Flash vs Effort Game 5 @ Korean Air OSL Finals

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@Tpike777
@Tpike777 6 жыл бұрын
And almost 9 years later flash loses again to effort.
@kevinswift8654
@kevinswift8654 6 жыл бұрын
+1 if ASL Season 6 brought you here!
@goonzies
@goonzies 14 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this. This was amazing. Not just winning, but coming back from two losses and a possible win in the first game that never happened. Someone TL doesn't even have in their power rank. I can't believe it. Amazing series!!!!
@TheTravisLMiller
@TheTravisLMiller 14 жыл бұрын
I hear people say that effort did not deserve that win. He completely deserved it.
@buddyboy122122
@buddyboy122122 14 жыл бұрын
Super happy for Effort, he pulled off a great comeback with really exciting play. He looks really happy
@gmdimaano
@gmdimaano 14 жыл бұрын
"What you lack in skill, you make it up on Effort" :D great series by both players.
@z00tGRUNT
@z00tGRUNT 14 жыл бұрын
I also cannot believe what I just saw! o_0 Epic finals - thanks for casting, guys!
@soltys_pl
@soltys_pl 14 жыл бұрын
e p i c s h i t!! what a crazy decision from flash ohmygosh So nicely executed by effort What a comeback
@Spanishiwa
@Spanishiwa 14 жыл бұрын
Flash with balls of steel. Props to him.
@Tony000888
@Tony000888 14 жыл бұрын
OMG its finally here!!! refreshed like 100 times!
@MrDickermoppel
@MrDickermoppel 12 жыл бұрын
if you go 14 CC without scouting on a two player map you deserve to be punished...
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 14 жыл бұрын
LOOOL, classic build order choice by Flash. I thought he had given that one up already.
@kawaimto
@kawaimto 14 жыл бұрын
WHOO!!!! Go effort!! Great to see him get his first OSL win!
@lucasiskewl
@lucasiskewl 14 жыл бұрын
Oh man... I was rooting for effort to win, but when he did... I was kind of freaked out that it actually happened.
@WickedServantEbay
@WickedServantEbay Жыл бұрын
This tasted so much better because of what happened at the very beginning
@RaiKageRyu
@RaiKageRyu 14 жыл бұрын
SPOIL: OMG! You kidding me Flash?! You allowed a 2-3 comeback. Can't believe Flash got owned by his signature quick CC again.
@JamieGajer
@JamieGajer 14 жыл бұрын
i thought it was indeed very tricky to defend this speedling rush, because the way flash tried to defend it was this, op i see the lings trying to sneak around the mineral line, so he emptied the bunker and ran them towards the choke to his main (also blocked the back of the mineral lines with scvs so the lings couldnt get through.) but then the lings went back up towards the bunker and the rines were out of place and they got surrounded and scvs couldnt block proper. effort did an awesome rush
@wdqgdf
@wdqgdf 14 жыл бұрын
@SSdraken not that strange that he screwed up a bit with the block. I remember how in the last OSL or MSL, where he met Jaedong (think it was the series with the computer fail), he neglected to build some turrets in his main and got owned by the initial muta harass.
@BrianJacko
@BrianJacko 14 жыл бұрын
totally unexpected....I'm happy for him!
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
flash loses a game, "OMG, how could you do that build, now you lost! how did you not learn not to do that?"
@Zahtarah
@Zahtarah 14 жыл бұрын
Fun micro low econ micro battle between two really good progamers, not a letdown at all. I didn't see if effort was teching to mutas... could he be? or was he limited to using his extractor for speed?
@LegendaryInsurgant
@LegendaryInsurgant 14 жыл бұрын
well effort sent those zerglings around and flash had to send his marines back or the zerglings would have gone for a rampage in flashes main base, so when flash tried to stop the zerglings from running into his base effort sent his zerglings back, so it was a sort of damned if you do and damned if you dont
@ChAoS9779
@ChAoS9779 14 жыл бұрын
Very big congrats to Effort for winning that. :)
@MrGuibig
@MrGuibig 14 жыл бұрын
just and epic game guys thxs for the comments u guys are great
@nlafm
@nlafm 11 жыл бұрын
unbelievable, flash is so stronger then effort, he just needed to play with less risk. sick games.
@gillyarg
@gillyarg 14 жыл бұрын
hmmm so who has more 2nd place finishes, Flask or Stork? And flash gets to play JD next ... is there some choking here?
@lolimontheinternet
@lolimontheinternet 14 жыл бұрын
Well, that move (and this series) sums up Flash's Starcraft career. A great, great set though.
@thesheepthemightythecrazy
@thesheepthemightythecrazy 14 жыл бұрын
it feels like flash throwing his golden mouse away.
@Drakensteel
@Drakensteel 14 жыл бұрын
Great match lol. Love getting to see so much ling play. Gotta say, did not see this coming though lol.
@Zapadlo
@Zapadlo 14 жыл бұрын
Spoiler!!! I think the biggest error apart from the build was the point where he let a few zerglings in and then pulled marines to go down and deal with them. If only he left those marines to defend the front door and dealt with zerglings with the SCVs, granted he would've lost more SCVs but might've held the front and then... well, who knows.
@SolarStarVanity
@SolarStarVanity 14 жыл бұрын
@890919one 14cc is the exact reason he lost. the marines was a micro error, sure, but that didn't make any difference
@younglinkms
@younglinkms 14 жыл бұрын
Spoiler Wow amazing series especially for effort! well done to come back from 2 games down. great aggressive play, too bad for flash. effort was so happy after that and he deserves it. mad props to effort
@on1clean
@on1clean 14 жыл бұрын
G4 reminded me of Jaedong vs Fantasy in the Bacchus OSL semi's from 09 where he failed a 4 pool and pooled it out. That takes more then skill. Flash has all the skill but I think he lacks the 'magic'.
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
so you admit its not a bad build and you are not able to tell him he should not do it?
@gininogli
@gininogli 14 жыл бұрын
Why not lifting of the command center build a engineering bay and a supply depot and use these three buildings to block off the choke in front of his natural expansion. Would have worked best in my opinion.
@cpricejones
@cpricejones 14 жыл бұрын
makes me wonder about the organized gambling and match rigging ...
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
oh, so the commentators are able to see what the players optimal strategy should be by being able to view the map? How are the commentators able to tell the players the correct strategy unless they are better than them
@JakzLusterz
@JakzLusterz 14 жыл бұрын
This is game five.. wAAaaaAAahhhh!!
@hrushikr
@hrushikr 14 жыл бұрын
Query: did Flash throw this series?
@ampdgmr
@ampdgmr 14 жыл бұрын
"That's what it all comes down to, who has the better skill" .. Apparently not in this set of 5, unless you count the first two which was the only games that lasted a decent amount of time, and look who won, not only won.. dominated.
@glyw
@glyw 14 жыл бұрын
WHY?!!??!?!?!! did you do it??? WHYYYYY?????
@Truth0rDeath
@Truth0rDeath 14 жыл бұрын
I don't care who wins but ending it with that kinda game is just sad.
@EeXen
@EeXen 14 жыл бұрын
I've been refreshing all day lol
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
yes then why do they continue to use it? theyve got all the coaches and their whole team for support and they still do it. are they right or are you people? especially in the 5th game of the finals what? the observation has no basis
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
they are not able to tell him what build he should do
@burch11
@burch11 12 жыл бұрын
Flash swept Jaedong 3-0 in the Hana Daetoo MSL finals with this build. (14 cc)
@thehermitwizard
@thehermitwizard 14 жыл бұрын
Man, MASSIVE choke on Flash. Kudos to Effort for the amazing comeback; I would have sworn that Flash would've taken it 3-0 after game 2, cause Effort was looking terrible. But way to go Effort for the ass-whooping you gave to Flash. :)
@ARMolasses
@ARMolasses 14 жыл бұрын
since when did starcraft get so popular among the korean girls?
@helbovine
@helbovine 14 жыл бұрын
@NaturalTvventy Agreed.
@omgLordLituslol
@omgLordLituslol 14 жыл бұрын
@wasdwasdedsf I don't understand your sentence the commentator gets to see what both players are doing at any time... the players only see their side of things what aren't you understanding about what I'm saying?
@omgLordLituslol
@omgLordLituslol 14 жыл бұрын
@wasdwasdedsf they're not talking randomly man... his fast CC into GG build is world famous
@lowfatfishsticks
@lowfatfishsticks 14 жыл бұрын
Spoiler was that a royal roader?
@Xanczor
@Xanczor 14 жыл бұрын
omg... I so wanted Flash to win, Effort got lucky three freaking times...
@CaptainCarrotify
@CaptainCarrotify 14 жыл бұрын
You can't take the awesome out of Moletrap and Diggity, but you can take the fucking 14 CC build out of your strategy Flash!!!!
@Up4Review
@Up4Review 13 жыл бұрын
EFFORT I WONT LIE WHEN HE's PLAYING WOULD FREAK ME OUT WITH HIS CAT EYES...
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
you have also yet to answer me asking what you meant by "It seems like a stupid build to do, especially on the 5th game of the finals." also "It might work in the practice rooms, but if it never works in the leagues then why do it?" why would there be a difference also did not answer my comment- I would assume that progamers owuld not want to do something that would make them less likely to win"
@Smaschge
@Smaschge 14 жыл бұрын
Game 5 HUAAAAHHHHHHH. Thumbs up, moletrap!
@azmanntoz
@azmanntoz 14 жыл бұрын
they should power up the 747 at the end to clear everyone out of the hanger lol
@adamisuber
@adamisuber 14 жыл бұрын
Why can't flash play standard and bowl effort over
@omgLordLituslol
@omgLordLituslol 14 жыл бұрын
@i3rucei3ruce oh man, I suppose flash looks like jackie chan right? hehehe, I don't see the resemblance, but what do I know what a great game, and what a great match... moletrap+diggity=awesomesauce.. please do more commentaries guys!
@IGFBP5
@IGFBP5 14 жыл бұрын
WHY?!WHY?!Flash,why go for 14CC?!!
@user-ke3wp7cn1i
@user-ke3wp7cn1i 14 жыл бұрын
effort showing the effort after being down 2-0
@890919one
@890919one 14 жыл бұрын
klazart, and moletrap both bashed on flash for 14 cc, only nuke didnt, and thats why i like the nuke best, hes the most honest, less bias commentator. 14cc is not why flash lost, he lost because he pulled his marines back out the bunker.
@SuperiorBeen
@SuperiorBeen 14 жыл бұрын
Guess who won the MSL using exactly this build? ... Anyway the problem is that Flash didnt wall-in! He should had use the barracks to block the natural expansion. Flash chocked... He's still the better player though.
@Tony000888
@Tony000888 14 жыл бұрын
And I refuse to say 'first' and ruin this epic last match!
@bbqz23
@bbqz23 14 жыл бұрын
@hrushikr Perhaps he's involved in the game-fixing scandal rocking Kespa
@angelmarauder
@angelmarauder 14 жыл бұрын
Spoila Effort. You beat a MHaxor. Wowza. Flash's micro failed somehow here....
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
actual hard analysis to see what the problem is. and its not that the fucking build that has been used forever is faulty. indeed there is nothing to argue, I autowon in the very first comment I made
@Ryuouken
@Ryuouken 14 жыл бұрын
To all the (stupid) ppl saying that he gave the game away on purpose for money or something, remember what this final was about. It was the golden freakin' mouse. Also, winning an OSL will surely bring you some sweet cash, and honestly. Do you think Flash is in need of money?! Nervosity, mindgames, overanalysing, w/e I dont know. But Flash tried his best and Effort beat him. GG
@sneddie
@sneddie 14 жыл бұрын
i really cant understand why he would go that build when im sure he could win by just playing straight up. But, who am i to judge =)
@chileancrippler
@chileancrippler 8 жыл бұрын
Flash got confident and cocky on the 2-0 advantage
@SolarStarVanity
@SolarStarVanity 14 жыл бұрын
SPOILER wow... flash gave it to him. the stupid cheese in game 4. and this. why???? why not a standard game?... :( i don't understand it.
@SrMorua
@SrMorua 14 жыл бұрын
@GsUp37 Indeed he is! He is a zerg, an infested terran... FOR THE OVERMIND! YEAH!
@saldownik
@saldownik 14 жыл бұрын
who would suspect after first two, so nervous games, mr. alien will come back all the way? gg Effort
@ChifundoBanda
@ChifundoBanda 14 жыл бұрын
Extremely disappointed in the final game, especially after waiting so long for it to upload to see flash get taken out by a zergling rush leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Guess this proves that even the greatest players are not perfect.
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 14 жыл бұрын
they get to see what commentators see. so a commentator do know thegame beetter than him, then?
@omgLordLituslol
@omgLordLituslol 14 жыл бұрын
@wasdwasdedsf I don't understand how you came to this conclusion I want my commentators to know the game better than I do, and I want them to point out things they feel are being done in error... and yes, a pro gamer knows starcraft better than just about any commentator, but they don't get to see what commentators get to see flash spent about 6 months failing with this very build... a commentator pointing out that it's dumb to come back to that in an ace match is doing his job.
@bbqz23
@bbqz23 14 жыл бұрын
I predict this to be the beginning of Flash's slump :\
@JamieGajer
@JamieGajer 14 жыл бұрын
YEAaaaaaHHS amazing!! perfect counter by effort even though he wasnt positive flash was going to go for a fast cc. maannnn i loved this series. effort is the champ. flash's silly little try to sneak a fast command center seems to ALWAYS be the downfall in his play. i think effort kind of actually knew flash was going to go to try to get the early advantage which is why effort went hatch expo and gas before pool even. very nice! effort is amazing
@kitnammm
@kitnammm 14 жыл бұрын
wooo! that's wassup! effort ftw baby!
@mebe
@mebe 14 жыл бұрын
if flash threw the game for money would we ever know?
@xsagradoxcorazonx
@xsagradoxcorazonx 14 жыл бұрын
i am sooo happy that Flash lost. =)
@i8thefood
@i8thefood 14 жыл бұрын
Its an fing 2 player map. D: why the hell did he 14 cc. T.T
@OmnipotentO
@OmnipotentO 14 жыл бұрын
man that sucks so hard for flash.... wow
@crorens
@crorens 14 жыл бұрын
@hrushikr hah why would he?
@rocklee302
@rocklee302 14 жыл бұрын
FLASH! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
@fremoq
@fremoq 14 жыл бұрын
1:55 flash: R my M4phAx rdy? coach: Ofcourse. :D
@NaturalTvventy
@NaturalTvventy 14 жыл бұрын
I have said it before, I'll say it again. Effort didn't win this, Flash lost it. The whole series.
@p111SC
@p111SC 14 жыл бұрын
SPOILER: Flash is the new Hyuk.
@zak1zakzak
@zak1zakzak 14 жыл бұрын
Anti-spoiler post, to try to scroll all the spoiler comments down a little. . . . .
@Schmidt54
@Schmidt54 14 жыл бұрын
Zergling rush basically, pretty lame for a final hame I think...
@rbrtchng
@rbrtchng 14 жыл бұрын
O.O FUCK, I wanted to see a golden mouse DAMMIT!
@1bugleboi1
@1bugleboi1 14 жыл бұрын
niiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!
@darrens888
@darrens888 13 жыл бұрын
@StrikerX228 i think you are the troll sir.. that person's argument has more meaning than urs
@CentsOfFate
@CentsOfFate 14 жыл бұрын
SPOILER SPOILER Flash more or less beats himself when it comes down to these things. Look at GGPlay vs Flash on Plasma on the Round of 8 OSL. When Flash does stupid stuff instead of playing standard, he loses. None the less, Congratulations to Effort, well deserved come-from-behind win.
@EziixPked
@EziixPked 14 жыл бұрын
@Spanky00Cheeks 12 hatch to speed lings
@EbeeDeeby
@EbeeDeeby 14 жыл бұрын
I wasnt happy with how this one turned out! Not cool! Oh well, maybe next time!
@kylepwndyou
@kylepwndyou 14 жыл бұрын
. Maybe he wont 12cc anymore.
@abkleo
@abkleo 14 жыл бұрын
mind fucked the first 2 games.. no micro, suiciding mutalisks by effort... and then WHOA~!!! kungfu micro kicks in.... gg flash...
@crazeh
@crazeh 14 жыл бұрын
fffuuuuuu...Flash's win percentage with 14 CC is about 0% why would he resurrect this build for the final game!
@TacoMaster07
@TacoMaster07 14 жыл бұрын
SPOILER i would of built an ebay to the left of the bunker and a supply depot behind the mineral line left of the minerals to the right of the gas and just turtled it up would of been so ez to defend it man i wish i was flashes coach that was so ez to defend lol :S
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