Casiotron 25CS-16 watch repair - Ep 41 - VintageDigitalWatches

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Vintage Digital Watches

Vintage Digital Watches

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@glennpettersson9002
@glennpettersson9002 Жыл бұрын
That was amazing to see not only repairing the watch but improvising your own tools. Thanks for sharing 👍
@MrPleers
@MrPleers 6 жыл бұрын
You''ve got yourself a new subscriber. Great to see these vintage LCD watches restored.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the group, and thank you for the kind comment. Tibi
@yambo59
@yambo59 9 ай бұрын
BEAUTIFUL JOB-! I was pleased to learn how to replace the traces on such a delicate circuit board, didnt know it was possible. Thanks-!!
@marko_g_korenski
@marko_g_korenski 3 жыл бұрын
It was so worth it and worth watching as well! Great job! 😎👏👏
@sfirakiskwstas4993
@sfirakiskwstas4993 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, congrats for the amazing videos presented to us, could you please make a video showing us when a module is broken (measured with a multimeter or some other instrument)? and not repairable, and when a screen is to be thrown away LCD?
@tylovset
@tylovset 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome and pro repair! Love the old Casiotrons.
@CKT1138
@CKT1138 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video! I have an old Casiotron R-14 I'm repairing currently!
@sushilbalakrishnan
@sushilbalakrishnan 6 жыл бұрын
the bracelet looks very special- thanks it was nice informative vedio.
@MichaelGisiger
@MichaelGisiger 7 жыл бұрын
Great work as usual. Video is again very informative, thank you.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael!
@waynebrookes4309
@waynebrookes4309 5 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this channel and I have spent ages searching for my school watch from 93.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Is this Casiotron it?
@waynebrookes4309
@waynebrookes4309 5 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches yep, my dad gave it to me first day of school.
@shaneellasdaicastrestorati3675
@shaneellasdaicastrestorati3675 5 жыл бұрын
Great work, I'm blown away by your skill.
@tsunamirider9895
@tsunamirider9895 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing job! You are truly a craftsman. Great video.
@simonefiore5595
@simonefiore5595 7 жыл бұрын
Another stunning video, thanks for sharing! Don't stop... Never
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
I wont, too many cool digitals in this world.
@newtubeAssassin
@newtubeAssassin 7 жыл бұрын
Really great video 👍
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shane :)
@tomgt007sugden
@tomgt007sugden 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video mate
@vidajohnston9354
@vidajohnston9354 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job!
@Happyfacehotwheels
@Happyfacehotwheels Жыл бұрын
Nice work! I just subscribed. To bad I didn't find this channel 5 years ago.
@kanalo_timso_31
@kanalo_timso_31 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, man! This was the first Video with a hint for the solution of my problem with the stuck pushers of my vintage Casio W-53. Before, I just didn't know how to loosen and disassemble them. Now it works fine. Unfortunately, I scratched a bit of the black inner display painting, but at least I can use the watch now. Great video! Take Care
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and thanks for commenting! Cheers
@zetomanul
@zetomanul 7 жыл бұрын
Great job. I watched it W/ my daughter and even her enjoyed it! :)
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, she has good taste in watches then :). Thank you for the comment Alin
@ReyHarlow
@ReyHarlow 5 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent job, you practically brought it back to life. you have a new subscriber.💪👍
@thegrassyknoll7792
@thegrassyknoll7792 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work once again
@cmb1972
@cmb1972 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent job and video, very inspiring.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Pad Thank you, I appreciate the comment
@peterg.3642
@peterg.3642 6 жыл бұрын
Respect! Great video!
@TimeArtPiece
@TimeArtPiece 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative, as always.
@pepebel2809
@pepebel2809 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job!!!
@tapemachinemusic2125
@tapemachinemusic2125 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the great repair video. btw, my casiotron works for more than 45 years;)
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Tape Machine Music If batteries are changed then they last forever
@tapemachinemusic2125
@tapemachinemusic2125 4 жыл бұрын
​@@VintageDigitalWatches Cool! I`m proud of my old casiotron;)
@krisarsov76
@krisarsov76 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work bro !!!
@sokauo
@sokauo 7 жыл бұрын
Awsome, the silver paint is a great technic.
@taniyanishad2806
@taniyanishad2806 6 жыл бұрын
Very very much knowledgeable man and great pasanase
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dinesh
@ninteski
@ninteski 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@antoniosgaravatti19
@antoniosgaravatti19 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video I bought a 95qs-42, I didn't make an accurate inspection, try to simply change battery a BR 2320 and put a classic CR2016. The display is showed only if I press the light, stay on for 3/4 seconds then fade away. Other buttons seem not to have effects, only the light button (the light works). Thank you
@johngoodin6344
@johngoodin6344 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a Casio (Module 5082) that someone had buggered the battery clip on. No amount of working with the clip will get it to hold. Well at least I found a work around for this. What you need is something that when you close the battery back it presses down on the battery clip and holds it in place. I've found a furniture leg stick on works fairly well. Remove the adhesive backing and press it down centered on the battery clip. The real problem is getting it just tight enough to hold down the battery at the same time allowing you to firmly attach the watch case back.
@stevenuk
@stevenuk 6 жыл бұрын
very interesting to see, great video.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven!
@doctorbo5810
@doctorbo5810 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video!
@glenz1975
@glenz1975 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, you have given me some inspiration to revisit some of my Casio & Seiko modules which aren't working and investigate further to see if I can make them function again. Electronics being my profession I am quite at home using an oscilloscope and multimeter etc, just need more patience and to take my time with these fiddlily things! Corrosion is such a pain but you seem to have good luck in revivng modules. Am really enjoying your videos and keep up the great work and have subscribed to your channel ☺
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, glad the videos gave you inspiration, give fixing them a go and you never know, the bug may catch you even more
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 6 жыл бұрын
Module made by NEC. Never seen that before.
@traviswalker8933
@traviswalker8933 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Casio did that to keep the costs down.
@digitalcasio2704
@digitalcasio2704 6 жыл бұрын
I would love for you to attempt a restoration on a really rough shape non working watch.
@luismigliorero3905
@luismigliorero3905 Жыл бұрын
espectacular lo tuyo. felicitaciones
@alexanderrojkov7915
@alexanderrojkov7915 Жыл бұрын
hello, in your video at 13:54 I saw a plastic box with rubber gaskets for WATCH PUSHERS. Could you tell me where you buy them? I can't find them on the Internet, probably because of my English. Also, if it's not a secret, where did you buy the silver paint? Sincerely, Alexander
@originalraggaman
@originalraggaman Жыл бұрын
Hi, is there an alternative to silver compound? Can you use homemade graphite dust and glue?
@maravilla0263
@maravilla0263 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I have casiotro 06-504 and it doesnt wokr. I cleaned with alcohol but nothing. I suppose that a old battery damage the watch... any idea what can I do? thanks
@ganda2516
@ganda2516 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I got casio module 122, s004. After cleaning, and put new battery, AC several times, the microlight working, but the lcd still dead. I have no idea what happened. I think the lcd is broken.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ganda, the module of the watch should have 2 lines that go the battery, check with a multimeter if those lines show continuity to the battery pads then the modules get power. If the module has power and still nothing on the LCD then it is either the module or the LCD. If you have access to an Oscilloscope you can check if either of the lines going to the LCD show a square signal, if they do, then it is indeed the LCD. Regards, Tibi
@hanifkhair29
@hanifkhair29 4 жыл бұрын
Li have two old stock casio watch..and it is not working..i tried to repair but cant..i would love u to repair it..but i think it is impossible..im from malaysia
@charliewillis8527
@charliewillis8527 2 жыл бұрын
Mine has one button stuck in so I can't 0 the stop watch any tips on repairing the buttons
@ntag411
@ntag411 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a watch oiler tool, comes in various sizes, may work for application of silver conductor fluid.
@jiriholecek9697
@jiriholecek9697 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,please,what number of sandpaper do you use for glass? And what is the name of the final polishing powder? Thank you very much and I look forward to more videos. Do you have any video instructions for polishing glass?
@charliewillis8527
@charliewillis8527 2 жыл бұрын
It is a casino 834 trw corona football watch I bought it from a bootsale so I have no instruction on how to use it either which would be helpful it's in nice condition with the original strap
@reggieavila758
@reggieavila758 4 жыл бұрын
Good day sir. Im watching your Content right now. I will ask what is the possible problem of my wacth. I thought that is a battery replacement but when I check the battery is in good condition.however the monitor has no display.....
@WeWanTYouRSoLe
@WeWanTYouRSoLe 5 жыл бұрын
very informative. thx man.
@josecarlosgonzales6182
@josecarlosgonzales6182 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what´s the name of the silver component are you used to fix the eletronic contacts?
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 4 жыл бұрын
Can you still get glass for Casio I think mine was a 78/79 rectangular similar to this watch but the edges stuck out a bit more where the strap would go, worth any money in working condition
@freeatlast1963
@freeatlast1963 6 жыл бұрын
Genius at work
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
:)) thanks for the comment, far from genius, obsessed maybe
@enazeem
@enazeem 5 жыл бұрын
i really want to know on how to repair a casio illuminator backlight. tq
@esgehtweiter
@esgehtweiter 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, what sort of grit does the sandpaper have? Super work makes me happy again and again as you bring back the old clocks. Thank you
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, what I now use for glass is grit 600 to get the scratches out, then go to 800 or 1000, and at the end use the Cerium oxide slurry.
@esgehtweiter
@esgehtweiter 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your nice help then I'll try it out the cerium oxide I have too. Really nice of you. yesterday, unfortunately, a Casio A203 (Blue Thunder) when polishing with the oxide powder first heard Glass has probably become too hot and jumped :-(
@jirifrasunek6710
@jirifrasunek6710 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I want to ask what is the name of the silver fluid what you fixed the contacts. Thank you
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Leitsilber L 100
@WhisperExtreme
@WhisperExtreme 6 жыл бұрын
3:00 this tool. What is the serie number? I need one for mi watches too!
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
WhisperExtreme it is a flathead screwdriver, it doesn't have a serial number
@WhisperExtreme
@WhisperExtreme 6 жыл бұрын
Thx, great work by the way, i love vintage watches too. Did you have the casio a168w?
@shaunrish9516
@shaunrish9516 5 жыл бұрын
nice job
@LarryEspenshade
@LarryEspenshade 5 жыл бұрын
Any tips for a fixing a semi functional light button on one of these ? ( Sometimes presses just don't register)
@rafaelbarbosa2597
@rafaelbarbosa2597 5 жыл бұрын
you are a master
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
And you are a comment master, thanks for the comment :)
@davestorr6764
@davestorr6764 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning video Tiberiu… Mostly amazed how well you can remember where all the parts go for the reassembly, thanks the lord for the camera phone 🙂 Anyway, my qstn is does it matter which way round the zebra strips are replaced after removal? Great channel, I’m finding it very useful 👍
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 3 жыл бұрын
I would make a rule that it matters which side of the zebra was on the LCD and which on the board. This is because on the board the traces have a raised profile which during the years will shape the zebra strip with some ridges, the side that goes on the LCD is perfectly flat. On some watches it may not matter because the pressure from the LCD retainers will make sure any misshapes in the zebra strip are accounted for but on some it may matter.
@davestorr6764
@davestorr6764 3 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. Appreciate the help.
@Avidcomp
@Avidcomp 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Hey, I have a 1980 Casio H104 Melody Alarm. I'm missing a pusher (button). Do you think the watch here and others of the period use the same pusher? Also the glass screen has a crack so I'm looking to replace that, but that will need to come from another H104. So I guess I'm on the look out for another broken H104 with a nice screen.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Pushers vary, even inside the same brand.
@finbah5706
@finbah5706 2 жыл бұрын
I need my Grandpa's old Sears digital watch from 1980 fixed. is this something i could send you?
@TechTokOffical
@TechTokOffical Жыл бұрын
Do u offer your services to the public?
@rogerluisangelrodriguezcor2492
@rogerluisangelrodriguezcor2492 5 жыл бұрын
what is the component you paint in the area that is damage
@watchingdanny
@watchingdanny 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with the silver paint. Does it not need to be covered in solder mask to protect it? Great video though, just subscribed.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, ideally yes, should be isokated with whatever means you have. Thanks for the comment.
@donpatrik1
@donpatrik1 Жыл бұрын
Üdv! Milyen típusú elem való bele? (Casiotron 25CS-16)
@guimart77
@guimart77 4 жыл бұрын
Almost at the end of the video, at the left of the watch, looks like you have an S15, When will you talk about it?
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Not to soon :|
@drkesler
@drkesler 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same. After heavy cleaning and remaking negative, it works. Just a strange problem. It only works with the light button pressed, so I disconected the lamp. Have you ever had this case? Greets from Argentina.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard of this before but never experienced it in my watches. Surely there is a short somewhere.
@ms-9
@ms-9 3 ай бұрын
Hello, I have the exact same issue, how did you fix it?
@MIPE83
@MIPE83 7 жыл бұрын
Great!
@sdi1111
@sdi1111 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tiberiu, someone gave me the same watch with similar problems. When I separated the circuit board from the module, a very small spring fell out. I noticed in your video the same spring sitting loose inside the watch as you removed the complete assembly. Are you able to tell me: 1) Where is this spring fitted? 2) What is its purpose? Thanks and regards.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Hi not sure if I am answering your question below but here goes. The watch has 6 springs, 4 for each of the buttons, and another two for the battery terminals. Inside the battery bay you have the bigger one that has a rectangular shape and another on the side. I assume your's is the one on the side that picks up the + from battery. Regards.
@sdi1111
@sdi1111 5 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches Please check your video and as you pull the module out from the housing, the small coil spring is sitting inside the housing, resting on the inside glass display. Please advise.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
@@sdi1111 Check 16:31 as I put it back, that is the alarm spring. The speaker of this watch is sitting behind it's glass.
@sdi1111
@sdi1111 5 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches So sorry - I missed that part, and that is why my alarm is not working. Thanks for that. Best regards.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 5 жыл бұрын
@@sdi1111 Hey Robert no worries, cheers!
@jeroenclaes
@jeroenclaes 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm restoring my late grandfather's Casiotron 38CR-12. o you happen to have a repair manual for this watch or know how to get one? Thanks! :)
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have never see n a repair manual for this watch.
@consultoriojuridico9785
@consultoriojuridico9785 4 жыл бұрын
Tengo el mismo problema.... Como puedo enviarte mí pieza para reparación? Saludos... Desde Argentina
@simonefiore5595
@simonefiore5595 7 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me the silver conductive paint brand ? I'm actual using one but i'm not totally satisfied at all...thanks buddy
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Simone, I am actually using this one: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KEMO-L100-Solaris-conducting-silver-varnish-3-g-Conductive-paint/222405276201?epid=2256098006&hash=item33c8633229:g:SewAAOSw1~JZSjcQ I thin the brand is Kemo. It usually takes 24 hours to be fully dry and resistant to any other coatings you want to apply over it like paint or conformal coating. But within 10 minutes you can test if it made the link between the points you want to bridge. Regards, Tibi
@simonefiore5595
@simonefiore5595 7 жыл бұрын
many thanks.... :-)
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Anytime.
@sum_amoggy107
@sum_amoggy107 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video very informative. Can I ask - did you put the watch module casing into the ultrasonic cleaner, or just the strap? (I'm wondering if it's safe to put the whole watch in, with module removed of course) thanks
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Athough some do it, I don't recommend putting the watchmodule in the ultrasonic As for the case you can but watch out what solvemts you use in the cleaner as it may remove the wroting on the dial. Aslo diassemble evrything, you don't want watter trapped in the button holes.
@sum_amoggy107
@sum_amoggy107 3 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches many thanks for the advice
@MIPE83
@MIPE83 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Tiberiu, i‘ve got a problem with two Casio Watches: They function like normal with a new battery, but after some hours the batteries are completely drained. I‘ve heard of that issue from someone else too. The problem was the displaylight, which was continuously on. But my watches do not have a displaylight. Do you have a suggestion, what could be wrong?
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, what models are the watches and are they identical? Second, it might be a number of issues, like a short on the battery, or a defective part on the watch's board, etc. I can't tell you for sure unless you give me more detail and maybe send a pic of the watches with their back-cover removed. And we can move this conversation to vintagedigitalwatches@gmail.com
@luisbalderas3679
@luisbalderas3679 6 жыл бұрын
Hey men i think im a little late but.. what type of batterie do you use for the watch?
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would either have to reopen the watch or you would have to look in the video if there is a moment where you can see the inscription on the battery, and I believe there is. Regards, Tibi
@AaronJ323
@AaronJ323 6 жыл бұрын
Hello vintagedigitalwatches I loved the video, I was wondering if you would like to repair a watch for me it's an old Casio chronograph gold watch much like the early 90's version if you think you could do this for me that would be awesome thank you.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry, I can't at the moment, I have accepted too many repair requests.
@jhoncova1
@jhoncova1 7 жыл бұрын
Que buen trabajo
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
jhon harold Cortes Gracias!
@Sestorema
@Sestorema 4 жыл бұрын
I have a similar SEIKO LCD watch that I love, but it does not work. Can I send to you for fixing? Obviously, not for free 👍🙂
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo Mura I don't take repairs anymore
@Sestorema
@Sestorema 4 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches Aha... 🤷🏼‍♂️
@Sestorema
@Sestorema 4 жыл бұрын
@@VintageDigitalWatches 🙁
@simonefiore5595
@simonefiore5595 6 жыл бұрын
just yesterday i got a NOS crystal for this Casio.... :-)
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Did you find it on eBay Simone?
@simonefiore5595
@simonefiore5595 6 жыл бұрын
No,i'm a "specialist" to found old parts or watches (i'm talking about digitals olny,i'm NOT into mechanicals) in stores or flea market. Here in Italy there are many old watches stores that still has abandoned stuff....
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
Simone Fiore i'll make sure to visit Italy at one point :)
@simonefiore5595
@simonefiore5595 6 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting you :-) . Ehm do you have an email address to share our digital watches experieces?thanks...
@danmac0
@danmac0 9 ай бұрын
I bought a similar watch but solar and not from casio, its from otron (south korea). Maybe the name has something to do with that.
@palcsizmas1342
@palcsizmas1342 3 жыл бұрын
Okos órát megveszem megtett nekem Veresegyház 3 fdsz 4
@temmink2012
@temmink2012 6 жыл бұрын
Love your cleaning precision but tbh.. vintage casios are cooler with wear signs
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 6 жыл бұрын
That is a dilema I always have. Do I leave it with the 30 years of wear history or give it a makeover.
@omega_saxonia
@omega_saxonia 4 жыл бұрын
I like that sticker: no 0 jewels, haha
@artklinic
@artklinic 28 күн бұрын
FOR THAT KIND OF CORROSION TAKE - BALLISTOL - REMOVES ALL GREEN PAQUE.....
@X-Gen-001
@X-Gen-001 3 жыл бұрын
Toilet paper rejoices in being chosen for a higher purpose.
@venkataramanak7573
@venkataramanak7573 Жыл бұрын
Super wach
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 3 жыл бұрын
VDW: "Bodge wire? What's that?"
@lalcaka6505
@lalcaka6505 5 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@johnnyfunstuffs5618
@johnnyfunstuffs5618 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I have a Casiotron 31CGS-10 (gold plated) fully working for sale for 84 USD free shipping. Are you interested sir? I love my casiotrons, but my collection has grown to the point where I cannot care for all of my watches.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry, no.
@kostependrhs
@kostependrhs 7 жыл бұрын
Now its ok. Video plays normaly.
@VintageDigitalWatches
@VintageDigitalWatches 7 жыл бұрын
kostependrhs glad to hear it!
@theID2
@theID2 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting. only negative is why you feel you need that garbage music in the background.
@ابوعبداللهابوعبدالله-م3ي
@ابوعبداللهابوعبدالله-م3ي 4 жыл бұрын
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