Vintage JBL L300 stereo system better than modern system? Tony's Killer System Room Tour.

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Thomas & Stereo

Thomas & Stereo

4 жыл бұрын

#audiophile system #stereo system review #stereo speakers review #JBL #JBL L300
Introducing Tony's stereo system. Very revealing and it has incredible bass.
Upgraded JBL L300
Thorens TD 125 LB custom ebony TT
ORACLE acrylic mat
Pro-Ject record clamp
Alphason HR-100MCS reference tonearm
Dynavector 20x2 Low output MC cartridge
Audio Technica AT-605 Isolation feet
Pro-Ject Tube Box DS Tungsram tubes
SWAGMAN Labs linear PSU upgraded
Laptop with foobar2000
MicroMega Mydac
USB Disrupter cable
Cary Audio SLP-03 preamplifier
MARCHAND XM44 3way active crossover
McIntosh Mc2200 amp for subs
Mcintosh Mc2200 amp for mid horns
Mcintosh Mc2120 amp for tweeters
Dedicated 20amp power line with 10awg wires and 10awg power bars/plugs hospital grade
Cables by Wireworld, MIT, Antares, Van den hul, Monster

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@fascination.sound.and.groove
@fascination.sound.and.groove 10 ай бұрын
*I've been using my JBL 4341 for years. And I'm happy*
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
🤗 THOMAS, HIS STORY PROVES THAT IT IS THE BEST TIME TO BE AN AUDIOPHILE 🤩🤩 With UTUBE and you we can go over to everyone’s house…and hear 👂 their story and hear their system 🤗😎 and experience it as never before,THANK TONY FOR SHARING HIS STORY 🤗😁💚💚💚
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 4 жыл бұрын
Things always sound better at night because the noise floor has dropped, everyone is asleep and the world is quiet. It is a 10db dynamic range improvement for free.
@PerfDayToday
@PerfDayToday 4 жыл бұрын
Been running actives for three decades, love how it works!
@antonchigurh4125
@antonchigurh4125 4 жыл бұрын
Man that turntable is majestic! Ditto those speakers.. Ditto your listening space!
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I never talked about how it sounds but the bass is so 'refine'
@stanleymah3010
@stanleymah3010 4 жыл бұрын
Very unique set up. Tony really knows his stuff.
@heppy881
@heppy881 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for an interesting video. I love the simplicity and authenticity of what you do. Very inspiring.
@antoniomontana2635
@antoniomontana2635 4 жыл бұрын
What a video Thomas! Great video and great system! Keep up the good work JBL ROCKS
@MarkJones-bc5vx
@MarkJones-bc5vx 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful setup. I like the fact that you tailored it just for you. The turntable is beautiful.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems Жыл бұрын
Thank you I always had a hard time with those Oracle futuristic turntables. For me it has to look a little old since well vinyle is old!
@johnsimmons5056
@johnsimmons5056 4 жыл бұрын
I love these system videos you do. So interesting to see other peoples hifi gear. Thanks.
@rctony710
@rctony710 4 жыл бұрын
I agree it's nice to see what people listen too. I find it more interesting then speaker reviews since I won't be buying any for a while now
@pesto9
@pesto9 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Man I'd love to hear that system.
@i20010
@i20010 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing system and presentation, thank you! I didnt know about this crossover thing. It probably sounds amazingly good.
@chrisvinicombe9947
@chrisvinicombe9947 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony for showing us your system. I really like your thinking with the setup. That turntable is gorgeous. I didn't see any room treatments around which was surprising.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we talked about room treatment, I guess I will cover it when I make a video on my own room.
@MathewMorrill
@MathewMorrill 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas, I really really enjoyed this video it was awesome! Love your channels content and the hard work you put into it!
@johnbravo7542
@johnbravo7542 4 жыл бұрын
That Thorens plinth is gorgeoussssssss
@AndyBHome
@AndyBHome 4 жыл бұрын
That might be the most beautiful turntable I've ever seen, and I don't usually favor glossy finishes.
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 4 жыл бұрын
Turntables are just freaking gorgeous! Especially this one!
@Mrch33ky
@Mrch33ky 4 жыл бұрын
Sweeeeeet Jesus!
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mrch33ky New turntables of today just look cheap. Tons of plastic and never will youll never find suspension. They make them futuristic but I find, a turn table should always look a little vintage and not like a spaceship
@johncahill985
@johncahill985 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful system The finish on the plinth is sublime
@hatu5798
@hatu5798 4 жыл бұрын
Your friend knew how to match that's the main thing can outplayed much more expensive system I believe it 👍👏
@bc527c
@bc527c 4 жыл бұрын
Aces, Tony. Great work building this. I love everything about it and agree with your choices, wish I could hear it...
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
It would depend where your from!!
@Constantin1020
@Constantin1020 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible system, thanks for sharing Thomas and congratulation on your friend for this unique system
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
🤗👍😎ALWAYS LOOK 👀 FORWARD TO YOUR STORIES THOMAS 👏👏👏
@Diatonic5th
@Diatonic5th 4 жыл бұрын
That turntable is a work of art! Great video!
@dynodin81
@dynodin81 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, left me with wanting to hear more of the process and thoughts.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
You should read up on active crossovers. There's so much to learn. Tony's system crosses over at -24 db octave. Passive speakers usually cross at -12 which means drivers mixing together more cause all sorts of problems distortion and linear phasing and cancellation! You can make a -24db passive but then the circuit will be doubled and complicated which will then cause other problems oviously
@jimminychristmas8100
@jimminychristmas8100 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Thomas!
@zoinkz8188
@zoinkz8188 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is by far my favorite setup video you have done Mr. Thomas! Tony’s system sounds like a dream, and that active crossover is really unique, you don’t see that too often! But what I can relate too is the sound of a true horn speaker. Recently I brought in the JBL studio 530’s into my system and I was floored by the dynamics and effortless portrayal of all the music I heard. Paired to my Luxman amp it’s an almost supernatural experience, nothing like it! Best $300 I have spent 😁👍
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on getting the JBLs!
@Xx-xd3zo
@Xx-xd3zo 9 ай бұрын
What amp? Am a Lux fan...
@zoinkz8188
@zoinkz8188 9 ай бұрын
@@Xx-xd3zo it’s a Luxman M-7 paired with the matching C-7 preamp. Cheers!
@Xx-xd3zo
@Xx-xd3zo 9 ай бұрын
@@zoinkz8188 - Thanks! Anytime someone gets a good synergy? That's gold. And the M-7 is a beautiful amp. Cheers.
@user-cb1vo1ik4b
@user-cb1vo1ik4b 4 жыл бұрын
my system was magical around 12 midnight, noise floor drops significantly when the neighbors are all in bed and not using electricity, lights, appliances, etc...i agree I don't care for powers conditioners., one of them I purchased being an expensive (ChangLitespeed), they do as advertised but rob all your dynamics in the process... your an electrician so I'm sure you are familiar with isolation transformers... they do a good job lowering the noise floor and increasing blackness, putting instruments in their own space with greater decay....very nice system you have put together, I really enjoy my JBL, 4343s,
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
The conditioners can decrease dynamics from my experience
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to hear a JBL 4343, congrats. Isolation transformers? Yeah my vintage friend has a few of those. I almost got one myself.
@mrpositronia
@mrpositronia 4 жыл бұрын
That system is something special to wake up to every morning! :)
@dizzy6745
@dizzy6745 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful turntable and a great video!
@adnoHis1
@adnoHis1 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm drooling over those JBLs . Just The Best Loudspeakers, oh...and those MCs!!!
@felixlaboy1453
@felixlaboy1453 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always
@denniswade4998
@denniswade4998 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thomas! That was enjoyable, interesting, and also educating! I think the point I came away with the most is how important it is to have good synergy in your gear in every point. This takes a good knowledge of just what sound you are looking for, as well as a good understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of each piece of gear and how they compliment each other. I like that he knew each piece of gear well enough to know just how to mod it for better results. This takes a lot of time and research. It is also an incredibly beautiful system to look at. I wish I could hear it!
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it takes a lot of time everytime you change even a cable you have to relisten to your favorite songs and see what you gained and what you may have lost!
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis, yeah lot of time and sweat was put into it.
@bphilbac
@bphilbac 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool Thomas! Thanks for sharing.
@54tristin
@54tristin 4 жыл бұрын
Best reviews on you tube!
@Constantin1020
@Constantin1020 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, and the Thorens turntable looks amazing
@rajarahman2655
@rajarahman2655 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME SETUP. THOUGHT, DEDICATION, TIME AND MONEY, OF COURSE. Don’t forget though people, the record buying public from generations gone by would have a had a basic set up of a record player, amp, cassette deck and speakers. That’s how you listened to music and not forgotten the radio either. So, even if your system DOES NOT MATCH THE QUALITY OF THIS SYSTEM, nothing should not stop you listening to the music you like, IN ANY FORMAT. Technology has moved on and bands, musicians know this. So, don’t feel embarrassed by what you have, no harm in dreaming, JUST PUT ON YOUR RECORD, TAPE , CD in your system AND PLAY. None of my units, separates are modified. Just as they left the shop. TECHNICS, ROTEL, KENWOOD, SONY, YAMAHA, B&W, WHARFEDALE, LINN, MARANTZ, PANASONIC, NAD. THATS ALL I HAVE. DO I ENJOY LISTENING TO MY MUSIC? YES I DO. I did not buy everything in one go. I bought what I wanted, when I could afford it. Family comes first. SO. Put on your CUSTER OF THE WEST SOUNDTRACK RECORD ON, AND ENJOY. That’s me, then I’ll play, CELTIC FROST: TO MEGATHERION. I personally have no idea, how many records I have have but my kids did a basic bit of math. They measured the space of twenty records and and proceeded to count that space taken by twenty records. They came out with the figure of, 3,840 records. I don’t count the records. I listen to them in my spare time. Cassettes number about two thousand, but a lot of them are bootleg tapes of shows gone by. METALLICA LIVE IN SWEDEN 1984 and so on. ENJOY MUSIC PEOPLE.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Enjoy the music and thanks for the comment.
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job Thomas !
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 жыл бұрын
Like this interview style video much like Steve Gutenberg. Keep them coming!
@eddylam224
@eddylam224 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking amazing... All the human effort, knowledge, experience, vision & passion that went into this system.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, lots of love he put into this system.
@zerocapacitance1
@zerocapacitance1 4 жыл бұрын
Alright!!! You bought the lapel mic!! Excellent!! I just subscribed. Thank you.
@charlesludwig9173
@charlesludwig9173 4 жыл бұрын
JBL L200's, L300's and 4367's are today's reigning World Heavyweight Champion Speakers. Perhaps why the 200's and 300's fetch 5 times their original cost in excellent condition. Still cheaper than $15,000 for today's 4367's.
@ralex3697
@ralex3697 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas thanks for your interesting vids
@acid1966
@acid1966 2 жыл бұрын
A faithful client of the 33 tours Awesome system!
@jackryder6732
@jackryder6732 4 жыл бұрын
Very well presented. Great story
@jimminychristmas8100
@jimminychristmas8100 4 жыл бұрын
What a great setup Tony has going, the best of yesteryear. I've always believed things don't necessarily get better with new materials. I mean come on, tubes, horns, paper cones, fantastique mon ami!
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
After hearing his system, I am even more convince gear from yesteryear can compete with today's system.
@jimminychristmas8100
@jimminychristmas8100 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo yeah me too, i have many older pieces and a few modern, nothing really high end. What I enjoy the most is my 10 year old Primaluna tube pre and poweramp into my 40plus yr.old Heresy I's!! I really would love to hear that Musical Paradise DAC in my old gear too.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimminychristmas8100 Thanks for sharing! Because my friends are into vintage system, I really respect and am amazed what they can do. I would argue in some aspects, they are better than today's gear.
@davidwald2938
@davidwald2938 10 ай бұрын
I recently picked up a pair of mint JBL l96's for my bedroom. They sound so much better than my Wharfedale Lintons or Kef R300s. I know apples and oranges but I can only imagine what l300s must sound like! My L96s I got for a fraction of the price JBL is selling their much smaller new two ways. But then those are mainly fashion statements but for me its about the sound and while old JBLs may not have the fit and finish they sure to have it over many newer speakers in sound that is so amazingly clear and powerful I couldn't believe it. Goes to show you don't need fancy materials or special speaker connectors to get the best sound. Certainly no sub needed for older JBL'a...this is sound I was after. Mids and highs are also clearest and coherent I've heard. My Forte IVs are better but only after taming the horns with a special hybrid class A amp and lots of tubes. JBLs kill the Forte's with my AS2200 (mids and highs overbearing on Forte)
@johnniearnold8476
@johnniearnold8476 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this system Thomas ,,, takes me back to my 80s system here in Tasmania, which if you guys heard today would probably astound you , thats one lovely turntable, my system included Thorens td125, With Grace 714 teak tonearm with Supex sd900 mc, Also Luxman PD 444 a long SME, and a Stax carbon fibre arm, With Koetsu rosewood mc. Luxman C12 preamp, a pair of B12 mono amps, a custom made electronic crossover, a Bose 1801 power amp , driving Acoustic Research AR 9 speakers (1801 for the 4 12inch bass drivers the luxman handling the top end, all in a custom designed room) one often could easily pickup thinks like trains and underground back ground noises in those British recordings, we also had Stax Sigma, and Lamda Earspeakers.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have to say I really enjoy listening to vintage systems. It feels more like a "V8" muscle car compared to today's wimpy turbocharged cars. Btw, omg, that was one killer system you had.
@johnniearnold8476
@johnniearnold8476 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks Thomas , Always enjoy your videos,, you have a great take on what makes for great sounding gear. One has to be a little obsessed to be good at something, you have some wonderful gear. I was fortunate enough to be around some great musical instruments that crossed my work bench, in my guitar making days during 80s, sound has always been my first love, Good Classical guitars are especially great for testing a system's ability, I have some of the best sounding recordings ever done, Iam contactable thru facebook and instagram, let me know , I would be happy to send you a selection, .. I f ever you are in Aus. Check out TAS. Were a good friendly bunch here🐧👍
@ysk249
@ysk249 4 жыл бұрын
I have 4 sets of vintage JBL speakers and 3 sets of modern Harbeths. In my system, JBLs are on another level. In comparison to my Harbeth Compact 7-ES3 and P3-ESR 40th speakers that cost $3000, the vintage JBLs that I bought on eBay for $150-500 deliver a punchier sound, dynamic sound, and deeper soundstage when used with Tidal/ the Mytek Brooklyn DAC. JBL's alnico drivers designed in the 70s are way better than the Harbeth's radial 2 drivers in my listening environment. Give them a listen and you won't be disappointed.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, incredible value for $500 then.
@hifiman4562
@hifiman4562 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas: "What?!", that's exactly how I feel. Very envious.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
I know! $1k! What the ....
@hifiman4562
@hifiman4562 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo I can appreciate his attention to detail. Every item is well researched and carefully chosen. The bonus is this - if he needs to make a change then it's not difficult to pull an item and replace it.
@bernhardmichaelfux308
@bernhardmichaelfux308 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo 1K for the Plinth doesn`t wonder me. It`s a masterpiece, especially the surface! This Palisander/Makassar Wood is very hard to cover with Laquer due to the chemical reactions this wood makes when touched with Laquer. Some of these veneers need a lot of preparation, and this costs them money. Back in the early 80ies/ending 70ies, we made the Office Furniture of our Boss`s Son, who joined our company after his master-education, out of this wood, and I swear you, the surface of the palisander wood was our biggest concern when we made it.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
@@bernhardmichaelfux308 thanks for explaining. Definitely appreciate more the work out into it with your explanation.
@light_bringer
@light_bringer 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@markd4292
@markd4292 4 жыл бұрын
What a treat Thomas. What a absolute treat. Gosh I really dig the vintage sound. A neighbor up the street has vintage gear and speakers and it's just.....lovely. He said he'll take me over his friends house, who owns a pair of JBL Synthesis Everest speakers. That would be really neat to hear. I grew up listening to JBL and Techniques. Thank you again Thomas.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not a good thing to hear the Everest...the name says it all.
@mikeables
@mikeables 4 жыл бұрын
Mark D Beg to hear that system!!! If it is set up right that speaker can change your life. I have never heard a more lifelike sound.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeables but then you'll spend your life trying to get that sound!!!! I would pay to hear them!
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark for the great comment, appreciate it.
@mikeables
@mikeables 4 жыл бұрын
@@Montreal_Audio_Systems I went through a journey like all stereo buffs. My local audio shop buys used gear. I first heard the Paragon. I was stunned at the perfection of the crossover and smoothness. A year later he got an Everest pair and all I could compare them to were Klipsch horns. They blow those away on every metric. If my neighbor had a Bugatti or a Picasso, I would go see it. I would still appreciate the art on my fridge
@rosspulsford9916
@rosspulsford9916 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Thomas so very interesting brilliant.
@user-dq5xx9hi4q
@user-dq5xx9hi4q 6 ай бұрын
A friend of mine had some L300s and Carver separates (tuner, preamp and power amp). He put on the Doors' "L.A. Woman" and I was floored. I've heard the song countless times and I have heard very high end systems before, but that was the first time it sounded like the band was right in front of me playing live. I have a pair of L100t's and a pair of L36's myself.
@robertbosson5223
@robertbosson5223 4 жыл бұрын
Going to get myself a copy of this bad boy rumble checker!
@jajessee
@jajessee 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@kurtzcol
@kurtzcol 4 жыл бұрын
good story at the start and i always like a good room tour thanks
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I wanted to give the viewer an idea of the strength of this system.
@edwardbarr1533
@edwardbarr1533 4 жыл бұрын
A test employed by the old IMF company for its transmission line bass speakers was the Kingsway Hall Undergound Test EMIdid little to reduce the same Tony knews his stuff A most enjoyable video Thankyou
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Edward, this is great information!
@shinvergil
@shinvergil 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video, thanks. And you seem thinner, i hope you are healthier as well.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yeah I went on KETO diet and lost about 30 pounds overall.
@Mrch33ky
@Mrch33ky 4 жыл бұрын
It's a lot of work to get the sound you want. But it's worth it!
@Zwakkie05
@Zwakkie05 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very beautiful setup, you can be proud of it 😊👍🏻.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you
@thetruthspeaker5101
@thetruthspeaker5101 4 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that you were going to play the Ruggiero Ricci album on your friends music system so that we could hear that particular train rumble you mentioned.?.?.?
@andrewcrain5461
@andrewcrain5461 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas I finally found a ok match for that bright old adcom I put a pair of McIntosh LS350 and it sounded pretty good they seemed to smooth that top end out ! Just sharing some of my journey ! Nice video....INJOY THE MUSIC
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew and congrates!
@Esprits4s
@Esprits4s 4 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful TT
@buttonman1831
@buttonman1831 4 жыл бұрын
"nothing bothers me" We all say that , for awhile lol
@0177MrGreen
@0177MrGreen 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@ericbrown5744
@ericbrown5744 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful room and setup. Wow! Most of my setup is 80s gear and I have to agree that you can get as good of performance out of vintage as modern gear. Great video Thomas - thanks for sharing! Thanks Tony!
@alanrogs3990
@alanrogs3990 8 ай бұрын
I always think, just enjoy, no need to compare.
@anderssoderlind90
@anderssoderlind90 4 жыл бұрын
It's reminds me to finish my Thorens TD125.
@johnbrewer2206
@johnbrewer2206 Жыл бұрын
Nice set of 300s I just recently built a set of crossover networks for a set for a buddy.
@sc51153826
@sc51153826 4 жыл бұрын
what a great system, so lovingly put together 😱😱😱😍😍😍 it's very exciting when you listen to a true "discrete" active system (as to an all-in-one budget active speaker) the seamlessness, speed, and control is phenomenal. Hopefully, someday this kind of performance can trickle down to the all-in-one active speakers. 🤞🏻 Tony, thank you for letting us into your home and showing us your system👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon for acknowledging Tony. He will surely appreciate it.
@sc51153826
@sc51153826 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo It is really amazing how much time and work he put into refining his system, great effort, a true old-school audiophile in the very best way!
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
Where you from Simon?
@sc51153826
@sc51153826 4 жыл бұрын
@@Montreal_Audio_Systems I'm in Hong Kong now, but I used to live in Toronto, and sold Hifi years ago.
@crimsonghost6454
@crimsonghost6454 4 жыл бұрын
Great video but wish it was longer. I too have all vintage gear and pleased with it as well. I wonder often if I need new gear for better sound but so far I am not convinced new is superior to vintage. Proves that with the right pieces in the puzzle you can reach wonderful performance. I find I'm looking at older components to add to my system before I look at new. This system in this video has style,charisma, and history. Plus the performance. I'm sticking with vintage gear
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The original video was longer but I shorten it cause I was worried people would get bored! Newer does not mean better. There are some stuff new system does better, such as refinement, but the reverse is true too.
@peterream9437
@peterream9437 4 жыл бұрын
Thats's one well crafted system,its more like a recording studio system, as he's gone active. Be interesting to hear that tack on cd, played on a Rega Isis cdp.
@CUDAbuster
@CUDAbuster Жыл бұрын
I don't know how I missed this review, but this is great! I like plenty of modern gear, but love the higher end vintage equipment and sound. Similar to what was experienced here, I find the same thing to be true, in that there is detail reveal on certain tracks that come through excellently on vintage, horn driver based speakers. I have a pair of Altec A7 and Valencias which always I go back to regardless of anything that has come out in the past ten years (or at least anything in that time that I've come across, even at audio shows). The large bass driver with large cabinet coupled with horn top section does something magical. Particularly rewarding with classical, movie scores, quartets and your typical Phile music. Good stuff man!
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo Жыл бұрын
Nice, thaks for sharing. Always wanted to listen to Altec speakers.
@CUDAbuster
@CUDAbuster Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo I think you would love the Altec Valencia 846B. I have the older 846A, which are 16 ohm and even though the cabinet is fancier than the 846B, it is not port tuned as well as the B and the B has more powerful, 8ohm woofer. Maybe the horns in both are similar. I gutted the insulation on mine and lined them wall to wall with no-rez prograde acoustic foam and added a few pounds of acoustic fiber. This made a significant improvement on the bass output. I absolutely love these. Either the A or B model is something I'm sure you would enjoy. If you still have the McIntosh amps, those would pair perfectly. The DACs. And all that other nuanced stuff is just not a big factor in running these high efficiency, high output speakers. Sound stage is enormous. The A-7's are quite a bit larger and I had to do some modifications on mine for home use. I.e. I redid the cabinet dampening, custom built a front ported baffle and built a custom crossover with L-pad. It dropped the bass output by an octave at a slight expense of efficiency, but is still around 100 db/ 1W/M. The linearity was also improved. Now they are "Phile" speakers made for home use and mind blowing to listen to. Let's face it, as far back as the 1960's, they knew how to build excellent HiFi gear, big and bold, but the WAF torpedoed those systems and we ended up with mostly weeny junk for a couple decades. Now people are realizing how phenomenal those old designs were and big as speakers are making a comeback with the Phile crowd. BTW, congrats on launching your amp. I'll bet that would pair sweetly with some vintage Altecs!
@marvinmurakami8828
@marvinmurakami8828 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing the Altec Model 19 in stereo stores back in the day. Awesome transparent, powerful sound coming from those behemoths.
@rdh67dh
@rdh67dh 4 жыл бұрын
I mixed my vintage B&W matrix 805 H with a NAD C658 + C268 and it sounds awesome. Ordered a REL T9i to support the low better. Mix it up when you can. I love my icon 805 baby's.
@AudioElectronicsChicago
@AudioElectronicsChicago 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing system.
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 4 жыл бұрын
If you want big sound have multiple front speakers (I like a floorstanding and bookshelf on adjustable stand) and have the tweeters at different heights. I.e. have tweeters one above the other, pointed at purposedly different dedicated points (not at anyone or any place but at a wall or corner) and the highs become less directionary because high frequencies are very direct sounding, that's why horns are better to disperse higher frequency.. Have speakers all across your front wall. Include two woofers firing at front wall in front of your front wall speakers. Big axx soundstage. Big pressurized bass, cymbals clap as wide as a drum kit and vocals as full as a coliseum. A little distortion will not kill you, even concerts have distortion at high volumes during moments of complete silence. Do not become obsessed as some have. Know when good is good. Moderation is key to life, extremes of any direction is not good and cause discontent.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems Жыл бұрын
I've tried multiple speakers when I was young man I took every speaker I could find and hooked it up it was probably really hard on the amp and we'll let me tell you man it sounded bad it was loud but waves comeing at you from everywhere rebounding at you was just awful.
@eggshellskullrule7971
@eggshellskullrule7971 3 жыл бұрын
That L300 is a consumer version of my 4320. I use 4 of them. I too have been on them for a few years with nothing felt wrong in any way.
@craigellsworth3952
@craigellsworth3952 3 жыл бұрын
The L300 is the consumer version of the 4333. The 4320 is an earlier version with the bullet tweeter.
@normalman6686
@normalman6686 4 жыл бұрын
So nice. Enjoy.
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 Жыл бұрын
Nice System.I love vintage Audio! The truth is.......... Audio has not really progressed in the Loudspeaker, Amplifier, Turntable Arena. Everytime I Modify/ Upgrade some Klipsch,Jbl's Electrovoice,etc....I hunt down the vintage Alnico ,Cast Frame Drivers. Tube Amps,I always hunt Down New Old Stock Tubes Exclusively!
@pithyginger6371
@pithyginger6371 4 жыл бұрын
I really want to own an updated vintage jbl system some day...
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@rickp6731
@rickp6731 11 ай бұрын
The all new Stratton Acoustics Elypsis 1512 Loudspeakers are the New Holy Grail of Speakers ?!
@mr.george7687
@mr.george7687 4 жыл бұрын
My stock Thorens TD 125 is sooo jealous!
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
Its very good stock! They are very good low noise but need maintenance every now and then. Nowadays they don't make them suspended anymore because people are lazy and couldn't be bothered and just won't have the patience or knowledge.
@mervinmckenzie4628
@mervinmckenzie4628 4 жыл бұрын
It would be a dream to hear this system. You'll need a lot of cash to beat a systen like so🔥🔥👍👌
@hifiman4562
@hifiman4562 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a fun challenge: Who can equal or best this or any system for the least amount of money.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems Жыл бұрын
@@hifiman4562 you'll have to go active to even start to compete if you ask me and it will have to be a little big as well. Active = a lot of clean detail and a big speaker will give you a big clean sound! Stay aways from 1980's speakers those big ones where usually made to look cool and for parties.
@jblackjack
@jblackjack 3 жыл бұрын
Love horn loaded speakers .... I’ve got vintage gear as well . Focusrite RED 4 Preamp and RED 5 Amp Altec Lansing Model 14 speakers Thorens TD -166MKII Technics SL-1700MKII with Shure V15TypeIV .
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 жыл бұрын
Nelson Pass has and loves the JBL L300
@0bzen22
@0bzen22 4 жыл бұрын
In one year, he found his sound. I'm guessing that's what Thomas is the most envious about :D
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
yup, I responded to that in the video originally but edited it out to shorten the video.
@bernhardmichaelfux308
@bernhardmichaelfux308 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo But it`s no shame to say something like that! In this case, I think it honors the Guy we are jealous of.. lol
@AndyBHome
@AndyBHome 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to use the word "perfect" without exaggerating, but I think Tony's system may well be worthy of that label. With subjective matters like HiFi there is no single definition of perfect, but for the average audiophile there is a tinker factor, looks factor, backstory and customization in addition to the sound "quality" and "accuracy." Assuming his system sounds pretty good, and I can't believe it wouldn't, he seems to have struck the perfect balance of beauty, component matching and just plain audiophile fascination factor in a system that has every reason to sound absolutely amazing. As I firmly believe that audiophilia is a condition that is most often just as focused on equipment as it is on the sound coming out of the equipment, I believe Tony has put together a system that is the "perfect" combination of quality listening capability and hardware allure for the majority of audiophiles. It's inspiring.
@antoniomontana2635
@antoniomontana2635 4 жыл бұрын
You'll never fall into the perfect system by just spending a ton of cash. The hobbiest who tinkers and tests and who has passion for finding his perfect sound eventually will get there. It helps having a lot of friends to guide you and lend out equipment of course
@ljbrandt500
@ljbrandt500 4 жыл бұрын
You are a good story teller
@liamo4
@liamo4 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@billbones1000
@billbones1000 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one thomas! I'm a follower of the highly sensitive highly dynamic philosophy myself although went open baffles over horns. I bet I'd love the sound of this guys rig!
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
It is phenomenal!
@billbones1000
@billbones1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo thomas I'm on the Qc/On boarder. Have a set of spatial audio open baffles with a primaluna, subs and nice custom built TT. It's a humble system but f your ever headed to Toronto and want to take a listen to open baffles with tubes it would be a pleasure to welcome you into my home.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
@@billbones1000 DAMM, I go to toronto often but usually with family. Next year around the Toronto audio show, can you follow up with me? I might go alone or with my friends and that is the only time I am without my family. I will also post up on my community page to let people know so I can swing by everyone's place! Keep an eye on my community page:)
@billbones1000
@billbones1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo will do Thomas! No worries to drop by with your family if you wish, I have three kids (6, 8 and 10) and we have a huge sliding hill at our place (ten acre property)....can get the kids out of our hair while you take a listen. Anyway, will keep in touch about that my friend, whatever and whenever you wish, offer is open.
@marvinmartian7281
@marvinmartian7281 4 жыл бұрын
JBL's from that era are still the best.
@marvinmartian7281
@marvinmartian7281 4 жыл бұрын
I have just bought a pair of JBL 4411 Wonderful! indeed.
@omgwtfpwnd
@omgwtfpwnd 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I’ve purchased JBL 4333 and 4345 from Kenrick Sound. They were muddy and sucked. Good thing there’s a huge Vietnamese JBL community near me to buy them for around the same price I purchased them for.
@NosTubes58
@NosTubes58 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful turntable.........., yet I'd say adding an Oyaide R0 or R1 AC Wall Receptacle and their matching Black Mamba Sigma-V2 Power Cords would give Tony a reason to pause, as it enhances what's already in place.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
No no...don't encourage him to spend more money! His wife will hate me!
@mikecees2230
@mikecees2230 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Thomas and very nice system, great attention to detail and obviously tweaked to the limit. I'm sure there's no cable spaghetti in back of that gear. I'm itching to get into (return to) vintage but I have lost all reference points to what good sound was 30-40 years ago. Regarding that Musical Paradise DAC...it caught my interest until someone mentioned that the bass was a bit bloated. Maybe the Denafrips Ares would be a good/better alternative for those looking for an ''analogue sounding'' DAC.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is a bit bloated but I only heard it well while it was cold
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Well it depends what tubes are used in the Dac. in general, solid state have better bass control but everything is relative. Thanks!
@athurV1
@athurV1 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas ,your interview was spot on & impeccably amazing. Tony 's set up is unique, not many ppl would even think of 1 amp per stage , that's genius , others might think overkill , do u know if he used copper or silver speaker cable & which brand he chose bunny chance? And all the best Thomas.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don't remember the cables he used. We actually started talking about it but decided to stop and not include in the video cause when I talk about cables, people can get overly passionate :)
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems Жыл бұрын
I have all sorts of brands from MIT to monster to can Dan haul to god knows what else Thomas sold me haha these silver wires that got cold blasted and all $$$ I tried all sorts and on my system yep you can really hear the difference especially when you go from copper to silver man the silver brings the highs out!
@iggu74
@iggu74 4 жыл бұрын
I love vintage speakers. I have JBL XPL 200 and also KEF R107 with KUBE.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, I had the 107 too. Great bass!
@allanpowell7208
@allanpowell7208 4 жыл бұрын
I'm stuck on my kef Concertos after about 20 years. I have an Aus pair of Audio Definition but no one's ever heard of them. I god quad 405 power amp, 33 preamp and a NAD power pre combination, Denon DVD player for the cd's. No vinyl anymore (used to have 129o classical and jazz) now only classical. I've gone through a lot of choice to stick with these, it's just the definition and clarity I like from the gear. ( I did a pair of 40 and 60 Celestion but they weren't as solid sounding as the Kefs. I think the pixies went into the Kef factory at night. Hope you all find systems you like. Cheers happyshiny people.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 жыл бұрын
Burt Lancatti !! Was the Andrew Jones of his time, from JBL L-series to Pioneer HPM series ! Love my overhauled HPM 100s still unbeatable to my ear opion on my front end setup very nice system by the way !!! Thank you for sharing !
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tee-Jay for dropping by!
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasAndStereo thank you Thomas, Thomas i been working to much lately, and this past morning i did my review of the STACK and it was so awful i deleted it ! Really bummed out with that . So for the nexted couple of days going to rest alot and retry the review again This coming saturday . Heres my Email Karta.boy.1974@gmail.com
@JEG6919
@JEG6919 4 жыл бұрын
Bart Locanthi, CalTech grad. Got TAD up and running for Pioneer and TAD was the first to use Beryllium for compression drivers.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 жыл бұрын
@@JEG6919 thank you for the info , huge Fan of Burt L ! Have you tried the Pioneer HPM-150s ? Thomas is a great a very good reviewer , watching Thomas's utube videos, truely matured my way of thinking in Audio terms reminds me of my late O'sensei 😆
@JEG6919
@JEG6919 4 жыл бұрын
Tee-Jay The Stereo-Bargin-File l've tried other brands, but I've always come back to JBL. TAD pioneer stuff is excellent as well. Rey Audio makes monitors using TAD pro components. They too are top notch. Augspurger monitor used to as well.
@roymindmybusiness6908
@roymindmybusiness6908 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas this is very interesting to me as i own upgraded JBL 300 as recommended by Nelson Pass -unfortunately they were destroyed by couriors on rebuild so they are just shadows of themselves -same bass driver etc sad -fabulous musical speakers
@rctony710
@rctony710 4 жыл бұрын
The active crossover crosses at the same frequency as the updated Nelson pass crossover. Nelson still owns a pair of l300!
@roymindmybusiness6908
@roymindmybusiness6908 4 жыл бұрын
@@rctony710 $7k spent on mine black walnut pro veneer $2k crossovers ability to also use my DEQX crossover drivers perfect -crushed by scumbags ! your system is magic
@herbiecamil7257
@herbiecamil7257 4 жыл бұрын
like that turntable
@brandonkeenan2625
@brandonkeenan2625 Жыл бұрын
Wanted to hear it
@martyjewell5683
@martyjewell5683 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video of a sweet system. A point about bass response. Speakers shouldn't add bass. Bass should only be reproduced if it's present in the source. That said, few recordings have bass below 30Hz, in fact what most folks think of as "deep bass" is really in the 40 to 60Hz range. Also, how deep do you need to go?? Record warp is in the single digit frequencies. My subsonic filter is 18dB/oct@15Hz. My favorite speakers are Ohm model H systems that are -3dB @ 32Hz. I've listened to EV Interface D systems that are capable of SUSTAINED output of 28Hz at over 100dB's. What you hear/feel at frequencies below, say, 25Hz are more sound effects; train rumble (as you mention), thunder or cannon (1812 Overture and Wellington's Victory). If your hifi system can reproduce this information, swell. Most of us can live "happily ever after" with speakers that have useful bass to 40Hz. You are an astute man Thomas and I really enjoy you various subjects of hifi. Well done and happy holidays.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 4 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. 40hz is pretty good already and to get more, adding a good sub can also be one solution. Thanks for commenting.
@mr.george7687
@mr.george7687 4 жыл бұрын
Who sez, real Audiophiles don't have JBL speakers!
@rctony710
@rctony710 4 жыл бұрын
Depressed people with flat systems and no bass
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 4 жыл бұрын
george vera jbl is one of the best speaker fabricator out there .. I don’t give a damn what an audiophile says lol
@mr.george7687
@mr.george7687 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichelLinschoten I agree, my first pair of speakers were L100's Sold them after some years. been through 6 pairs of audiophile speakers & came back to JBL 4321C's will keep forever.Would love to have L300's too much $$$$ today.
@markbrook8395
@markbrook8395 4 жыл бұрын
I love my JBL's. They will take anything I can throw at them, and play it with authority. JBL 4502 studio monitors. They are basically the professional series L300.
@canacura
@canacura 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Brook The 4333 are the studio equivalent of L300’s not the 4502’s!
@sinusshephard5314
@sinusshephard5314 4 жыл бұрын
Nice system!
@bsoerig85
@bsoerig85 4 жыл бұрын
Please review JBL 4306. I really enjoy your show.
@artfartzy
@artfartzy 4 жыл бұрын
Wish there was a short sound demo so we could hear it :)
@Montreal_Audio_Systems
@Montreal_Audio_Systems 4 жыл бұрын
What song you wanna hear?
@artfartzy
@artfartzy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Montreal_Audio_Systems Ooh I dunno something that sounds good :) Depends what you have, if you have streaming like Tidal maybe you can find this one, Hanne Boel - After Midnight kzbin.info/www/bejne/bauch6Wmqr2FpZo Or this one from Steely Dan kzbin.info/www/bejne/moipoGR5dsRsr80
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 4 жыл бұрын
But don't you know you'd only be hearing your headphones? 🤣 Nah man I'm with you. Even if you can't hear perfectly you can hear some things that might bother you. It's always good to hear sounds demos regardless of what trolls say.
@Xx-xd3zo
@Xx-xd3zo 4 жыл бұрын
@@kohnfutner9637 - Hear-hear! (No pun.) As if you can't tell about systems through video... Sure. Play a video of a top notch system, then a crappy-assed one. Tell me you don't hear a different even through the crappiest earbuds.
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xx-xd3zo yeah i would hear a difference. I hear differences in 2 good systems also.
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