Virtual Reality is Not What You Think

[@mikeciul8599]

I wear hearing aids, and they can serve as bluetooth earbuds so I can listen to my phone or my computer through them. This is generally pretty convenient, but there are times when it's a bit frightening. When my phone starts playing an ad on KZbin, and then the interface freezes so I can't stop it, I feel like I'm in an episode of Black Mirror. I imagine that wearing an AR device all the time would be like that, but worse.

[@faequeenapril6921]

This is what worries me. Im not opposed to AR wearable technology, because theres so many use cases that geninuely would help so many people, my problem with it is that corporations realising and deciding to go all distopian cyberpunk on us and filling every cm of our vision and hearing with adverts.

[@susanlippy1009]

Lol. Agree. The ads are very obnoxious and often play louder than the video or podcast itself making it even worse. I was thrilled when I got my Bluetooth enabled hearing aides as I could finally enjoy listening to stuff at work like coworkers could with their headphones.

[@usagi9572]

I think I can tell you about how it feels to be severely deprived of tactile stimuli; I suffer from contamination OCD, which means I only touch and physically interact with the bare minimum of things; sometimes I can only grab things with gloves or pieces of paper, since dirtiness gives me an enormous amount of anxiety. I never touch the floor with my hands, or the walls, doors or handles in public spaces, and so on. I can hardly ever touch plants, animals or people; I cannot normally tolerate being touched. I have to avoid physical contact with so many things that I end up trapped in my room and isolated, rarely being able to go outside. So again, as someone so extremely sensory deprived, especially when it comes to physically feeling and interacting with your surroundings, I can tell you how awful it is and how much you would be missing out if your physical environment is either completely or partially replaced by a virtual realm. Don't do it.

[@MisterK-YT]

Wild. Are you comfortable touching your keyboard / phone screen to type, or do you mostly dictate text to avoid it? Be well

[@pieceD399]

Go wild , be stronger then the wall , the floor , etc , slap them :)

[@pieceD399]

@@MisterK-YT Probably if he consider something as his own personal "object" it wont affect , it will be like a part of him

[@pieceD399]

At the atom level everything is energy in this Universe , energy is clean :)

[@thelegend358]

These seemed all cool until you mentioned ads. If they were to implement these technologies, they better make a law to prevent pop-up ads cuz that would be dangerous.

[@lgjm5562]

Of course no law will prohibit ads. Ads pay the bulk of the costs for the tech. Ads pay the content creators . Advertisers pay the corporations that own the politicians.

[@mattrobson3603]

That's going to be a tricky balance, because if you put on your AR glasses and your spaces are now cluttered with ads - let alone pop-ups - a lot of people are just going to take them off and return them.

[@daviscarl3766]

Ads also reinvent themselves, its always uncanny and annoying

[@Spielername]

That's not the only danger I see here. This technology would only strengen the two class society and make nothing better in the long way. Those with money would by an ad-free version while anyone else had to use the hardly advertised & supported version with less features and stuff. It's maybe a strange comparation but Coca Cola is in many south American countries even cheaper as water. They have the reality that only kids from rich households are growing up drinking water while the poor get diabetes, bad teeth and are overweight. My point is, you can have all these awesome futures if you can pay for but don't even think about buying the ad version. You probably have to earn the points by doing some stuff for the company and almost everything you'll see on your headsets are ads, popups and other needles stuff. And if this is not enough, everybody who wanna know where you were at a certain time and what you did there, can see it now in HD or 4k... or whatever the standard will be.

[@daniel4647]

@@Spielername Not to worry, the hackers will find a way to jailbreak these things and block all the ads and shut down all the trackers anyway. It took like two days to port all the "exclusive" Oculus content to the the OpenVR based Vive with a single patch. They're trying to put everything in "the cloud" now so we can't do that anymore, but it won't work, we'll find a way.

[@ana_geo2319]

I WANT TO STICK WITH REALITY, as much as possible. Point. No more words to add about this matter ...Great video, thank you

[@Pile_of_carbon]

Yeah! As soon as I heard "virtual tree" my reaction was "Thanks, I hate it." I'd rather live in an ugly, but real neighborhood, than in an ugly one with fake trees, or even a fake tree between two real ones. Adding a beautifying layer on top of reality is the most dystopian thing I've heard in a long time.

[@ninjabee47]

In the future, describing someone as a "realist", will have an entirely new meaning. I rather want cities to invest in reality, then in some virtual improvements.

[@ThepurposeofTime]

The point of virtual improvements is so that it becomes EXTREMELY low cost while the real world could be set up for more natural architecture. Wake up!

[@sookendestroy1]

Smh but if it's all virtual you don't have to invest in public transit because people are in their heads anyways

[@MichaelBet-q1v]

I'm with you. Flooding, sewerage, garbage, and traffic jams may be whisked away in the virtual world but will remain a reality. You're not going to be able to escape the smell of a dead rat wearing a VR mask.

[@Zauchi]

@@MichaelBet-q1v wouldn't it be dangerous to pretend to remove traffic? lol

[@novlek]

Investments are regretably not controlled by cities, but by corporations.

[@jacobh9487]

You're obviously an architect, and I like your erudite and deep yet accessible explanation of things. You've earned my sub.

[@derrenleepoole]

Pass on both fronts for me. Don’t get me wrong, there’s something amazing about the creativity behind these developments and potential application… but I’m increasingly craving a quieter, calmer life away from technology, surrounded by nature…. The sounds, the sights, the smells. Give me this any day.

[@christianiigot8076]

I think the upside of this is that you would be able to choose by not donning the AR gear. But maybe I’m just being hopeful in that they’ll make the actual reality quiet

[@thegodlydemon2605]

If vr takes off like that then chances are that public places will be alot more peaceful because more people will choose virtual experiences instead of real ones

[@derrenleepoole]

People are already glued to their phone screens in such places and quite often they're far from quite. Most people act out their experiences using VR@@thegodlydemon2605

[@deice3]

Just load up "calming_forest_scene" in the VR goggles

[@chuiga2935]

For me VR and AR brought to everyday life just sounds that people can't stand being bored. That there always have to be some stimulation to keep their social media filled brains interested. For myself, I just want to feel and see the world as it is, with goods and bads. Be here in that moment.

[@AlanLamb11]

Most interesting thing I've seen on this channel. I already have put in a lot of work in the last 2 places I lived NOT to orient the living room around a TV. It can be difficult to have a TV in the room for those few nights I actually want to watch something vs the majority of nights I want to talk with people or read. Creating a TV that could fold away out of sight without tearing thru a wall was more work than I want to do again (modified shelving) so the 2nd place I used a projector which worked well enough, colors are a bit more muted but for the superrealistic 4K I found I liked that. In my current space I simply choose not to have a TV at all and have the projector in a different room, I put it out seasonally, usually in the middle of winter when there is a lot more darkness outside. Speaking to augmented spaces- having people 'see' literally different realities might be the end of civilization as we understand it. Those with the money and power to affect social change can live in their own reality, ignoring what they prefer not to see as if it did not exist... until it does not exist or there is a massive social shakeup.

[@___.51]

In Jack Vance's "The Eyes of the Overworld", the population of an ancient, ruined city continues on in faux-luxury thanks to magical lenses affixed to the eyes, lenses that show a view of the "overworld," a manifestation of humanity's greatest dreams and aspirations. While the denizens subsist on smoked fish and lentils, to their senses they feast on delicacies, and while they live in thatched-roof hovels, they see and move through the palatial mansions that once stood there. I was reminded of this setting by your video. It's troubling to imagine that, with technology, dark fantasy could become dark reality... Thanks as always for uploading!

[@_squirrelgirl_]

Exactly! I thought about this with the alley ways. What if you’re walking through a beautiful AR alleyway but you don’t realize how dangerous it actually is? Or the AR erasing physical elements that are posing a threat?

[@nairbvel]

Your comment about masks being creepy reminded me of something that happened back in 2020, when masks in my area were mandatory but still kind of a new thing. I was in a supermarket, and I passed a younger couple moving in the opposite direction down an aisle. They were deep in conversation -- which was a bit louder than usual because at that time no one was familiar with how much sound actually gets through a surgical mask, so I could her them clearly discussing the problems with masks. As they passed, the woman commented, "I can't tell what anyone is doing -- they could even be sticking out their tongue at me and I wouldn't know!" (Isn't it amazing what some people worry about...?) I also see a problem with virtual nature... An AR tree does not capture CO2, does not provide shade, does not provide shelter to small animals, does not help lower urban temperatures, does not... You get the idea.

[@ccvcharger]

That is an excellent point. My biggest concern is how this will shape the world for those of us that get left behind (i.e. the homeless, low income, and people living in rural areas and small towns). Keeping up with technology costs money, even more so for people who live in low density areas where you can be miles from the nearest viable internet connection or public charging station, and landmarks are poorly mapped because very few people see those maps let alone review them.

[@BlackPowderDoc]

A friend linked this to me, and I'll be the first to admit that I'm no architect, nor am I super-vested in AR/VR. Still, I was reminded of a line from (I believe) Jared Diamond where he said, "We are the first civilization to live amongst our own ruins" (or something to that effect), and a lot of the AR stuff highlighted, especially towards the second half of the video, felt like ways to paper over living within our own ruins without making meaningful change. Though I think the intent was to end on a hopeful note, I found it to be a warning.

[@southcoastinventors6583]

VR is fun distraction just like KZbin but at the end we still need to eat, sleep, and shelter from the elements so in the end how we do these things will change but the activities themselves won't. Also we not the first civilization to live in our ruins because our bodies themselves are vast ruins of decay like trees only a small part is actually dynamic.

[@zape4948]

¡Gracias!

[@TannerLyn]

Top two things I would use this for without causing the ick, 1. Using it to prototype things you want to actually create in the physical world. 2. Treating it like a spirit world, with strange creatures and magical interactions-leaning into the bizarre, unsettling, but at times fantastical feeling augmented reality gives. Like a trip into another dimension, for better or worse. Otherwise it's just going to be paint on rust, glitter on poop, lipstick on a pig

[@cooperrumph6868]

Or even for the repair of real things. A headset allowing you to see where that last little bolt is, or how much material you need. Where to cut. Such things could be very useful but always the moral problem rears it's ugly head...

[@MaticTheProto]

it won‘t happen anyway, chill

[@fableflows33]

bro inspired by avatar kora hahahahahahah

[@gargoyled_drake]

@@MaticTheProto It's already happening. Remember when people said _"it won't happen"_ or _"That's just science fiction"_ Literally about every technological advancement/evolution. Better to learn that nothing is static and everything is in motion. Than thinking what you experience now is gonna be for ever.

[@coreygrey8622]

I love Cooper's idea as for Tulare....dude just take magic mushrooms if that's the experience you want in life

[@billhart9832]

Dami, you are so much more than an architect; you're a dynamic multi-role presentation personality and this episode exemplifies that. Thank you for sharing your vision of a dynamic future. I'm preparing to move to the Netherlands in the next week or so for a 2 year assignment and in preparation I'm exploring the stories of expats like me ( US citizen, but non-resident for 24 years) considering making the move permanent. This after the "Aughts" in China and the last decade in Thailand but longing to return to Europe because that's where I felt the most "whole". The YT channel "Not Just Bikes" explores creating urban/suburban spaces that are people-centric and pushing car-centric design into the distbin of history. Mass-transit, cycling, pedestrian friendly social spaces. Thank for pulling it all together!

[@javajoe5124]

What I love about your channel is you question and ponder possible effects of new tech. It's honest and well thought out; thank you for all your content! Gradually, I have become convinced that dystopian novels are in fact non-fiction. Unfortunately, we seem to be overlooking all the negative affects warned about in these books, because we get caught up in the excitement of new tech. Technology is supposed to be a tool not a crutch and, honestly, we can barely walk as it is! Recently, my family experienced a power outage. The panic we all had about whether we could charge our phones, how we were going to keep ourselves busy without WIFI and the difficulty with communicating to each other was an eye opener. I can't see how VR will make this dependency any better. Humanity is quickly forgetting its place in objective reality. Wall-E here we come!

[@seekittycat]

Tech companies be like: At long last! We have created the Torment Nexus from the classic Sci-fi book "Do not create the Torment Nexus"

[@daniellapain1576]

As someone who works in both sides of the spectrum shown in the video. I think what's best is to focus on reality more. AR could be used as a helpful indicator of a property owners intentions for an area in different layers of use. Say an area is ok to start a community garden on. The owner registers a space as ok to use the space like this or a public park says you can plant there. For kids you can more easily designate safe to play zones. Not every space is obvious to how it's used in the public eye, so we end up with empty areas being underutilized and broad blanket laws that cover generalized areas on spaces that could be viable for the public to use. AR could allow the public to know if they can volunteer to certain projects without tracking down the owner and bugging them constantly. Make it so AR can help people as a tool to create paradise areas and educate the public. So when you take the machine off your head the world has been made better because of it. Geotagging in AR could also be used to showcase different peoples ideas for how a space could be designed in reality. Then if the property owners check the tags they can be inspired by some of them.

[@melanova5]

We could also simply use physical signs to designate areas, like "safe play area" or "feel free to plant things in this garden." I'm not familiar with geo-tagging, so I won't comment on that, that could potentially be useful. I think whatever convenience might come with AR will be burdened by the cons of late stage capitalism, i.e. targeted ads plastered everywhere unless you pay an ad-free subscription fee, a growing disconnection from reality, and decreasing attention spans/sensitivity as we seek further [over]stimulation to fill whatever void we feel in our lives. I definitely agree that we need to focus more on reality, but the novelty of AR will probably generate more interest 😮‍💨

[@timothyyambing6160]

I'm always reminded of Ghost in the Shell (and GitS: Stand Alone Complex). That series has been warning us of blurring VR, AR, AI, and technology with real life.

[@4G12]

Hello laughing man incidents...

[@iluvyunie]

@@4G12 my life is a laughing man incident

[@etherealicer]

I really like how they implemented it in Netflix's Anon.

[@Eat_shit--die_mad]

Ghost in the shell really inst a warning of anything it's a celebration of what's to come along with the potential dangers

[@timothyconrad5809]

What’s to come? how about actually flying and other superpowers. If you ever had a good psych trip.. WHEN you activate your pineal gland, You’ll know Reality is better than anything VR , AI etc. we DO have superpowers. Telepathy. Ability to levitate. Time travel etc. we are meant to actually turn Mother Earth back into a total comfy work of art. With no more wealth disparity. ALL this “faking it” will only perpetuate the current problems of humanity and the ails of the environment. Most ppl aren’t using more than 20% of their brains potential _ that alone tells you there are possibilities .. that all this and AI stuff is jumping the gun. I can foresee all sorts of problems, having done very little research. This video game crap is bad enough- ai is far worse. Ppl will turn into couch potato’s if they aren’t already/ health will deteriorate. I don’t care how comfy it is, It isn’t. It isn’t comfy to wear a mask, something with a. Strap. Pointless. When you vision already Can Be so good. You Can See holograms and a world so much more beautiful than any of this fakery. Again, a good shroom trip. Activate your pineal gland, and you’ll know. Another thing, “junk DNA” isn’t junk. It ties in with the Brains extra capacity fact.. tells you we Already have Natural abilities far greater than most know. And it’s not expensive. Wont take all that electricity etc. or water to cool servers. you can eyegaze with real ppl. Touch FR. Smell things. Why would you want a More fake vision, lacking senses and Love, When the whole world could be a free fair and luxurious playground. With real food, ppl, all the senses, flying, DMT, dopamine without a crash, without equipments and bills.. all this stuff is gonna self-destruct, especially ai.

[@pongop]

I love that Black Mirror episode! Another of your videos made me think of it. Great video!

[@soundtransgender]

I am a huge fan of your channel! I love how you share your knowledge and passion for architecture with your viewers. Your content is engaging and interesting, and I learn something new from your videos. I also appreciate how down-to-earth and relatable you are. You're not afraid to be yourself, making your videos more enjoyable. I especially love sharing your video uploads with my friends with similar interests. We always have a great time discussing your videos and learning from each other. Thank you for creating such a fantastic channel!

[@anyawillowfan]

As someone with a chronic illness who is mostly housebound, VR is very interesting to me, especially as a way to be a part of community spaces (such as a coffee shop/library) while being alone, but also being at home (as I'm not able to physically go to those places so miss out on the community feel). I've never really considered it being place specific (probably because I already can't go to those places, so for me I want the ability to experience other places and meet other people, all while staying at home), but it is interesting. As more and more people become chronically ill and trapped in their homes due to Covid (both Long Covid, and the lack of masking meaning vulnerable people are still in lock down), I obviously hope they put research in, but until then, make the world more accessible for the vulnerable, disabled, chronically ill people. Obviously I don't believe the world should just be virtual, but I hope we'll be considered as these virtual experiences become reality.

[@aliu292]

Vr chat has a lot of spaces like this!

[@bifrostengaged1371]

I'd rather have people not boot their "friends" just because "they became ill"

[@Instant_Nerf]

Covid ?

[@anyawillowfan]

@@Instant_Nerf What is your question regarding covid? Disabled people who are especially vulnerable to respiratory diseases are still having to live in permanent lock down because very few continue to mask. Covid also attacks the immune system so every time you catch it (even if you have no symptoms), it increases your risk of further infections (hence the increase of babies and elderly dying of influenza), as well as the chance of getting long covid (which can be post viral triggered disability, heart problems, or respiratory issues). What did I miss?

[@anyawillowfan]

@@bifrostengaged1371 True. But the reality is that's what happens. I don't think most people intentionally 'boot' their friends, but if you aren't able to go out and see them regularly, many will stop remembering that you can still message, etc, or simply decide you aren't worth the extra effort to stay in contact with (similar to the way people who move away often become estranged). And once you are confined to your home or your bed, it becomes very difficult to meet new people (thank goodness for the Internet).

[@shteen998]

The production value on these new videos is amazing!

[@earthlyng_official4599]

the depth of your thought on this subject is absolutely beautiful...

[@AB_anonhominid]

William Gibson's book 'Spook Country' uses the idea of locative technology (AR) to recreate the virtual deaths of celebrities as art installations. Not only the deaths but recreating the environment in time of each incident including buildings, technology, and fauna no longer existing. To think that you could through AR learn the history firsthand of a location by experiencing that place within a specific period of an significant spatial occurrence.

[@jeffravage3829]

Yet wouldn't those events and places basically be fiction? We have too tenuous of a grasp of reality as a society already. And what a great way to rewrite history.

[@jeffravage3829]

The perfection of societal manipulation. I was looking toward AR to help with work, but this video really brings home the fact that it'll just increase the separation of peopl3 from real8ty and increase the ability of elites to brainwash everyone.

[@WraithAllen]

@@jeffravage3829 Yup. Re-creations of history as, de facto, based on a combination of actual historical source information AND ASSUMPTIONS about the time and the event that may or may not be correct. Honest scholarship of history (or anything, really) states these assumptions up front so that they are subject to scrutiny.

[@mattrobson3603]

It's like the next step beyond the audio tours that historical sites often have.

[@jeffravage3829]

@@mattrobson3603 It's more powerful than that. And the impressiveness will tend to dampen further inquiry even more. Because it will be on EVERYTHING, not just historical sites. IMO

[@salahworx6963]

I am a Designer, Gamer and also have Experience in VR-Games. I can tell you playing the same type of game in VR is so much different. It puts me INTO the game and demands almost every aspect of my being (except thermal and smelling sense). It demands from my body to move in the digital space, to interact "physically". While playing games on a regular screen is just my mind transferring into the digital scene. My hands there are only a minimal method to give commands to the computer. If VR is being done right AND accessible, it is healthier for mind and body which allows to be more present withoneself in the virtuality.

[@diosdehuecomundo]

Tbh I'm legitimately scared of this. We're already so disconnected from each other that I feel like this could be the breaking point. Both VR and AR could be used in fascinating ways but the majority of humans tend to use technology for the less fascinating and more destructive ways.

[@Danuxsy]

religion and ideology already disconnected man long ago, nothing new under the sun.

[@StephenCoorlas]

It’s toxic, and technology is a parasite.

[@thesecondantagoniser4008]

Exactly. The Internet is a perfect example of this. It takes a high level of willpower to avoid using technology for destructive purposes, especially when your isolated from others. How much of the Internet is porn?

[@laartwork]

They said the same thing about books, the newspaper, cinema, television, video games, personal computers, cell phones. So just stop. I use VR to get together with my friends when I moved out of state. I watch movies in a virtual theater, play games. So it is the opposite of what you are thinking.

[@SeanHoltzman]

@@laartwork All the examples of tech advancements besides the last one you gave originally had interpersonal spaces dedicated to them to acquire and utilize the items with, that were, generally, extremely necessary for those utilizing them heavily. The main splitter and differentiator was the Internet/Cell Phone, which actually is the turning point from social-spaced to socially-isolated, and undermines your argument, because scientifically the lack of needed time and physical investment into social interactions and spaces the internet/cell phone shift caused has created a global public health crisis for phsysical, emotional, and psychological health....

[@rodolfopalaciosii7243]

Well I'm in love again! Keep it up you're doing great!

[@rjung_ch]

Not sure the world is ready for this. But it is interesting to see where this will be heading.

[@kissmyarse7501]

Have to agree. The world is nowhere near ready for this jump in technology.

[@esdeathTheEternal]

Suuuuuuuuuuurely nothing bad is gonna happen right?

[@raymondcasso7966]

Not VRChat, more like METAverse

[@eclipsewaves]

It's giving Horizon: Zero Dawn..

[@Zombina638]

Who is we? Most of us are

[@carriebartkowiak]

11:50 - We'd be missing Scent, Touch, Taste; but our brains *do* sub in the scent from memory. We don't actually smell it, but we remember the sensation of smelling it and how that made us feel, which in turn triggers those emotions again. (Like walking by a Cinnabon store for the first time...heaven, lol.) Touch could be replicated with thin, microfiber bluetooth haptic gloves. (Think those slick thin pieces of fabric you clean your glasses with. These could even be made to look fashionable; like driving gloves.) I really like your idea of enhancing what's already there, *if* there's a basis there to start from. Lots of urban and suburban places don't even have much basic greenery to build off of, sadly - probably the best we'd get in those places would be Google Glass' AR version of popping up a bubble to show you a missing road sign or telling you the hours of a store.

[@nightcoreeclub]

lets just give up on the real world and go digital bros

[@DCuerpoJr]

Working for a fire department, I can definitely see the benefit of augmented reality heads-up displays on our masks that allow us to use thermal imaging to find the seat of the fire in a building or to search for survivors. But I still don't see why anyone would want to use this in their personal lives, especially out in public - at least in their current format of headsets. And even if they become as small as eye glasses...let's be real, no one wants to wear corrective eye glasses if they don't need to.

[@jw7419]

I like the idea of it embellishing boring features to make them look more ornate, like the square concrete pillars being made to look like marble columns, but AR runs the risk of overwhelming people if it's overused, which it inevitably will do in my opinion

[@torianjallen]

You and your team have a gift, and I’m glad you’re sharing it with the world.

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Apple bias meta already has AR/VR headset plenty of better examples to show with decent use cases.

[@torianjallen]

@@southcoastinventors6583 huh?

[@laurelm.6851]

Love watching your videos. Giving me a lot to think about in my own personal life, and goals in the sense of being self reliant, as well as part of a community.

[@zenmushie]

This is a great video. So good! Appreciate your hard work.

[@DamiLeeArch]

Thank you!!

[@abeld94]

Sometimes i stop watching your videos, to accumulate and later on start a marathon watching them. I would say you are improving with each video. Also I find your voice relaxing. Much appreciated, keep going :)

[@henriquegduarte]

im just a business student from brazil but i wanna say that its just amazing how you link architecture with another subject in an interesting way that instigates your audience. love your work! thank you for bringing such interesting insights on this topic 🤗

[@YVO007]

Your beautiful if not naive to just how fearful the arrogant can be. "Not to worry Damilee". Good people, as I have witnessed you to be, even in these short videos, don't strictly practice leveraging malice to sustain a living image over others., or nor perceived power over those around us /you. We are a blind sided being, which needs our attention before potentially making things complex. In a directed educational tool however, it may be of some value. Thank you once again for your good work in KZbin production & narration. [e-mail]

[@MissElora]

Your KZbin channel is absolutely amazing! The content you create is both entertaining and informative,The production quality, creativity, and passion you put into your videos are evident in every frame. keeping me hooked with every video. Keep up the fantastic work, you're doing a fantastic job! 😊👍

[@sneakyfingersdevandle8164]

Dami can you make a tube that pumps liquid threw it so the effort of centrifugal force works... I think out of orbit having a rotating ring isn't enough but if it had liquid 2force an astronauts muscle to push against the current, our time in space could go from short term to living up there 😁

[@Denastus]

I love her presentation of various topics. I love how she doesn't overload you with information like most other content creators do. Mainly I love how she presents information in a story format. Edit: Your profile pic is also of Dami

[@JasenJohns]

Hi! Urban forester, here. Thank you for thinking about trees, however illusory trees definitely would not substitute physical trees' utility/services within the built environment (e.g. urban heat island mitigation, protecting/sheltering pedestrians from weather & motor vehicle traffic, stormwater management, particulate pollution interception, etc.) If anything, illusory trees would add a dystopian, experiential layer. Hyper-individualized, fantasy subjective experiences would divert so far from inter-subjectivity that people would become wholly unaware of just how environmentally degraded their surroundings had become... Or, you know, the palm trees in a desert mirage give no real shade from the sun; rather, only a delusion of shade and sunburnt confusion.

[@MichaelFrazierTube]

I love you so much for taking on this topic. Ive really come to trust you, your thoughtfulness and your insights.

[@kamu747]

Oh wow. Nicely explained. This concept of blending AR & VR with the environment was explored in the series: The Peripheral

[@jonathanp5125]

You are the best KZbinr around bar none. Your videos never cease to amaze me. My mind is always opened to new perspectives and knowledge when viewing your videos, and I'm utterly grateful for that!

[@DamiLeeArch]

Thank you 🙏

[@sincerefuller5399]

When you showed that picture of the people on the train wearing the VR headset. It reminds me of that episode on SpongeBob where everyone was mind controlled with that bucket they had on their head.

[@chikitabowow]

Honestly VR/AR sounds like a dystopian nightmare, the beauty of (actual) reality is that we already have vastly different impressions of it

[@Denastus]

As cool as Ready Player One as a concept is and as a fan of the book, I don't actually want a world anywhere close to that. And as someone that is in tech (in one way or another), I always tell people to stay as far away from devices that need to be connected to the internet to be used at all. Having a headset that is sandboxed in a way that can still be used when not connected to the internet is the ideal.

[@Novusod]

VR is one of those hair brained visions of future that like flying cars will never come to pass. The META verse is dead. Oculus rift flopped. The closest we every got to VR experience was Pokemon Go. But that was a unique phenomenon that is already in the past. That only reason it was successful was because it was shared experience.

[@adrianhartanto159]

trust me pour enough money inti something and the fact ads is a thing its 100% gonna happen @@Novusod

[@EnchantedTwilightGrove]

​@@Novusodlmao you litterally saying that from your own imagination you want to believe.

[@Stephanthecuteblondie2567]

​@@DenastusImpossible

[@racheal2004]

your guys videos have such an amazing quality ong

[@aproclis]

Hi Dami, there is a video game called "Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" that has some architecture with "augmentations" made to look like AR integrated directly onto their facades. I do have a video on my channel called "Augmented City" showing some of these buildings which may interest you.

[@Techstriker1]

A game called "Remember Me" also featured heavily with similar AR themes.

[@charger959]

Check out the anime Dennou Coil, the whole plot revolves around ar glasses and an entire city with digital features. Another anime involving ar is Fractale is more futuristic in that they use implants.

[@switchjim]

12:33 Fast food can sell plain white vegi-material in assorted shapes and various artificial flavors. The food will look so amazingly delicious with AR

[@galas455]

Every time I view your videos, you prompt me to consider topics within a particular framework I hadn't previously contemplated. This unique quality is what will truly distinguish your channel. Your exceptional articulation, Dami, greatly contributes to conveying a captivating narrative. So . . . yeah, I like your channel.

[@Chris.Castellon]

On minute 4:14 there is an image from a bus in Medellín. Awesome.

[@ticijevish]

Holy mackerel! She literally went outside and touched grass!! A living legend of our time!

[@mushie1221]

Gosh Dami, your content continue to blow me away. Thanks for everything that you do!

[@scyfox.]

I love your graphics, editing, masterfully delicate sountrack and overall information. I wish your videos get farther on other places. I'm definitely sharing this one!

[@KuyaQuatro]

Great vid. As a VR/XR enthusiast, I get a lot of pro-AR content so it was good to hear a more centralist pros-and-cons type of essay on this subject. There's actually an XR ethics committee that's trying to build guidelines for future ad practices & public xr experiences. One thing I would've like to have seen explored is shared virtual space. During the pandemic, VRChat and vritual parties/raves skyrocketed because it did well to replicate human presence for a simple event; enjoying music with other ppl. To this day, VR still affords many who don't have access to such events and spaces, thanks to the passionate virtual community. I imagine social AR/VR being interwoven with IRL events in ways that grant access in very real ways to ppl around the world. Like, you can be at the actual show in LA, but then also congregate at a theater in wisconsin and co-watch the show with other folks through your XR glasses as if you're there with the ppl in the room. Some of those ideas are expressed in this vid i did a while back about social xr kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZKah4qVbtlkaLM

[@river_byrd]

Love your artistic choices in your video! And thought-provoking content, most definitely. Nice one! ❤

[@blackryan5291]

0:21 - 🤣You are having a freaking blast over there on the left. Touché on that shot. 21 seconds in and i'm dead 😂

[@spaceangel6945]

The shared virtual space and communication, how is it like dancing? Social dance, like Ballroom and Latin dance, is a sharing of space and communication without words. I can dance with a total stranger, yet we can communicate nonverbally in such a precise way we can move around a room crowded with other dancers and all share a most beautiful experience as the music moves us.

[@KonamiKonami]

what is this awesome channel?! I am so glad youtube showed me this

[@AramisWyler]

Just want to note that by the time people are comfortable with the headsets, they may well be augments, like implanted contacts, or even direct mental feeds. If that is the case, we may smell the cedar we see, virtual or not.

[@pieterpuk7684]

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[@xaviersmith5154]

That sounds like heaven.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@xaviersmith5154tech does amazing things

[@thesincitymama]

For twenty years, I've been having dreams of floating holographic screens and interactive buttons hanging in my visual field. It shocked me when they came out with ipads, and then I started to see more of my dream technology in sci-fi movies like Avatar. Now I've lived long enough to see many of my dream things in real life! It's really weird that I dreamed about using this kind of tech before it ever existed. And it's really cool to think that I might get the chance to use this sort of stuff in my lifetime.

[@markgoproductions]

Your channel being sponsored by Wayfair is the most organic sponsorship relationship I've seen on this platform so far. Great content, sponsorship message included. :)

[@nightcoreeclub]

then go buy some stuff

[@TheOneLostkin]

I can't help but picture a world where the "haves" benefit from all this VR, paying subscriptions for their daily beauty. Meanwhile the "have nots" are left in a physical space that is even more neglected than it is now.

[@SirMikeys]

I am a frequent VR user. I play a game called VRChat, though it shouldn't be called a "game". It's a digital social place that people "go" to in VR. It is still relatively underground and niche, but know this: it is very much alive and has very strong cultures that are forming within the virtual world. There are communities and events and shows and people form meaningful connections. People fall in love with each other and make best friends with people from across the world. Some of the people there spend so much time and money that they do indeed begin to neglect their physical lives. Till this day, I am not sure if what VR is doing will be good or bad for society.. Mark my words: one day, VR headsets will become more compact and comfortable. Eye tracking, face tracking, and full-body tracking technology will become the norm. When that happens, I promise you, it will become mainstream and the world might begin to resemble the movie Ready Player One.

[@johndoeusa65]

Kind of weird question, but how misogynistic those communities are? I always thought of those communities as a toxic incel-ish, non-stop trolling places where the main goal is to troll and be “funny” instead of genuine connections.

[@jan_v_ier]

lets hope not.

[@SirMikeys]

@silence4682 that is not at all the case. That is only what you will see on the surface. The trolls only linger on the surface. Vrc is not at all misogynistic. Believing that VRC is full of trolls is a lot like believing that all people from New York are assholes simply because you stepped foot in Time Square.

[@cocoloco9276]

​​@@johndoeusa65i would suggest you look up "drumsy" to get an understanding of what goes on in VR Chat. He interviews random people and gets into some deep conversations about their real life experiences and why they chose VR Chat as a sort of escape from the ugliness of the real world.

[@zs9652]

​@@johndoeusa65Depends on what you consider mysoginistic really. VRChat is home to a lot of furries, trans people and anime lovers from my experience. So it really depends on your group and how you feel about the three groups that can pop up a lot.

[@fferiag]

Love it!! Great video, so well produced. You guys are getting really good at this. Congratulations! Have you considered creating media for education?

[@aliu292]

Great video, well researched, but I think when we focus on possibilities, we can sometimes miss important factors to consider. I have slight critiques of things I think you missed in your analysis. The idea that AR can improve poor neighborhoods is missing that fact that 1. These technologies aren't accessible to poor people 2. The only companies that are trying to make it accessible are doing it so they can create a new market where they hold a monopoly, which is very dystopian, you might be able to only see meta-approved projects. And another thing I would like to point out, it doesn't matter if virtual trees are cheaper, the role of trees aren't just for beautification, they are for clearing pollution, cooling cities, maintaining biodiversity, and providing shelters for animals, they also can improve road safety. The idea that we can place less trees and replace some with virtual ones should be unacceptable, it's not just about tactile touch. I know you aren't advocating for these things, I just think that this analysis would be more well-rounded. But like I said great video, keep it up!

[@johanwejedaldesign]

I´m so happy that I found your channel! You always provide such extremely interesting and intellectually inspiring content. This is really KZbin at is best!

[@dag6]

So glad I found this channel. Your content and presentation is amazing

[@edwardCYHsu]

I think you are very good at what you are doing! You are very talented.

[@NickRedmark]

I like Jordan Hall's civium idea: we'll go back to small-community living in nature, interconnected through one global digital city.

[@stischer47]

I need to look up a few SF stories that address this. Everyone has their own experience, but reality has been allowed to run down and become shabby because the AR world is always perfect.

[@jj-sc1kq]

Interesting thoughts about what the future might look like. Mentally, I'm stuck on the point at 12:42 where you are talking about you talk about what people would prefer. I can not tell that I would prefer the more ornate picture. As with anything else, if I was around it, it would be interesting the first time I see it. But after that it would be so many forgotten details.

[@jdzspace33]

I love how the first thing she does after talking about a perma-connected world for 10min is touch grass.

[@Dunham-wn4cy]

Limits are set by our fantasy, which means power of association. The more the better 2:17 could be the leading slogan but as masterly expressed by swedish director Bergman Persona, we could soon face an information overflow, reaching the no return point of possible combinations VR can offer.

[@anasershourmach5775]

The virtual world can easily give theories or ideas to learn, and on the other hand, for individuals or people, it may give a negative direction or The virtual world makes the realities of real life more fanciful or allows people to escape from the truth......

[@belkmaster]

I've really been enjoying your content. I like how you point out some possible solutions while also discussing the problems.

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

This entire idea sounds absolutely horrifying to me because someone somewhere with power, influence, and an agenda will have their hands on the controls.

[@szinyk]

They pretty much already do. Consider that everyone gets answers to questions from Google. A company with way too much power in Silicon Valley determining what people should and shouldn't think.

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

@@szinyk that’s why reading books is practically a punk thing to do now. It’s anti-establishment to read different ideas than social media provides.

[@jesus2639]

i cant see this technology catching on until its as easy and seamless as putting on shades and your in vr. like a chip you can attach to any pair of shades or glasses that reads your brain so you dont need surgery or bulky goofy vr glasses

[@chaseism]

I know there is a lot of negative feelings towards Big Tech, especially as we imagine a future through the lens of Black Mirror. But at the same time, I'm really interested to see what good could come from technology like this. I'm pumped for the possibilities of Apple's Vision Pro and I love how you've plotted out some ways these virtual and augmented realities could paint our future. I love the idea of enhancing what's already there, but not fully replacing it. I think we all still want the world, but filling in additional trees or plotting a mountain range in the background of your city would be cool. But would we run into a certain sadness when we took the glasses off? Kind of like folks felt after they saw Avatar and returned to our "boring" world. I dunno. Great video!

[@Denastus]

If you want black mirror vibes than look no further than the present day China with their social credit scores.

[@seattlegrrlie]

Having experiences with strangers has been shown to make you happier, kinder, less stressed. The idea that we're going to all hike in our own virtual world sounds horrific to me

[@disky01]

Jesus, how depressing would it be to know you live in a poor part of town because they replaced real trees on your street with augmented reality.

[@Lilith-bw9pq]

I've just drafted up a Psycho Thriller Movie plot in my mind within few minutes of watching it. 🥴

[@Matty002]

capitalism: technofeudalism edition. its crazy that so many people see VR as some solution to a real life problem instead of the scam it is. paying for a virtual fix instead of a real one makes the situation worse because instead of caring, the person becomes indifferent, when we need unification

[@danjager6200]

We just got VR and even as limited as it is, I adore it. It's an addicting experience going from one environment to another at the click of a button. My eyesight is a little below average, and the digital world is so crisp and clear that it's like being a kid again. I would love to change our home to be more VR and AR friendly as it would allow us to make a more efficient use of our limited space.

[@chuunyu]

As tantalizing as making a more accessible way to alter our environments seems, I don't think that AR is the way. There's still so much we can do to make the world better and more beautiful in reality, and I feel like AR is just a cheap way of getting there in a way that is not only more dangerous (because of monetization/capitalism) but hollow in its experience. Every time I've used VR, it's always felt hollow no matter how much my body tried to fill in the gaps or I tried to suspend disbelief. From a mental health perspective too, I feel like maybe there's a risk of a dissociative element in VR/AR experiences and as someone who struggles with dissociation/depersonalization, that's really terrifying.

[@jackydev8069]

The mirrored Alexanderplatz at 04:29 broke my head.

[@besteven]

Ready or not, we're going there, and my biggest wonder is whether or not this will further isolate people; while I also wonder if vicarious sharing (very limited, currently) could bridge the gap somehow.

[@potts995]

Probably a bit of both. Social media has made it easier for people to essentially create their own worlds and find communities they otherwise wouldn't have had access to before. VR and AR could exacerbate the effect.

[@williamtaylor6252]

This video got me to thinking about the utility of these VR tools is design and architecture. As a woodworker, I experience some anxiety over weather and idea I have for a custom piece for a room will work in real life. With VR I could take my models from the 3d software and super impose them In the actual space to get a feel for the finished look even before I start the actual build. Same with architecture. U can design structures and then actually walk around inside them finding potential problems to solve or improvements for the design before a single brick is laid.

[@VariiCorvid]

It could also be really useful in medical scenarios and integrated into powered respirators for field medics which would help with emergency coordination.

[@kristinebennett9428]

I don't want to live in a world of lies. I don't want to live in a world where reality is more expensive than theatre. (I say this as someone who absolutely loves theatre, and wants it to be more available to average people.) I don't really know how to articulate these feelings in an intelligent way, but there's just something sad to me about having to wear a computer in order to experience beauty.

[@halfwayvinny9786]

Anyone else captivated by her beauty as she talks so expressively? I honestly dont know how she produces some sounds with how she moves her mouth but even that is mesmerizing. Made me self conscious, not in a bad way, about how I dont move my mouth as much to pronounce the same words. All in all to say I came for the info, but stayed for the entire mind stimulating performance. Love your videos ❤

[@ramonaflowers5052]

This is such a great topic, I hope you make more videos about VR/AR. The tech is still in its infancy. The first smart phones were more expensive, and could do a fraction of what they can do today. The same is true of AR/VR. Once the price goes down, and capabilities and comfort increase I think it could create a new revolution in how we experience the world, especially once tools are made for non-technical artists to help shape shared spaces.

[@kyranex]

Thank you for your hard work !

[@ojooluwatimilehin6699]

Very thoughtful and quite detailed research…the future will no doubt be very interesting and the funny thing is it’s upon us. Revolution took decades in the past, AI makes it faster this days. A lot of your thought resonated with me as I am working on developing a lot in that aspect….there is a lot to learn by the way

[@nerdakash4920]

Interesting is the wrong word

[@nerdakash4920]

Interesting for a while

[@HyperactiveNeuron]

We are 💯% headed toward a Minority Report style AR-ad based experience. Companies have been playing around with AR for the last 15 years and everyone with a phone, "smart" or not is being tracked. Google serves up ads based on location and asks you for reviews for places you go and questions about items available, handicap access, etc. and Facebook tracks you even if you don't use their site or services. I absolutely agree that we are going to have a tiered, class based experience. It doesn't have to be like this but money talks and as long as the wealthy get to pick what they want with-respect-to everyone else. Things will only rocket in that direction. It's no different than me paying for KZbin premium, someone else paying for a VPN or a service like Delete Me and a person who can afford all of the above.

[@togerboy5396]

If we did this on a huge scale, it might lead to the western world collapsing as birth rates decline even faster than they already are. It would be great to see a video about population collapse and how it could affect the future of architecture.

[@andywellsglobaldomination]

I would argue it started happening around 2007, with the release of the first smart phone.

[@tweed.k]

... what? where did birth rate topic came from???

[@togerboy5396]

@@tweed.k The first comment answers your question. The better our technology seems to get, the lower birth rates become.

[@justforplaylists]

TBH, I think the birth rate decline has two factors: First, people putting more effort into fewer children. This isn't really a bad thing on its own, it brings us down from growth to stability. Second, though, is economic problems. A lot of people can't afford a stable enough lifestyle to have kids. I'd also add a third factor, which is media scaremongering making it seem worse than it is.

[@world_still_spins]

What mass media hogwash nonsense have people been fed these days? There is over 8 billion people on this planet, a balanced gradual/slow reduction in births would be a good thing. The population currently is in too much supply, causing low value and low demand for everyone. With the present stage of total development that humans have reached, we only have capacity for 5 to 7 billion people at most.

[@youremakingprogress144]

13:21 is the only thing we could count on augmented reality to provide, and far more than anyone would like.

[@josemanuelbarreraalba]

I guess the main question is ‘how do we stay connected (to humans and our humanity) while being “connected”? How do we integrate and make new, genuine, HUMAN, experiences?’ Thank you, Dami, for this thought-provoking video/conversation. Another outstanding video.

[@wajahatasim9696]

Exactly. Moreover, as designers, we must also realize the importance of tactile experience in architecture and the built environment. Humans have evolved because of the physical world around them. Be it tactile experience or visual, it is absolutely essential that human beings use their senses to experience the immediate world without the intervention of digital technology.

[@morphos2]

In my opinion, so far this is your best video yet. Very insightful with new ideas regarding the AR-Architecture relation. I loved specifically the idea of "filling the gaps". Despite thinking about AR for long I have never though of this complementary (maybe AI-powered automatic) and quick "fix" for the public cities spaces.

[@somedude3443]

Something about this video reminded me of Eddy Burback's "review" of the Apple Vision Pro, which was less of a review and more of a dive into how it was making him disconnect from the outside world. He was disengaged from his interactions with friends, losing his connection to nature, interacting with AI "people" who basically spouted everything he wanted to hear, and when he stopped wearing the headset, he would expect things from the AR/VR world (browser windows, videos, apps, etc) to show up in the real world, and was startled when they didn't. He was legitimately scared of what the Vision Pro was doing to him. I'm happy to see that the comment section of this video seems to share his sentiment

[@etienne2069]

The Matrix has you...

[@thomaswilson4127]

Think about all those adas, like we see ads all over internet popping in and out of over screens, image them poping literally every where we go and see 💀

[@tiortedrootsky]

More instant gratification, more detachment from reality, more mental illness. Bright future ahead.