The Glitch That Can KILL KH1 Speedruns

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

Update: A consistent setup in the fight before Final Rest has been found. According to Denhonator's research, it has to do with ID's getting overflowed by getting hit many times by the Invisibles' desperation moves (the purple orbs that circle around you). You can watch his video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/emWVfoOifdeMjdU We still think there are other ways to activate this glitch, and I'd love to see if that's true outside of encounters with Invisibles. Update 2: Because of the nature of this glitch, I have decided to change up the bounty to make things fair. I will be awarding $250 to Denhonator for finding the initial reason why the glitch was happening and showing the "7FFFFFFF" attack ID value to be the cause of that by overflowing the ID with many desperation moves from the Invisibles/high enemy spawn rate. I will be awarding the other $250 to the person who can find a way to "underflow" the attack ID to "7FFFFFFF" using a different method, as this will most likely have a dramatic effect on the speedrun. We think there is a way to do this because fellow speedrunner CrystalCrown was able to one-shot shadows in Dive to the Heart during one of his runs (although the footage is yet to be found).

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

Do you think this would help you all in speedunning ? I feel like you need to spend time to set it up , not to mention Sora needs to be strong enough to take a beating .

[@DavidChesher]

​@@Faceless_time_travelerIf sora has an isg lols or in this case an ikg... Ibg? Regardless, nah if we get 60 hits per swing, that's more than enough to walk through the game, especially if there's a way to get it to happen early game and in different instances. But you're right as far as figuring out the set-up and how long it would take for the set up to be worth it for speed runners. Finding the glitch in general though would be awesome I hope someone is looking into it.

[@conyo1942]

The glitch begins at 1:11. At .25% speed you can see Sora's swing takes out the Invisible in two hits. At the exact moment the glitch is activated, Sora's swing hits the Invisible and Donald comes back to life. My guess is that the ID's related to the Invisible's DM + a side character returning to life at the same time as a hit on the Invisible causes the ISG.

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

I've pinned a comment that explains how the glitch works

[@Elchinodiabolero]

Violin! This was brilliant, very well edited and narrated. I would LOVE to see a series of videos about speed running strats just like this one Oh, and good luck to the people trying to get the glitch to be consistent!

[@sorakekevii]

thats insane how theres a glitch from 2017 that has never been replicated ever since. i never even knew about this glitch until today

[@camharkness]

I was trying to figure out what was different.... then it hit and I feel so dumb XD Its actually super interesting that there's even a glitch like this in kh1

[@slickzilla12]

I've always been curious about this! Great vid idea!

[@DawnSRC]

Yo great video! Cool to see that there has already been progress since this released! Excited to see if this can lead to even more discoveries 👀

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

Your videos actually inspired me to make this style of video, so thank you!

[@L1K34PR0]

i live for these glitches so you earned my sub because i'm dying to see how this turns out

[@tecknowledjee6933]

Denhonator solved this for those who don't know. Props to Zantetsuken, Violin and Den!

[@f5203]

Hmm.. Interesting.. As a Software Dev, I'd like to figure out how this works/can happen. It's kinda like debugging, but 10x more difficult. Right before the glitch "activates" sora did a 3 hit combo in the air, then a swing into the air, all whilst dodging attacks and getting hit (probably in some specific order?) Goodluck to anyone that figures it out. Let us know what you're gonna do with the 100/500 bucks. I suggest going to a Japanese BBQ restaurant 🤣

[@surge2507]

I think it has more to do with the fact that the hitbox with the Keyblade and Goofy's shield attack overlapped which allowed the hitbox of the shield remain on the Keyblade. Do x.25 speed at 1:15 and check it out, but I could be wrong. It seems like Goofy's attack didn't connect at all, but as soon as the final hit of the Keyblade connected the glitch started.

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

The explanation for this glitch is in the pinned comment

[@whitestararmada103]

this game is so solid that w/e a glitch is found its always very intriguing to me =O

[@Master_of_light24]

I don't know that was a glitch

[@Dguncrazy]

It looks like the damage slowly gets ramped upwards not the infinte sword glitch. If you pay attention or slow mo it you can see that the downward slash was little damage for awhile but the follow up attack upward slash would be the finisher and eventually the downward slash turned into more damage and be the finishing blow 1:30 is downward to follow through upward slash that is insta kill. 1:35 is when the downwards slash turns into a insta kill at that point

[@Dguncrazy]

1:08 - 1:11 seems to be where the glitch starts

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

I'm pretty sure the lower damage was due to the keyblade not touching the enemy for as long. During the insta kills, he was extremely close to the enemy so that the entire weapon's hitbox connects.

[@1siriusblackguy507]

All right, so I've gathered these key notes The game is ran on the PS4 version. English, not Japanese. Standard or Proud is on assuming that the damage dealt towards enemies, without the glitch, is meager. Oathkeeper is equipped (+1 MP) I assume Zan has Ray of Light (+1 MP), Raven's Claw, and Ifrit's Belt equipped. Since there's 7MP and not 9MP, I can only guess Zan forgot to equip Royal Crown for the +2MP or did away with it to seek a balanced strength and magic build. Using Violin's last PB run. Sora's stats are as follows if we use Zan's equipment set up LVL 43, 54HP, 7MP, 17AP, 41 STR, 23DEF. (Sidenote: Zans HP bar is slightly bigger than Violins, could be due to a lot of reasons i.e. more levels being grinded out, different equipment though the one equipment that would make sense is Brave Warrior and who in their right mind would equip it at this point of the game) No combo modifiers like hurricane blast, blitz, combo plus, slapshot, The infinite sword glitch is fairly inconsistent from what i gathered. Sometimes happening on the downward swing of an air combo, upward swing or finisher. Given the glitch occurs the very start of the clip, There's no way (at least with my untrained eyes) to determine the root cause of the glitch. But here lies the end of my report with the data given, hopefully this helps

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

I linked the full clip in the description where the video starts without the glitch activated

[@Kevin700P]

3:20 I love glitches. I’m going to try to help the KH speedrun community ❤️

[@Skittlespillygog]

the hunt is on. this will be cool to see if they can get it to work throughout the entire game.

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

Oh by the way, I found another video of this glitch that someone encountered accidentally years ago for those who want to analyze it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIvZfK2Df5aWeZo

[@tyelerhiggins300]

It took me too long to notice the insane damage. When zan killed an angel star in one hit, I noticed something was up. I figured it was a crit but it kept happening. I might be wrong, but I think the damage cap under normal circumstances means that angel stars can't die in less than 2 hits. I can only imagine that even high level proud wouldn't do final rest this quickly. I know very little about speedrunning this game.

[@opallua6020]

That is very interesting. Is there more to the clip or any more info you could share in terms of whats been tested already ect?

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

All I know is that Zan tried to get the glitch to happen again back in 2017 with the same exact setup and couldn't figure out a way to make it work, so it's likely not related to any abilities or items

[@GrafDaaku]

I've mostly get another glitch which kills early speedruns. Mostly I get some game freezes on PC, when you have a room transition. No idea how to fix this or why this happens.

[@pauloneill9647]

Ik it’s farfetched to ask since it’s been a hot minute but do we know what abilities they had equipped? Just trying to narrow it down to everything possible

[@rabidtub]

just based on watching the clip over and over. i think somehow the hit with the hourglass near the wall as he got knocked back somehow cancelled the end of a hit register and it just got confused and never set a flag

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

See the pinned comment

[@SN_Idiot]

If zans vid didnt began with the glitch already triggered itd be much easier to analyze is. Sadge

[@xVaCaa]

the full clip is in the description (:

[@AlKohaiMusic]

Oh let the glitch hunting begin!

[@TheTacosKey]

Is it bad that i like how much damage the speed runners are taking? it makes me feel less bad about how well im doing

[@DarktoLight561]

I actually figured out something I couldn’t find on the internet, apparently I accidentally discovered animation canceling O-O

[@ethanwright6764]

That's crazy

[@roxysoobfr2577]

I did it I think but he's surely lvl max or around 70 you basically one hit

[@Sonic_Gamer501]

Even after you explained the glitch, I don't see how it's a glitch. All I see is someone whacking enemies.

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

You're not normally able to one shot enemies like that in KH1

[@mastertrain2210]

Time to study zan’s entire run religiously lol edit: Wait, it’s PS4Share? Does this entire run video exist?

[@Dguncrazy]

1:00

[@tenenbaummark]

Has this been figured out?

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

Yeah, check out the pinned comment for more details 🙂

[@Parallellr]

I like kh

[@alwaysdtf2197]

can you imagine if this can be activated for the whole game? shit would get crazy fast