Vintage Widowmaker Guitar Amp Gets De-fanged - 1961 Danelectro Cadet Model 122

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in this video we will show how to add an isolation tranformer to a series filament "widowmaker" amplifier - a vintage 1961 Danelectro Cadet Model 122. This same procedure will work on pretty much any vintage guitar amp of this type. These amps have no power transformer so in order to improve safety, some things need to change. We'll explore those changes and check out the tone with a demo at the end. The guitars used are a BigD Guitars Bourbon Barrell Telecaster and a PRS CE24.
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[@TheGuitologist]

WATCH PART 2 HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnRYWd4rrisqKc POSTSCRIPT: Someone sent me an actual schematic and it shows the adjustable cap between B+ reservoir node and 12AU6 screen grid. I'm assuming this is some kind of arcane feedback with selectable frequencies. Any ideas?

[@unkelib4391]

@Boony Tooty the chinese aktualy pleayd musik long before there vare enyting named usa on top of that thes amp is made in usa

[@theguitautist4176]

@@unkelib4391 on acoustic instruments with 5 notes, only, ever. And you're right, that speaker is too old and US made to have a cone made out of dog 'leather'.

[@p_mouse8676]

Brad, have you looked at these Hammond transformers? They have actually some more OEM type 1:1 mains transformers that are like around 10-15 bucks each. That's still doable for these old amps. First thing they need is a transformer. Will look for a link.

[@russellhltn1396]

My guess is that the cap is some kind of neutralization circuit (prevents oscillation). But that's usually not seen until you get up into radio frequency stuff. Those kinds of caps are usually pretty small value.

[@weld4beer106]

Can you do a video on the wiring of different cabinets and explain why we need to change ome for different speaker arrangements. Thanks . Much love from the Lou.

[@markwybierala4936]

I had one of these when I was 12 years-old. My father purchased it second hand in 1972. It shocked the hell outta me dozens of times. It was important that I wore shoes and only played guitar in the house. We had a BBQ at my house one day and my father wanted to me to play outside on the patio. Bare feet on a concrete patio, my dad ended up calling an ambulance. I don't think I was getting the full 115VAC. Shocks ranged from being uncomfortable to outright painful with a sharp bite. We never took the amp in for repair as the solution was just to keep the amp in my bedroom -- jeez! I blame that amp for my lack of guitar ability -- its an as good an excuse as anything else :). Love your channel. Very much a total reality to repairs and the business. You got some great chops.

[@playauthentic1082]

I love seeing old gear like this!

[@littlebullfrog1078]

Good work, Doctor. The patient sounds as though he's made a full recovery.

[@BobbyHill26]

I’ve said it probably a dozen times by now, but Brad, you’ve got to be just about my favorite player on KZbin. You’ve got an incredibly unique style and I can’t think of anyone I’ve ever heard that played like you. Would be a lot of work on your part, but I would love maybe a “best of” sort of video just made up of a bunch of your amp demo and out to jams. Hell, if it was just a single recording of you sitting on the couch noodling I’d eat it up. As for this video, I really like how every so often, especially on these simple amps, you actually break down what we are looking at and what you are doing, sort of beginner friendly type of content. For someone that doesn’t have a clue what is going on, these are a good place to start. The amp seemed to be pretty good, but the speaker was really holding it back. Way too small and probably just shitty in general. Stay safe and stay healthy.

[@Hellseeker1]

Danelectrocution, Making guitar playing exciting again!

[@thomasjarosz7406]

Brad, watching you reminds me of watching my Dad fix anything! Just like you do. Stay safe from Pennsylvania God bless you and your Family

[@tonyduncan9852]

Aw. Please don't stop fixing these uneconomic amps. It'll be the end of one of my few pleasures.

[@knifeswitch5973]

Ahhhhhh, that’s better. Thanks Brad. Note: been an electrician for 25 years and never played with bending circuits. You’ve got me hooked.

[@mcskillby]

Hey, I loved what you were playing to test this amp. The last couple of minutes were inspiring. Thank you.

[@matthewb8229]

Did a quick search of Sangamo Electronics. Fantastic history! Was a significant contributor to the development of sonar during WWII. Started out as a watch/clock company. Based in Springfield, IL.

[@jonnybeck6723]

That reclaimed wood Tele is truly wicked... Thanx for yet another Great video and... cheers

[@ralphrounds709]

Best one of these amps by far. Awesome guitar playing!

[@TonySkiens]

I love that Tele !!!!

[@danwilson9530]

I’ve grown to love watching your amp repair videos. I’m learning a ton about something that was otherwise alien to me. Thanks for taking us along on these repairs!

[@ThePositiveAutism]

Love your mod and repair videos! 👍

[@MinimGuitars]

That's cool! Interesting to see the different shapes and sizes of old amps. Though this does seem like it could have been a murder weapon in an episode of Columbo...

[@BADBONESDAD]

First time I've noticed the River Falls Sticker . My best friend lives in River Falls, South Carolina I used to go and stay the summers there over a decade ago . I miss those lazy days in the clean cold creeks. Hiked from the house to the falls or up to bald rock. Of any place in America RF SC has some of the nicest people I've ever met in my life and i travel everywhere.. I enjoy watching your vida especially the wrap and Jam session thanks Brad

[@benlogan430]

The plaid are my nite time Jammi pants! Wearing my daytime Jammi pants now. Confined at home and making it through with videos like these! Thanks and stay safe!

[@brentstewart59]

Brad I just acquired an old Widowmaker amp quite similar to this and I'm about to de-fang my old Canadian made Pepco 801 as well and would like to extend my thanks for posting this video.

[@ProducerBryan]

I found your channel back in the day looking for answers on my Cadet 123. Been watching since! Thanks for all you do man

[@TheGuitologist]

Thanks, Bryan!

[@rg2250e]

Thank you for releasing vids to watch ,always interesting . Hope you and your family are fairing well .

[@TheGuitologist]

Thanks for watching.

[@57Banjoman]

Good call on the iso xfmr-I have been the unfortunate recipient of the series filament amp-LOL-thanks, Brad, for working on this-takes me back a few years!

[@BrandochGarage]

The grindy sounds at the end are fun!

[@markwybierala4936]

From a semi-professional point of view what is very cool is seeing you make a mistake and wondering to myself -- hmmm... and then you discover it yourself. You're totally honest in the comments when others describe things they would do differently. Thanks

[@nofacemonster]

I am no musician or rich enough to be an audiophile but I love music and amplifiers, two days back I saw about these widow maker amplifiers while looking for a solution to stop the tube buzz in my headphone amp. I wanted to hear how they might sound and I thank you for doing this video...! they sound pretty good :)

[@raymondheath7668]

The zip tie reminds me of a Philco radio I got in. Someone had changed a pair of caps which was fine. The problem was that they had pulled the zip tie so tight it physically crushed one of the electrolytics! another good video

[@highvoltagebeaver6640]

Great video! These little widowmakers are fun. The way I make these safe is to always plug them into a GFCI. The isolation xformer cleans up the signal like a choke, but it still passes 120v.

[@wingracer1614]

LOL, your name makes me think you know what you're talking about.

[@TheGuitologist]

That would work too. I’d hate to be relegated to the bathroom or kitchen to play my guitar though. :)

[@highvoltagebeaver6640]

@@TheGuitologist I have a GFCI extension cord. The bathroom does have great acoustics, though.

[@JoeKyser]

Talking about plugging it in backwards reminded me of the beginning of back to the future where he has that huge sub and it blows him across the room lol

[@down19992000]

Awesome new video. I have been going through amp repair withdrawal syndrome.

[@SuperDd40]

Try to sing in a microphone and play with one of those on wrong polarity , it really wakes you up when your lips touch the mic.

[@louaguado995]

Nice riffing! That little thing has some nice crunch.

[@MrMnchstr]

Sangamon - the third interglacial stage of the Pleistocene Epoch in North America, after the Illinoian glacial stage and before the Wisconsin. Also the Capital of Illinois is in Sangamon County.

[@thewalrus1968]

Love this channel and i miss spf ssoooo much

[@TheGuitologist]

Thanks for sticking around anyway. If YT ever changes their algorithm to properly reward the effort that goes into producing shows like SPF, I’ll make them again. They just punished my channel big time because of the subject matter. It wasn’t sustainable.

[@stephenmccarthy1597]

Great video repairing is a thing of the past i hope you inspire a young person to learn these skills

[@TonyClarkGuitar]

Watching now. Love these repair videos. I still have my ‘73 batsman head that needs some work and that Bogner Alchemist that needs work whenever you have time.

[@oldguy5381]

Always fun watching you put the magic blue smoke back in a unit. Thank and stay safe. 🤘🏼

[@57Banjoman]

Nice crunchy tone!

[@filonome]

When you don't know wtf you're doing time for ask an amp tech!! Yesssssss a new amp video!!! Thank you, Brad! I frequently get your amp tech jingle from spf videos stuck in my head. You should incorporate it into these sorts of videos since spf is no more.

[@jonsy3410]

That jingles been rattling round my head all week...

[@darkallyrecordings4931]

Great Video! It never seems like I set here for almost an hour watching repairs.

[@raymondleggs5508]

The salvaged wood guitar is icing on the cake!

[@markwalmsley8243]

Would be a great amp to have in the studio for some different tones. Really like what you did to make it useable and as always enjoyed your impeccable playing!

[@scottdunn2178]

Those vintage wax paper capacitors are fascinating in and of themselves. The history of those would make for a great post, Brad. I know a lot of people would be interested in this kind of stuff.

[@cassvirgillo3395]

Hey Brad, Glad your doing well. Same tube line up as the Gregory Mark 1 amp, with a resistor in series to volt drop the remaining line voltage. Still a cool little amp from around 3 to 5 watts. Take care, C.

[@mcrestwood7378]

great little guys --the sears one i own is perhaps one of the greatest sounding(i think) low watts in history-good show Brad!!!!!

[@guitarocd9984]

In the sixties we would jump in the pool and then go down in the basement and plug are guitars in. Nobody died.

[@jamesfetherston1190]

Nobody?

[@mike60510]

Thanks for the vid, I have a Caret Model 123. Interior looks similar.

[@TheAtariCreep]

I love amps like this. So rad!

[@AlvinWar]

Awesome ending jam!

[@yadakc]

Really happy to see a great little amp repair! I've gone through at least 3 years of channel 1 videos, and I've picked through channel 2 quite extensively, and with Covid outside, I've had lots of days spent watching your videos all day, they make the hours fly by, and I appreciate what you do. I sure wish I'd started watching KZbin videos sooner, I found you on my first, or second day of checking around, and now I rarely watch anything else. Reason I wish I'd started sooner is because the first video I watched I really liked your wit, and wisdom, but the second video started with the Douglas Adams line, then I knew if we ever got to talking, we'd end up friends, thus my "Desparately want to talk." line that was probably a little too repetitive. Anyway, fix some shit, and one of these days shout back at me. Peace, Keith

[@eldredjoyner2556]

These are the videos I really like! That amp sounds pretty good mic'd!

[@nevillegoddard4966]

Hey Brad! Good job on this little amp! The amp is much safer for the player now that you've added the mains isolation transformer. Only thing is I worry about the stability of the mounting of the isolation transformer. All its weight is hanging off the 2 transformer mounting bolts through the 'compressed ants nest' rear panel!. I can't help but feel nervous about the long term stability of this mounting method. I would have glued & bolted a, say 5 or 6 inch square earthed aluminium plate to the rear panel first. Then I would have bolted the transformer to this plate for a much more physically stronger assembly, Of course, you may have already discussed this option with the customer who may have turned it down due to additional costs, although you never mentioned this. But it sounds great with you playin it though!

[@scottdunn2178]

I've always been impressed by your knowledge, Brad. Especially since there's no place to learn about tube technology in this day and age. People like Ken Fischer learned this stuff in college in the '60's when they taught tube technology. You're very "hip" as to this stuff, Brad. Well done.

[@z1g]

You know, all the guitar repair stuff aside, you are a pretty right on guitarist. Take it from someone whose greatest accomplishment is knowing someone who knows someone that accomplished something.

[@howltrigger7713]

Greeting from France & Bonjour, thanks for all ur vids & elec-tricks. U helped me a lot to w on my MEAZZI ultrasonic (Italian amp from 1964). peace

[@Strumbum01]

Nice sounding little amp, nice tele too!

[@timothyb1559]

Cool jam at the end!

[@christophermorrow5995]

Love that tele, great video. It’s not SPF, but I still like it.

[@mark64tanner]

👍 Waiting for you to set up a PTP schematic and maybe a kit. Seen some real simple designs you've worked on recently that could be good candidates. Take care mate, all the best. Flannel PJ pants rule ✌😉

[@Viewer19]

Many early amps had dual throw dual pole power switches to rev the hot and neutral. The shocks typically came from touching the mic hopefully not with your lip but tested with a gingerly light tap while also touching your strings.

[@robertmatthews198]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEW VID!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dazuk1969]

Yeah....i am soooo gonna steal them riffs from ya at the end....😉

[@kevinhoward8410]

Regarding the shock hazard of these, and many of the in-case amps, Danelectro guitars had their circuitry shielded, and omitted the string grounding wire. This at least reduced the chance of being electrocuted, as the only potentially live part would be the jack. As I recall, the guitars were labelled "totally shielded", or something like that. Hope this clears things up a little.

[@johnb5519]

I just checked out my amp, and the fuse is after the switch too. Pretty decent tone out of that thing also.

[@LitesLAB]

Best thing about this one is the Count Chocula on the desk ;) Great job Brad, but I do agree that small speaker is doing the amp no justice!

[@ravenslaves]

Probably the best blues amp I've ever owned is an amp-in-case Danelectro with a single 6V6 and a Jensen speaker. A Tele through that small amp will give you the swirliest (swirly-est?) thrill one could hope for. Properly mic'd up and it sounds huge.

[@Stoney3K]

Why not wire the power switch before the isolation transformer? Right now the transformer will always remain live and there will always be some leakage current through it.

[@TheGuitologist]

That’s true. These shouldn’t be left plugged in when not in use. You could move the fuse to primary too. But the switch and fuse are acting as terminals for a few things, so I’d need to add a terminal strip somewhere on the chassis. Wouldn’t want it on a screw through the Masonite.

[@TheGuitologist]

Fixed the issue in Part 2. Video on Channel 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnRYWd4rrisqKc

[@davidrussell8918]

Put a 3 prong plug on it and call it good. Its just a bedroom amp. When Iwas a kid I had the dano guitar case amp that same amp built into the case. Used it for years ,and im still here. I also had a am table tube radio same deal. Plug it in and use it. Dont be so chicken s#&t!

[@MrMG43]

@@davidrussell8918 Just because you've somehow managed to live this long doesn't mean someone can't die from 120V AC when there's a direct potential to earth.

[@williardbillmore5713]

When I think of all the electric shocks we used to get playing guitars while standing on basement floors or taking a hit through the lips while singing into an out of phase PA microphone, with these old unisolated amplifier circuits I wonder how we survived at all. At the time we thought it was funny when a band member would get zapped. It was just accepted as part of playing an electric guitar.

[@sethbrandes2979]

Brad, you missed a goldmine : "1-2-3(-4-5)? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard of in my life! That's the kinda thing an idiot would have on his luggage!" ...and... "1, 2, 3(, 4, 5)? That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!"

[@alanscharrer5255]

You would think something of this vintage would be very easy. With Brad, it seems so. Me, I’ll just watch and learn more!

[@EasyThere]

Brad have you ever done a simple repair/maintenance for poor musicians....could be a series?

[@Edika12]

As I'm not well versed on vintage small amps I thought it Widowmaker was an actual model. After you talked about the no PT, filament powered and isolation transformer that I understood the title lol!

[@Mojoman57]

"Danelectro for sure made a couple different Cadets with slightly different tube compliments." -The Guitologist

[@TheGuitologist]

I don’t think I said that definitely. I’m certainly not going to check.

[@Mojoman57]

@@TheGuitologist I'm just taking the piss, homie. You said not to quote you so I didn't . I misquoted you. Thanks for the video.

[@russblack443]

@@TheGuitologist hey Brad I'm try to contact you about a amp repair but your Gmail isn't working, I tried to call but your voicemail is full and no response on Facebook

[@Fixologist1]

@@russblack443 [e-mail] I do not answer my phone, and Facebook I rarely check messages on there because I hate their messaging system. But I'm not taking in anything right now.

[@russblack443]

@@Fixologist1 ok thanks Brad I appreciate your response and I'll save the email. While I was waiting I took the chassis out and found the problem bad capacitor and it is within my skill level. Keep up the good work great channel.

[@guitargeargarage1482]

Tanks 💥💥💥your vid speaks to great major points of doin this type work on da ‘widowmakers! Tanks 💥💥💥also in past you hooked us up with outstanding guitar maker we ended up buying dat gentleman’s custom tenor guitar! We have a “Knox Trem - Tone” it works n decent shape for am obviously 60s or who knows maybe 50s amp. It’s similar to this one but ours 8” speaker. Yes, n no xformer! Plus old plug ect ... has a tattered schematic glued... but I can’t find no model#. Parts can be ID’d though pretty clearly. We paid about $200. I was going to install xformer but after all I think not (w/o supervision anyway as I’ve never repaired amp). Well, even if you’d want repair it like you did this one maybe wouldn’t be cost effective I don’t know... we have no real attachment to it we bought couple years ago Reverb thinkn we’d fix it but anyway if you open to chat about it can email me ...maybe ? Pls lemme know if you’d be willing, tanks 💥💥💥!

[@guitfidle]

Man, I have one of those old series filament amps- not a Dano but very very similar (Top Hat 007). Same dinky speaker with the OT mounted on the back, non polarized power cord, I want to say even the same tubes. I need to do this one of these days.

[@kenjimac2211]

Thanks for the upload Brad, stay safe.

[@fransterhorst3694]

You made this thing the best it can be! it still sounds like it looks, a bit 'cardboerd-boxy'. sure like your playing, i imagine myself playing drums to that .. cheers!

[@yqwgjsg]

To be such rudimentary circuitry, that little amp kicks ass.

[@hoagie73]

Great to hear you on Utube!

[@vapporiesat3125]

man did the monetising thing work out? glad you upload a new video

[@butchlauer]

I have that exact Dano, got it in the eighties for 30 bucks.👍

[@yaboijustin3000]

Straight up, I've plugged a non-polarized plug in the wrong way. I'll never forget that feeling, man... Nothing to wake you up like 120 volts straight through the fingers! I haven't touched the amp since, honestly, which is a shame... I love the tone of that old Sano amp...

[@WildChinoise]

Sounds nice!

[@justinbouchard]

Sounds mint. I bet if you plugged it into a 2x12 it'd be unreal.

[@TheGuitologist]

Justin B. This one would be nicer with maybe an 8” or 10”.

[@justinbouchard]

@@TheGuitologist Ok yeah! I guess I was just thinking with a better speaker/cab :)

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Nice tone !!

[@darwinsaye]

Wish my Cadet 123 was that clean inside.

[@YeIsew]

The Best Jam sessions happen in Pajama pants

[@VolkswagenVMan]

Sounds great!!!!!!!

[@douro20]

I might build and send you a series-string amp one of these days...of course it will have line isolation.

[@alex1520]

Those old carbon comp resistors tend to drift out of tolerance over time, hope you checked them ;)

[@jasonrackawack9369]

If anyone was searching for that elusive "Billy Corgan just joined the Black Crowes" tone I think you just found the amp you may have been looking for!

[@wayshot]

Maybe I'm wrong, but was the 12AU6 plate pin connected straight to the volume pot without a coupling cap between them?

[@TheGuitologist]

You're not wrong. I'm just an idiot today. I'm making a Part 2 video clearing up the mistakes.

[@wayshot]

@@TheGuitologist Nice, I'll be waiting :-) Mistakes can happen to anyone. I wondered about that wiring when I saw the video, waiting for a later correction. Didn't see anyone else commenting it, so I started to doubt myself whether it was a wiring mistake or not.

[@pauldavis6356]

@@wayshot I'm watching vid now and wondering why the schematic shows the volume pot between pre & power stages, and the actual amp has vol & tone pots BEFORE the pre amp tube.

[@TheGuitologist]

Fixed the issue in Part 2. Video on Channel 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnRYWd4rrisqKc

[@ianbanhamamprepair9457]

Nice to see a Russian Roulette amp [ series filament ] turned into a safe to use vintage amp with a future. Sounds great I thought.

[@ziggylayneable]

I got zapped with an old amp. Exactly the situation you described about the plug going into the wall. My strings became live on the guitar. As soon as I went to go hit an E chord it threw me across the room, knocked me unconscious. My wife says I screamed but I don't remember doing it. I damn near killed myself.

[@telecasteroil]

Great Video, Brad, Stay Well.

[@petaks01]

Is it normal to have the isolation transformer before the switch/fuse when built into a cab? I would probably have made it the other way...

[@brianmcallister1960]

I too would have put the switch and fuse in the primary circuit of the Isolation transformer. The way that it is, if the amp is left plugged in, the transformer is always powered up and could be a fire hazard in the event of a power surge when it is unattended. I know that it should be unplugged when not in use, but many people ignore that advice.

[@williamthrasher8540]

Yes you are now depending on the circuit breaker in your house fuse box for protection (15 or 20 amps).

[@TheGuitologist]

That’s true. These shouldn’t be left plugged in when not in use. You could move the fuse to primary too. But the switch and fuse are acting as terminals for a few things, so I’d need to add a terminal strip somewhere on the chassis. Wouldn’t want it on a screw through the Masonite. Maybe another empty rectifier terminal...

[@TheGuitologist]

Fixed the issue in Part 2. Video on Channel 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZnRYWd4rrisqKc

[@petaks01]

@@TheGuitologist Great, now I had to sub to that one too... ;)

[@EarlofBaltimore]

Red Bank, NJ... Home of the Quik Stop

[@unkelib4391]

i have herd a lot of your demoes an kan hear you have a bjutiful soul an a good sense of humor on thop of that you is abel to make old shit pley a lot better then that digital shit you kan bay to day ---- respeeekt

[@framusburns-hagstromiii808]

😀😀👍👍☕️☕️👌👌🤗🤗. That amp sounds pretty dang good! Usefull for recording I would think. Great job!

[@TheGuitologist]

It’s got a thing of its own, I think. If you’re looking for that garage sound for a track, it’s got it.

[@ctcards2636]

That speaker ! HAHA! Sorry i have to laugh at how small of a speaker is in such a big enclosure.

[@ctcards2636]

Those caps said "Guaranteed for one year of service" haha :-P

[@ctcards2636]

I really like that Tele your using at the end of the video during the sound clips.