Vintage JBL L300 stereo system better than modern system? Tony's Killer System Room Tour.

[@fascination.sound.and.groove]

*I've been using my JBL 4341 for years. And I'm happy*

[@biscotti63]

Very unique set up. Tony really knows his stuff.

[@PerfDayToday]

Been running actives for three decades, love how it works!

[@antoniomontana2635]

What a video Thomas! Great video and great system! Keep up the good work JBL ROCKS

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗 THOMAS, HIS STORY PROVES THAT IT IS THE BEST TIME TO BE AN AUDIOPHILE 🤩🤩 With UTUBE and you we can go over to everyone’s house…and hear 👂 their story and hear their system 🤗😎 and experience it as never before,THANK TONY FOR SHARING HIS STORY 🤗😁💚💚💚

[@martinda7446]

Things always sound better at night because the noise floor has dropped, everyone is asleep and the world is quiet. It is a 10db dynamic range improvement for free.

[@heppy881]

Thanks again for an interesting video. I love the simplicity and authenticity of what you do. Very inspiring.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗👍😎ALWAYS LOOK 👀 FORWARD TO YOUR STORIES THOMAS 👏👏👏

[@johnbravo7542]

That Thorens plinth is gorgeoussssssss

[@AndyBHome]

That might be the most beautiful turntable I've ever seen, and I don't usually favor glossy finishes.

[@trekjudas]

Turntables are just freaking gorgeous! Especially this one!

[@Mrch33ky]

Sweeeeeet Jesus!

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

@@Mrch33ky New turntables of today just look cheap. Tons of plastic and never will youll never find suspension. They make them futuristic but I find, a turn table should always look a little vintage and not like a spaceship

[@antonchigurh4125]

Man that turntable is majestic! Ditto those speakers.. Ditto your listening space!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I never talked about how it sounds but the bass is so 'refine'

[@mrpositronia]

That system is something special to wake up to every morning! :)

[@MarkJones-bc5vx]

Beautiful setup. I like the fact that you tailored it just for you. The turntable is beautiful.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Thank you I always had a hard time with those Oracle futuristic turntables. For me it has to look a little old since well vinyle is old!

[@FOH3663]

​@@Montreal_Audio_Systems Wonderful. How did I miss this five years ago?! A kindred spirit, electrician, hifi enthusiast that appreciates power/dynamics are vital to the most engaging playback experience. If you've had a parallel pursuit of recording, mixing/mastering, and FOH engineering, ... I'll insist I've got a doppelganger! Dig the rig! Upsized, dedicated circuit feeding quality, high clamping force devices, supplying an active, multi-way, compression driver platform ... yes! Of course the TT and its aesthetic is gorgeous, ... however, my eye is on other items. Every element geared toward transient power and control, ... high burst current, minimal instantaneous voltage drop and compression. There's an invigorating immediacy and excitement that accompanies such dynamics done right. Any kind of peak current limiting on the line side, or the load side (compression), just robs the presentation of vitality, LF thickens subtly, slightly blurring bass detail. Even mixing on the biggest rigs in the best venues, the onset of that transition is clearly identifiable. Fortunately, most all of the best PA offerings today have all the power and dynamics that most indoor experiences require. So yeah, killer system you've assembled. Encountering Marchand active x/over in a system, one knows it's a savvy owner! I suspect there may be a few differences today, five years later. Either way, very cool. Brother.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Nelson Pass has and loves the JBL L300

[@chrisvinicombe9947]

Thanks Tony for showing us your system. I really like your thinking with the setup. That turntable is gorgeous. I didn't see any room treatments around which was surprising.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, we talked about room treatment, I guess I will cover it when I make a video on my own room.

[@pesto9]

Great vid! Man I'd love to hear that system.

[@rickp6731]

The all new Stratton Acoustics Elypsis 1512 Loudspeakers are the New Holy Grail of Speakers ?!

[@MathewMorrill]

Thomas, I really really enjoyed this video it was awesome! Love your channels content and the hard work you put into it!

[@bc527c]

Aces, Tony. Great work building this. I love everything about it and agree with your choices, wish I could hear it...

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

It would depend where your from!!

[@zoinkz8188]

Wow! This is by far my favorite setup video you have done Mr. Thomas! Tony’s system sounds like a dream, and that active crossover is really unique, you don’t see that too often! But what I can relate too is the sound of a true horn speaker. Recently I brought in the JBL studio 530’s into my system and I was floored by the dynamics and effortless portrayal of all the music I heard. Paired to my Luxman amp it’s an almost supernatural experience, nothing like it! Best $300 I have spent 😁👍

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Congrats on getting the JBLs!

[@Xx-xd3zo]

What amp? Am a Lux fan...

[@zoinkz8188]

@@Xx-xd3zo it’s a Luxman M-7 paired with the matching C-7 preamp. Cheers!

[@Xx-xd3zo]

@@zoinkz8188 - Thanks! Anytime someone gets a good synergy? That's gold. And the M-7 is a beautiful amp. Cheers.

[@johnsimmons5056]

I love these system videos you do. So interesting to see other peoples hifi gear. Thanks.

[@rctony710]

I agree it's nice to see what people listen too. I find it more interesting then speaker reviews since I won't be buying any for a while now

[@markd4292]

What a treat Thomas. What a absolute treat. Gosh I really dig the vintage sound. A neighbor up the street has vintage gear and speakers and it's just.....lovely. He said he'll take me over his friends house, who owns a pair of JBL Synthesis Everest speakers. That would be really neat to hear. I grew up listening to JBL and Techniques. Thank you again Thomas.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Maybe it's not a good thing to hear the Everest...the name says it all.

[@mikeables]

Mark D Beg to hear that system!!! If it is set up right that speaker can change your life. I have never heard a more lifelike sound.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

@@mikeables but then you'll spend your life trying to get that sound!!!! I would pay to hear them!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Mark for the great comment, appreciate it.

[@mikeables]

@@Montreal_Audio_Systems I went through a journey like all stereo buffs. My local audio shop buys used gear. I first heard the Paragon. I was stunned at the perfection of the crossover and smoothness. A year later he got an Everest pair and all I could compare them to were Klipsch horns. They blow those away on every metric. If my neighbor had a Bugatti or a Picasso, I would go see it. I would still appreciate the art on my fridge

[@jimminychristmas8100]

What a great setup Tony has going, the best of yesteryear. I've always believed things don't necessarily get better with new materials. I mean come on, tubes, horns, paper cones, fantastique mon ami!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

After hearing his system, I am even more convince gear from yesteryear can compete with today's system.

[@jimminychristmas8100]

@@ThomasAndStereo yeah me too, i have many older pieces and a few modern, nothing really high end. What I enjoy the most is my 10 year old Primaluna tube pre and poweramp into my 40plus yr.old Heresy I's!! I really would love to hear that Musical Paradise DAC in my old gear too.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@jimminychristmas8100 Thanks for sharing! Because my friends are into vintage system, I really respect and am amazed what they can do. I would argue in some aspects, they are better than today's gear.

[@davidwald2938]

I recently picked up a pair of mint JBL l96's for my bedroom. They sound so much better than my Wharfedale Lintons or Kef R300s. I know apples and oranges but I can only imagine what l300s must sound like! My L96s I got for a fraction of the price JBL is selling their much smaller new two ways. But then those are mainly fashion statements but for me its about the sound and while old JBLs may not have the fit and finish they sure to have it over many newer speakers in sound that is so amazingly clear and powerful I couldn't believe it. Goes to show you don't need fancy materials or special speaker connectors to get the best sound. Certainly no sub needed for older JBL'a...this is sound I was after. Mids and highs are also clearest and coherent I've heard. My Forte IVs are better but only after taming the horns with a special hybrid class A amp and lots of tubes. JBLs kill the Forte's with my AS2200 (mids and highs overbearing on Forte)

[@brandonkeenan2625]

Wanted to hear it

[@ZERO-CAPACITANCE]

Alright!!! You bought the lapel mic!! Excellent!! I just subscribed. Thank you.

[@eddylam224]

Fucking amazing... All the human effort, knowledge, experience, vision & passion that went into this system.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, lots of love he put into this system.

[@dynodin81]

I really enjoyed this video, left me with wanting to hear more of the process and thoughts.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

You should read up on active crossovers. There's so much to learn. Tony's system crosses over at -24 db octave. Passive speakers usually cross at -12 which means drivers mixing together more cause all sorts of problems distortion and linear phasing and cancellation! You can make a -24db passive but then the circuit will be doubled and complicated which will then cause other problems oviously

[@johncahill985]

Beautiful system The finish on the plinth is sublime

[@adnoHis1]

Wow, I'm drooling over those JBLs . Just The Best Loudspeakers, oh...and those MCs!!!

[@johnniearnold8476]

Thanks for showing this system Thomas ,,, takes me back to my 80s system here in Tasmania, which if you guys heard today would probably astound you , thats one lovely turntable, my system included Thorens td125, With Grace 714 teak tonearm with Supex sd900 mc, Also Luxman PD 444 a long SME, and a Stax carbon fibre arm, With Koetsu rosewood mc. Luxman C12 preamp, a pair of B12 mono amps, a custom made electronic crossover, a Bose 1801 power amp , driving Acoustic Research AR 9 speakers (1801 for the 4 12inch bass drivers the luxman handling the top end, all in a custom designed room) one often could easily pickup thinks like trains and underground back ground noises in those British recordings, we also had Stax Sigma, and Lamda Earspeakers.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, I have to say I really enjoy listening to vintage systems. It feels more like a "V8" muscle car compared to today's wimpy turbocharged cars. Btw, omg, that was one killer system you had.

[@johnniearnold8476]

@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks Thomas , Always enjoy your videos,, you have a great take on what makes for great sounding gear. One has to be a little obsessed to be good at something, you have some wonderful gear. I was fortunate enough to be around some great musical instruments that crossed my work bench, in my guitar making days during 80s, sound has always been my first love, Good Classical guitars are especially great for testing a system's ability, I have some of the best sounding recordings ever done, Iam contactable thru facebook and instagram, let me know , I would be happy to send you a selection, .. I f ever you are in Aus. Check out TAS. Were a good friendly bunch here🐧👍

[@hifiman4562]

Thomas: "What?!", that's exactly how I feel. Very envious.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I know! $1k! What the ....

[@hifiman4562]

@@ThomasAndStereo I can appreciate his attention to detail. Every item is well researched and carefully chosen. The bonus is this - if he needs to make a change then it's not difficult to pull an item and replace it.

[@bernhardmichaelfux308]

@@ThomasAndStereo 1K for the Plinth doesn`t wonder me. It`s a masterpiece, especially the surface! This Palisander/Makassar Wood is very hard to cover with Laquer due to the chemical reactions this wood makes when touched with Laquer. Some of these veneers need a lot of preparation, and this costs them money. Back in the early 80ies/ending 70ies, we made the Office Furniture of our Boss`s Son, who joined our company after his master-education, out of this wood, and I swear you, the surface of the palisander wood was our biggest concern when we made it.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@bernhardmichaelfux308 thanks for explaining. Definitely appreciate more the work out into it with your explanation.

[@hatu5798]

Your friend knew how to match that's the main thing can outplayed much more expensive system I believe it 👍👏

[@54tristin]

Best reviews on you tube!

[@Constantin1020]

Ohhh, and the Thorens turntable looks amazing

[@i20010]

Wow, amazing system and presentation, thank you! I didnt know about this crossover thing. It probably sounds amazingly good.

[@Constantin1020]

Incredible system, thanks for sharing Thomas and congratulation on your friend for this unique system

[@Diatonic5th]

That turntable is a work of art! Great video!

[@Claus-CaptainPhoenixCorner]

Interesting - but it very - VERY! - hard to understand why your friend has a WaxTime-copy of "Way Out West" (9:16 - second record in the left row) when he offers so much money on the equipment. The WaxTime-releases are sub-standard and made from a CD-source since WaxTime has no acces to the original mastertapes.

[@jackryder6732]

Very well presented. Great story

[@acid1966]

A faithful client of the 33 tours Awesome system!

[@robertbosson5223]

Going to get myself a copy of this bad boy rumble checker!

[@thetruthspeaker5101]

I was under the impression that you were going to play the Ruggiero Ricci album on your friends music system so that we could hear that particular train rumble you mentioned.?.?.?

[@deangale4496]

Love to know more about the crossover, 24db per octave ? Frequency? Are they alterable ?

[@rctony710]

Yep you can alter them to 12 ,24 and I beleive 6?? 24 is great for least amount of distrortion. When multiple drivers play same frequencies they cause so many problems and so with a steep 24 slope it cuts that in half!

[@rajarahman2655]

AWESOME SETUP. THOUGHT, DEDICATION, TIME AND MONEY, OF COURSE. Don’t forget though people, the record buying public from generations gone by would have a had a basic set up of a record player, amp, cassette deck and speakers. That’s how you listened to music and not forgotten the radio either. So, even if your system DOES NOT MATCH THE QUALITY OF THIS SYSTEM, nothing should not stop you listening to the music you like, IN ANY FORMAT. Technology has moved on and bands, musicians know this. So, don’t feel embarrassed by what you have, no harm in dreaming, JUST PUT ON YOUR RECORD, TAPE , CD in your system AND PLAY. None of my units, separates are modified. Just as they left the shop. TECHNICS, ROTEL, KENWOOD, SONY, YAMAHA, B&W, WHARFEDALE, LINN, MARANTZ, PANASONIC, NAD. THATS ALL I HAVE. DO I ENJOY LISTENING TO MY MUSIC? YES I DO. I did not buy everything in one go. I bought what I wanted, when I could afford it. Family comes first. SO. Put on your CUSTER OF THE WEST SOUNDTRACK RECORD ON, AND ENJOY. That’s me, then I’ll play, CELTIC FROST: TO MEGATHERION. I personally have no idea, how many records I have have but my kids did a basic bit of math. They measured the space of twenty records and and proceeded to count that space taken by twenty records. They came out with the figure of, 3,840 records. I don’t count the records. I listen to them in my spare time. Cassettes number about two thousand, but a lot of them are bootleg tapes of shows gone by. METALLICA LIVE IN SWEDEN 1984 and so on. ENJOY MUSIC PEOPLE.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice! Enjoy the music and thanks for the comment.

[@jimminychristmas8100]

Great video as always, Thomas!

[@anderssoderlind90]

It's reminds me to finish my Thorens TD125.

[@edwardbarr1533]

A test employed by the old IMF company for its transmission line bass speakers was the Kingsway Hall Undergound Test EMIdid little to reduce the same Tony knews his stuff A most enjoyable video Thankyou

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Edward, this is great information!

[@theaudiophilebarista2424]

@14:32 Yes, coffee and audio 😎👍

[@sogcezar]

The Audiophile Barista Coffee & Jazz

[@theaudiophilebarista2424]

@@sogcezar That's nice too, but this was a reference to my name 😉

[@sogcezar]

The Audiophile Barista I’m was also a professional barista back in the day...now I’m a K-9 handler. Being a home barista now, I have a LaCimbali M21 casa junior with a rotary pump, all treatment for the water that goes into it, a Ditting 804 LabSweet and e Ceado E37J for espresso only. My daughter and I listen to Jazz everyday and I’ve spent thousands of dollars with Audio Equipment so we could enjoy music the best way possible... So yes, we both enjoy some nice coffee and hi-end audio. Rock on my fellow audiophile barista.

[@theaudiophilebarista2424]

cezar sogcezar That’s a serious espresso setup you have there. Nice 😀 I’m rocking a Rocket R58 machine that makes me very happy. What audio equipment do you use if I may ask?

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

@@theaudiophilebarista2424 Tony here from the video I got an Expobar Brewtus e61 dual boiler and I love it! I had a pavoni modded with PID before. Ithink I have videos on all that on my channel

[@dizzy6745]

Beautiful turntable and a great video!

[@Welcome0002]

Hi, i have a JBL L300 and would lime to try the X over and the specs, do you have the info for the X over specs pls.

[@rctony710]

Message me at [e-mail] I have everything for your needs

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

You'll never go back to passive at least get the sub active and the highs keep it passive

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

If your crossover is original it is out of spec and it's done it's time. Besides there's new technology in capacitors now.

[@jajessee]

Great video. Thanks.

[@Toogoodtobetrue458]

Great stuff 👍 more than just a hobby - it’s a passion. Really love looking systems simple or extensive.

[@dilbyjones]

Great Job Thomas !

[@charlesludwig9173]

JBL L200's, L300's and 4367's are today's reigning World Heavyweight Champion Speakers. Perhaps why the 200's and 300's fetch 5 times their original cost in excellent condition. Still cheaper than $15,000 for today's 4367's.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Burt Lancatti !! Was the Andrew Jones of his time, from JBL L-series to Pioneer HPM series ! Love my overhauled HPM 100s still unbeatable to my ear opion on my front end setup very nice system by the way !!! Thank you for sharing !

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Tee-Jay for dropping by!

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

@@ThomasAndStereo thank you Thomas, Thomas i been working to much lately, and this past morning i did my review of the STACK and it was so awful i deleted it ! Really bummed out with that . So for the nexted couple of days going to rest alot and retry the review again This coming saturday . Heres my Email [e-mail]

[@JEG6919]

Bart Locanthi, CalTech grad. Got TAD up and running for Pioneer and TAD was the first to use Beryllium for compression drivers.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

@@JEG6919 thank you for the info , huge Fan of Burt L ! Have you tried the Pioneer HPM-150s ? Thomas is a great a very good reviewer , watching Thomas's utube videos, truely matured my way of thinking in Audio terms reminds me of my late O'sensei 😆

[@JEG6919]

Tee-Jay The Stereo-Bargin-File l've tried other brands, but I've always come back to JBL. TAD pioneer stuff is excellent as well. Rey Audio makes monitors using TAD pro components. They too are top notch. Augspurger monitor used to as well.

[@denniswade4998]

Thank you, Thomas! That was enjoyable, interesting, and also educating! I think the point I came away with the most is how important it is to have good synergy in your gear in every point. This takes a good knowledge of just what sound you are looking for, as well as a good understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of each piece of gear and how they compliment each other. I like that he knew each piece of gear well enough to know just how to mod it for better results. This takes a lot of time and research. It is also an incredibly beautiful system to look at. I wish I could hear it!

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Yes it takes a lot of time everytime you change even a cable you have to relisten to your favorite songs and see what you gained and what you may have lost!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Dennis, yeah lot of time and sweat was put into it.

[@bphilbac]

Very cool Thomas! Thanks for sharing.

[@artfartzy]

Wish there was a short sound demo so we could hear it :)

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

What song you wanna hear?

[@artfartzy]

@@Montreal_Audio_Systems Ooh I dunno something that sounds good :) Depends what you have, if you have streaming like Tidal maybe you can find this one, Hanne Boel - After Midnight kzbin.info/www/bejne/bauch6Wmqr2FpZo Or this one from Steely Dan kzbin.info/www/bejne/moipoGR5dsRsr80

[@kohnfutner9637]

But don't you know you'd only be hearing your headphones? 🤣 Nah man I'm with you. Even if you can't hear perfectly you can hear some things that might bother you. It's always good to hear sounds demos regardless of what trolls say.

[@Xx-xd3zo]

@@kohnfutner9637 - Hear-hear! (No pun.) As if you can't tell about systems through video... Sure. Play a video of a top notch system, then a crappy-assed one. Tell me you don't hear a different even through the crappiest earbuds.

[@kohnfutner9637]

@@Xx-xd3zo yeah i would hear a difference. I hear differences in 2 good systems also.

[@CUDAbuster]

I don't know how I missed this review, but this is great! I like plenty of modern gear, but love the higher end vintage equipment and sound. Similar to what was experienced here, I find the same thing to be true, in that there is detail reveal on certain tracks that come through excellently on vintage, horn driver based speakers. I have a pair of Altec A7 and Valencias which always I go back to regardless of anything that has come out in the past ten years (or at least anything in that time that I've come across, even at audio shows). The large bass driver with large cabinet coupled with horn top section does something magical. Particularly rewarding with classical, movie scores, quartets and your typical Phile music. Good stuff man!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice, thaks for sharing. Always wanted to listen to Altec speakers.

[@CUDAbuster]

@@ThomasAndStereo I think you would love the Altec Valencia 846B. I have the older 846A, which are 16 ohm and even though the cabinet is fancier than the 846B, it is not port tuned as well as the B and the B has more powerful, 8ohm woofer. Maybe the horns in both are similar. I gutted the insulation on mine and lined them wall to wall with no-rez prograde acoustic foam and added a few pounds of acoustic fiber. This made a significant improvement on the bass output. I absolutely love these. Either the A or B model is something I'm sure you would enjoy. If you still have the McIntosh amps, those would pair perfectly. The DACs. And all that other nuanced stuff is just not a big factor in running these high efficiency, high output speakers. Sound stage is enormous. The A-7's are quite a bit larger and I had to do some modifications on mine for home use. I.e. I redid the cabinet dampening, custom built a front ported baffle and built a custom crossover with L-pad. It dropped the bass output by an octave at a slight expense of efficiency, but is still around 100 db/ 1W/M. The linearity was also improved. Now they are "Phile" speakers made for home use and mind blowing to listen to. Let's face it, as far back as the 1960's, they knew how to build excellent HiFi gear, big and bold, but the WAF torpedoed those systems and we ended up with mostly weeny junk for a couple decades. Now people are realizing how phenomenal those old designs were and big as speakers are making a comeback with the Phile crowd. BTW, congrats on launching your amp. I'll bet that would pair sweetly with some vintage Altecs!

[@marvinmurakami8828]

I remember hearing the Altec Model 19 in stereo stores back in the day. Awesome transparent, powerful sound coming from those behemoths.

[@Mrch33ky]

It's a lot of work to get the sound you want. But it's worth it!

[@johnbrewer2206]

Nice set of 300s I just recently built a set of crossover networks for a set for a buddy.

[@pithyginger6371]

I really want to own an updated vintage jbl system some day...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Me too!

[@eggshellskullrule7971]

That L300 is a consumer version of my 4320. I use 4 of them. I too have been on them for a few years with nothing felt wrong in any way.

[@craigellsworth3952]

The L300 is the consumer version of the 4333. The 4320 is an earlier version with the bullet tweeter.

[@ysk249]

I have 4 sets of vintage JBL speakers and 3 sets of modern Harbeths. In my system, JBLs are on another level. In comparison to my Harbeth Compact 7-ES3 and P3-ESR 40th speakers that cost $3000, the vintage JBLs that I bought on eBay for $150-500 deliver a punchier sound, dynamic sound, and deeper soundstage when used with Tidal/ the Mytek Brooklyn DAC. JBL's alnico drivers designed in the 70s are way better than the Harbeth's radial 2 drivers in my listening environment. Give them a listen and you won't be disappointed.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice, incredible value for $500 then.

[@light_bringer]

Fantastic video!

[@kohnfutner9637]

If you want big sound have multiple front speakers (I like a floorstanding and bookshelf on adjustable stand) and have the tweeters at different heights. I.e. have tweeters one above the other, pointed at purposedly different dedicated points (not at anyone or any place but at a wall or corner) and the highs become less directionary because high frequencies are very direct sounding, that's why horns are better to disperse higher frequency.. Have speakers all across your front wall. Include two woofers firing at front wall in front of your front wall speakers. Big axx soundstage. Big pressurized bass, cymbals clap as wide as a drum kit and vocals as full as a coliseum. A little distortion will not kill you, even concerts have distortion at high volumes during moments of complete silence. Do not become obsessed as some have. Know when good is good. Moderation is key to life, extremes of any direction is not good and cause discontent.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

I've tried multiple speakers when I was young man I took every speaker I could find and hooked it up it was probably really hard on the amp and we'll let me tell you man it sounded bad it was loud but waves comeing at you from everywhere rebounding at you was just awful.

[@marvinmartian7281]

JBL's from that era are still the best.

[@marvinmartian7281]

I have just bought a pair of JBL 4411 Wonderful! indeed.

[@omgwtfpwnd]

Nah, I’ve purchased JBL 4333 and 4345 from Kenrick Sound. They were muddy and sucked. Good thing there’s a huge Vietnamese JBL community near me to buy them for around the same price I purchased them for.

[@dksculpture]

I wonder how Klipsch Cornwall IV's would sound with that active crossover and those 3 Mac amps? Better, worse or similar to the JBL L300?

[@rctony710]

Much better then with the old passive crossover that's for sure. You can't compare. I'm actually selling a active crossover which would be perfect for your klipsch. You'd just need 3 amps preferably all 3 the same and a bunch more wires lol.

[@dksculpture]

@@rctony710 My Cornwalls are only a few days old, so I'm keeping them stock for now. There's no doubt that passive crossovers create problems.My question was more to whether Tony's system would sound better or worse if he replaced the JBL cabinet and drivers with the latest comparable Klipsch offering - also replacing the Klipsch crossover with a similar active one and 3 power amps?

[@rctony710]

@@dksculpture well you can say they are a very close comparison. Both have a 15" and compression drivers. They are lighter although. You can bi amp them so at least you can start with that. That's how he started off. First he biamped then went active 2way and eventually 3way active!

[@rctony710]

I also have a 2way active crossover for you if your interested. Would be great to start. You'll be blown away when you hear an amplifier having direct control over the sub.

[@felixlaboy1453]

Amazing as always

[@Waitaminutesilly]

In what tracks and at minute mark can i hear that subway rumblings?

[@antoniomontana2635]

The hole album has the train passes quite often in the first song carmine fantasies just before the quiet part you hear it easily. Your amp preAmp speakers all have to be able to go low.

[@Waitaminutesilly]

@@antoniomontana2635 have you tried the KZbin version? Can you hear it as well?

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

@@Waitaminutesilly no I haven't but I will...eventually

[@epg2501]

Have you done any crossover brand comparisons? Since I use a tube pre and have a dac I like I think I want to stay analog. As such I’ve only seen the Marchand and Sublime.

[@andrewcrain5461]

Hey Thomas I finally found a ok match for that bright old adcom I put a pair of McIntosh LS350 and it sounded pretty good they seemed to smooth that top end out ! Just sharing some of my journey ! Nice video....INJOY THE MUSIC

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Andrew and congrates!

[@mr.george7687]

My stock Thorens TD 125 is sooo jealous!

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Its very good stock! They are very good low noise but need maintenance every now and then. Nowadays they don't make them suspended anymore because people are lazy and couldn't be bothered and just won't have the patience or knowledge.

[@0bzen22]

In one year, he found his sound. I'm guessing that's what Thomas is the most envious about :D

[@ThomasAndStereo]

yup, I responded to that in the video originally but edited it out to shorten the video.

[@bernhardmichaelfux308]

@@ThomasAndStereo But it`s no shame to say something like that! In this case, I think it honors the Guy we are jealous of.. lol

[@AirDOGGe]

A friend of mine had some L300s and Carver separates (tuner, preamp and power amp). He put on the Doors' "L.A. Woman" and I was floored. I've heard the song countless times and I have heard very high end systems before, but that was the first time it sounded like the band was right in front of me playing live. I have a pair of L100t's and a pair of L36's myself.

[@shinvergil]

Enjoyable video, thanks. And you seem thinner, i hope you are healthier as well.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, yeah I went on KETO diet and lost about 30 pounds overall.

[@ChasingGiants23]

HOW COOL IS THAT. AND THAT THORENS IS THE BEST TURNTABLE.IVE LAID EYES ON!

[@buttonman1831]

"nothing bothers me" We all say that , for awhile lol

[@Esprits4s]

what a beautiful TT

[@mr.george7687]

Who sez, real Audiophiles don't have JBL speakers!

[@rctony710]

Depressed people with flat systems and no bass

[@MichelLinschoten]

george vera jbl is one of the best speaker fabricator out there .. I don’t give a damn what an audiophile says lol

[@mr.george7687]

@@MichelLinschoten I agree, my first pair of speakers were L100's Sold them after some years. been through 6 pairs of audiophile speakers & came back to JBL 4321C's will keep forever.Would love to have L300's too much $$$$ today.

[@markbrook8395]

I love my JBL's. They will take anything I can throw at them, and play it with authority. JBL 4502 studio monitors. They are basically the professional series L300.

[@canacura]

Mark Brook The 4333 are the studio equivalent of L300’s not the 4502’s!

[@rdh67dh]

I mixed my vintage B&W matrix 805 H with a NAD C658 + C268 and it sounds awesome. Ordered a REL T9i to support the low better. Mix it up when you can. I love my icon 805 baby's.

[@ralex3697]

Thomas thanks for your interesting vids

[@roymindmybusiness6908]

Thanks Thomas this is very interesting to me as i own upgraded JBL 300 as recommended by Nelson Pass -unfortunately they were destroyed by couriors on rebuild so they are just shadows of themselves -same bass driver etc sad -fabulous musical speakers

[@rctony710]

The active crossover crosses at the same frequency as the updated Nelson pass crossover. Nelson still owns a pair of l300!

[@roymindmybusiness6908]

@@rctony710 $7k spent on mine black walnut pro veneer $2k crossovers ability to also use my DEQX crossover drivers perfect -crushed by scumbags ! your system is magic

[@robk5745]

never been interested in hearing a room more than this... what did it sound like?

[@ericbrown5744]

Beautiful room and setup. Wow! Most of my setup is 80s gear and I have to agree that you can get as good of performance out of vintage as modern gear. Great video Thomas - thanks for sharing! Thanks Tony!

[@bertroost1675]

I always think, just enjoy, no need to compare.

[@mervinmckenzie4628]

It would be a dream to hear this system. You'll need a lot of cash to beat a systen like so🔥🔥👍👌

[@hifiman4562]

That would be a fun challenge: Who can equal or best this or any system for the least amount of money.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

@@hifiman4562 you'll have to go active to even start to compete if you ask me and it will have to be a little big as well. Active = a lot of clean detail and a big speaker will give you a big clean sound! Stay aways from 1980's speakers those big ones where usually made to look cool and for parties.

[@martyjewell5683]

Nice video of a sweet system. A point about bass response. Speakers shouldn't add bass. Bass should only be reproduced if it's present in the source. That said, few recordings have bass below 30Hz, in fact what most folks think of as "deep bass" is really in the 40 to 60Hz range. Also, how deep do you need to go?? Record warp is in the single digit frequencies. My subsonic filter is 18dB/oct@15Hz. My favorite speakers are Ohm model H systems that are -3dB @ 32Hz. I've listened to EV Interface D systems that are capable of SUSTAINED output of 28Hz at over 100dB's. What you hear/feel at frequencies below, say, 25Hz are more sound effects; train rumble (as you mention), thunder or cannon (1812 Overture and Wellington's Victory). If your hifi system can reproduce this information, swell. Most of us can live "happily ever after" with speakers that have useful bass to 40Hz. You are an astute man Thomas and I really enjoy you various subjects of hifi. Well done and happy holidays.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

That makes a lot of sense. 40hz is pretty good already and to get more, adding a good sub can also be one solution. Thanks for commenting.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

Like this interview style video much like Steve Gutenberg. Keep them coming!

[@mikelangelo3997]

Is it possible to know, which tubes does Tony use in his Cary Audio SLP-03 preamp?

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Actually it's Thomas who changed the tubes! He would know!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I was the one who changed it for him but it is so long ago that I forgot.

[@mikelangelo3997]

@@ThomasAndStereo Aaaa Thomas :) Joking or what :) I would love to know which one he used :) If you remember in any case, any time, let me know :) By the way, great system :) Enjoy guys.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@mikelangelo3997 Thanks. No seriously! If you go over like 100+ gears as I do in just the last few years, it is impossible to keep track of stuff unless I write it down.

[@mikelangelo3997]

@@ThomasAndStereo Hey, that's great. It's good to have that much, as for remembering it, I think it's impossible. We all try to do what we do best, ofcourse without mistakes, that's why we loose on other courts, me as well I wouldn't remember after that much work.

[@carlsitler9071]

Big speakers are the best. My 3-way Marantz SP1515 have 15" woofers and are around 3' x 2' x 1'. Feel the bass.

[@teleka8480]

The tonearm in the thorens td125, is an Alphason HR100!

[@cranky1812]

Great audio setup, just curious about it's performance with different genres of music?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Ah, hope Tony will answer.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Ah!!! That's a good question!!!! That's where these JBL'S COME IN!!!!! THERE GOOD AT EVERYTING!!!! FROM ROCK TO JAZZ TO RAP TO VOCAL INSTRUMENTALS AND EVEN SYMPHONIES CAN SOUND FULL BLOWN!!!?

[@cranky1812]

@@Montreal_Audio_Systems thanks for the reply.

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

@@cranky1812 that is the main reason why I go into JBL's ! They come from proffesional studio monitors but the l300 were for home use with the slant and glass top. They have to be good for all genres of there like monitors. They aren't flat like monitors because they were originally used with controllable pots for adjusting sound preference! It's truly the best being able to play everything!

[@cranky1812]

@@Montreal_Audio_Systems wow, maybe one day I'll be able to afford a pair.

[@stephenlegg262]

Hi from Wales. Beautiful equipment. Bet it sounds amazing. I understand you say it’s vintage but how much of it is actually vintage as it’s been upgraded so much.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Well, semi-vintage then!

[@softtack]

Hi Thomas, I noticed you had a pair of Omega Super Alnico’s in another video. What was your impression of them?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I just film a video and will be uploading shortly

[@syecheong]

@Thomas & Stereo Hi..Which track is it you can hear the rumbling of the train track?

[@rosspulsford9916]

Awesome Thomas so very interesting brilliant.

[@epg2501]

Thinking about picking up a Marchand XM66 in a two way setup with Maggies and REL’s.

[@sc51153826]

what a great system, so lovingly put together 😱😱😱😍😍😍 it's very exciting when you listen to a true "discrete" active system (as to an all-in-one budget active speaker) the seamlessness, speed, and control is phenomenal. Hopefully, someday this kind of performance can trickle down to the all-in-one active speakers. 🤞🏻 Tony, thank you for letting us into your home and showing us your system👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks Simon for acknowledging Tony. He will surely appreciate it.

[@sc51153826]

@@ThomasAndStereo It is really amazing how much time and work he put into refining his system, great effort, a true old-school audiophile in the very best way!

[@Montreal_Audio_Systems]

Where you from Simon?

[@sc51153826]

@@Montreal_Audio_Systems I'm in Hong Kong now, but I used to live in Toronto, and sold Hifi years ago.

[@peterream9437]

Thats's one well crafted system,its more like a recording studio system, as he's gone active. Be interesting to hear that tack on cd, played on a Rega Isis cdp.

[@donaldfletcher3284]

I hear the tracks rumble starting at or about 2 min 21 seconds into the recording continuing to about 2 min 44 seconds. Is that were you noticed it Thomas?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I was told It is in the whole album actually. I only heard it once so I don't know the time stamp. The real challenge is if I did not tell you about it, would you have been able to tell what it was?

[@donaldfletcher3284]

@@ThomasAndStereo I did not listen to the actual album on a turntable. I listened online, youtube. While there was a cadence to the rumble sound I could not determine it to be train tracks. I could not hear it throughout the recording, just in the section previously noted.

[@normalman6686]

So nice. Enjoy.