. Dont you use your old wax and a paint brush to coat your foundation that you just scrapped? I do a couple of coats on my foundation, the bees will use this to build out new comb faster. It is bees wax recycling. Give some wax back to the Bees!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
I've never done it because so far I've bought all my foundation pre-coated. Those are the first frames I've ever scraped bare. I will clean them up and definitely re-coat with some of that wax.
@BLachance75
@BLachance75 5 жыл бұрын
I started brushing more wax onto my prewaxed plastic foundations this year. I found that they build out the comb quicker on the frames with extra wax.
@davidviescas1695
@davidviescas1695 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wax rendering! Let us know how the honey sales get set up. I'm buying!
@matthijspw
@matthijspw 3 жыл бұрын
A beekeper I know lets her wax solidify in empty juiceboxes. If you have a relatively narrow column of wax rather than a thin big disk, there is a lot less layer to scrape off at the end.
@corkkeysbees4627
@corkkeysbees4627 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there I use a solo wax melter. Then I render wax in hot water, to make it ultra clean works pretty good. really old dirty wax looking like new wax.
@Mazequax
@Mazequax 5 жыл бұрын
I bet that smells wonderful!
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
It does.
@manatoa1
@manatoa1 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm do the different types of wax you collected differ in smell?
@unitytira4954
@unitytira4954 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this video, I learned a lot.
@robertsloan1390
@robertsloan1390 2 жыл бұрын
You can al always use the old frame wax to recoat your frames. The burr comb and capping you can make either jar candles or candle sticks. Especially if you have a way to make the wax look like honeycomb and roll it around a wick
@honeysourcegeelong5524
@honeysourcegeelong5524 5 жыл бұрын
If you simply add all 3 lots together, melt and strain, that should clear up mostly after 1 melt. When you do 3 separate melts like you did to demonstrate, then no. It quickly becomes not worth the trouble. Your ability to process more wax, for less time is key. We have a big 50 Ltr pot with a tap almost at the bottom, this allows us to continually melt and pour as it becomes too full. I do enjoy seeing your content. keep up the good work =D Sam
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
This was more of an experiment for the video... Still, I was surprised to see how little wax was actually in the comb. Thanks for the comment.
@honeysourcegeelong5524
@honeysourcegeelong5524 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm oh I totally get your purpose! was actually great to see your results, was very interesting.
@jonathanswoboda
@jonathanswoboda 5 жыл бұрын
I found that a 75 micron nylon mesh worked the best for the final render. It is very fine but the wax still goes through fast enough, coffee filters didnt work and they are 20 micron. First render use a more coarse nylon mesh.
@jonathanswoboda
@jonathanswoboda 5 жыл бұрын
I discovered on amazon they sell nylon "rosin" bags. I am going to try these next year as they are small, food grade and seem very cheap ~1$ a bag. Note I dont use pot never have not even sure what rosin is.
@jonathanswoboda
@jonathanswoboda 5 жыл бұрын
Also search for "The press club"
@jo-han
@jo-han 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanswoboda aren't those bags tiny? as in 1 inch?
@jonathanswoboda
@jonathanswoboda 5 жыл бұрын
@@jo-han They sell 3"x6" and 4"x7", I melt my wax then pour it into the filter.
@DreamyDuskywing
@DreamyDuskywing 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure rosin is tree sap? Used on violin bows etc
@Sebach82
@Sebach82 5 жыл бұрын
I still don't know jack about bees, but I know it's NOT ABOUT THE HONEY but todaaay... it's about the wax. Loved it!
@gregmau6
@gregmau6 5 жыл бұрын
SAVE THAT SLUM GUM! Filter the wax by placing the comb (the darker the better) on a sheet of burlap in a solar wax melter. The slum gum saturated burlap can later be cut into "slum gum mats" and placed on top of the frames in your bait hives as a super swarm attractant.
@katkorn5499
@katkorn5499 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson! Happy holidays!
@jurajbanas2163
@jurajbanas2163 5 жыл бұрын
Also what do you do with the dirt afterwards?
@19vendetta19
@19vendetta19 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to how I do it in a 55gallon drum. I tie bricks to several brewers bags of wax and boil it on a turkey fryer. The key is to make sure the water level is high enough that the bags won't harden on the bottom of the block.
@andreaskyster5128
@andreaskyster5128 2 жыл бұрын
Steam extraction will yield much more and cleaner wax. Your "waste" contains twice the amount of wax you get from the boiling process. Steam extraction leaves the waste as a dry, soft granulate with next to no wax in it, and I was very surprised the first time I tried steaming the "waste" in a nylon stocking. You should try it.
@gregschuerger537
@gregschuerger537 5 жыл бұрын
I boil mine in a similar pot and pour through a strainer. My wax has never burnt and the rolling boil helps to separate the junk out. I like the paint filter idea though and will probably pour through that next year.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
Pouring several gallons of hot water and wax is not on my list of things I want to do in my kitchen. Maybe with smaller batches.
@EriYtt
@EriYtt 2 жыл бұрын
We use a saftmaja, a pot special for cocking lemonade that steam the wax out. And nylon stocking
@mountainmanprojects
@mountainmanprojects Жыл бұрын
I am just now looking at getting into bee keeping and looking at your waste I have to wonder, if you leave this near the hive wont the bees scavenge the waste from the paint filter to rebuild new comb? Similarly, the very thin wax plate you got from scraping frames?
@GrimKeeper9011
@GrimKeeper9011 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Love all your content.
@chrispesklo5115
@chrispesklo5115 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a fourth year beekeeper and I now run a plastic-free apiary; which means my bees, honey or wax never comes in contact with any plastic at all; wax foundation, stainless steel and glass jars. I use dish rags from IKEA as a strainer and they work very well also. Just boil the rags en-mass afterward to separate the gunk and rouge wax from the towels. Works well.
@turtleinvader2982
@turtleinvader2982 4 жыл бұрын
Is there anything at all that you can use the junk for, maybe fertilizer in a compost?
@davidapp3730
@davidapp3730 5 жыл бұрын
You can also make your own foundation sheets.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
I could... but I generally use plastic foundation, so I will probably use the wax to re-coat the frames I scraped.
@roden70
@roden70 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Dirtrooster render his wax through a ladies pantyhose. It seemed to work. I really enjoy your videos!
@beebob1279
@beebob1279 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Nice job. There are other ways to process wax for the small beekeeper. Now that you have the pot (nice size for just picking up on the side of the road), you're almost there. Find a long cylinder type of colander, the kind used for spaghetti. Melt down the wax and then submerge the colander in the wax. The wax pulls through the screening leaving the junk (slum gum) behind. Take a cheap dollar store ladal and scoop the wax out and into a small plastic bucket with water on the bottom. You can take out the colander and melt more wax without wasting time pulling the slum gum (which still has wax in it). Add the colander again and just keep doing that. One clean out and your pretty much done. Now you can melt the wax and filter it through a which sweat shirt. The left over slum gum goes into a home made solar wax melter for a future melt down. Easy peasy.
@zerocool212121
@zerocool212121 5 жыл бұрын
One thing id try to use to help with refining is using some gold classifier screens you can get different mesh sizes to really get down to likely only need one or two passes and your all refined. You can stack them to from 1/4" to 200 mesh or finer then just have a 5g bucket to catch all the good wax/water. Id highly recommend looking into that, I like to use a 50/50 beeswax paraffin to wax my pants and backpack to keep them water resistant for outdoor use.
@tonyennis3008
@tonyennis3008 4 жыл бұрын
Are you reusing the nylon bags, or are they good for one use?
@silverfawn9533
@silverfawn9533 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely makes me have even more respect for it all. I would love to keep bees and I wanted to start making bees wax candles. I definitely have a whole new appreciation for it all
@JenniferTacbas
@JenniferTacbas 2 жыл бұрын
We’d love to see a wax update video! What did you end up making with the good wax?
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 2 жыл бұрын
I made more disks of wax. Now I have about 12lbs. Still just collecting!
@JenniferTacbas
@JenniferTacbas 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinofarm Ok, cool! My 9yo daughter was asking. She loves all your videos, and we’ve been rewatching some lately. She loves making things & science, so this is one of her fave videos of yours. But we’ve seen them all!
@HeartofaMuse
@HeartofaMuse 4 жыл бұрын
how many hive boxes/ bees do you have to yield this amount? Trying to plan a self-sufficient farm...but I have a candle addiction.
@Morsoth
@Morsoth 4 жыл бұрын
So much work! Now I really understand the price of one pound of beeswax!
@noemicarrion6883
@noemicarrion6883 5 жыл бұрын
I just cane across your video's and I'm happy I did. Thank you so much for sharing. I would love to get into bee keeping but I live in the city and unfortunately I don't have a yard. So I'll just keep dreaming.
@Scuba_Steve_lll
@Scuba_Steve_lll 3 жыл бұрын
For smaller amounts I use a solar oven. I get a glass casserole dish and put a frame with a screen in it over the dish. I then put paper towel on top and put the wax on that. The paper towel does all the filtering.
@derekwelborn445
@derekwelborn445 2 жыл бұрын
Question: Is it possible to separate and harvest propolis from the wax & bits for later use??
@oncebefore3671
@oncebefore3671 Жыл бұрын
Watched your video - a good presentation - a small suggestion - find a much larger vessel, place a layer of small pebbles or rocks in bottom of vessel, place all your wax for rendering in the paint bag as you showed, place in the vessel and weigh it down with bricks or large rocks, fill the vessel with water 5-6 inches (or more) above the bricks or rocks - render soft and low as you described - after wax has set and cooled, remove and pour out the water outside - lift out your bag of debris and you will find it soft and crumbly - feed it to the chickens, spread it out far from the perimeter of your home for the birds or late night scavengers, or compost it - you will have recovered every last bit of wax and not deal with hard messes to clean up - you can also add in to the filter bag any saved sludge or used paper or cloth filters - you can recover any remnant or residual wax from those as well - you will only need to rinse or wash the filter bag to use repeatedly
@jasonmiller1271
@jasonmiller1271 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! you can also you cheese cloth. It is a little cheaper and you can get huge squares that you can shape to different sizes and dimensions.
@vinofarm
@vinofarm 5 жыл бұрын
I used cheese cloth until I discovered paint strainers last year. Not going back! The strainers are $1 each and I only use one or two per year.
@jesteris25
@jesteris25 5 жыл бұрын
when I done bees with my father we use to render all the wax yes boil and filter many times but it worked
@mmogg4045
@mmogg4045 5 жыл бұрын
Freezing the comb first then breaking it apart yields more fine flakes that seperate easier
@christianpaul3303
@christianpaul3303 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the "waste" would go in and be a benefit for compost?
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