“Violently shaking, thrashing:” Witness details first ever nitrogen gas execution

[@Eaglekeeper1958]

You can’t botch a firing squad.

[@arlenesee392]

Idaho reinstated the firing squad!

[@I_S_Chew]

You also can’t botch a massive od of Fentanyl

[@betty-joymoreau4363]

True

[@AubergineJacket]

Tell that to Wenceslao Moguel. 😉

[@notaperson9831]

@@I_S_Chewyou can absolutely botch that. Don’t forget that many prisoners are addicts, with an increased opiate tolerance.

[@jsmcguireIII]

You do have to wonder if the woman he stabbed to death had a similar physical response.

[@jacquiestorm4342]

Yes, I'm sure he was very worried about being "humane" while he took her life.

[@robfarrell9104]

I’m sure she was more vocal. Stabbings are brutal.

[@woodstream6137]

On the other hand over 195 death row inmates have been exonerated not counting the ones that doj refuses to review. God knows how many innocents have been executed.

[@eugenedebs9547]

I wonder what the murdered women's husband (the minister) was thinking when he hired the kid to rub her out.

[@codzilla9802]

@@jacquiestorm4342 The absolute bare minimum I could expect out of my government is that they would operate with more humanity than a convicted murderer.

[@1dantown]

I wonder if his victim was uncomfortable, upon her death , 36 years ago.

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

Now that is an uncomfortable truth no one ever thinks about. It's just about the convict and his rights.

[@Andrés-f6l3l]

I think most people do think about the victim but the news doesn't want to talk about that straight on. The problem is that now this is going to be used by murderers. It's unusual and there is a reason not to use new means of punishment.

[@theo9952]

36 years ago, that's right. And although he committed a terrible crime, I wonder why 36 years in the solitary confinement of the death row plus a life sentence after that (instead of execution) would not be punishment enough. I think the US has some very inhuman laws which i find very unusual for a free world country.

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

@@theo9952 let me give a prime example. South Africa had one of the lowest murder rates until 1994. Abolished the death penalty, our murder rate is one of the highest in the world, it's worse than in some war zones. 27 000 murders over the period April 22 to March 23.

[@theo9952]

@@reinhardtrossouw1879 This about the apartheid regime in South Africa : The Truth and Reconciliation Commission found that there were 21,000 deaths from political violence, with 7,000 deaths between 1948 and 1989, and 14,000 deaths and 22,000 injuries in the transition period between 1990 and 1994. Enough said, I think.

[@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh]

*He murdered a woman for money. He was sentenced to death 30 years ago.*. *I'm sure his victim went through worse, at least he knew why he was dying.*

[@justkeepingitreal2024]

Don't we all?

[@bobsch-gd6ze]

Lee, could you please tell us how peaceful his victim went ?

[@lIIlllIIIl]

since when do we execute people for murdering a single person. if that was the chase america would have more executions than china. did his victim get turtured 35 years? Or did his live sentece which was a democratic vote get overuled by a dictator by a single judge?

[@bobsch-gd6ze]

Soooo are you one of those who has murdered and not gotten caught yet ?@@lIIlllIIIl

[@Rebellpanzer]

“ I’ve never seen such a violent execution “……….try looking at some crime scene photos

[@woodstream6137]

You want the govt to be as merciless as murderers. Better hope you never accidentally get involved in something

[@ManicPrincess]

I'm sure the man that's been to 5 actual executions has seen crime scene photos. He's talking about actually witnessed the death

[@Huzzunga]

@@woodstream6137sure thing, accidentally involved

[@dan_rtype]

He's witnessed 5 executions, you've just looked at photos. Sit down and shut up.

[@colematuschka9252]

@@woodstream6137 His statement doesn't have any feelings one way or the other about the murder though, nor is it edited. He is simply comparing what someone said to his own experiences of seeing photos from crime scenes. With no opinion about the process or method or anything else being offered, I'm not sure where your statement is coming from that implies that he wants what you say you believe he does want to be true. Am I missing something?

[@geraldmiller5260]

Having worked in corrections, the worst punishment is a lifetime in prison.

[@alberta1st]

Yes he done 36 yrs then was ended thats penitence

[@fido139]

Yeah, then we keep building bigger prisons, add more guards and manpower, and we use tax payer money to keep them alive, right? Makes sense to me. 🙄

[@Wicky173]

Unless of course, the prison is a luxury apartment and you are able to get ferried around town at will!

[@Lexi_gem]

They still don’t want to die they have the nerve but didn’t care about their victims and someone mom was killed because a man got over zealous thinking he could get another woman and insurance and live peacefully knowing he had some part in another humans untimely suffering and then he kills himself? I don’t care about this guy if a person could choose how she died to how he died they would choose how he died

[@XeriphaMae]

…and his victim probably went through far worse, so what’s the problem here?

[@halo9lady]

That’s what I’ve been thinking. Why are worried arhat someone sentenced to death for the crimes committed are treating humanely and goes peacefully?

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

Well, when do two wrongs make a right?

[@dianaallen5700]

Last night​@@PhilAndersonOutside

[@CantHandleThisCanYa]

@@PhilAndersonOutside you are incorrectly assuming that the DP for people like this guy is wrong.

[@telebubba5527]

@@CantHandleThisCanYa Nope, he is correctly assuming that. After 36 years of prison, this has no meaning for anybody. It's just morbide cruelty.

[@JoshQ-mc4bb]

Why does the media want us to feel bad for him

[@WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness]

Because we’re supposed to be more humane than the Taliban, and we have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. But some right wingers want us to become another Taliban ruled country.

[@beaterstang0898]

Because that’s the typical liberal media line. The criminals have more rights than the victims. I mean look at the other reply to your comment. If you seek justice against a murderer, that somehow makes you “the taliban” This dude signed his own death warrant when he committed the crime.

[@chick-fil-agal2264]

Really, why?

[@PsychoKat90]

​@@beaterstang0898the justice system sentenced him with death, not torture.

[@musicman7297]

The MSM backs the murdering of unborn babies.... but not the execution of a murderer. STRANGE

[@Steve-u5g]

Shame on the media for sympathizing with a killer. Shame on you.

[@johnsmith7140]

Seriously

[@davidgibb6983]

Bad things happen to bad people!

[@ninjatavv]

bad things happen to everyone

[@grizzlybear4]

Uhh, no.

[@morbidmanmusic]

bad people do bad things to bad people too.

[@ethanbolen4425]

but the state should be civil about it not barbaric

[@curious9513]

@@morbidmanmusicgood

[@TallMichelleWithTheLongHair]

What did his victim experience when he killed them?

[@RewardsMember]

Cannot both deaths be tragic? Or are you so self righteous that you’ve deluded yourself into thinking you have unflawed judgement?

[@Mike_Honcho_8653]

MSNPC cares more about the criminals

[@Mike_Honcho_8653]

MSNPC, like most $hitLibs, only care about the criminal.

[@resourcedragon]

She didn't spend 28 years incarcerated, being told she was going to be killed. He didn't make two separate attempts on her life. I'm not condoning what he did, it was vile but, frankly, what the state did to him was a great deal worse.

[@genxpilot69]

​@@resourcedragon🤣

[@susangockowski5428]

I wonder how the 3 innocent people he murdered/shot to death, died? Do you think their death was merciful? Keep things in perspective 🙄

[@brianwilliams766]

The goal is to insure we do not become the monsters we are putting down.

[@wolfgangBuonarotti]

@@brianwilliams766 you wanna pay taxes to feed somebody who killed your mother?

[@codzilla9802]

If the perspective is that the state committed an act of cruelty on some level similar to a convicted murderer, I would just argue this line of reasoning is not the moral slam dunk you seem to think it is.

[@duffer2307]

yes it what Jesus would have done. @@wolfgangBuonarotti

[@chuckyoneill9029]

​@@wolfgangBuonarottiNOPE

[@AnythingJW]

it's 30 years over due

[@verucasalt2391]

Hmmmm, did the people he murdered drift off into a sweet sleep, or did they thrash, fight during their terrifying murders? Whatever this guy went through, it pales in comparison to what his victim experienced. I don’t feel badly for this guy, not one iota.

[@morbidmanmusic]

that is a dangerous perspective to have for all sorts of reasons.

[@boffo63]

That's the problem with a lot of Americans. They think the Constitution doesn't apply to them.

[@humanoidmale7567]

The morbid man talks of dangerous perspectives in reference to a murderer suffering near the level of his victims. You cant make this stuff up. ​@@morbidmanmusic

[@ILJzzFan]

@@morbidmanmusic why is that dangerous?

[@pizzaneckpillow]

​@@ILJzzFan Because we're supposed to be more civilized than our Babylonian predecessors 3800 years ago who came up with "an eye for an eye." Inhumanity doesn't give permission for more inhumanity. With that barbaric perspective, bombing the spouses and children of US drone operators who bombed civilians in Iraq would be justified. Demanding the genocide of 6 million Germans following the Holocaust would be considered reciprocal justice. Breaking the bones of someone who injured who broke yours in a car accident could be a court-ordered punishment. Justice serves a higher purpose than vengeance and it's disgusting that people think otherwise.

[@richardbarton5079]

Sorry not sorry....the victim didn't get that consideration

[@MLeibs]

RIP Elizabeth Sennett 🪦 Murdered 1988

[@donwade9905]

Wonder if it was anywhere as terrifying as the victim endured?

[@Laura-we8wl]

Ummm tbh not to downplay what he did - after serving his sentence and torture of a botched execution - I think there’s way worse crimes (torture, murder and child murderers) - that have got away with cushy sentences. Way way worse than this

[@johnsmith7140]

Doubtful

[@Mike_Honcho_8653]

Of course MSNPC cares more about the murderers than the victims.

[@ronaldking1054]

You are claiming that you have the right to do whatever you please as long as you believe it to be justified? Wonder if that is any different than the thought process of the person being executed.

[@Lenny_Hondo]

Elizabeth Sennett

[@dougmorris5625]

Too easy. What did the lady he murdered go through?

[@WCfanboy]

Not relevant; you want the government to sink to the same level as a killer?

[@Rita-yw2tn]

I feel certain that the victim was petrified and begging for her life and he had no sympathy for her . I feel no sympathy for him whatsoever !

[@csicrawlspace]

No one is or ever will talk about the emotions and thoughts and sheer terror his victim experienced…

[@ethanjennings6442]

You can Google him, his victim got justice in court and was talked about as much as most other murders. But that's not what this particular story is about. It's about if we're ok with the state being able to torture individuals before executing them. I don't think it's a good thing to have that power. The government should be dispassionate and focused on protecting the public, giving a voice to the victims, but not getting revenge.

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

This is an incredibly good point, except for it being something you made up in your mind as a post-hoc rationalization.

[@CantHandleThisCanYa]

⁠@@ethanjennings6442 the bureaucracy of the government is perfectly dispassionate, courts are impartial, and a jury of 12 renders a verdict and a sentence up to and including the DP. However, we should change the law to only allow the DP from an actual 12 member jury, not a judge.

[@nova396]

​@@ethanjennings6442 Google him??? That means what he said isn't true? Thanks for proving what he said was true. Self ownage.

[@nova396]

​@@hrodebertcoad9848It isn't made up.

[@johneubank237]

Let’s also talk about the individual that he killed, and the suffering of that individual and the suffering of the family. Let’s make this report fair and balanced on both sides.

[@breezeh1127]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@c-qc-q2021]

So, torture is justified?

[@nahfrthorsthegoat]

Your mom raised a little piece of garbage didn't she?

[@leejouglard8602]

​@@c-qc-q2021 justified here

[@charliepiland3285]

This story is NOT about the crimes of the Condemned! It about the process of the State to administer capital punishment...full stop!!!

[@Max_Krypto]

That women he killed didnt get mercy nor did he care what she went through. Who cares how the prisoner was executed

[@jettstream2886]

Exactly why America is so backward

[@CenturyHomeProject]

he stabbed a woman to death. Where were his thoughts of humanity going through his mind as he was taking her life?

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

So what you're saying is that you think what he did was okay?

[@morbidmanmusic]

does that make it right for us to become the animals? Is that what u want? I promise that is a NO

[@CenturyHomeProject]

@@hrodebertcoad9848 not at all. But if you look and see another person asked pretty much the same question. My response to you is the same to him. I’m just not a fan of death.

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

@@CenturyHomeProject Except for his death, right?

[@CenturyHomeProject]

@@hrodebertcoad9848 can you read?

[@jimporter3347]

You people are nuts... This man has been awaiting the sentence for 30 years for a contract killing....How peaceful was the murder ??????

[@TheBohemianGranny]

You aren’t God anymore than he was

[@scottmartin5093]

​@@TheBohemianGranny what does God have to do with it

[@arepadetrigo]

Neither are you. @@TheBohemianGranny

[@Martin-pb7ts]

I understand what you're saying but how we treat people as a society sets our trajectory into the future. If you have no mercy for him, how does that make you different from him?

[@marcthomas4488]

@jimporter3347 indeed. The pathological altruism

[@tommyhorne1039]

Wonder if the victims died non violently?🤔

[@jrdubois1122771]

Oh, man....he suffered? Thats awful. I guess he shouldnt have killed anyone then.

[@asingc]

I don't understand how is this an issue. How about don't be a murderer the first place?

[@johnconnor1847]

MSDNC is more concerned about this man than they are about the family and the victim.

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

And you know this how? Oh, right, you don't. You're just using whataboutism to avoid actually engaging with the subject of humane behavior.

[@andrewb431]

Imagine trying to convince people to feel bad for the murderer.

[@georges4266]

What is there to imagine, it happens every day now.

[@cassandrahuskey8866]

No!!

[@benitosalazar3749]

That is today's media. Corrupt and immoral to their rotten core.

[@PearlTheSpinster]

I dont think they are doing that... If they want to torture ppl to death ok cool but admit that and stop trying to gaslight folks

[@maximilianemusterfrau1265]

Imagine, this is still a human being!

[@rrip1]

May his victim rest in peace.

[@jejejei274]

These people should not get a choice on how they die their victims didn't 😢

[@steppenwolf3252]

Life in prison would be more cruel (if that's your goal).

[@CatherineDellaca]

100% justice was carried out. His victim live in pain for about 3 hours before she died.

[@reinemarais4392]

I grasp that some behaviour in society is completely unacceptable and that the rest of society should not be accountable financially for enabling that behaviour whether incarcerated or not. That does not mean that we have to be brutal about curtailing that behaviour. I had a much-loved dog. She lived to be twenty years old in human years which is quite a feat. Her legs started to cave. I could see in her an embarrassment and sort of a shame that she could no longer support her body to go out to pee or poo. I had to let her go for both her dignity and mine. I was with her when she left this world. It was calm and peaceful. She simply went limp, and she was gone. The point of this long text is that if veterinarians have worked out dignified euthanasia then why can we not extend the same care to people for reasons we don't understand cannot be part of a disciplined society? We do not have to sink to the level of a perpetrator to end the perpetration of agony.

[@SaintD382]

It seems ironic that we are more humane to animals than we are to humans -- until you remember that humans are actually much more evil than animals. Despite their having no sense of morality, animals are morally superior beings to humans. I can't think of a single "evil" animal -- but all I have to do is look around to see many, many evil human beings. So whenever I hear arguments like yours -- "if we can do it for animals, why not humans?" -- my first thought is that you're elevating humans to the same moral level as animals -- which completely ignores the vastly disproportionate evil of humanity.

[@IvyANguyen]

Your final sentence has me wondering. Who decides the conditions that make sense for human euthanasia? I think allowing it opens a dangerous door we as a society will have trouble putting back because society may eventually decide that conditions allowing euthanasia should be expanded to include, for instance very poor/homeless people, disabled people, or just people who run out of funds to pay for nursing home care in their elder years. I'm an only-child who is still single at 38, with no kids, and not many relatives who are younger than I am. I fear a future society, say around 2060 or so, will decide I am not worth enough to keep around on Earth due to my disabilities costing society more than I make working.

[@db5823]

@@SaintD382 When stupid is evil, you do a good job of showing us that. Your response completely ignores the point and falls into pathetic rationalizing and mental contortions.

[@GeorgeWHaydukeIII6396]

I to, have had to let cherished pets go in that way. I wondered how veterinary doctors can seem to perform this procedure in a humane way.

[@COND3N4Dos]

Completely nonsense you compare a dog with a monster!! “Inside the house, Elizabeth was ambushed, violently punched, beaten, and bludgeoned, and stabbed over and over again with the six-inch survival knife that Smith and Parker had brought with them.”

[@jus10lewissr]

Call it inhumane, call it violent, call it anything you want, but far worse can be said of what his victim went through when she lost her life. I don't lack empathy, nor did I want this man to suffer, but when comparing the death of his victim to his own death, he clearly got the better option -- not that she was voluntarily given one at all.

[@yvonnemarie57]

Justice

[@goUkraine]

Torture is not justice, no matter if you think it is or not. We are not the Taliban--well at least SOME of us are not the Taliban unlike yourself.

[@kenofken9458]

Cowardice.

[@yvonnemarie57]

@@goUkraine justice

[@jorgeandrade20]

@@goUkraine LOL, nice handle.

[@jorgeandrade20]

@@kenofken9458 You're definitely a ken.

[@ScottGrammer]

Imagine the 193 people on death row (since 1973) who were exonerated because they were not guilty. Now imagine the ones who were not guilty, and not exonerated.

[@Mike_Honcho_8653]

Imagine the victims and family members of the ones that were guilty.

[@ScottGrammer]

That doesn't really address my point, does it?

[@pellestorck3776]

​@@Mike_Honcho_8653 The victims of wrongful executions aren't victims? Imagine being locked up for years waiting to be killed knowing you're innocent. Or someone close to you going through that. It's just inhumane and below us as humans.

[@Luckyrider1958]

193 out of ....

[@resourcedragon]

@@Luckyrider1958: As I understand it, about 5% of people on death row are innocent (based on data from things like "the innocence project" I've heard much high figures for Florida. Those who are executed are disproportionately poor and/or black. As an outsider (Australian) looking in at the US, your "justice" system appears to be all over the shop, some people commit truly horrendous crimes and end up with lenient sentences, others do something bad but not really next level and they end up being tortured to death or sentenced to hundreds of years.

[@Crackshot729]

Agonal breathing is reflexive, and happens even after clinical death. I wonder if his victims suffered... but for some, the perpetrator is the only one with rights.

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

Are you people only able to argue with a strawman? Really? In what world is the perpetrator having more rights? Stop living in pure fantasy. It's unhealthy for your mental state.

[@TheBohemianGranny]

@@hrodebertcoad9848it’s the crack

[@tothelighthouse9843]

The state of Alabama & all its citizens are now the perpetrators. They made their victim enduring 15 minutes of agonizing torture before they killed him. All you commenters congratulating yourselves for having no more decency or humanity than the convicted murderer.

[@CantHandleThisCanYa]

@@hrodebertcoad9848in a world where the perpetrator gets to live while the victim does not. That's the world where the perpetrators have more rights.

[@hrodebertcoad9848]

@@CantHandleThisCanYa The victim dying has nothing to do with them having or not having rights, though. Your statement is nonsense.

[@harukoharuhara18]

What its so weird is that they make it into a show with curtains and all.

[@markrobinowitz8473]

It's a modern version of the Roman Empire.

[@jvcyt298]

@@markrobinowitz8473; Yes, it's spectacle, bread, and circuses.

[@nazur72]

The curtains aren't really the worst of it it's the guy walking down the aisle with refreshments yelling "Peanuts!" "Peanuts!"..

[@elvenkind6072]

@@nazur72 HAHAHA!

[@elvenkind6072]

It's quite macabre. This whole report gave me a bad taste in the mouth and leaving me feeling sick.

[@jejejei274]

Yeah what about their victims

[@larrydixon-vi7ld]

Whoever is speaking is definitely a lefty

[@outermarker5801]

Actually exhibits the compassion that righties pound bibles and claim to possess but don't?

[@jorgeandrade20]

@@outermarker5801 Where's his compassion towards the victim and her family? Are theynot deserving? Your hipocrisy shows you're on the same boat as him.

[@outermarker5801]

​@@jorgeandrade20 Logically fallacious argument, a trite one at that.

[@jorgeandrade20]

@@outermarker5801 Really? Explain to me then, where is the error in logic to care about the victim or their family? Your argument is trite.

[@outermarker5801]

@@jorgeandrade20 I have nothing to explain, you're the one with the non sequitur of a claim against the guy in the video. Prove it.

[@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh]

*He murdered someone for money. He lived over 30 years longer than the woman he murdered. His last words were non-apologetic victim-playing. Sorry, but I’m not concerned.*

[@major_west]

Far to much sympathy is being given to a murderer who had no sympathy for the woman he killed.

[@jorgeandrade20]

Right! Not even at the final moment when he could have at least apologized, and to read some of the comments here, this comment section is rotten.

[@macforme]

Wait... WHAT? The convict is asked if he/she opts in for Nitrogen gas??? Correct me if I am wrong but ....I'm pretty sure they person they murdered didn't get any choices.

[@ralphm6901]

The way I heard it, they tried lethal injection in 2022, but couldn't raise a vein to inject into. Some point later the convict suggested nitrogen. If that results in too violent a death, maybe the convict could be moved to a cell with a door for his final week, then some time during the night fill the room with carbon monoxide? Supposedly monoxide poisoning is a peaceful way to go.

[@COND3N4Dos]

“Inside the house, Elizabeth was ambushed, violently punched, beaten, and bludgeoned, and stabbed over and over again with the six-inch survival knife that Smith and Parker had brought with them.”Wondering if she shakes while being attacked by this monster!! What a shame for this people who stand by the criminal, instead of the victim! RIP Elizabeth!

[@jorgeandrade20]

It's beyond mind-blowing at this point!

[@donsaze6138]

So you're saying it was a success.

[@jnf1270]

I'm opposed to the death penalty but, maybe don't commit murder? Especially in a state like Alabama?

[@ixamraxi]

It was my understanding that nitrogen doesn't result in the buildup of co2, so there isn't a carbonic acid response in the body, which makes me wonder if the thrashing and shaking was theatrics, or perhaps a fear response, rather than it being a biological response.

[@yvonnemarie57]

Yep

[@aphrodittee3790]

🤨 Who’s to say it really Nitrogen?! …probably something else was used! Alabama is known for their prison cover up and inmate deaths!

[@Bigones111]

Apparently he was trying to hold his breath the entire time.

[@tommackay7433]

Oh, is that so, doctor?

[@yvonnemarie57]

@@tommackay7433 are YOU a doctor?

[@jeaninesilva5055]

As they say...2 wrongs do not make a right...this is not justice..rotting in a jail cell for the rest of your life is justice.. living among other prisoners for the rest of your life is justice..this is just making the state a murderer.

[@jamiescot3658]

Wrong, nobody rots in prison. Most prisoners live a very leisurely life. Meals, commissary, recreation daily, paying jobs, TV, visits. Not stressful as people assume.

[@jorgeandrade20]

"rotting in a jail cell for the rest of your life is justice", that's 2 life sentences, one for them there and the other for us paying for it. What a genius you are!

[@ForestSageStyles]

Why does this guy attend executions?

[@PinkSoldier2009]

I wonder if he was thinking of the woman he murdered while he lay there dying.

[@pamelatoombs4150]

Another question i have for his wife. Why would you wanna watch that? Bad enough thinking about his heinous crime.

[@tannerbarnett3660]

She had been paying life insurance on him and now she wasn't going to get it that's why she was crying

[@ganrimmonim]

I'm guessing so that he could see her and know that she was as near as she could be to him.

[@SledDog5678]

CLOSURE!

[@kristenmarie9248]

​@@SledDog5678 More like PTSD, and trauma for her. Loyalty should have boundaries. He's gone, but now she's most likely traumatized by HIS KARMA.

[@wynnyekey5316]

His victims, I'm sure, didn't live to suffer PTSD.

[@resourcedragon]

Victim, singular. The "justice" system is not supposed to torture people.

[@MrTraceuser]

what about the person he murdered? What do these witnesses want a pink birthday cake exit?

[@mother_of_doxies]

I’m sure the woman he murdered died peacefully, right? Or does anyone care about her, or her family?

[@kellymcclendon6601]

What would the ceo of msnbc want to happen to the killer if she was murdered?

[@miken7629]

Survive 3 weeks without food, 3 days without water, 3 minutes without air

[@karimamin2]

So basically he experienced what his victim experienced.

[@donprosek5364]

Oh well, I bet he did not get his victim to agree to being killed.

[@Jahdoh]

You're absolutely correct. Him murdering that innocent women in cold blood was inhumane and, a violent execution.

[@merriebrown4089]

I have mixed feelings about the death penalty ... and I certainly would not be able to implement the man's death. However, does ANYONE consider the suffering the murdered woman went through as they discuss this?

[@encouragevideo]

Why should we care what it was like for him to die. He did not care about how his victim suffered when they died.

[@sukaynaalyraza3973]

But this is so cruel. He already cut 35 years in jail .

[@macforme]

I've never understood, when they were giving lethal injections, why they used brand new needles. ... it's like... the person isn't going to catch anything. 🤔

[@kevinpedz]

Because in the event that the warden calls last second with a stay after they already placed the needles in him, he would be at risk for infection or disease. If they get a stay because of new evidence and then found innocent, that is a very serious lawsuit coming.

[@BowserSmb-t2k]

Needles dont cost much

[@macforme]

@@BowserSmb-t2k I wouldn't know that.

[@macforme]

@@BowserSmb-t2k It was more sarcasm than a question anyway

[@valveman12]

This is absolutely insane!

[@ronnie_5150]

Insane? What? His execution, or the murder of the woman he stabbed to death for $1000?

[@johnsmith7140]

How do you figure?

[@telebubba5527]

@@johnsmith7140 Because the waited 35 years to carry this out. There are people who get far less for more serious crimes.

[@johnsmith7140]

@telebubba5527 What crimes do you consider to be more serious than murder?

[@taristazin2073]

@@carolbabb7875 One of the reasons we have so much crime in this country today is because people don't fear the consequences of their bad actions. Once people become TERRIFIED of having to pay for the consequences of their decisions, we will see a significant drop in crime. Wouldn't you say that reducing ALL crime would be best for our humanity you claim to be so concerned about? The countries with the lowest crime are those with the most severe penalties for breaking the law. It's a pretty simple equation.

[@hollyallen307]

It isn't all about the person being executed- it also affects the people administering & viewing the process. It is evil.

[@AndreaLenoig]

Murder is evil!

[@resourcedragon]

@@AndreaLenoig: And execution is murder.

[@nerd3d-com]

@@resourcedragon "An eye for an eye." Actually, it's called justice. It's something that the US has an extreme shortage of.

[@samuraichicken9248]

​@@nerd3d-comEye for an eye is not a legal precedent.

[@goodtravels2000]

@@samuraichicken9248Actually it is what the death penalty is based on, so it is legal precedent.😊

[@temotu518]

Violently shaking, thrashing...something the victim can never experience...

[@queenvrook]

Just a note. Death by nitrogen gas is something that has happened to many industrial workers, who sometimes have to weld in a nitrogen environment because of the risk of starting a fire. They don't thrash, cry out, shake, or anything; they just drop to the ground. This kind of welding is dangerous because people who see it and rush in to rescue the collapsed workers will themselves black out without warning. Our bodies have ways to detect whether air is going in and out, and to detect whether carbon dioxide is leaving, but we have no way to detect whether the air we breathe actually contains oxygen. I expect that, if the person thrashed and trembled, it was either because he was faking, or because he finally understood that he was looking at the last four walls he would ever see.

[@FynnOliverEmonSill]

lol..... Are you just a Mr. know it all! NOT

[@FynnOliverEmonSill]

@@diegofondoo1780 they don’t all go the same way

[@PropagandaBurnerV]

​@@FynnOliverEmonSillyeah they do.

[@FynnOliverEmonSill]

Let's circle back to what it was I was replying about@@diegofondoo1780 "I expect that, if the person thrashed and trembled, it was either because he was faking" as the original poster said....I say again....THEY DON'T ALL GO THE SAME WAY. ....and for mr know-it-all to spout off like he did -- don't know enough.

[@FynnOliverEmonSill]

@@diegofondoo1780 my comments are being deleted by the channel

[@robertgill448]

To the rev jeff hood who stated it was the most horrific thing he has ever seen I say to you Did you see the pictures of the crime he committed against an innocent woman? The pathologist reports on her fatal injuries? Your word is worthless as this was a silent peaceful painless extermination of a creature.

[@slacker2101]

A civilized country?

[@alec4623]

MSNBC has this attitude that they are perfect. Always over critical of others.

[@ericpetitclerc5519]

Yes, Fox is not judgemental at allllllll, oh God you a re hilarious. Yes MSNBC has a judgment, like many other outlets...

[@goUkraine]

OMG YOU ARE RIGHT!! Fox News, OAN, and others have never been critical. Thanks for pointing out their errors....

[@RSDavis-fb1go]

Perhaps one should not CHOOSE to be a criminal.

[@dwayneellis2003]

Lol, my comments keep getting deleted immediately on videos like this. What's with all the censorship, KZbin??

[@stoopidpursun8140]

They will delete anything that isn't anti-Trump hate. I took someone's criticism of Fox, repeated it, replaced Fox with MSNPC, and they deleted it. Not the original though.

[@Ferd414]

Simple: KZbin is a flock of leftards that can't stand truth being spoken.

[@parkmeyer4737]

Funny how he complains about how he was killed. What about the victims?

[@donnar9281]

Is it humane how they put down a racehorse with a broken leg?

[@elvenkind6072]

How do they put down a racehorse with a broken leg?

[@resourcedragon]

@@elvenkind6072: I believe they use a bolt gun, or something along those lines. My problem with racehorses is that horse racing leads to a lot of broken legs which in turn leads to a lot of horses having to be put down.

[@MrManerd]

I don't believe it for a second. In September of 2007, 25 miles off the coast of East Yorkshire, 3 sailors aboard the ship Viking Islay died trying to perform maintenance on an anchor chain because the chamber it was contained in had no oxygen on account of it all becoming rust on the chain and chamber walls. Their tragic deaths were described as though someone flipped a switch that caused them to go from alive one second and peacefully unconscious the next. Nobody described any thrashing or convulsing. I'm not saying this witness was lying, I'm saying the state botched it up somehow. Maybe some oxygen was allowed in by mistake, maybe the gas that they pumped in the room wasn't pure nitrogen, I don't know. But I do know the method is sound, the problem can only exist with the implementation.

[@therealJamieJoy]

One anecdote does not create medical precision. That's not how science works. It wasn't even administered in the same fashion.

[@nomore6167]

"In September of 2007... Their tragic deaths were described as... But I do know the method is sound" - You're claiming that the method is sound based exclusively on the unconfirmed description of a single unrelated, unscientific, unrepeatable event which occurred in unknown, unrecorded, unmonitored conditions? That's not proof. That's not even "educated guess" territory.

[@MrManerd]

@@therealJamieJoy We're not talking about science, we're talking about medical engineering. Science is for making discoveries. Engineering is for applying those discoveries to practical applications

[@MrManerd]

@@nomore6167 No, the reports are very much confirmed. A full investigation was launched by the UK and the results are publicly available and scientific. I suggest you google it.

[@therealJamieJoy]

Let's play vocabulary test: Medical Engineering Medical Engineering Applied Sciences Science Scientific Method Anecdotal Evidence @@MrManerd

[@954ram7]

How come you guy's never have this kind of fight for the victims or innocent people fighting for freedom?

[@yannistsili6585]

Nitrogen is actually euphoric. The effects of nitrogen are known to every diver in the world. It is used in assisted suicide. The effects related to this execution cannot be the result of nitrogen.They can only be described as the understandable effort of the condemned to avoid breathing

[@curiouscat8457]

Just a small correction: Nitrogen is euphoric only under elevated pressure. That's where the 39m depth limit for recreational diving comes from. It has no effects under normal atmospheric pressure.

[@yannistsili6585]

@@curiouscat8457 Very interesting. I didn't know. Thank you

[@Wyldfae28]

How is it the doctors who assist terminal patients to die with dignity can manage a peaceful passing with family in attendance but the criminal justice system just can’t do this well? This is a horrible way to die.

[@jeffhess7130]

And what about his "VICTIM" ?🤔?'

[@dianaallen5700]

I wonder what the person he killed would say about this comment.

[@PrayThenBreathe1528]

@@jeffhess7130and what about the dude that turned this guy into who he was? Where does the blame stop?? Are we not allowed to have empathy and compassion for another human being? I wouldn’t wish this on anyone because I’m not them!

[@AlonzoSuates]

Especially if later they find out a person was innocent. I'm pretty sure it's happened.

[@scottdunkirk8198]

@@PrayThenBreathe1528too late for that but to coddle evil people only make them do more evil

[@Steve-bl8rx]

MSNBC has an agenda with regards to this guest.

[@Lily-wp8ol]

Anyone have any idea as to what the convicted felons victim endured as she died?

[@johnsmith7140]

Sheer horror

[@regular-joe]

The authorities expected him to be "unconscious within seconds and die within minutes". Outrageously misleading statement, avoiding just exactly what he experienced during those seconds and minutes before his death.

[@sashafarber617]

He stabbed a mother to death. No consideration for her pain and thrashing, her children, the lasting pain of her family without a mother... nothing. I feel nothing for that man. Think about that before you consider anything for that monster. THINK about what you are saying and who you are weeping for!!!

[@johna3607]

Just like his victim.?

[@alalmquist9423]

Maybe he shouldn't have committed murder.

[@andrewerickson6089]

The slow reduction of atmospheric pressure results in drowsiness, unconsciousness and death, it happens in airplanes quite often.

[@stevemacdonald840]

"Often" really?

[@armysapper12b]

It’s the termination of a life, what do expect? Imagine what his victim experienced, he wasn’t concerned about their well being and pain.

[@ronwinkles2601]

You are saying it took 15 minutes or longer to induce death. Would 15 minutes in the electric chair be similar in length of time or shorter?

[@resourcedragon]

"Would 15 minutes in the electric chair be similar in length of time or shorter?" "How much does the Macca's one dollar meal deal cost?"

[@andrewtischler9385]

Some countries that still use the death penalty. The USA is in fine company. China 1,000s see text Iran 576+ Saudi Arabia 196 Egypt 24 USA 18 Iraq 11+ Singapore 11 Kuwait 7 Somalia 6+

[@GaZonk100]

theirs are POLITICAL...conflation is for the dumb and faux-empathetic

[@joycegifford8826]

BS.. The inmate would have been given a sedative first.

[@gregs.2679]

During his initial attempted execution, this man dehydrated himself and tried all measures to avoid making injection easy. He refused to make a fist. Fine, can't expect him to cooperate. But, for him to claim that the poking of the needle for failure to find a vein intravenously and then intramuscularly and "excruciating poking from the needles" was inhumane?? He stabbed a woman to death! He never fully accepted his capital sentence. As the AG put it, "he gamed the system for as long as he could," prolonging his life until HE chose the nitrogen gas method. Presumably, he didn't think he would get his choice approved due to his prior "botched" execution, let alone by a never-before-tested method. But, the state used his own defense attorneys' expert witness on euthanasia against him, the expert claiming, "it's a humane way to die!" He also held his breath as long as he could and was told only to drink clear liquids an hour or so before the execution. He didn't eat all day then ate Waffle House smothered in A1, so that he could get sick and choke on his vomit and not breathe in nitrogen, so that it would look inhumane and someone would step in. They knew he was going to be doing this. Unsurprisingly, during his final statement, there was no mention of the victim and no apology to the victim's friends and family or the courts. Just some offensively ironic ravings about "love, peace, and light."

[@beckyhenkel7917]

Hey Mr, you have to find another job. That one is very unhealthy!! It will destroy you.

[@caspasesumo]

The Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution protects against imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishments. What recourse is there for a state that violates the Constitution?

[@davidb3271]

Zero recourse, given that the state violates the 2nd amendment constantly.

[@leejouglard8602]

What about the cruel and unusual punishment of aborting babies in the womb

[@pinkdollangel]

@@leejouglard8602❤❤

[@Babyluthi]

@@leejouglard8602 off topic

[@briandfallon74]

@@leejouglard8602no state is in the business of deciding to terminate a pregnancy mate

[@j.c.3800]

Hanging is quick.

[@Johnny_Riot]

There is a reason all the veterinarians stopped using this method and came out about it's cruelty to try and prevent this.

[@toriplayssg]

Veterinarians have to put loved pets down who are suffering and ill. This man murdered an innocent woman. Children lost their mom. Parents lost their daughter. This is not the same. Edit: Husband hired him 😡 thanks for correction

[@blakethompson635]

@toriplayssg Your point stands… but I’m pretty sure husband paid for the wife to be killed in this instance?

[@jonathanshaw8868]

​@@toriplayssg so how much of the constitution are you comfortable with ignoring??? What if this was a wrongly accused man? I think anyone who is ok with this is the worst form of human trash, because not only are you just as sadistic as those being executed, but worse you put your ok with this being used against hundreds or thousands of people.

[@tr3vk4m]

cruelty is always the same@@toriplayssg

[@scottkrafft6830]

These so-called veterinarians aren't judicial law experts for a reason.

[@nicolehousden8984]

Ridiculous that they are showing so much sympathy for a murderer. His victim was shown no sympathy when he was killing her. Bible says eye for and eye. No sympathy for this man he should suffer his victim did. Makes me sick that people are showing this murderer sympathy

[@johnfalkowski928]

Was he given a list of options on how it was to be done

[@JC-tq8gm]

Just like his victims...

[@Paul-ou1rx]

This is all so upsetting....why was this not available on pay-per-view? (or free on prison TV?)

[@sunnydelight5255]

😄👌

[@ginan.y.6373]

This is inhumane 😢, my dog went in a second at the vet.😢😢

[@COND3N4Dos]

He isn’t human. “Inside the house, Elizabeth was ambushed, violently punched, beaten, and bludgeoned, and stabbed over and over again with the six-inch survival knife that Smith and Parker had brought with them.”

[@marthaelenacorral3042]

If his murdered victims could have been present in the execution...what'd they say? How many murder victims are surrounded by their family's love and support while being butchered?

[@scabcrawler632]

Oh look a fresh new biden voter

[@johntuel2375]

The republicans have more recorded cases of dead voters.

[@josephsonora3787]

Oooh! Should have been televised via Pay Per View! 👀