Vintage Cube Draft | Channel LSV

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@benkaplan1836
@benkaplan1836 6 жыл бұрын
The classic 5-color balance reanimator twin deck.
@anosmianAcrimony
@anosmianAcrimony 6 жыл бұрын
That feeling when you Animate Dead a Griselbrand and he's a 6/7, so he doesn't gain you enough life to draw 7 cards in a hit...It's like when hot dogs come in packages of 5 but hot dog buns only come in packs of 4.
@kimmiekoneko
@kimmiekoneko 6 жыл бұрын
This deck is the last tier of the expanding brain meme for Vintage Cube. I just can't believe it.
@joshuaallen6450
@joshuaallen6450 6 жыл бұрын
The balance + Leovold + shallow grave + Emrakul was SO sweet! I bet the opponent thought so too right before he died and lost all his permanents lol
@zacharyrhodge
@zacharyrhodge 6 жыл бұрын
7:22 "I think Mind Twist sucks" - LSV, 2018
@bricksbideos7340
@bricksbideos7340 6 жыл бұрын
I wish these didn't go up so late, it's much more exciting to watch these when you can hop into a cube league right after
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 6 жыл бұрын
LSV's been uploading weeks after the fact for years now it seems.
@trysephiroth007
@trysephiroth007 6 жыл бұрын
LSV doesn't decide when the videos get posted.
@brentgees
@brentgees 6 жыл бұрын
I wish cube was available all the time on mtgo, that would make more sense :)
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 6 жыл бұрын
I wish old formats were available all the time and cycled through on MTGO, it would be free money for them
@janrodriguez3200
@janrodriguez3200 6 жыл бұрын
Troy Moore really?
@FunPheonix
@FunPheonix 6 жыл бұрын
I live for these drafts lol. Love the content, more channel lsv
@r2dezki
@r2dezki 6 жыл бұрын
What a bazaar draft.
@32Maxxwell
@32Maxxwell 6 жыл бұрын
I see what you did. lol
@Spaccaspecchi
@Spaccaspecchi 6 жыл бұрын
I applaud you. Now get out!
@Josh-zn5uk
@Josh-zn5uk 6 жыл бұрын
Stop now get put of this house
@Izandaia
@Izandaia 6 жыл бұрын
The new Gideons prevent damage too. They're just also indestructible.
@codetaku
@codetaku 6 жыл бұрын
They actually *have* to prevent damage, or else you'd get really confusing rules with loyalty counters.
@colgatelampinen2501
@colgatelampinen2501 6 жыл бұрын
Damage removing loyalty counters from planeswalkers is not really that confusing.
@Izandaia
@Izandaia 6 жыл бұрын
Not on its own, but it's weird when it's also a creature.
@neverwin2518
@neverwin2518 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not just taking a clip from a stream, it's nice being able to focus strictly on the gameplay.
@32Maxxwell
@32Maxxwell 6 жыл бұрын
LSV is extremely enjoyable to watch. The lines that you make LSV and your thought process are incredible. I just now wish I could draft a deck that doesn't quite get there and it still finishes 2-1. But man hit the like on this comment if you wish you could play vintage cube right now!!!
@Zii_Vii
@Zii_Vii 6 жыл бұрын
This is why we watch LSV.
@NatePrawdzik
@NatePrawdzik 4 жыл бұрын
"I think Mind Twist sucks." You just have to appreciate how the universe sometimes shows you the error of your ways.
@Drecon84
@Drecon84 6 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS FOR THE GAMES: What are people talking about with the Mind Twist thing? It was irrelevant pretty much every time. M1G1: It provided some card advantage for the opponent but LSV beat that one easily M1G2: It did something, but LSV mainly lost to forgetting about Leovold and opponent ripping a removal for the Griselbrand. Sure, Mind Twist was a factor here, but LSV played that game suboptimally and probably lost because of that. M3G1: Yeah, Mind Twist for entire hand is pretty good when you're on a hopeful draw. That said, He had pretty much already lost that game. He was on Emrakul and a bunch of reanimation and needed to draw something specific to win and have it not get countered. I think the opponent would've won that one regardless. So yeah, Mind Twist is a very powerful card, but this cube has so many ultra-powerful cards and combinations that often the Twist wont's matter as much as it does in lower power formats.
@Torvald80
@Torvald80 5 жыл бұрын
You will lose a game where you twist and nothing else. Just like you can lose a game where you cast Ancestral Recall and nothing else. I think if you lose a game where you cast an early twist for at least 3, you got rather unlucky.
@andrewtedor8606
@andrewtedor8606 6 жыл бұрын
LSV says Mind Twist isn’t good.. then repeatedly gets bodied by Mind Twist. lol the karma. Love the deck tho, spice at its finest
@csscwc3101
@csscwc3101 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had the same reaction when I first hear him say that mind twist isn't good...I was like how is it not good
@xandermoore9119
@xandermoore9119 6 жыл бұрын
The card is not as good as people rate it. The card is fine. In a cube full of broken cards, fine is not good enough.
@carlosspencer5369
@carlosspencer5369 6 жыл бұрын
I think he did that to irritate gabby, she always says the card is busted
@Zii_Vii
@Zii_Vii 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't he only lose 1 of the games he got twisted? And that was specifically to a twist for 7 late in the game after mana flood. I don't have an opinion on mind twist tbh but I think it's misused very often. For example I hate mind twist in ramp decks because you have to commit so many resources to it and often have no good follow up. I dunno. I've heard Luis say mind twist is bad very often which goes against what I always assumed was true. But I don't think he got bodied by mind twist in this video. It just got played against him in 2 of it's more popular decks(ramp and control).
@RW77777777
@RW77777777 6 жыл бұрын
it's one of the original mana sinks for Mana Drain, "if you've got Mana Drain in your 40, Mind Twist is great" LSV presumed -also didn't lose to Mind Twist, lost to "too lazy" land taps
@strangemolars
@strangemolars 6 жыл бұрын
Man, sometimes I wish that I played as well as LSV. Than other times I wish I playd as badly as LSV and got as lucky as him too. Its a weird mix of feelings.
@nitzillaproductionstheanyt7929
@nitzillaproductionstheanyt7929 6 жыл бұрын
A glorious Frankenstein's monster of a deck.
@reidyoung298
@reidyoung298 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this deck!
@Stillson14
@Stillson14 6 жыл бұрын
From the comments you would think that Mind Twist was this huge beating. Mind Twist was just irrelevant.
@alexbaker9578
@alexbaker9578 5 жыл бұрын
It wasnt irrelevant when he had to discard 7 - it cost him the entire game
@blueberrylps
@blueberrylps 6 жыл бұрын
"You need more mana before you take 7 drops" You of all people gonna lecture us on not taking sevens in limited, Luis?
@xandermoore9119
@xandermoore9119 5 жыл бұрын
Uhhh... Consecrated Sphinx costs 6, actually.
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 6 жыл бұрын
YAY a true LSV video without twitch nonsense in the background. Thank you CF!
@jonasdash
@jonasdash 6 жыл бұрын
Necromancy and Emrakul does not work how you'd want it to. Necromancy at instant speed means you sacrifice the creature at beginning of next CLEANUP. Still a decent reanimation spell, but it's no Shallow Grave for Emrakul shenanigans
@RespectYourViews
@RespectYourViews 5 жыл бұрын
I must be missing something. Isn't cleanup step at end of turn when damage is removed from creatures etc? So you could still discard an Emrakul, cast necromancy at instant speed and attack to wipe your opponents board---NVM i see the problem, no haste from necromancy. could still do it on your opponents turn as an emergency blocker but not nearly as exciting to just block and kill 1 creature.
@p1k4nurxp13sr
@p1k4nurxp13sr 6 жыл бұрын
He didn't take Jitte. He didn't take Jitte. I'm flabbergasted. Bamboozled.
@Alkoholwioslaidziwki
@Alkoholwioslaidziwki 6 жыл бұрын
@ 1:07:55 if he kept push in his hand (there was no reason to cast it at that point since op didn't show any counters) he would have easily won next turn. Just naturally draw conscripts with 4 cards in hand, vamp and bazaar for second reanimation spell, bin conscripts and just win on the spot. There were probably other winning lines of play but dumping push into a non-threat seemed like a massive waste.
@caw1461
@caw1461 6 жыл бұрын
He had no way to know that he would draw conscripts and opponent was tapped out. If opponent was a more controlling deck, thing might be one of his few ways to actually win. It can also bounce his reanimated targets, so had he left it, opponent might have been able to flip it and fizzle the turn. There are a lot of reasons to just push it then.
@gragrim
@gragrim 4 жыл бұрын
After the draft, had me feelin like this deck was guna be poop soup.. drawing the right cards tho and BAM sweetness
@Zeth444
@Zeth444 6 жыл бұрын
Oath of druids would have been sick sideboard tech vs the elves deck
@mulletproofvest3235
@mulletproofvest3235 6 жыл бұрын
let it to LSV to make a 5 color reanimator deck, awesome.
@andreyuvarov254
@andreyuvarov254 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, this deck was a work of art!
@snowy-g9p
@snowy-g9p 6 жыл бұрын
lsv's deck looks like it was built by a person on LSD
@cedI395
@cedI395 6 жыл бұрын
At 1:03:22 when you Shallow Grave, you mention your opponent could have Hero's Downfall and it wouldn't matter. But wouldn't that brick the Grave? I won a few games against people going all in on Shallow Grave/Corpse Dance because it only returned a Putrid Imp I just killed.
@evanmacarthur-waltz1795
@evanmacarthur-waltz1795 6 жыл бұрын
During the first game of round three, I really wanted you to discard emri to handsize after you treasure cruised.
@paulm2163
@paulm2163 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know about this one, Luis. TNN is not too "small ball" for Cube. It's a legit clock in the control mirrors and it's a pretty solid brickwall if you're behind on the board. Any equipment just propels it to insane levels. And taking LED when not storm and there being a second fetchable blue source off heath in pack seems kind of loose. Also, I hope "Mind Twist sucks" was a joke. That card is like Fireball where you get 2-3x X.
@kairussel9612
@kairussel9612 6 жыл бұрын
Paul M he also said don't ever play shadeless agent and then was about to slash for it. He's hypocritical as hell sometimes.
@zackestin1368
@zackestin1368 6 жыл бұрын
Just saying, new Gideons prevent damage too, they’re indestructible and prevent damage to stop things like abrade killing a Gideon because reasons
@sean5534
@sean5534 6 жыл бұрын
Game three you could have vamped for exhume and used it and the animate dead to get both back right?
@nathanwilson6324
@nathanwilson6324 6 жыл бұрын
I think he has to discard down to one card so that doesn't work
@sean5534
@sean5534 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Wilson hmmm probably didn't count the number of cards in hand to make sure
@Jamis39
@Jamis39 6 жыл бұрын
He could have Bazaar'd hoping to draw Shallow Grave, discard Conscripts, Vamp, and a blank. It's a gamble since he knows he can't draw Exhume, but its a potential way to win that game.
@LostprophetPL
@LostprophetPL 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think LVS made this many mistakes in his entire career as in this draft. Still great video.
@allisonminerly6000
@allisonminerly6000 6 жыл бұрын
At 38:20 should have discarded Skinrender to Putrid Imp, cast Shallow Grave to get it into play with haste, kill his only blocker and swing for lethal.
@ragnarokice0
@ragnarokice0 6 жыл бұрын
match 2 game1, LSV style normal magic LOL
@mtgbast
@mtgbast 6 жыл бұрын
55:28 not playing around daze really bad here
@maticherzog
@maticherzog 5 жыл бұрын
haha, shit, that balance to shallow is insane
@Friendofsquirrel
@Friendofsquirrel 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Mind twist does suck
@Tscherni
@Tscherni 6 жыл бұрын
Bazaar looked insane every time he played it. Mind Twister sucks -LSV
@alexbaker9578
@alexbaker9578 5 жыл бұрын
Mind twist single handedly cost LSV a game tho lol. He is wrong - it is quite good
@SoMainstream
@SoMainstream 6 жыл бұрын
"feels like the opponent has heros downfall here, but it doesn't matter" except it REALLY does, because you cast the card shallow grave. You do know how that card works right? Because you certainly dont know how Emrakul+necromancy works.
@GabrielLeechannel
@GabrielLeechannel 5 жыл бұрын
his voice is asmr
@a.s.vanhoose1545
@a.s.vanhoose1545 6 жыл бұрын
How is mind twist bad again?
@bsmith8166
@bsmith8166 6 жыл бұрын
"I think mind twist sucks" -lsv
@gerd1022
@gerd1022 6 жыл бұрын
also had the win at 38:12 by shallow grave'ing the skinrender and killing the wolf token and attacking for 5
@MTG_Viking
@MTG_Viking 6 жыл бұрын
That Mind Twist Karma :P
@BarginsGalore
@BarginsGalore 6 жыл бұрын
They laugh at me for always forcing mono green ramp but I also have went 3-0 every time I have drafted this
@iPLAYgb
@iPLAYgb 6 жыл бұрын
Get HYPE boys
@pietro750
@pietro750 5 жыл бұрын
I strongly believe that mind twist should be removed from the cube.
@DonovanPresents
@DonovanPresents 6 жыл бұрын
I thought cube drafts are supposed to only have one copy of each card... Interesting...
@macsenhayes
@macsenhayes 6 жыл бұрын
it's part of how they find you an opponent that drafted their deck from a different cube so that pairings are faster
@Addrum
@Addrum 6 жыл бұрын
I'll guess someone told lsv to not draft blue because people was complaining in the comments. This is what happens when you can't deal with the best color in magic.
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
When is the frank/LSV collab draft happening?
@foxpendragon5917
@foxpendragon5917 6 жыл бұрын
LSV: *does his intro* Me: don't you just mean forcing storm?
@alexanderbartlett4931
@alexanderbartlett4931 6 жыл бұрын
Is cube still running.
@larflabergasted
@larflabergasted 6 жыл бұрын
No, this is at least 2-3 weeks old.
@Coeurebene1
@Coeurebene1 6 жыл бұрын
with Putrid Imp backup!
@TheBattleDwarf
@TheBattleDwarf 6 жыл бұрын
LSV's microphone is way too sensitive
@SkidMcmarxx
@SkidMcmarxx 6 жыл бұрын
necromancy zealous take their leovold than legend it?
@bladeflesh
@bladeflesh 6 жыл бұрын
that's what he did...?
@bsmith8166
@bsmith8166 6 жыл бұрын
Doesnt he realize kiki doesnt really copy anything in the mostly legendary deck?
@juliencarrie4236
@juliencarrie4236 6 жыл бұрын
I won with both show and tell and eureka once...
@notanetdeck5264
@notanetdeck5264 6 жыл бұрын
Mind Twist sucks? To play against, apparently
@bladeflesh
@bladeflesh 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair drawing 4-5 lands in a row will cause mind twist to be good.
@antfayden
@antfayden 6 жыл бұрын
Or any early mana rocks into it
@augustuspaluzzi6896
@augustuspaluzzi6896 6 жыл бұрын
At long last it rerurns!
@RW77777777
@RW77777777 6 жыл бұрын
I was saying rerurns...
@benjones2776
@benjones2776 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you could have won the last game if you'd thought through your plays a bit more.
@resu2026
@resu2026 6 жыл бұрын
Your Pick was ok but.. "Mind Twist sucks" ?!?! This just cant be right
@47Mortuus
@47Mortuus 6 жыл бұрын
nice Tropical Island over Reanimate. How can you overrate lands so much...
@tamriilin
@tamriilin 5 жыл бұрын
in this cube, you're gonna get your insanely powerful cards regardless, because the cube is full of em. what you won't get, if all you take is power, is dual lands or signets or other really great mana sources.
@danumd87
@danumd87 6 жыл бұрын
Someday LSV will post a vid in which he isn't trying to draft Kiki jiki. But this is not that day!
@floorsweepings666
@floorsweepings666 6 жыл бұрын
Your mic needs a pop filter bra
@gaarn4000
@gaarn4000 6 жыл бұрын
YES
@NotetoSelf9292
@NotetoSelf9292 6 жыл бұрын
I'm giggling like an idiot during these games because this deck is so weird.
@drfunkburger3895
@drfunkburger3895 6 жыл бұрын
Nonsense utter nonsense but amazing all the same lol
@wholovesmeya
@wholovesmeya 5 жыл бұрын
lsv for god sake eat light before stream
@TheNeilChatelain
@TheNeilChatelain 6 жыл бұрын
#121
@harkelin
@harkelin 6 жыл бұрын
Leopold, mer N
@darrenhabib
@darrenhabib 6 жыл бұрын
I hate watching games with terrible opponents :( That guy with the Deathrite Shaman attacking with it, even though in the previous game got renanimation to death. Unwatchable at that stage.
@skuee
@skuee 6 жыл бұрын
Don't want to be rude but is it only me getting annoyed with the slurping sounds. All your videos have it, maybe you need to configure the sensitivity of your microphone.
@RW77777777
@RW77777777 6 жыл бұрын
I know I salivate when I Balance to prep my Emrakul for Shallow Grave
@RW77777777
@RW77777777 6 жыл бұрын
guys, I just had the worst realization. I've heard LSV say "good, good" in an eastern european accent on several occasions. It.. might.. not..be Saliva!!?! dundundun *dies* after revealing The Masquerade
@bananahands5271
@bananahands5271 6 жыл бұрын
LSV!!!!! Please move away from your mic, get a pop filter, and stop making me hear you swallow every five seconds.
@jordanyanowitz8694
@jordanyanowitz8694 6 жыл бұрын
Still managed to make a blue deck :(
@hennybuggy4
@hennybuggy4 6 жыл бұрын
3 blue cards out of 23 hardly makes it a "blue deck." You people constantly harping on LSV for playing blue sure are insufferable.
@jordanyanowitz8694
@jordanyanowitz8694 6 жыл бұрын
hennybuggy4 it was a joke let it go...
@bladeflesh
@bladeflesh 6 жыл бұрын
shit joke
@scottmUTCS
@scottmUTCS 6 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the hyperbole.
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