Vir Sanghvi On Media, Modi’s Global Image, BBC Raids & Gandhis' Saga | Inside Out With Barkha Dutt

In the 7th episode of Inside Out with Barkha Dutt, Author and Columnist Vir Sanghvi opens up about the state of Indian Media and how he asked his son not to pursue journalism. He also speaks about Modi’s global image, raids on the BBC, and the saga of the Gandhi family.
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Chapters-
00:00 - 2:07 - Introduction
2:08 - 3:02 - Vir Sanghvi on being a journalist if he were young.
3:04 - 3:52 - Vir Sanghvi on what has changed the most about journalism
3.53 - 4:35 - Vir Sanghvi on what frightens indian media the most
4:36 - 5:50 - Vir Sanghvi on difference between activism and journalism
5:51 - 7:36 - Vir Sanghvi On complete degradation of Television media and debates
7:37 - 9:26 - Vir Sanghvi about polarisation in politics affecting ideologies
9:27 - 12:29 - Vir Sanghvi about faith and rhow extremist religious ideology has more power politically
12:36 - 14:01 -Vir Sanghvi on how politics has changed the compact of the citizen and the state
14:02 - 20.36 : portrayal of India’s internal issues in the western media while talking about the time when Indira Gandhi banned BBC
20:37 - 23:23 - Vir Sanghvi about how PM Modi and the foreign press
23:24 - 25:45 - Vir Sanghavi about his toughest story as an Editor given the political pressure
25:46 - 26:47 - Vir Sanghvi about Arun Jaitley & friendship between politicians and journalists
26:48 - 28:22 - Which politician was most prickly about criticism according to Vir Sanghvi
28:23 - 28:48 - Rahul gandhi’s response to his criticism
28:49 - 29:16 - Media and the government
29:17 - 30:40 - Toughest interview Vir Sanghvi had to do
30:41 - 31:23 - Vir Sanghvi about profiling Amitabh Bachchan
31:24 - 33:33 - Vir Sanghvi about Amitabh Bachchan and the Gandhis
33:34 - 34:45 - Vir Sanghvi on how Tahul Gandhi is different from Sonia Gandhi
34:46 - 35:42 - In what ways has the politics changed?
35:43 - 38:54 - Hostile relationship between Indira Gandhi & Media
38:55 - 40:52 - Vir Sanghvi on how India has changed
40:53 - 41:57 - Indira Gandhi and the communal politics
41:58 - 44:16 - Vir Sanghvi on how Indira Gandhi Lost control during Bhindranwale Khalistan Movement
44:17 - 44:58 - Favorite news assignment of Vir Sanghvi
44:59- 45:31 - News story that excited Vir Sanghvi
45:32 - 50:07 - Vir Sanghvi about being Right wing or Left wing
50:08 - 50:38 - Vir Sanghvi on how he deals with Social media noise
50:39 - 51:34 - One thing that gives hope to Vir Sanghvi about India as a nation and the one that makes him anxious
51:35 - 51:48 - Credits
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[@randhirnikam]

Hero and Heroine of the Nira Radia Tapes conspiracy getting together and passing judgement on other journalists. 😂

[@thandavanvaidyanathan7962]

Hard core hypocrites, dharbaris

[@thandavanvaidyanathan7962]

Shameless dharbaris,, spoiled the journalism in India for wealth and liquor

[@thomasthomasphilp4393]

Perversion of Muslims also should be equally discussed

[@ps-fv5qr]

No criticism of Muslims but as usual all wrong with hindus ...🤭 Elites living in bubbles trying to point 👉 fingers at others ..why all wrong it's hindus/modi/public/other media...but we Barkha n veer are saints .😂😂😂😂

[@bkk5153]

Very true. These people suffer from self-loathing, inferiority complex.

[@preethibhardwaj8400]

Absolutely right!

[@amansbc]

Aww...so cute...you both have missed Nira!

[@daisys8052]

Vir Sanghavi is an excellent journalist. Objective, articulate and dispassionate. Such a clear and cool talker, whether he is asking or answering questions.

[@asadshetty]

He was involved in radia tapes, he is no journo

[@Shyarty1]

My 95 year old Father in law who worked with people like C Rajagopalachary would always say that "Food and Religion are most personal and private and must never ever be imposed"...

[@harshit5803]

Then why Abrahamic faiths like Islam have people who try to impose their faiths on non believers?

[@y4ip2288]

@@harshit5803epic reply dude, now he will not reply for this... My 95 year's father my foot 😏. All this gyan only for Hindus 😂

[@harshit5803]

@@y4ip2288 right...there gyaan is only for Hindus. They don't have guts to criticize Islamists and missionary Christians.

[@harshit5803]

@@aashayj If you can't understand what I said, you should shut your mouth and don't write nonsense. Focus on real education, get your facts right and stop being a WhatsApp fb graduate. Grow up.

[@harshit5803]

@@aashayj If you can't understand what I said, you should shut your mouth and don't write nonsense. Focus on real education, get your facts right and stop being a WhatsApp fb graduate. Grow up.

[@abhilashpanda6812]

Offering to pass an ordinance for Jaya Bachhan is not an abuse of power by the former remote-controlled PM Manmohan Sing?

[@mmBharath2024]

Vir! You were part of journalism where they were getting Padma awards for sucking up to the family

[@thandavanvaidyanathan7962]

Excellent

[@jaydeepdaripa7472]

I had a value judgement about Vir Sanghvi.. The more I hear him these days more I have started to like him.. Indeed a decent conversation

[@sanjayvaidya4925]

You should then catch up on his role on the radia tapes. Youd love him. Kidar say atte hai ysh log?

[@shreevatsarao3260]

So you also believe... People who vote BJP do Pooja at home wants kill muslims ??

[@pkjh49]

Just mention his role in Radia Tapes and you will be immediately blocked.

[@siddharthsinha9300]

This was so much fun to watch! Brilliant questions and brilliant answers by two amazing people! Nice work, Ms Dutt, keep the great work going!

[@amitsingh-qt7er]

Great to see two radia tape journalists in same frame 😊😊

[@retipserjayzoom]

Even the radia tape journalists are better evil today. Difference

[@gaunikarora5157]

Get over it already

[@bkk5153]

Very true ! Oh those wheeling-dealing days of making money out of pimping for Congress-Communist-islamist mafia. And getting Padma-Shree, going on ISI funded exotic foreign trips for Track II meetings. Ah, that golden era of boot-licking "journalism" 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[@vaunsag]

Andh Bhakt spotted

[@gaunikarora5157]

@@vaunsag Andh Virodhi spotted

[@sesh7357]

Thanks Barkha for interviewing Vir. Love him for his clarity, simplicity, sanity... Love the way he brings balance to any discussion.. a remarkable journalist, human!!!

[@shreevatsarao3260]

At 11 min ... Vir said in different words but meant ... People who vote BJP do Pooja at home wants kill muslims ??

[@samreads]

One line summary of this interview: "Our honeymoon period is over. Our opponents today are doing what only we had the privilege to do before (damn those bloody modi acolytes); Democracy was kinda dead before, but at least we were enjoying our status... But now it is totally dead."

[@Employer101]

Sam reads i 100th that.

[@saikatbaug1937]

😂😂😂😂

[@pillalam]

Absolutely any other world both of them would have been not even seen but India being India they are still relevant

[@discomallu9769]

😂 , but I still admire their shamelessness . If I was them, I would have retired to wilderness after being caught.

[@discomallu9769]

​@@pillalam they are not relevant at all. The types who listen to them are folks who will praise even a stray dog ( even though dogs are supposed to be hated ) if it barks at Modi. 😂

[@arkude]

I do support bjp and vote for them , I am aware of their faults too. I found this conversation extremely refreshing and unbiased. More power to you barkha

[@tarunkaushik1550]

This guy writes “Rude Food” and “A Rude Life”…. But is so polite 😁🫣

[@nilyash]

This is why Barkha and Vir will remain in our memory for a long long time. You can clearly see where each have a different point of view despite being very liberal in their opinion.

[@anirudhsharma2720]

Isn't being 'liberal' or 'conservative' first sign of less brain? Why shouldn't one have opinions based on facts?

[@Vanshbhardwaj294]

​ bro. In my opinion, India is a weird country here - The right wants that women shouldn't hijab wear while the liberals support wearing the hijab Right oppose triple talaq while liberals support triple talaq Isn't this opposite to happens in America and Europe

[@Dr.AryamanAbhisekBiswal]

​@@Vanshbhardwaj294 In India it's more of pro Hindu vs anti hindu. Not so much right vs left

[@Vanshbhardwaj294]

@@Dr.AryamanAbhisekBiswal yup

[@y4ip2288]

Another andh bhakth of Modi 😏

[@jatinderbhan]

Excellent discussion! Don’t agree with everything, but well done

[@jaideepc786]

But that's the way it shout be.. 👍. Conduct fierce debatez on the issue without getting personal, go ahead & disagree, BUT without making personal allegations like calling people andh bakhar etc, and pidi-trolls alleging nonsense things like Rs 2 /troll etc..

[@modibhaktbuzurg7280]

Look at the superiority complex of these journalists… only they are correct and all other are wrong. They don’t understand that running a vast country like India is 1000 times more difficult than turning around a newspaper 😅

[@nacpatil]

They write stories for Paris or NY audience! And few partisans leftists in india.

[@Bella-nj5ys]

A delightful interview , Reminded of good old times as well as getting a perspective of where we stand as of today.

[@TheMaderDog]

Good old times when the VAST majority of people in India were VERY poor and struggled to feed themselves but as long as YOU are okay then it's good old times!

[@manh9105]

good old times where alleged journalists were fixing cabinet posts and where ministers were busy making schemes for defrauding the country?

[@subhabratadas8419]

Come full circle.

[@Butunmallick7851]

Problem with these seculars is they r open to teach Hindus about secularism but want to sit side by side with muslims,that's why I came out of that left idea trap

[@thandavanvaidyanathan7962]

Excellent

[@SDW3-6-9]

Excellent definition of pseudo secularism 😅

[@ukumar2604]

I was totally impressed with Burkha Dutt's insist questioning of someone who is probably from the same millieu as she.

[@IndiaHereNow]

The burden of secularism is not only on Hindus. Liberals try to do that and do not talk about what is happening on the other side. So then Indians have to go to people who talk about that as well.

[@balkrishnaparab3353]

The extent of being out of touch is that Vir Sanghvi is saying look at what is happening in the Middle East ... The reality is that the Middle East is changing for the better, it is opening up like nowhere else.

[@yaruingamawungshi7708]

I am surprised that Vir Sangvi also changed heart too soon. I see a lot of softening in his attitude towards.... some one... or some group

[@lalitharavindran]

He says he didn’t want his son to become a journalist because of the situation now and yet says this period is better than under Indira Gandhi!

[@VidhuShekhar83]

Very interesting. Vir Ji does daily Puja by lifting the candles...

[@maitreyeeghose6345]

When Hindu Kashmiri pandits were tortured where are these Muslim lovers journalist

[@thandavanvaidyanathan7962]

They were licking boots of Italian lady

[@gerarddsouza2178]

Very balanced view by Vir. Barkha my apologies for thinking you are tilting towards the current government but I got your point in one of your recent interviews on your stance and appreciate that. Keep up your good work and all the best to your channel

[@globaltryst713]

Vir …. I literally learned English by reading COUNTERPOINT AND RUDE FOOD …. U r a gem and I miss ur columns

[@PS-ej2xn]

He is regularly available on Pakistan TV.

[@mithunkartha]

Gr8 talk. Tnx.

[@khushroowadia9932]

Thanks

[@yulplateau]

wow… really like this new iteration of Barkha Dutt. So refreshing to see an honest discussion between real journalists. See a glimmer if hope here for a media that is focussed on issues not the bias they hold.

[@bkk5153]

Barkha and real journalist ? Since when ? Radia tapes, "teacher's son", etc etc etc have proven she is just a pimp of Congress-Communist-muslim mafia. Waiting forever to hear her program on forcible conversion racket of hindus in Britain, India, Pakistan, Bangla-Desh.

[@manh9105]

real journalists ?????

[@PoliticalMatter]

More like Manipulators on hire. Barka never spoke about the scams.

[@aparnadheepak7102]

Having a good English vocabulary doesn't make one real or a journalist !!

[@nnbg8000]

Licking their wounds....They were the part of the problem, they were the problem & they don't even realise...

[@silvepereira9221]

Vir my all time favorite Decent Classy and all

[@prosenjitbanerjee7490]

I am a fan of vir sanghvi

[@sameerchaturvedi2]

Fantastic description of how things were and how things are. We need more such deliberations. I want Barkha you to discuss the point with regard to activist journalism with Ravish. And I am saying it with all seriousness because I feel we need to engage with every kind of journalism under the sun critically that includes nuanced journalism.

[@asadshetty]

Ravish is a hack not a journalist

[@susanpinto3334]

Great interview.

[@johnjacob7287]

Superb interview...incisive questions great insights👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@chc55]

This is one of the best interviews I have heard in a long time. The observation that Mr Rahul Gandhi talks more and listens less is very astute but unfortunately it is true of most politicians. I agree with Ms Barkha Dutt. Mr Sanghvi should start his own podcast on what makes India enduring. I am sure he will interest a lot of people. India should stick to pluralism. Tamils constituted less than 15% of Sri Lanka and look what happened there when the Sinhalese imposed a majoritarian rule.

[@saikatbaug1937]

Radia reunion. Looking good guys😂😂😂

[@saminatyebally1480]

So admire Vir more so for his calm demure and balance approach to politics.

[@kshitij_void_]

Barkha, you are doing good.

[@latitudes1000]

Wow and wow .. kudos to good journalism

[@tvrsrinath]

I feel this is refreshingly cool and calm chat, without taking sides. Kudos to both.

[@MrRajendra79]

Grapes turn sour....for vir

[@madhulikanegi319]

How ?? & Why ??

[@arunpradeep4657]

Vir Sanghvi is so erudite and his observations are so on point. He really wears his intelligence quite loosely. Thank you for this interview.

[@khoslar1]

Very good interview. Vir Sanghi is balanced, mature and it's nice to listen to without the the noisy and shrill TV debates and interviews

[@philomenasequeira6083]

Great video!

[@Shailendrasingh-uo2jk]

Brilliant conversation and such a relief from normal TV shouting matches

[@surendragigabhoy5044]

Except that one is a sellout.

[@vineethsn]

They still can’t believe that the rug has been pulled. 😂😂😂

[@georgepattery4278]

Good to hear of the past, in a different light.

[@vijaysindhu-tkdm]

Change is the only constant, like all of us, you journalists also have to evolve based on the changing world. Good you mentioned Kargil and Barkha.

[@rohitdalmia8434]

Superb conversation. Nothing is right or wrong. What matters is that people should have the freedom to have their distinct/unique opinions about anything & everything. Both these legends (Vir Sanghvi, Barkha Dutt) studied from top universities in UK/USA (Oxford University, Columbia University). Today I pray to God that, I pursue an MBA program from a top B-School in USA/UK starting fall of 2024. I have always admired the work (columns, editorials, etc.) of both these journalists. Whether biased or not, both of them have this extraordinary ability to convey things (from their perspective). I think that's what truly matters. Even the best of humans, become biased at times. That's why we are humans (not God).

[@hareshpatel1066]

Rohitji, there is right and wrong. Human languages and communication is based on perspectives (परिप्रेक्ष्य). The word ‘right’ exists for a purpose. Our scriptures describes 3 types of opinions - 1.श्रीमत (opinion of the supreme ie absolute truth) 2. मनमत (human perspectives) and 3. परमत (everyone’s opinion). However, an expert opinion of a human-being based on sound reasoning is significantly better than WhatsApp Uni opinion, a mix of मनमत एंड परमत. This just my humble opinion!

[@padmajakothari8547]

So nice to here him after so many years....

[@residentindia]

recalling the Radia tapes

[@rushi9154]

Its always a delight to listen to Vir Sanghvi

[@dharmeshparikh7837]

Interesting conversation.

[@roobanloganathan6498]

How can two people who are biased towards the opposition and against BJP n Modi have an honest discussion about the politics scenario, freedom of media, credibility of opposition leaders, achievements of Modi etc? Of course they will show bias towards the idea that they have formed about this present govt n PM. For these two, would be a great shock if they talk how the lives of people, expansion of infrastructure, cutting down of centre govt corruption etc compared to Congress govt time.

[@pillalam]

They made their careers out of bjp hate

[@clreddy3623]

Wonderful to see Mr.vir after long time Barkha.He was very candid, true to what he believes. Barkha , would like to hear more true journalist on your channel. Than you Mr. Vir💐💐💐💐💐🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@debasish5246]

Both weeping together remembering their goodie times

[@surinderchowdhury]

Good old Radia days of NDTV when these journalists had a say in choosing ministers are now being recalled between the two buddies.

[@bkk5153]

Very true ! Oh those wheeling-dealing days of making money out of pimping for Congress-Communist-islamist mafia. And getting Padma-Shree, going on ISI funded foreign trips for Track II meetings. Ah, those golden era of boot-licking "journalism" 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[@saikatbaug1937]

Vir sanghvi you are not middle class😂😂😂 you are top 1% Elite Indian

[@user-xx9nt7zm8t]

So True!! That the new generation only knows material well being and we are not even remotely concerned or do not spend time discovering what really would make the country Bharat/India prosperous !

[@arvindverma2213]

Indira's time waz different...close to period of independence and enormous challenges with low resources. Today relevance of institutions is so much more

[@thepeacefulwarrior2879]

You're absolutely right. We can't judge those times by the same yardstick. During Indira Gandhi's times our country was almost teetering on the brink of collapse financially and militarily, given the circumstances. It's not so in this millennium. So the comparison is odious.

[@WellnessGraphy]

Nice

[@ashishsaxena2612]

Great interview. Such a pleasure hearing Vir Sanghvi!

[@user-wv3zf8nx6w]

Just bcoz u ppl have lost ur VIP status... doesn't mean that ppl shouldn't come in media...ever heard media ppl complaining when u ppl had those VIP privileges.

[@yogeshchandra2308]

Sanghvi has given a strong answer to Barkha with examples of religion in Arab countries

[@sansari8261]

👏👍

[@user-ke4ds1gd8p]

A brilliant intelligible and enlightening discussion!

[@satishchandraGK]

Reminds me of two sayings 1. Each saint has a past and each sinner has a future and 2. Grapes are sour!. Agree with the comments about so called TV debates!

[@sunilshegdeable]

I like this guys, Vir... thanks Barkha. I will follow him 😅😅😅

[@RohitGupta-uw7dz]

Dude Amnesty is a CIA front & regime change ops are pretty common tool for West to get pliable govts.

[@bkk5153]

They know it - but they are hands in gloves for money, "awards", foreign trips, visa, etc...

[@sunilshegdeable]

Barkha ji, you are the people who feed western media. And you get fed by them 😅😅😅. How obvious you looked in this interview 😅😅😅

[@devanshutrivedi7577]

Interesting to watch these two PRESTITUTES that were once reporting Piople's pulses and raising issues concerning democracy, harmony, are now discussing about Right and Left....Both were journalists I was proud of when Veer was editor of SUNDAY magazine And Dutt was reporting LIVE from Gujarat on infamous 2002 coo.unal riots that Naredra Damodar Modi conceived and administered.....but then onward, both lost their reputation at least in today's media world....Hope, they do more as True Journalists to strengthen Indian demoy and Harmony our great freedom fighters and visionary leaders dreamt of.

[@yogitasharma9120]

👌🏾👌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@bharatpandit4796]

It is good to find two veteran journalists speaking with a modicum of objectivity! One does not agree with every view point they put forth but this new found objectivity is welcome!

[@bkk5153]

Very true ! Oh those wheeling-dealing days of making money out of pimping for Congress-Communist-islamist mafia. And getting Padma awards, foreign awards, going on ISI funded exotic foreign trips for Track II meetings. Ah, that golden era of boot-licking "journalism" 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[@highspeed1513]

Burkha dutt , how you recover and establish your good emage in Bharat. !!!

[@Naps56]

"Effective Messaging" depends on the "effect" that one is seeking. That's putting the cart before the horse - in most media platforrms - social media or mainstream media. Everyone has an axe to grind.

[@nsisodia7387]

What happened during Indira Gandhi can't be compared today. We have evolved over 45 years. Let's not forget growth during Manmohan Singh. Evolution is a part of any party. Rite now, we are standing in the same situation during times of global civilization!

[@arnabkundu114]

Our economy has grown but people have not evolved a bit.....the society has regressed since 2014.

[@sheshpura8751]

जय श्री राम! हर हर महादेव! राधे राधे 🙏🏼

[@unmeshshukla4851]

Only one word to say abt this interview...Classy

[@PS-ej2xn]

Not quite as classy as Radia.

[@hanumanthbhounsle3492]

I saw some comments being deleted! No surprise!

[@rishiraaj.580]

Radio. Print Media. Electronic Media & Now Social Media. 👍

[@diva7892]

What is so appealing about VS vids, is his voice .... He says the most outrageous things (or the most mundane) in a mellifluous yet monotone ....decibel wise, nary a fluctuation

[@breathlessMay]

The closing remark by the interviewer to Vir: yes, please create a new show where we get to hear your counterpoints please.

[@mayank9638]

Ah...the "Radia" Legends assemble! 🤣

[@raghavendrabachu1743]

And also during UPA time 10 Janpath is more powerful than 7 race course road 🙂

[@Worrier629]

He talks so much sense! Enjoyed the chat.

[@kapilduvvuri2966]

Yes Please for a channel from Vir👍

[@ExpressEntertainment81]

Admirable journalism and a well balanced talk .

[@chc55]

Thoroughly enjoy your podcasts. All the interviews I have watched so far have been excellent!

[@pra8k]

You both forgot to discuss Radia Tape

[@sumanvyas6761]

Never understood why do we have to refer to past and say, we had bad past hence it is ok to have bad present

[@mailtorajrao]

Great interview! Thoroughly enjoyable

[@shivkumarmohite4672]

From what I gathered in this conversation, Vir is not so much bothered with the current political scenario.

[@jayeshdubey]

Barkha, it's high time that you start writing regularly for different publications in India as well. The way you articulated and gave clarifications to Vir about foreign media and their "biases" was really wonderful. Reading such pieces in Indian publications would be really great 👍. Looking forward to your writings as I look forward to your videos...

[@anilkulkarni9839]

Not required

[@manh9105]

mr dubey, you need to get your brains checked for suggesting this..

[@satishchandraGK]

@@anilkulkarni9839 She can try to undo some of the damage done by her in the past. She has to write IMO

[@balkrishnaparab3353]

Vir Sanghvi looked as if he was going to cry. Good control. Happens when you realise that you have lost it.

[@PreethamLavu]

Another 5 years, these clowns will totally disappear

[@mohansatagopa292]

Good 1 Barkha.Vir was spontaneous & honest in his answers..That shows his Brilliance as person & journalist.😊

[@krkrishnan2683]

Left leaning intellectually biased media influenced by foreign media has in fact one of root causes congress party degradation. The other factor is Hindu hatred and Muslim appeasement. The third factor being change geo- politics and economics . The fourth factor is people getting to know real stories of Indian pride rather than perverted stories being told about Hinduism and very much silent about other religions - opened up due to information technology

[@bkk5153]

Exactly right ! Foreign funding plus Congress-Communist-islamists umbrella gave career, money and perks to lots of people who excelled in boot-licking and sycophancy. People who have read Radia tapes know truth of Barkha.

[@123xyzabccba]

By indian pride you mean the enslavement of india by the moghuls, shahs, dutch, french, portuguese, english et al …😂😂😂😂😂😂