Violent Conduct and Post-Incident Management

[@SamuelPearlman]

Everyone is commenting "definitely red" - I don't think that's the main point of the video, it's about how to manage the game when something unexpected like this happens. Thanks for the breakdown!

[@refereeadventures391]

@@SamuelPearlman thanks! This is one of our young up and comers who has been very receptive to feedback and is constantly improving and striving to improve. No one gets it right the first time. Great job recognizing it was a big deal and getting to the spot. The additional management was secondary. He confirmed the face piece with the AR and acted accordingly. He's going to be great. But to your point the breakdown here is critical. If anyone has an issue understanding an elbow to the face as a red card we have much bigger problems! If you want, however, to get your games to the next level, all the details matter. Positioning to see, movement, confidence, rules knowledge, and management are what matter. It's the difference between handling this right or handling it wrong/missing it altogether and having a bloodbath.

[@andrewkoehler2273]

Definitely a red. Either it's an intentional blow to the head, or the guy needs to learn how to not tackle like that. There's no reason his elbow needs to be that high, which makes it seem intentional. And an elbow to the head like that can do as much damage as a punch, if not more. At the very least its a reckless tackle and deserves a red. If you can get a red for a high boot, why not a high elbow?

[@refereeadventures391]

@@andrewkoehler2273 it's 100% red for violent conduct. It's excessive force, elbow to face, not a soccer play, creates a serious risk to the opponent, etc. This MUST be red! The challenge to the foot is probably only reckless on its own. It's not well timed, he is challenging for the ball, contact is between feet,, it disregards the opponent's safety, and it's a lunge. Quick clarifier: reckless is yellow. Referee cannot issue red for reckless. Must be excessive force/SFP for a challenge to get to red From IFAB definition (which I believe NFHS uses or something similar): Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off

[@pictureofmyjunk2279]

Call was correct. Management was decent not the best. If you are going to keep red players away may not be the best idea to walk past the injured player in leading the red away. As well would probably been best to show the red immediately to diffuse and mass confrontation or any retaliation from the white.

[@refereeadventures391]

I think the post-incident piece is critical. Referee confirmed it was to the face with the AR b/c his attention was caught by the foot initially. But making sure nothing pops off after is really important and they got lucky here. Good learning opportunities in this video!

[@thomas_delaney]

Not a red. games gone.

[@refereeadventures391]

@@thomas_delaney yes! If elbow first lunges are okay, the hand won't last long!

[@SamuelPearlman]

Which part doesn't rise to the level of a send-off for you? Leading with the elbow to the face was only careless or reckless for you?