VIOLENCE ON A SATURDAY NIGHT?! $HIT! | Upchurch- Tom MacDonald Diss | Here we go…

[@UpchurchOfficial]

6:51 man that would be a dream come true

[@Dan0TheMano]

This went hard. 🫡

[@derpyc.hoovesIV]

Quit editing reactors videos to lie to your fans about why they won't react to you anymore. Shit cringe as fuck.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Would love to see it. My brain couldn’t handle Church-aggedon 🔥 🔥 🙏

[@MikeWhoo-gy5jq]

Lmao who’s earl Winslow lol not even gonna call that a diss track lol just another weak attempt by Ryan to clout chase lol Tom can’t even see him 😂

[@jc-kj2on]

I dont understand how he puts out this stuff so fast and its straight killer line after line dayyyum

[@wallszymusic]

UpChurch’s wordplay is on another level. An Tom does tour because I’ve had afew chances to open for him.

[@granite6196]

Lmfao with your two likes? Bro you would have opened for no one then 😂 Would have been an empty stadium since only you and and syrup sipper know about it

[@BiffsEquipment]

I just checked out your music and subscribed. I'm lovin what I heard keep it up!

[@wallszymusic]

@@BiffsEquipment Thanks BiffsEquipment! I appreciate you taking the time to listen. It means a lot! More to come soon 🙏💯💪

[@Hamilton8122]

#hog4life

[@macrocrypto112]

Go check tom tour 2024 and report back 😂😂😂

[@ThrobbinWilliams22]

Tbh the message from Toms political rap LITERALLY effects my kids future and beyond and not enough people are aware of the silent war that’s happening. What Tom does is bigger than just music

[@Daniels86711]

His message might be important, but he doesn't genuinely believe any of it. He says what is going to trend, and plays on people's emotions about all these political issues to get a fan base. *shrug* He plays his fans like a fiddle to become famous.

[@JoeLancaster]

I know the message etc is bad. But he's not that big, so I see it more as just cringe. I wouldn't worry about it.

[@TheBibleIsaWeirdThing]

Tom makes really bad rap music. Thats it. Period. Nothing else matters. Keep music as music and keep the politics to a fiar minimum, its fine here and there but it being the only thing he raps about makes him corny, and obviously he doesnt care about hip hop.

[@ThrobbinWilliams22]

@@TheBibleIsaWeirdThing lol when you prove you don’t know what your taking about off rip I can’t take shit serious bout you… Toms biggest critics atleast admit he CAN rap

[@TheBibleIsaWeirdThing]

@@ThrobbinWilliams22 He can "rap" sure, depending on your opinion of rapping. But objectively, he can't make good music to save his life. 😭 Lyrics are corny and dumb, he is just an Eminem clone, a very bad one at that. NF is a way better Eminem clone than Tom and NF isn't really my cup of tea either.

[@xytronitro9429]

"if a rapper gonna diss me, probably about to drop a new record". Huh. Interesting, Upchurch is about to to drop a new record!

[@artevann7060]

He's not attacking Tom because of that. He's calling him out for his gimmicky hypocrisy. I'm sure it made Ryan feel some sort of way for him saying guys guys were gonna put country rap on the map. Especially since he already said. "I'm not country rap, I don't drive a truck, I don't chew tobacco, get the Chevy stuck in feet of mud. He's calling him out too for being a lying hypocrite poser who's all image. Needless to say , I like both Tom and Ryan but upchurch does have a point. He's a gimmick stealing chameleon who cares more about making money and talking the talk.. but not walking the walk.

[@scottbushman9050]

@xytronitro9429 YEP!! I totally agree!! And @artevann7060 You might be right about Upchurch thinking or feeling a kind of way about MacDonald’s songs or statements…. But right now we’re talking about why he chose to make & release this diss track RIGHT NOW…. Instead of a while back, or in a while from now. This creates drama, and drama creates buzz& hype. And you want as much buzz & hype as you can possibly get right before you drop a new album!!

[@artevann7060]

@scottbushman9050 are you sure? Because it was recently that Tom said "guys we're gonna put country rap on the map". How can Ryan react before Tom made the statement? Like I said, I'm not taking anything away from Tom, I thoroughly enjoy him voicing his opinions on issues and a lot of them need to be addressed, so I'm all for it. Just saying, I can see why Ryan believes his toes were stepped on and decided to say "I'm already here bruh, stick to your own lane and don't be a hypocrite."

[@guardian7o]

Lol so true

[@scottbushman9050]

@@artevann7060 Ok yeah, I have no problem agreeing with you on that point. I guess I didn’t know Tom said that about “putting country rap on the map” or whatever/however he said it…. Cuz that totally makes sense, and I’d probably be a little pissed too if I was Upchurch & I heard Tom say that shit!! But it’s still like the PERFECT TIME for him to drop that diss track and get the buzz factor way up, right before his new album drops haha.

[@Migmaw]

The lose yourself flip was funny as hell to me 😂. Stay blessed Cliff 👊🏼

[@tierneylogan5943]

Switching into Eminem from a brooks and dunn reference is why i will always love church 😅

[@Migmaw]

@@tierneylogan5943 Definitely an original. There is nobody like UpChurch in music, Stay blessed 👊🏼

[@treble8921]

holy crap cliff where'd all these subs come from?? you used to be my favorite small-time reactor now you're my favorite big-time reactor ;D great work my guy

[@berniewatts5028]

Your reactions to all these disses have been so much fun and entertaining. You don’t have to choose, you represent both. ❤️❤️❤️👵🏼

[@andrewdominick1000]

Thanks cliff for being a real reactor and doing the music. All these people looking at this politically are brainwashed

[@424stormygirl]

Black Pegusus actually held a show on one of Toms Tours and they brought Tom in and he brought Nova with him. He talks about it in the Gang Gang reactiion.

[@Shoot6675]

That composition be empty a fucking lifetime. Lifetime is a brand of composition book

[@JC-qn5gk]

Upchurch saying "Please respond Tom, PLEASE, because I have a new album coming out, with CDs now, just like you, and my views are WAY down over the last few years... So Please, PLEASE TOM HELP ME SELL MY STUFF!"

[@jasonrichardson1999]

Yet church also has like 700 million more views so

[@JC-qn5gk]

@@jasonrichardson1999 not lately. He's been on a downward swing for years. Last big hit was Holler Boys 5 years ago. Take Church's last 10 Official music videos and add up the total views = a little over 7 million or so. Tom's last 10 Official music videos total views = 86 million. Church is great, but he is definitely on a downward trajectory. While Toms is all up. Thus, the fake beef. Maybe if Ryan quit with murder mysteries and secret knowledge and nonstop drama videos and focused on music....

[@spirit_shadow9590]

When you see 2 friends fighting you just gotta slap them both and tell them to stop being idiots 😂

[@zionix15432]

theyve never been friends

[@sharkbeatz313]

Great reaction Cliff. Church just playing around thats the scary thing. Im here for it!

[@CrippledMenace]

Lol hes shouting at rhe clouds tom has better shit to do like being number 1 for 2 weeks strait

[@michaelpleasant8416]

​@@CrippledMenace a number 1 gimmick shit track with Ben Shapiro, that's not a musical accomplishment lmfao

[@DevicCypher]

Nah upchurch is trying his hardest again and it’s trash yet again

[@michaelthomas229]

@@michaelpleasant8416facts you can’t tell the hog bots nothing they live an breath the fake world 💯

[@aggiev8561]

​@michaelpleasant8416 if it's #1 it means millions of people disagree with your "it's shit" opinion. Seriously, it's so sad that Upchurch and his incel fans are mad and rambling for no actual reason.

[@roncrouch404]

Upchurch is just commiting career suicide at this point. Not sure what he has to gain by attacking Tom...but has a whole lot to lose.

[@coreyeichelberger2516]

😂😂😂😂yeah no church is a different beast I like Tom but he’s not beating church 😂

[@roncrouch404]

@coreyeichelberger2516 not beating church? Interesting. Guessing y'all have forgotten what Tom did to Mac lethal...either way, Tom doesn't have to compete with church bc they're in different leagues. Tom is in the majors playing with worldwide billboard number ones. Church is still riding the pine in the minors trying to curtail on Tom's success bc church can't do it himself. I pride myself on knowing and listening to a wide array of music across all decades and genres and if it weren't for folks posting these reactions I would have forgotten church even existed. But that's not the point. Tom released Don't look down for a reason and all church is doing is showing why. Nuff said.

[@coreyeichelberger2516]

@@roncrouch404 upchurch isn’t Mac lethal so you can’t compare the two 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@roncrouch404]

@coreyeichelberger2516 weren't comparing church to mac lethal. It was a showcase of what Tom can do, even way back then without hardly trying. If you didn't understand that than maybe you aren't qualified to be in this discussion...

[@jasonrichardson1999]

​@@roncrouch404Upchurch has something like 700 million more views though

[@mandelaeffectresidue2822]

Are u going to react to Upchurch lieing about another reactor 🤔🤔

[@ThePremierZ]

You mean the video that was released that ended up not being a lie?

[@tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104]

I dont think Tom needs to respond because Ryan already did,"Tom MacDonald is alot smarter than most people give him credit for, you know why hes smart ,he reads and stays to himself,if someone is talking about Tom then TOM IS WINNING" Ryan Upchurch

[@Jeremybinstock]

Love them both.. fuckin face to face and get the bag. Y'all could make a great record... squash it

[@randyjones725]

Dude if you even think that Tom is as talented or even close to Ryan talent level then your already lost and you need to see a dr for your he trauma cause it’s not close at all. Not only is Ryan killing Tom he’s also killing Adam and the other stooge he’s beating all three of you 3 stooges in a song he isn’t even having to try and if you want to get respect then just quit and stop and admit to defeat guys.

[@tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104]

@randyjones725 guess you don't like direct quotes from your boy,he said it not me,go tell him

[@randyjones725]

@@tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104 go tell who and who said what I didn’t see this till just now. Tom is no where near even in the same conversation as upchurch

[@Carissa11-18]

So I like Tom & Church but if I had to pick one I would choose Tom because he's actually waking people up. What he's doing is actually working. Church and other right wing conservative rappers can call him a fence rider sure whatever. Yes he's a centerist rapper that leans right on some issues but that is the exact type of rapper that is going to get through to the other side or people with rational thought/common sense that's just been mislead by the media. Left wing rappers are in an echo chamber and so are right wing rappers. There's a reason why leftists that hate both Upchurch & Tom are embedded in Creek right now cheering on Upchurch. They want to destroy Tom then Upchurch will go back into his echo chamber they don't need Upchurch destroyed his art isn't as much of a threat to them. Our country is going off the rails right now and I'll take whatever help we can get. I don't think Tom is grifting he's too well researched in my opinion to not believe in what he's rapping. But even if it was a grift I wouldn't care because it is helping and working. I also go back to Adam Calhoun in my mind I don't question his patriotism and love of his country. He's spent the most time with Tom and loves him like a brother, wouldn't he see through that shxt? It would be fun if he responds I don't know if he will or not. I will say I lost a little respect for Church when he pulled a leftist MSM move on that reactor FTB.

[@unspoken7704]

He's hard core right and spins a specific narrative. The irony is waking people but hating on anyone "woke". Sad that his immature songs are about the same extreme views on both sides and not on a focus to meet any where in the middle or compromise. That is how you know Tom is full of it. All he is doing is stirring the pot for controversy to make a buck off a manipulated uninformed audience. Upchurch is genuine and can see through the fake glamor Tom presents and what he attempts to represent, modern suburban Trump crypto bros who eat up the Daily Wire, think Joe Rogan is a genius, and believe Prager U is the penicle of modern intellect.

[@theskeptik1]

That’s a lot of words to acknowledge that Tom is a grifter.

[@Carissa11-18]

@@theskeptik1 Lol you just want "Tom being a grifter" to be true. But that's not what I said at all. I said I feel like he is too well researched to not believe in what he's rapping but if it turned out he was a grifter I wouldn't care because what he's doing is working. I just want a better future for my 5 year old son. I appreciate whatever help off the non critical thinking crazy train we're on.

[@Rap_Hip-Hop_Carnivore]

Wtf are you talking about Tom IS the definition of a ECHO chamber. Wayne and Em will colab with one anther, both are on different political sides, but put their political aside and will put out the best hits. There's a lot of left learning artist that'll collaborate with right leaning artist.

[@Carissa11-18]

Hahaha as you can see by the responses to me leftists are embedded in Creek. One of Upchurch's complaints is that Tom is a fence rider if you notice they're saying Tom is far right. Hope you're noticing who's screaming next to you creeksquad. 😂

[@dacronicspotgaming6104]

Up Church has some nice flows and sound also he seems a crazy funny expressive dude. The line , You got Merc with an ink pen, had me 😂😂😂😂 keep up the awesome content Cliff 🤜🏻

[@Archangel3083]

Toms rapping about real life shit that actually matters. Things that need to be said and provoking conversations that need to be had. Like the content of his lyrics or not it’s still rap and he still kills it. I like both these guys I just don’t agree with the angle Church is taking it. Just seems stalker and petty. He’s living rent free in Churches head and it would appear that Tom has t given it thought. No Response pretty much covers all of it.

[@stephm5871]

No its a point of view. Tom's songs are relevant yes but they are relevant only for the next 10 yrs. After that most will not be to viewable. Listen to what Upchurch is actually saying. He is daring Tom to do more timeless stuff about who TOM IS. To whit White Boys I like the song BUT Adam is rapping about Adam stuff. Who is Tom rapping about? Not Tom stuff. At the time I thought it was weird but shrugged it off cause it is a fun song.

[@RobbinBonds]

lol just say u dont listen to church.

[@Archangel3083]

@@stephm5871 than you haven’t listened to Toms non political songs.

[@Archangel3083]

@@RobbinBonds I have a lot of Churches albums

[@RobbinBonds]

thats a cap right there or u would know that ryan been saying what tom said lol u a bum thats lieing lol an dont listen to church @@Archangel3083

[@joelstillson6713]

I'm just here for the comments 😅 people getting all pissed over two guys, who are at the top of their game in their separate lanes, that don't give a single sh*t about you or me 🤣 it's like politics really- they're in it to make money period... Just my 2¢ 🤷

[@berniewatts5028]

My sentiments exactly, just about everything is about $$$.

[@424stormygirl]

Except Tom ain't playing ryans games kinda makes it a one way battle.

[@Swearengen1980]

@@424stormygirl But the reactors still reactor to it and we're still commenting on it. So he still wins 😂

[@TrentHB-GA]

@@424stormygirl church is playing the game that Tom can’t handle. Y’all can say whatever you want but Thomas is scared shitless of this beef

[@kyleham4029]

@@TrentHB-GA 🎯facts over their feelings

[@hayley4978]

Always appreciate your breakdowns. Thanks for doing this on your day off. ❤

[@BoundlessVlogs07]

The way Upchuck has ben ranting on instagram got me kinda worried for his health, he rants and goes off on random youtubers and reactions while taking clips out of content, I swear he abt to do some Benzino shit

[@noodlewater12]

Facts

[@theskeptik1]

Upchurch is a top tier lyricist, it’s impossible for him to Benzino. This track proves as much.

[@libertykitten003]

I haven't read ALL comments on IG or even on YT for that matter, so I'm not sure if anyone has pointed out this fact - if you look closely, his pupils are EXTREMELY dilated on ALL those IG videos. There are certain things that cause this. I've got my own theory, but I'll let y'all do your own research. Although, to me, it pretty much confirms what many people have already strongly suggested.

[@smalltowntxscratcher6573]

Tom's fan boys are legit losing it. You try to say Upchurch is on drugs so what if he is. Last time I checked he is grown man. You can't stand that Tom is getting smoked by Upchurch

[@BoundlessVlogs07]

@@smalltowntxscratcher6573 Losing??? The numbers aint lying. Upchurch is the one falling off rn its a last moment clout chase

[@PumpkinPie969]

Tom toured Europe with Cool Keith and Onyx back in the day, and he hasn't toured since C19 because of Nova. His last tour was 2019 with Struggle, and then a tour with FIR was canceled. Has Ryan ever toured Europe? Nope. There's a tour video of Tom performing Helluvit on his channel. He's talked about going on tour, but I think they may be waiting til Nova finishes her album, which should be soon. People seem to forget that Tom produces his own stuff, plus he just produced those 2 albums with Adam AND he also produces Nova's stuff. Ryan has far more time on his hands as he only writes lyrics. Tom does it all, including signing CDs, which Ryan doesn't do. Ryan pokes at Tom for being a homebody, but the dude works 24/7! How is that a dig when you have Ryan playing with lightbulbs 😅 as he criticizes a man who actually works and spends his free time with Nova and family? It's crazy! Maybe Ryan should worry more about his own career and worry less about the careers of others. He only did 2 shows in 2022, so who is he to talk when he's only just now going on tour for the first time in 2 years? And i think he's going to cancel his tour for 'health' reasons. Always love your reactions, Cliff. I just can't stand Ryan now, and I used to be a fan.

[@Frost11511]

So defensive.

[@brandondavis5596]

For all of the Tom lovers in here look up Dear Tom by Topher. I’ve been with Tom since he dropped Whiteboy. And he was rapping like a liberal. Anti police. Didn’t like Trump. But then Topher dropped The Patriot. Out of nowhere Tom became a Christian conservative. Topher noticed and called him out.

[@llo9491]

I can say Tom MacDonald used to tour, I remember getting emails telling me to get tickets. But that has been awhile since I've gotten one. Now it's mostly when a video is dropping and asking me to download on iTunes like everyone uses iTunes. I like both Upchurch and Tom MacDonald but I feel like Upchurch is having some jealousy with Tom MacDonald. Just seeing Tom blow up then a short time later a Upchurch releases a diss track.

[@CrippledMenace]

His girl has lots of health issues its a Sacrifice he makes to make sure shes good

[@llo9491]

@@CrippledMenace that's right, she was in the hospital like what 2yrs ago due to it if I recall.

[@CrippledMenace]

@@llo9491 yeah she came back like a beast i forget which video it was for i think it was dont look down. I dont get the hate for his choice to put her health first i guess a healthy relationship confuses people

[@llo9491]

@@CrippledMenace a lot of times people just want to hate and find small things to hate on, quite often it's at someone who is doing great. But song that popped into mind when she really went off was No Good Bastards with Tom and Brandon Hart.

[@ranndomundead9112]

Just weird timing. The issues started months ago. Little things like upchurch pulling traveler and the other tom songs off his channel tipped people off. Theres no jealousy here. Church is above Tom and he knows it. Toms also a grifter though. Hes not actually about hiphop and is only in the game to make a bag off stupid people while political tensions are hot. The dude hasnt opened his mouth in years without trying to beg for merch sales in the same breath.

[@v8ko]

How to say you’re jealous of someone’s career without saying you’re jealous of someone’s career.

[@jessealvarez8838]

Church mad Tom didn't respond and so he brings out another diss. How many more he gonna release after this? I hope Tom don't respond at all.

[@unspoken7704]

I hope not as well. Tom is straight cringebro

[@ranndomundead9112]

Tom wont respond, hes a coward. Dude cant even defend himself on a mic.

[@laynestaley7599]

Toms a coward

[@GCharlesE]

Tom literally has lines in his music referring to this nonsense. "I exist outside the Internet, done shows around the world...". Pretty sure you've even reacted to it, Cliff. C'mon. I hope Tom doesn't respond. This is just highlighting how desperate and immature, Ryan is at this point. I used to love his music and message, too.

[@HalfTonChevy]

Was he touring before he stated clout chasing politics 🤔

[@psychotickreeps]

Yeah toms only good song I hate hip hop that shit fire

[@Swearengen1980]

You can look up Tom's tour history and there's not a single show in that archive that says he's ever performed overseas. You do realize rappers say shit all the time that isn't true, right? 2018-2019, every show is in the States.

[@killerheelscrime]

Oh dear someone doesn't understand battle rap and is in their feelings 🙄. This is battle rap its an art its not deep. If you don't get it you're not a real rap fan 🤷‍♀️

[@147salsa]

​@@Swearengen1980😂🤣😂🤣 awe creeksquad forgetting how to use the internet again 😂😂 There's literal interviews... 😂😂

[@shannenmanso1]

Tom raps about things he is interested in and he’s told everybody he’s interested in politics. Plus everybody knows Tom has many different genres and does whatever he wants. He doesn’t give a shit what Upchurch is saying.

[@JimmyJames562]

Tom only makes music about what his niche audience cares about and that's facts. The majority of Tom's fan base doesn't even like hip hop or rap, so Tom responding really doesn't make any sense.

[@johncourtney8825]

His girlfriend is married to a industry guy. Tom doesn't get citizenship because he would have to pay taxes. Pyramid scheme. Upchurch knows him personally. It's gonna get worse.

[@johncourtney8825]

Oh, he cares.

[@unspoken7704]

Tom sounds like he sweats about alot of made up issues and cares enough about it to whine on his songs about it.

[@megg0810]

Tom is only interested in making money. Period. His fans are blind sheep.

[@aviator2252]

he said he was going to controll our sleep lmao good to see ya have good evening

[@samurai215]

Don't know about Tom doing shows, but Im doing a road trip across PA from Philly to Canton in June to see Upchurch. Cant fucking wait.

[@tbexecutioner5392]

Upchurch prolly bout to drop a new album. 😂😂

[@lambofgod0086]

Tom toured prior to the pandemic. He was supposed to go on tour with Falling in Reverse in November of 2019 but the guitarist of FIR passed away, so the tour got canceled. But yes tom has toured but with novas health they have taken it easy on touring.

[@Anidawehi]

His tours was bars and not venues like Upchurch. Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments. Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards. Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch. Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist. Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle. Now that's the facts. 🎉 IBlackfeet Nation Creeksquad Holla girl

[@kylewest100]

If nova has to live like the bubble boy she can keep her ass at home. Make her ass a stay at home GF. Like really wtf.

[@tierneylogan5943]

Why does nova have to go on tour with him? She part of the show? lol not to mention she just put out her own album, she can’t be too sick

[@johncourtney8825]

​@@tierneylogan5943his girlfriend's husband may not be able to get off work, him being in the industry and all.

[@markaustin5912]

@@tierneylogan5943 😂😂😂 Are you her doctor

[@TracyLynn077]

Yes, tom has toured, you can find them in a search on YT. But he never tours without Nova who has had some health issues . He IS planning to tour again hopefully this year

[@Anidawehi]

Tom doesn't tour. Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments. Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards. Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch. Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist. Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle. IBlackfeet Nation Creeksquad Holla girl

[@BitterBettyCarole]

Tom, has not try to appeal to any thing from the south!! I use to rock with Ryan heavily but feel like he had lost. All his explanations really make no sense. Love you Cliff but couldn’t watch after this part. I will catch you in another video my friend. Much love ❤️

[@Anidawehi]

Upchurch is exposing that fake artist Tom Hannah Montana McDonald.

[@marcbrown6391]

Tom toured before Covid but hasn’t since.

[@MikeWhoo-gy5jq]

Ryan does like one show a year if that

[@shiTheadith]

So he's scared?

[@MikeWhoo-gy5jq]

About to is different than has lol let’s see if he actually follows through

[@cathywilliams7636]

​@MikeWhoo-gy5jq You can actually buy tickets online for his shows. And, People who are Upchurch fans know he tours regularly. I honestly don't care if Tom tours or not. I remember he use to. But that his his choice.

[@flisan4385]

​@@cathywilliams7636 he's choosing not to, due to Novas health. He's staying home to take care of her and be there.

[@loreleidixon3651]

Tom did some touring in the US with Nova in like 2016 - 2019

[@424stormygirl]

And before that he did world wide tours.

[@mclovin8297]

@@424stormygirl and prior to that he toured the galaxies.. am I doing this right?

[@shiTheadith]

​@@mclovin8297😂😂😂

[@Swearengen1980]

@@424stormygirl No he didn't. His archive shows he has done zero shows overseas. The only tours the concert archive shows is 18/19. Dear Rappers came out in 2018 and before that, he had NO audience. He was broke. He sure as shit didn't tour overseas when he didn't have a single song anyone liked or heard of.

[@gerneticut]

IF Tom toured overseas it was probably as a wrestler

[@GCharlesE]

Upchurch must not know literally any of Tom's non political music. Pretty obvious, for someone "so smart," didn't do any actual research. I really like Ryan's older catalog, but this shit makes no sense

[@theeternalsw0rd]

More like chooses to ignore it when convenient. He had a bar about Ghost.

[@sabastiangipson8163]

Most people don't because they don't listen to any of his c Ds because because that's where most of his music that isn't political is on they Only see what's on KZbin and there is some non political on KZbin

[@amberpowell2609]

Tom did a song with an actual country artist also who lives in the south but in no way did Tom acted like he lived it... I cant even. Church done said about 100 reasons and they all reaches.

[@VIOLENTxLJx]

Acting like church isn't bigger then the country artist tom had... lameeeeeoooooo

[@kylegrady2678]

@@VIOLENTxLJxUpchurch is not bigger than John rich from Big and Rich but nice try on that

[@VIOLENTxLJx]

@kylegrady2678 a quick 30 second Google search will prove you're wrong

[@kylegrady2678]

@@VIOLENTxLJx big and rich have toured all around the world and been around for 20+ years Upchurch hasn’t toured anywhere but the US just because you’ve never heard of them doesn’t mean the rest of the world hasn’t

[@amberpowell2609]

@@VIOLENTxLJx even if that's true why the hell does that matter? So you have to be the most popular country artist to be country that makes absolutely no sense lol. Nice try though.

[@88E30]

Not taking sides here. Listen to both. But if church is king of the south then why would it matter if tom came in his “lane”? Not to mention the song tom was on with church that he deleted off his site. Would have shown a little more confidence if he would’ve left it up. Just my opinion.

[@tierneylogan5943]

That was a remix of a church song and the original is 10x better.

[@YOSHI450R]

Church welcomes people into his lane, unless they're fake... see Churches older disses.

[@Swearengen1980]

@@YOSHI450R Yep. Tom has been saying some redneck shit since he teamed up with ACal and it's as fake as can be. Tom is a liberal living in LA, talking about rednecks and guns is just pandering to a demographic. It's ok, that's capitalisms, but it's still fake as shit. I still like it though.

[@gerneticut]

You cant stay king of the ring without battling for the title.

[@147salsa]

​@@tierneylogan5943 dude church deleted it because back when church was a little more rational he even admitted multiple times that Tom killed him and struggle on that song 😂😂😂😂 Church can't have that up 😂😂😂

[@paulasturgis7800]

I appreciate the fact you’re staying neutral. Personally I think it’s terrible Upchurch is doing what he’s doing. Why? Why doesn’t he just concentrate on his music instead of Tom. Be supportive of others that are independent. Who cares if Tom is focusing on what’s going on in our country. I loved Upchurch but I had to drop him because of all his baggage. For a while dude was just crazy. He’s acting like a teen girl who is always wanting attention. So again thanks for being neutral.

[@tjshelton7145]

First reactor that I've seen get the Napoleon reference. Earned a sub. LOL.

[@Nannas-Porch]

Tom's a psycho?? 😂. Church trying to make some Jack for these million dollar law suits he's facing. Hahaha . He wants to tell everyone else's "dirty laundry" ... We need more "Melvins" UpChurch! Haha. Love you Cliff and appreciate your non-bias...i just can't with this egotistical nutcase. I'll catch your next one! Love to ya ❤

[@Anidawehi]

Upchurch is the top Independent artist.

[@rb4342]

@@Anidawehi Hahahahahaha!

[@karigann9047]

Agree 💯

[@MikeWhoo-gy5jq]

Lol underground independent maybe nobody knows who he is

[@stevewilliams1878]

​@@AnidawehiUpchurch is not100% independent, is he was he wouldn't need someone to makes his beats he would be making them himself also

[@bobbyogden4574]

Great reaction! Since Tom doesn't have a label, all the money that they would normally make, he makes instead. I think that plays a roll in him not actually NEEDing to tour. For money atleast.

[@Anidawehi]

Yeah because he's owned by the Rockefellers. Free Masons

[@rb4342]

@@Anidawehi You're an i d i o t. Totally a lie right there... go boo hoo some more with cryin Ryan.

[@m.singleton229]

Plus each cell's hella merch. He hasn't toured since covid . Nova has serious respiratory issues. (She almost died a couple years ago.)They are hoping to tour this summer.

[@coreyhenn]

The em not giving him attention went over my head. Appreciate you fan lol

[@corybabcock4263]

Great reaction Cliff, as for Tom going on tour i believe he has many years ago but not anymore only reason he doesn't is due to Nova's health issues. to me it looks like Church is looking for attention or Clout chasing, i don't see any way tom responds to these diss tracks, plus Tom has said in the past he's done with battle rap after the Mac Lethal beef

[@iDeagles]

“Nova’s health blah blah blah”-🤖 Mfer, they live in LA. You hogbots are something else. 😂

[@jamieknox1806]

Correct and we all know who won that one. I do think church is more talented than Mac lethal by miles. I just want to hear tom rip this guy apart to.

[@corybabcock4263]

@@jamieknox1806 Oh Church is by far better than lethal, he has great lyrical ability and i'd like to see a battle to. where tom currently is in music and in life though i just don't see it happening

[@tierneylogan5943]

Why does nova need to go on tour with Tom? Can’t he handle it by himself?

[@ranndomundead9112]

@@tierneylogan5943 Tom cant function without Nova. He might claim to be independent but his entire career is centered around her.

[@johnkendrick6198]

This is the most dumbest one sided beef

[@zionix15432]

its only one sided because tom cant reply back without destroying his own fanbase lol

[@noctislucis5862]

Honestly, what happened to diss tracks just being direct and saying what you mean? I’d take that style any day over this.

[@Anidawehi]

Tom has no style. He's a gimmick and a grifter who flows the same flow every song.

[@CrippledMenace]

@@Anidawehi lmao ok yeah hes never switched up his flow lmao

[@ranndomundead9112]

This is an odd way to say youre too stupid to understand the bars

[@noctislucis5862]

I’m talking about this track and modern disses in general. They aren’t direct anymore. This style uses double and triple entendres, saying one thing that sounds like other things. It gets boring. I just prefer them to say what they mean. No Vaseline is a perfect example of being direct. Also, I really don’t care about Tom.

[@MrPanther1986]

Tom's song no response is exactly what I play against this!

[@bleeddr.pepper664]

Tom hasn't done shows since covid and also Nova has health problems. Love your breakdown Cliff sorry it's your day off but glad you took the time for this video.

[@iDeagles]

“Nova’s health blah blah blah”-🤖 They live in LA. 😂

[@tierneylogan5943]

Nova has put out her own album since Covid was over. How sick is she really? And why’s he need her to hold his hand on a tour? Is he afraid she might go back to her husband if he’s gone? 😂

[@slyfox1971]

I thought she just had asthma. Upchurch does too.

[@iDeagles]

@@slyfox1971 No. She's supposedly allergic to everything and if she catches so much as a dust particle, she's dead. Wait a second. I feel like I've heard this plot somewhere before. It had something to do with a boy and a bubble. 🤔

[@bleeddr.pepper664]

@@tierneylogan5943 Grow up. I was answering a question this is so unnecessary.

[@jamesjolley1649]

That “versed by the hand ghost” line is so dope

[@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing]

Cliff from one reactor to another you are my mentor and I’m glad to be apart of this reaction family even know I’m not as big as you and Knox look up to you guys mad respect ❤

[@2mexpesos]

The thing is RC hasn't Realize Tom Macdonald doesn't LOOK DOWN 😏

[@johnnyburton5527]

It's because of Ryan Upchurch that I started listening to Tom years ago. I have a lot of respect for him but what he's doing is an attention grab. His career leveled off and he's trying to restart it. It almost work but when he dropped his 1st dis, Tom's song hit #1 in the world, a feat Upchurch most likely will never see. Now he's trying again because the hype is done from Tom's song but it just feels like he became Hillbilly Karen at this point. It's sad to see him fall like this but that's life sometimes.

[@Anidawehi]

Tom is being exposed. Lol. Get educated

[@clark2491]

Hahahahahaha Upchurch has almost a billion more views, with a million less subs. Church has multiple gold and platinums. What's tom have? When was the last time your old lady put on your Tom Macdonald playlist , to roll around in the sheets to?😅😅😅

[@jimmcallister4033]

Upchurch doesn't need an attention grab, that's his entire point. He basically retired because he had done everything he wanted. He came back because he saw a poser using hastags, politics and clickbait to make himself popular. That's why Tom switched from anti hip hop to anti woke. Anti hip hop wasn't working. Lifted his entire image and style then has the audacity to criticize others for the exact same thing he is doing.

[@rb4342]

@@Anidawehi Exposed.... hahahaha. Cryin Ryan needs to move on.

[@m.singleton229]

Tom and nova both toured but after covid they haven't toured since. No va has serious respiratory problems.so it wasnt safe for her to tour. they're hoping to tour this summer

[@DevilTX66]

Wow another show of jealousy. Lost little more respect for church. Still think church just upset that Tom and Adam is killing it.

[@PainReigns125]

Youre looking good brother. I hope you lay off of whatever brought you to relapse. You deserve better and i hope circumstance leads you to days such as these. Calm happier and sober. Much love and respect. I will hit you up soon

[@tadwalters467]

They toured b4 the virus bs came about….there are videos of him on stage with the crowd singing along with him…NOVA even mentioned in her song with him while showing pictures of them on the actual tour bus in her videos…then once again, Toms video boob bap start with her saying……we are on tour and you want to shoot a music video right now??? Also, anyone who has a clue…knows that NOVA has bad anxiety and other health issues and she doesn’t like to be around a lot of people. Tom has addressed this topic many times and Adam even talked about how bad Novas anxiety and health problems were…Ryan knows this but is flipping it to fit his narrative. Exactly the same way he did with that reactors video that he purposely edited to try to make that reactor look like a punk…unfortunately for Ryan, the reactor didn’t back down & came back with receipts….yet, he calls Tom a fake? I’m a big fan of both artists and Ryan is sick with his pen and rapping…but calling someone fake while your editing a small reactors video trying to ruin him….is some strait up BS...editing a video to fit a narrative you want while trying to destroy a small reactors channel…is far worse then anything I have heard from Ryan about Tom…I’m my opinion.

[@chasecarron6129]

The reactor had no idea the bs he was talking about and upchurch talked about all the bs dude said in the video so what’s your point?

[@Swearengen1980]

Tom can go on tour without Nova. Are you saying she's an invalid who can't manage for a little while without Tom to wipe her ass? Tom chooses not to tour and that's ok, there's no need to use Nova as a scapegoat.

[@147salsa]

​@@Swearengen1980😂😂😂

[@147salsa]

​@@Swearengen1980 I'm LOVING that toxic a$$ can't keep a relationship with anyone ryan upchurch fans are mocking a loving relationship 😂😂😂 icing on the cake of creeksquad showing their ignorance 😂😂

[@brentgray8355]

People that think all Tom does is political songs obviously haven't bought a CD or all the songs that he doesn't drop on KZbin. Because he has a ton of non political stuff. And he doesn't tour because Novas health problems

[@424stormygirl]

Its called dear slim, the beat was called Stans revenge.

[@Trinity_217]

It really is a shame that so many people are misjudging Tom and getting caught up on the surface items, failing to look deeper into the meaning. Yes, Tom needs to stand out to grab people’s attention, but I personally enjoy his outgoing fun personality. People get caught up on this and miss the bigger picture - I can say on my life that God is using Tom Macdonald to spread His messages of unity and getting His people to open their eyes to the injustices being done by the “system” and powers that be. While Tom also has his own messages and sarcasm added in, there are definitely songs that came directly from God. I saw and felt it the first time I heard Tom. I pray in Jesus’ name for him to stay strong through all the criticism and misunderstanding, and also for everyone else to let go of the hate and instead join the movement to share constructive information with the world to help all mankind through whatever avenue/platform available to us. @TomMacDonaldOfficial

[@TrentHB-GA]

Tom is a satanist and has said so in his music with his own words. I’m a Christian and i can’t get down with that and Nova with the upside down crosses. OPEN YALLS EYES!!!

[@sashajohnson4118]

Perfect timing 💯 😊❤! Switzerland 🇨🇭 in the house 💯

[@Jesse-tn3bl]

5 years ago 3 years ago Tom Was doing concerts And 2 podcasts this week Not AI it took me 2 seconds to figure this out but apparently up Church is the poop scooperIt's is he ice SpiceThe s*** Fart 🤡

[@johncourtney8825]

Did you hear it? Bad.

[@thiswildridecalledlife9194]

Great reaction. I subscribed. You are a critic. It is your Job to critique the rap. Friends or not. Sounded unbiased to me. If Tom releases a response. You will critique his rap. It's entertaining and I learn a lot.

[@shannenmanso1]

By Tom ignoring him… It just makes Upchurch look like a desperate fool! Lol

[@MichaelKlineJr]

You saying he ain't!? LMAO!

[@GCharlesE]

Exactly!

[@JimmyJames562]

Why would Tom respond? Tom isn't real hip hop and his own fans don't care about hip hop.

[@jamieknox1806]

I would love to hear him respond. He did with Mac lethal and that shit was straight fire.

[@chrisshanteau5353]

Same with em n benzino same shit

[@couch.co_op]

Sooo he's mad because Tom is doing things better than him and more successful or whatever and basically invaded Ryan's safe space? ... That's some weak ass Karen type shit...

[@DevicCypher]

Mentally ill, poor wack wanna be rapper upchurch tried his hardest yet again and he failed hard again. Upchurch is worse than nicki Minaj

[@wildhorse6343]

I like both, but if UpChurch thinks Tom dont have a nasty pen as well he is Dead Wrong!!

[@CountryBoy2280]

Your crazy toms garbage

[@Swearengen1980]

Not compared to Upchurch. It's not even close. Church is the best lyricist since Eminem. Tom's lyrics are 95% straight forward. Don't bring up his Mac diss tracks, sure they were entertaining, but there was nothing clever or nasty about them.

[@killerheelscrime]

Toms ghost writer or nova better hurry up church is on his second diss track and they still havnt responded? Its really not that deep i dont understand why people are in their feelings 😂 if you can't appreciate the art you're not a real rap fan

[@regenagarreau9070]

Karma is coming for Tom Macdonald and his name is Ryan Upchurch! 😎

[@wildhorse6343]

@@Swearengen1980 Are you just a big Creek Squad dude and failed to do any research? Tom has too many pen tight songs to count. Plenty that have ZERO to do with politics. Toms diss on Mac lethal was next level. I like Ryan, but I have never heard anything that quality from Ryan? As I said, I am a fan of both, but I have to agree with Stevie Knights take on all of this.

[@michaelhughes2139]

I'm a tom fan and was a Upchurch fan until his last diss . I do understand the diss thing between artists but when he used the N word I was done after that .

[@Keitenrenbu]

If I remember right Nova has a health condition. Which explains the CGI and not traveling or touring. Tom is looking out for what is important. Which is why I don't think he will respond. I personally think Upchurch is just trying to ride his wave.

[@Swearengen1980]

She's not an invalid FFS, he can do shows without her. If he doesn't want to do shows, he can just say it. Hiding behind Nova is weak.

[@Keitenrenbu]

@@Swearengen1980 Not saying she is an Invalid, just saying he chooses to stay with her is a choice. Most choose to tour to make their income. He doesn't need to. once again he chooses family.

[@lovemyplanet24]

Hi Cliff! I don't know who Upchurch is, just know he is dissing Tom. I'm happy you are breaking down the lyrics , because I was having trouble understanding it. I've never been a rap fan, but I love listening to Tom! 😊

[@rb4342]

Tom is awesome. Ryan not so much lately.

[@lovemyplanet24]

I heard Tom and Upchurch did a song together? 😁 Maybe I should listen to it!

[@Anidawehi]

​@@rb4342Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments. Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards. Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch. Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist. Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle. IBlackfeet Nation Creeksquad Holla girl Think about who you support. Tom is a Chomo gimmick rapper.

[@ericbelander2319]

​@@lovemyplanet24upchurch deleted it

[@147salsa]

​@@lovemyplanet24 it's actually a beautiful song called travelers .. Ryan deleted it but there are re-upload online

[@pallew]

I don't care, Upchurch is a dope rapper - Tom Burger King can't respond, skill lacking

[@adellegregory4433]

Vibe reactions is hilarious on this one, he explains alot. Battle rap!!!😅

[@MegsD79]

Tom hasn't done a tour since the pandemic started due to Nova's health. On the My Fans music video is concert footage and when Black Pegasus reacted to it he said that the footage was from an event that BP booked Tom and Nova for. There is footage of Tom and Nova doing shows in several of their music videos. I was all about seeing a good rap battle but we found out last night a really great person that was a member of many of these reaction communities passed away and it kind of puts things in perspective. Life is too short and honestly all it's doing rn is causing issues between both fan bases, between reactors and fans with reactors. I just hope it wraps up soon and that no one is overly affected by everything.

[@terrapinsgurl]

Sorry for your loss and prayers for all that loved them. Prayers for peace found soon for their loss 🙏🏻🙏🏻🕯

[@MegsD79]

@@terrapinsgurl thank you. Unfortunately, not just my loss. She was a very active member of several reaction channel discords so it is probably impacting quiet a few of us. ❤

[@boweber3560]

ill take 10% cliff anyday. been waiting for this reaction lfg

[@Nannas-Porch]

@Cliff Tom's doing TV-podcasts & news shows. He just had an awesome podcast with Roseanne.. And no .. He's but asking them.... They're hitting him up. Dude ain't got time to sweep up Ryan's dirt.

[@Nannas-Porch]

* he's not... (Not *he's but) I hate autocorrect

[@Anidawehi]

Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments. Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards. Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch. Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist. Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle. IBlackfeet Nation Creeksquad Holla girl

[@coyfisher5772]

Alot of people have lost respect for Upchurch.

[@patchesblue155]

Nova has health issues that had prevented Tom from touring but he did tour before I believe. I respect Church's pen game, but I can't think he's doing anything to get clout. Sad, very sad.

[@DancingDD]

One of the reasons that Ryan's upset is... He supposedly was gonna be on the track "White Boyz"w/ Tom&ACal! But for unknown reasons Madchild, did the song! IDK BUT after all the video's of Ryan's ESPECIALLY The one dates 2/13/24 I just watched ...I believe it's also something to do with ACal! Idk but being a #HOG & Creeker - THIS SHIT is aggravating! I think Tom continues to look forward & continues to grow! His timing is SPOT ON!!! I felt bad for Ryan, when he got burned from K. Noel the other dumb chick & his own Mom!! #HOG #TomMacDonald #ACal #Creeker Brodnax too Love them All!

[@fransinyard891]

That was fire! Team Ryan all day every day! Much love from Henderson Ga USA

[@StevenStone-si3vt]

Creek squad. Willa coochee GA

[@CasualSharts]

​@@StevenStone-si3vt hehe... Coochee

[@StevenStone-si3vt]

@@CasualSharts have you ever heard of such a place?

[@CasualSharts]

@StevenStone-si3vt not sure if I've heard that one before but there are plenty small towns with some funky names out there

[@fransinyard891]

@@CasualSharts Henderson is bout 45 mins below Macon. Very very small town!

[@toddtucker2169]

I have never heard Tom McDonald or Upchurch before, but man o man, he torched that man...damn...

[@ikemen1]

The reason Tom and Nova haven't been touring is because of Nova health problem.. Tom said they will try some tours this summer and hope it all goes will... They have tour in many countries before C9...

[@Swearengen1980]

Odd that the only evidence of overseas tours by Tom is a single lyric in a song. He didn't have a single hit until Dear Rappers in 2018. He said then he was flat ass broke and Nova was about to leave him....and you expect us to believe he was doing tours overseas before he even had a single hit with no money? He did a few shows in the US in 2018 and then throughout 2019. That's it as far as I can find on any online source.

[@147salsa]

​@@Swearengen1980 I'm blown away by how little yall understand about the music world 😂😂😂😂

[@TheThriftyVeteran]

​@@147salsaquite the rebuttal

[@jdl619]

@@Swearengen1980 you think online can tell you the truth that's really 😂. People existed before the Internet & the Internet doesn't work the same for all countries. Some countries you do shows in won't even let you film your show. You sound like a stupid person when it comes to this.

[@jasonjacobelli5691]

Tom hasn't toured since the vid hit cause of Novas health issues he cares more about her then touring i get it and respect it loved ones come first

[@aviator2252]

you remember way back when watching church burying his records, and digging up the grave and pulling out gold and platinum records...

[@beckyleavitt7808]

Church says he is bigger than Tom. Why's he diss'n down then? Tom trolls for a reason. You know that Cliff.

[@CharlesMarkcum-mb7kl]

Agree fully

[@TheBibleIsaWeirdThing]

All im saying is, I knew of Tom MacDonald way beofre then this guy. So Tom is probably bigger. But with that being said Tom is absolutely garbage. Lmao. From what i heard of this guy (this song only) he's definitely better than tom. 😂😂😂😂

[@Rambo-Donkey]

Underground vs new age clout chase.. it's not hard..

[@BoundlessVlogs07]

Nah Church actually gonna end up the Nick Cannon in this non-existent beef 😂 Tom ain't ever gonna respond to shit

[@taofallenstar6419]

Tom has toured several times including with Falling in Reverse and Crown the Empire (metal bands). Reactor Black Pegasus, who is also an event producer or promoter, says he has personally booked shows for Tom in Colorado.

[@jayprichard2024]

When has tom done country rap? He did a song with john rich and that's it. Ryan is unhinged bro.

[@videotalktalk]

No, he's digging. He knows that if he goes after someone who gets crazy attention, he can put himself in the spotlight,. Watch what happens with the new album though. You'll get a lot of "I like a few of the tracks". Which honestly, that means its a shyte album. He isnt unhinged, he wants more for doing less...And dissing Tom will get him more for less.

[@bama25625]

Please do a blue gene 2 review!!! We need some bar breakdowns. Especially on Whatts!!!!

[@kto_66]

Be careful Cliff what you say he went after "FTB Reacts" for 10 minutes and lied about his reaction.

[@iowahooch]

Going after Knox Hill too

[@Diamondz572]

That's why these reaction channels tow the line with Ryan. Like this was that great lol. But thats typical church, obsess over something he took out of context & try to destroy someone's career. Petty queen.

[@jolandafrijlink6103]

​@@iowahoochwhat?...why?

[@libertykitten003]

@@jolandafrijlink6103 Probably because in Knox's reaction to diss #1, he made his feelings very clear about his disapproval of cuckchurch using the N word. And I completely agree! There was no need for it! Hell, even Stevie Knight said the same thing in his reaction to it!

[@jolandafrijlink6103]

@@libertykitten003 yes i saw that. Crypt had the same reaction. The whole n-word thing is a trap i say 😧😶.

[@redbonegaston2010]

Cliff, I have a TON of respect for you as a reactor. I’ve been paying attention to the reactors that completely ignored this lyrical gym. Very few with a nice following reacted to it.

[@Protop90]

Tom MacDonald - No response "I Google the net worth of rappers hating and I don't respond" So he might not put any time on Upchurch diss. 🤔🤨

[@KY_HollerBoy]

Yall can say all you want but multiple Upchurch concerts on his 24' tour are almost sold out 🧐

[@ghostfacedkilla2849]

Dude is just wasting his time. Tom won't see it, even if he does he sure as shit not replying.

[@redbonegaston2010]

If he won’t see it, why did ACAL’s snake a$$ drive through a snowstorm to try to prevent these tracks from surfacing. Aren’t they besties?

[@HeavensRedemption]

​@@redbonegaston2010 ......you've got a very sad life.

[@redbonegaston2010]

@@HeavensRedemption Dude, this was so 13 days ago..😂😂😂

[@TananJess]

Staying neutral on something that seems like it just came outta f*ckin nowhere.

[@ikemen1]

Tom does all music genres, Tom Helps all kinds of people. Tom has people in all age groups listening to him. From 5-80 and even people who never listen to Rap... Church is a one trick phony... I was just starting to listening to Church, well, now he's dead to me.... Hope he get clean whatever he's on......Tom is Crazy if he responded... Tom! Remember your songs "Don't Look Down" and "No Response"

[@tyannjarvis8762]

One trick pony .. 🤣.your tripping. I respect if you don't like Upchurch but to say he's a one trick pony is crazy!

[@baba.to.3689]

Upchurch feeling attention deprived.....hysterical he be needing McDonald to get him some.....Bravo Tom for ignoring his bs and not giving him a millisecond of attention.

[@philipchesser8889]

I don't think Adam would have done 2 albums with tom if he was a pos.

[@tierneylogan5943]

I heard Adam actually told church some stuff about Tom after he worked with him and that’s where some of this is coming from.

[@markaustin5912]

@@tierneylogan5943 You heard from who?

[@ranndomundead9112]

@@tierneylogan5943 Dont need to be a brain surgeon to realize theres something off about a Canadian willingly living in California pretending to be a die hard conservative with a lefty as fuck girlfriend and both of them got luciferian tattoos and rap about satan. The amount of people who cant see through the fake shit is unreal, even when its literally right in front of your face.

[@michelethompson3089]

@@tierneylogan5943So now you’re calling Adam Calhoun fake because he did a second album with him, so…..

[@tierneylogan5943]

@@michelethompson3089 Maybe he figured out something about Tom over the course of both albums? Have to admit i lost some respect for him for working with tom.

[@kodevicious]

I got tickets for 2 tom macdonald shows at the beginning of covid but he had to cancel both the shows....one was out of his control cause he was going to tour with Falling In Reverse and one of the members of FIR ended their life so the tour had to be canceled. And Tom's other tour after that at the begining of covid was canceled by the united states shutting down all events. And if you're a real fan of Tom then you know about Nova's health conditions...which is why he hasn't toured since. But yes he's done lots of tours in the past.

[@michaelthomas229]

😂 ok of course

[@aggiev8561]

Exactly, facts. Tom has toured and has a legit reason to not be touring now. All of this is an inaccurate word salad

[@CrippledMenace]

@@michaelthomas229 an upchurch fan wouldnt recognize a healthy relationship its fine

[@claranielsen3382]

100% Ryan doesn't research very well, does he.

[@CrippledMenace]

@@claranielsen3382 much like a certain mac lethal 😂

[@ginovernedoGiuseppe]

Upchurch is really pathetic he needs viewers more than I thought this really makes no sense and why because he is angry that Tom made two albums with Adam and not with him seriously wow