Business Books are (mostly) Religious Propaganda

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@ceres090 Ай бұрын

I once had a manager who decided to "optimize the team" by making us take an MBTI test. So I looked up what personality type was listed as the best suited for my job and just lied on the test. The whole experience made me uncomfortable. The idea that my financial security hinged not on my performance, but if I passed a literal vibe test was upsetting and a bit insulting.

@UrgentlyFiring Ай бұрын

THIS

@coliv2 Ай бұрын

I did the same once I was required to participate on these BS activities organized by HR.

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Ай бұрын

Bahaha that’s great, glad you played a different game than what they wanted you to play

@naomistarlight6178 Ай бұрын

I heard they use those tests to discriminate because personality is not legally protected. When they do it out of the blue, they're probably looking to fire someone.

@halfsourlizard9319 Ай бұрын

Why would you want to work with idiots who believe in business astrology, full stop?!

@m.f.3347 Ай бұрын

most Americans aren't Mormon, but Mormonism is the most American religion

@samaraisnt Ай бұрын

It’s also the richest (5X the catholic church, they keep it hush to stay small bean). And I would argue most powerful/covertly influential. I think Most American ties with Scientology.

@Nohandleentered Ай бұрын

I thought that was capitalism

@jamesgoines4635 Ай бұрын

@@NohandleenteredSame thing

@NotTelling-p8v Ай бұрын

Hahaha great comment

@danielfleming9630 Ай бұрын

@@Nohandleenteredthe Mormon church is a capitalist empire, all you’ve gotta do is look into the trouble they’re getting into with the SEC

@jefcaine Ай бұрын

I used to work at a mega church and part of my disillusionment with Christianity came from the churches obsession with leadership conferences, entrepreneurship, and business self help books.

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make MERCHANDISE of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. Hosea 12:7 But no, the people are like crafty merchants selling from dishonest scales- they love to cheat. NLT

@chief_tobias_ Ай бұрын

@@jefcaine None of that is Christianity but secular people pretending to be Christian.

@haruhisuzumiya6650 Ай бұрын

Now that makes sense

@h.w.4482 Ай бұрын

@@haruhisuzumiya6650yeah that's kinda part and parcel of mega churches lol

@Najuni-iy7po Ай бұрын

And down south, ive seem so many church folk focused on wearing fancy clothing, when their God focuses more on the beauty of their heart, not their bank accounts

@sauerkrautlanguage Ай бұрын

You know i developed long ago this analogy that basically capitalist propaganda was a secularized version of religious dogmatism, replacing a perfect god with a perfect market, saints with enterpreneurs, the bible with econ101 textbooks etc. I did not expect my analogy to be THIS literal lmao

@arempy5836 Ай бұрын

What did you think the invisible hand of the market was attached to? That's right, you're pal JC.

@Shockguey Ай бұрын

Have you seen the Fallout show? "Reclamation Day" is basically the prophetic vision of the Vault Tec corporate family. And it's not far off that a Futuristic America would have literal corporations as factions. Much like how Demolition Man and Idiocracy predicted.

@chief_tobias_ Ай бұрын

@@sauerkrautlanguage Reject the simulacre of Capitalism, embrace religious tradition.

@verytalldude Ай бұрын

Surely you can do the same comparison gymnastics with whatever marxist system you'd prefer our economic system to run in bud Is the capitalism in the room with you?

@larissabrglum3856 Ай бұрын

@@arempy5836I've been saying for years that believing the "invisible hand" will solve everything is awfully similar to magical thinking

@kknip1643 Ай бұрын

Ex-evangelical who has been uncomfy w/self help since deconverting but i could never articulate why, all i could say was it "felt like preaching". Only to learn that they WERE preaching all along! Thank you so much for putting this video together!

@AA-iy4gm 15 күн бұрын

They always sounded MLM-y to me and people that claimed to love them seemed to be faking it, they probably were just like the MLM "employees".

@jethro0730 11 күн бұрын

Same here And life is profoundly simpler, Just got to do what we got to do..

@arbyswitch5580 2 ай бұрын

Damn i thought it was gonna be puritan work ethic stuff not more mormon propaganda So naive of me

@UrgentlyFiring 2 ай бұрын

lmao

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@naomistarlight6178 Ай бұрын

The more I learn about it, the less Mormonism seems that different from mainstream US Christianity (which is what I grew up in).

@arbyswitch5580 Ай бұрын

@@naomistarlight6178 there's definitely some language and attitudes that are the same across the board but there's definitely specific approaches that Mormons take in their practices. Also idk if polygamy is really a normal thing in mainstream US Christianity but perhaps I know nothing about it 🤷

@jeremybullen655 Ай бұрын

Protestant ethic

@Jigokucake-lg1xj Ай бұрын

Speaking as a Buddhist, the form of mindfulness pushed by corporations and such has frustratingly little to do with the actual Buddha-dharma and seems to be entirely secular. This is a pretty common feature among Buddhist practices and concepts that are separated from the Buddhist framework by outside parties. I kinda wish it actually was propaganda lol

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@naomistarlight6178 Ай бұрын

Yes, everything has been stripped of its spirituality. Mindfulness is supposed to get people to think about the eternal path of the spirit. It's about recognizing the flow of time and the inevitability of change. I couldn't imagine separating it as a practice from the beliefs of dharma, reincarnation, and liberation (nirvana). Plus, it means these mostly white "gurus" are taking credit for the work of Eastern Buddhists.

@joshipokemongiveaways5084 Ай бұрын

yo im a white stoner hippy whos hypnotised by capitalist propaganda, where would u recommend i start on the actual stuff?

@sararatliff7707 Ай бұрын

Agreed. I don't know much about the specifics of Buddhism and the different variations, I always saw that the corporate use of mindfulness was to try to keep their workforce calm enough that they don't see just how shitty the corporate overlords treat them. It's a fancy sedation tactic.

@jasonquigley2633 Ай бұрын

@@joshipokemongiveaways5084 a good start might be reading Buddhist influenced literature. Good examples might be the Chinese classic novels Journey to the west or the dream of the red chamber.

@Tysto Ай бұрын

Okay, but “don’t be evil” is a good business policy. I wish more companies followed it. Like even one company. Like the one company that had that as its motto.

@Grogeous_Maximus Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, a lot of suits don't have any real human values, and couldn't tell you what defines the term 'evil'.

@tacoaficionado Ай бұрын

Define "Evil" if you could

@Khemith_Demon_Hours Ай бұрын

"don't be evil" is meaningless without context and utterly worthless in the context of capitalism.

@soft6418 Ай бұрын

There’s no space for ethics in a competitive market

@TerribleTom113 Ай бұрын

Arizona Tea is the only major company I can think of that I can comfortably say isn't just flat out evil.

@CarolineIronwill Ай бұрын

OMGs! I just finished Robin Sharma's 5am Club. What absolute crap! There were no scientific references, just vague mentions. I have a degree in neuroscience, and there was so much inacuracy. I raged while I read. It was really just protestant work ethic virtue signalling. What about the 11pm club? Those of us who do our best work after everyone else has gone to bed? The 5am club was asleep 3 hours ago. Lightweights.

@Confucius_Says... Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣👍🏽

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@wolfumz Ай бұрын

I have always been this way, I really become alert, motivated, and focused after 3PM. I can't seem to change it, despite long periods of living and working at various schedules. I just love sitting down around sunset, focusing on something, and working without interruption into the night and early morning.

@AS-np3yq 5 күн бұрын

Thr protestant workethic started 400 years befor the reformation in catholic Florence, Pisa, Genua, Dutch Brügge and so on... ;)

@theowlyone Ай бұрын

Just commenting 5 minutes in, so I'm not sure if you'll also touch on this, but this also reminds me of the "Love Languages", which was a book also written by a Christian man with really no basis in scientific research whatsoever, and which has also made its way into pop psychology. For anyone interested in Mormonism I would recommend Alyssa Grenfell's channel and for Evangelical Christianity in general (and its lasting effects on US politics) I would highly recommend Fundie Fridays. And of course, Knowing Better's video on Mormonism too. This was such an interesting video, thank you!!

@UrgentlyFiring Ай бұрын

Funnily enough, it comes up at the end! Love Languages was one of the original books that got me down this rabbit hole. But since I'm an "economist" for a living, it didn't fit as well into the overall narrative of what I felt qualified to gripe about.

@larissabrglum3856 Ай бұрын

I've heard that there's a similar phenomenon with parenting books

@theowlyone Ай бұрын

@larissabrglum3856 oh my gosh yes, like "to train up a child" by the Pearls which just straight up advocates for child abuse. It's horrific. And then you have cases such as the Remnant Church with Gwen Shamblin-Lara's parenting advice AlLeDgEdLy leading to the death of a young child. It's heart breaking

@kezia8027 Ай бұрын

Fundie Fridays and Alyssa Grenfell are great! I second the recommendation!

@toweypat Ай бұрын

Very interesting!

@theowlyone Ай бұрын

Commenting again to say: I think this interestcs well with the widespread MLM "business opportunities" that run particularly rampant in Utah, and seem to in other religious communities too. The prosperity gospel and its iterations run DEEP in that space. It's interesting to me that most of these religious self help writers seem to be men, and most MLM "huns" are women, especially when considering the gender roles encouraged in most traditional Christian communities.

@Aaron.Thomas Ай бұрын

Yep

@EmonEconomist Ай бұрын

Was gonna say, I came across most of these "business"-type books/authors through Amway, so I think you're 100% right about the MLM connection. (Got out of that pretty quick, it definitely had the preachy vibes!)

@llynxfyre Ай бұрын

Correct. I have a family member in deep with mlms and business networking who hoards these books

@YouAreDreamingRightNow 4 күн бұрын

cause the mlm nuns were unleashed on women in the home

@mathewperring Ай бұрын

I had to read a Lencioni book at work. I clocked it for the nonsense it was straight away, while most of my colleagues thought it was great. I am non religious, and they were all Christian to varying levels. This now makes sense, as it comes from a common place.

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@jhanschoo Ай бұрын

There's something I intensely dislike about such genres of self-help that's also in line with Christianity as it manifests in the US. There's this theme of trying to fit yourself into a certain lifestyle and worldview and disregarding yourself without even first examining them. A title like "the seven habits of ..." already has that premise in its title. Whereas realistically what it seems gives you more utility would be to pay more attention to yourself and the nature of the material environment you are in that you have influence over and from there build toward something that actually works for you in a way some remote book author can never do.

@JohnM-sw4sc Ай бұрын

So write this book

@spdby Ай бұрын

I share the same feeling. I can't believe I found this video

@LoveEatingBricks Ай бұрын

Thank you for articulating it so brilliantly

@hothoneymustard 21 күн бұрын

Need a fork for this comment

@jjgems5909 Ай бұрын

As a Christian I 100 percent agree with your video. My sister and I have had this conversation before. What I realized is a lot of these self help business people have so much in common with a lot of mega church pastors, it’s almost become this religious experience. From the way they speak, their “conference’s”, retreats etc… It’s so bizarre. I think of Grant Cardone, who I didn’t know was a Scientologist until recently but if you watch him and Steven Furtick or even TD Jakes, idk who started it first honestly. It’s like asking what came first the chicken or the egg. They’re almost one in the same.

@d3nza482 Ай бұрын

17:47 You should look into those Utah numbers. The reason they're "doing so good" is because the index used is skewed towards lower (or no) taxes and against (or no) worker rights. Specifically, Utah is first cause it holds no.1 position in "NO Estate / Inheritance Tax Levied", Low "State Minimum Wage" and for being strongly anti-labor-union. The index is designed by American Legislative Exchange Council - a conservative lobbying organization, bringing together "conservative state legislators and private sector representatives who draft and share model legislation for distribution among state governments in the United States"... and in the rest of the world. THEY ARE VERY VERY BAD! Also, evil.

@DinosaurKing Ай бұрын

To be fair, he did say "Like, Utah hasn't maintained the strongest economy in America for 17 years straight by caring for individual people" so I feel like he's aware of where the numbers come from...

@IsaacIsaacIsaacson 3 күн бұрын

Amazing how many organisations are secretly religious and or conservative fronts ... almost like the topic of the video

@manicdisciple3884 Ай бұрын

We were required to do a whole class on 7 habits and I always thought there was something off about it. I never liked self-help esque books like this because they never felt grounded in reality and seemed to always have an agenda that I didn't conform to.

@benjiman7259 Ай бұрын

I remember reading Outliers for high school and being the only one who didn’t like it. I thought it was strange how it spent so much time talking about how “outliers” are a product of circumstance only to end with a very long rant about how his mother persevered through poverty and worked hard for her success and that I should do the same. It felt confused, but I found explaining that notion to my classmates difficult 😅 I love the insight that this contradiction derives directly from the same interpretation of Calvinistic pre-determinism that I was taught in high school history classes. The pervasiveness of these ideas kind of explains why my objections induced vacant, confused expressions from my classmates and how so many people read these books and manage to learn so little from them

@jaredcrane3845 Ай бұрын

I was mormon for 20 years and yes, this is all correct. Also I dunno how I went that long without knowing Covey was a Mormon too

@Aaron.Thomas Ай бұрын

I learned about Covey because he was mormon. I was Mormon in northern California by the way. I thought it was kind of common knowledge, mormons like to claim their own for celebrities.

@justcommenting4981 Ай бұрын

I listened to a bunch of guru management bs books. Awful. If Sun Tzu is like "try being sneaky." Every management book is like "make workers want to do a lot of work without paying them more 👍 "

@jamjox9922 Ай бұрын

I'm glad you mention Dr K. I feel like his work is honest, but also, he makes it a clear when something is his opinion, or when something is supoorted by studies. He also makes it clear when something is his experience or his experience with patients versus what the scientific consensus at odds. He gives so much free content, actual helpful content, not just long-form ads like other "free content, buy my course" creators. He's also honest at how has advantages, and how he tries to help, understanding that some people have such deep traumas, that a few videos won't always work. He also has a healthy community that tries to curb cult-like behavior even though there's plenty of jokes about it. His own community started pressing him about certain claims and he's always been transparent when something was widely criticized about him. Overall, he's one of very few "content creators" (He's actually got a medical degree) that I respect and financially supoort.

@aeseki Ай бұрын

I feel like push back is warranted here just cause the flavor is different doesn't mean it's not the same thing. Doctor K has literally said he wants to be the next depak chropra. That's like saying you want to be the next alternative health guru. Even if you're up front about whether ideology you're pushing. It's still bad/pseudoscientific information he's pushing. Especially when he tries to "demonstrate" diagnosing people with aravedic medicine (the Indian alt health thing he pushes that doesn't work).

@matejlieskovsky9625 Ай бұрын

There is a fine line between "here's a possibly useful way of thinking" and pseudoscience. I haven't seen much of Dr. K's work, but from what I've looked at he at least tries to be transparent about stuff and does not oppose science.

@minimumapature3361 Ай бұрын

What I get from dr K is that mental health and personality are very very very complex. And not to blindly believe in any one guide.

@vila777_ 19 күн бұрын

⁠@@aeseki faith is arguably a powerful healer. those who place a high value on their faith and religious practices have been shown to have lower levels of stress, anxiety, and depression. i’d say it’s likely because magical thinking can reduce anxious feelings around infinite possibilities and provide security in a guaranteed outcome, alongside the belief of loved ones not being truly gone after death. it’s a useful belief, not a logical one, but that does not change the very real impact it can have. it also can help with physical health; though it’s likely the placebo effect, it’s been observed that our faith in the treatment can influence to some degree the way we heal. no reason to go all the way and claim essential oils can cure cancer, but i see no problem with faith healing practices being provided alongside scientifically proven treatment.

@neoqwerty 11 күн бұрын

@@vila777_ Meh. I achieved the same thing with having a cat and some good fuckin' tea, and realizing Pascal's wager is bullshit and either there's a god that exists and is fair and I'll go where I deserve, there's a god that exists and is a prick and I'll be way the fuck away from the other pricks, we're all stuck in a wheel of death and birth, or there's nothing and I'll have lived and learned a great many things, who really knows, isn't that kind of exciting? People can do whatever they want but I see nothing faith can do that philosophy can't also do so long as you don't decide to pick a philosophy that gives you existential dread/crises.

@TheRealE.B. Ай бұрын

I'm going to coin the term "blueshirting": When you enroll your *gifted* children in kindergarten as early as possible based on the assumption that they will never develop good study and work habits unless they have the handicap of being younger than all of their peers.

@sigiligus 12 күн бұрын

Enrolling children in public schools is child abuse to begin with and no genuinely intellectually gifted person comes out better for it. You are a midwit. If you ever have children they will be midwits.

@whatthecatdraggedin8282 2 күн бұрын

Depending on your country I find blue shirting is just "Having a blue collar working class mom" and will likely result in a blue collar working teen.

@teuast Ай бұрын

once i was doing a field sales job and my boss made everyone read this book that was called something like "rhino energy" or something like that, and i was listening to it on audiobook on my bike ride to the office in the morning, and at one point literally out of nowhere this mf drops pascal's wager like it's legit helpful life advice i literally turned around, biked home, and never talked to them again

@NetherDescend Ай бұрын

Field sales is kinda like that from what I remember, lmao

@teuast Ай бұрын

@@NetherDescend exactly one of the reasons i was so glad to gtfo

@cevcena6692 Ай бұрын

You quit your job over Pascal's wager?

@teuast Ай бұрын

@@cevcena6692 no, i quit my job over the combination of 1. already not having a good time and 2. they were proselytizing to me in required reading, and not even with good arguments.

@budbutterson9577 Ай бұрын

@@cevcena6692It was either that or have a 50/50 chance of having a normal job or a really bad job

@SeveralGhost Ай бұрын

They made me take a class called "Leadership 101" which was basically giving us a score based on how well we internalized "7 habits" and "Paradigms & Principles". It was for kids that had fully disengaged with school and it only made things worse 😂

@dreusmire Ай бұрын

Oh shit lol I forgot I had that class too, I vandalized the desks lol

@bennycarter5249 Ай бұрын

The honest but shameless rent-seeking with affliliate links had me in tears. xD

@derionwahyuni 2 ай бұрын

I never realized about this before. I have read tons of 'self-improvement' books, I thought the authors were legit. But, man.. Thanks for the insight.

@UrgentlyFiring 2 ай бұрын

Same here. And don't get me wrong, a lot of self-improvement advice IS solid. I don't want to fall into the academia trap of thinking that something isn't valuable just because it's not peer-reviewed or universally replicable. But I did a lot of work on the economics of religious movements in the past. So I started to notice patterns where a lot of my business books were being financed by overtly religious organizations that were making millions off converting the success of books into selling courses. Which isn't INHERENTLY bad, but definitely started to feel sleezy to me the more I looked into it.

@Dante-ki4ol Ай бұрын

*How to Win Friends And Influence People* is a recipe book for Psychopathy. Charles Manson used the book to create his cult.

@coliv2 Ай бұрын

@@UrgentlyFiring I think you have the causes and consequence reversed. It is because of their influence in religious groups that they become best sellers, then the cycle reinforces itself. A lot of these religious movements also have influence in things like Amway, which also feed into book sales. An example is the "rich dad" guy whose sales come mainly from network marketing groups, many of them starting from religious groups.

@Muhammad-HarDick Ай бұрын

@@Dante-ki4ol it's in my shelf for a long time, now I'm gonna read it.

@ultimateidiot2344 Ай бұрын

@@Dante-ki4ol Wow i was needing a book to help me create my cult! thanks for the recommendation!!!

@trentlytle7289 Ай бұрын

I see great similarity in modern "selfie-style" advertisements and Mormon testimonies of faith. Listening to a Hello Fresh ad reminds me of Fast and Testimony meetings.

@ajbXYZcool Ай бұрын

Huh! I'm a member, and I never considered there being any similarities between the two. Certainly something to think about.

@trentlytle7289 Ай бұрын

@ajbXYZcool if you think about someone offering a cookie-cutter testimony, their sentences usually end in downward inflections. The last word is usually a lower pitch than the rest of the sentence. That is specifically what I notice most.

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@larissabrglum3856 Ай бұрын

@@trentlytle7289Now that you mention it, I think you're right

@wmd40 Ай бұрын

they made us read 7 Habits in rehab. i hated it so much. i never realized it was actually Christian but I'm not shocked. it's even funnier because this rehab was "secular" and "private" despite pushing this stuff and taking public funds.

@Allotedline Ай бұрын

I love the irony of getting rich off of religion and yet Christ and His disciples didn't even always have a place to stay. The love of money is the roots of all kinds of evil. That being said, I could understand why many think Mormonism and Christianity are the same, but it's radically different. To call them Christian is like saying a Buddhist is Hindu because he meditates 😅 really well made and informational video nonetheless

@Dante-ki4ol Ай бұрын

Religion itself is a lie, with all claims of morality immediately eliminated by that lie.

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@wwirelesswwizard Ай бұрын

I absolutely agree. Not to mention that, at one point in the Bible, Jesus sees money lenders doing business in the Temple, and he literally (and very angrily) chases them out with a whip, lmao.

@neoqwerty 11 күн бұрын

@@wwirelesswwizard You forgot he flipped a table first, man precedes (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ by like 2000 years, he should be recognized as the trope codifier.

@YouAreDreamingRightNow 4 күн бұрын

@@wwirelesswwizard they weren't actually money lenders they were murdering animals in the temples back then. mistranslation.

@erinrising2799 Ай бұрын

10:30 As a Trekkie "red-shirting" your kids sounds really bad

@arianbyw3819 Ай бұрын

These books are mostly american, and America seems to monetise everything, so no surprise really.

@MlleJulliette Ай бұрын

I was Mormon when I attended a Catholic high school in Canada. We read “The 7 Habits of Highly-Effective Teens” and there was this whole curriculum that went with it. 🙃 So I was like 7 layers deep into cults.

@NotFeelingBlauw Күн бұрын

I recently opened my copy of '7 habits of highly effective teens" and the first thing I saw was the author writing about his mormon upbringing. It's so weird because my parents raised me as an atheist/secular, my aunt who gave me the book is raising her kids the same exact way. But she's big into self help/career books, so now I understand better why she would give me a book like that

@aabcc Ай бұрын

I work in a library and I love videos like this, since I'll never get the chance to do my own deep dive into the types of books I see every day. I always thought these types of books were wacky and tended to overgeneralize a lot of complicated concepts, but I certainly did not expect them to be so deeply rooted in religion. Good video!

@silverroxen2954 Ай бұрын

Another way to do this is to listen to the podcast "If Books Could Kill".

@Ridcally Ай бұрын

I just wish authors did not pick one study from 50 years ago to support their thought and call it science. Also I would not be opposed to being send on a free trip for whatever reason....

@UrgentlyFiring Ай бұрын

Haha Younger adult me felt the same! But now that I have a job where I travel 6+ weeks out of the year just for work, I'm mostly looking to stay home any chance I get.

@GregFreed Ай бұрын

you shocked me by quoting that Utah had one of the best economic outlooks. I had to go look up where the rating came from: ALEC, a ridiculously biased organization.

@MissMovies29 Ай бұрын

I don’t understand how redshirting would help your child excel academically. Whether they are 4 or 5 they are still being taught the same thing in kindergarten. They might grasp the concepts faster but they aren’t unlocking extra information. Sports I could see an advantage but also why do you want your kid demolishing a bunch of younger children lol

@Luumus 21 күн бұрын

because people put their self-worth in their children's accomplishments

@LDrosophila 11 күн бұрын

My 10 year old kindergarten totally dominates on the playground.

@neoqwerty 11 күн бұрын

@@LDrosophila Mr. Principal can you please stop letting your entire kindergarten from the staff to the pupils occupy the neighborhood playground like you're siegeing the swingset, I don't think you can win this attrition war against the playground structure and the HOA is getting ready to march.

@YouAreDreamingRightNow 4 күн бұрын

@@LDrosophila 🤣🤣🤣

@glib4233 20 күн бұрын

Everyone can exploit the same cognitive vulnerabilities and laziness, not just religions, and there's no money in fighting bullshit. I guess we should be thankful for the amount of rationality still achieved in these conditions.

@lmnop29 Ай бұрын

My high school gave us all copies of the "7 Highly Effective Habits" and while there was definitely some helpful ideas in there, it wasn't worth whatever they charged my underfunded public school for it.

@Nassifeh Ай бұрын

I don't think these things are scientific, but I do think there's a thing with self-help books and the way humans tend to work, where the actual book doesn't need to be proven--it can do good if it just gets you in the right headspace to get stuff done, right? But then all the books that are out there are written by people I don't want to support, with undertones that are extremely unfriendly to people like me on multiple levels. So... who do those of us who are in those groups look to for that same motivation? I wonder a lot about whether particularly the queer/trans community is doing worse economically because we're so systematically excluded from these spaces. Like when we get disheartened and burned out, the resources out there don't feel like they're for marginalized poeple. It makes the world feel so exhausting in a way that able cishet white male colleagues never seem to have to deal with. I would so much *rather* this was astrology-based, at least that feels less like a setup that is specifically intended to advantage a particular kind of person who was already systemically privileged.

@Squiddified83 27 күн бұрын

I can sort of relate to this as a woman who has read a TON of these self-help books. Never any mention of dealing with sexism or the challenges of success when you're caring for children. And even the books that look on their face to be about whole-life empowerment vs financial success, the examples are always, always, professional, educated men who made themselves rich. There is only one paradigm for success and it leaves out a lot of people.

@camwoz5181 2 ай бұрын

4 Minutes in -- then you do the intro? I'm genuinely impressed that you captivated my attention for that long and kinda surprised you have under a million subs. One quick thing though, maybe also cite your sources in the description. Some of the Mormon stuff is so wacky, I need proof they actually believe that or at least for the quantitive info like how much things cost and where you got that. Can't wait to see more!

@CarolineIronwill Ай бұрын

Yeah, this channel is really under rated. I found him when his channel was brand new.

@samaraisnt Ай бұрын

Of all the studies and info he cites you need him to cite the religious stuff..? The clear citation will be in their bible lol…that’s like needing a citation every time you say christians believe in Adam & Eve. You could just look it up…I guarantee there’s nothing too wacky 😅 he cited well.

@samaraisnt Ай бұрын

nothing too wacky *for them to believe! not that they’re normal…didn’t come across correctly. They also believe black and brown people were cursed with darkness and they turn white in heaven as a reward ;)

@camwoz5181 Ай бұрын

@@samaraisnt I am atheist, and I find it amusing, so yeah. A lot of times beliefs get misrepresented. An all knowing invisible man in the sky is strange to believe in the first place, but let's say "72 virgins in heaven" rumor for muslims that ended up being a rumor that came out of nowhere as an example. A distinction between xenophobic depictions and actual beliefs. I could "look it up"-- but you can find confirmations for basically anything. If you make a claim, then citing a credible source is reasonable. The author already did the research, and it would be nice to see the sources, plus I also asked statistics sources too. Nothing personal, but a guy on youtube can make a video about anything.

@MC-ki9zn Ай бұрын

here'a a quick reference from an LDS president. "As man now is, God once was: As God now is, man may be". Lorenzo Snow. The issue with the LDS church specifically is they love to claim their views are being misrepresented when they actually aren't. It keeps people deeply entrenched in the cult when they can manipulate whats seen as "actual beliefs". As a former member, i love how straightforward it is. Youll get a lot of members quick to say "no thats not what we teach" when yes it was/is. I agree he couldve provided a source like my quote but i also appreciate how blatant he was personally.

@maryjohnson9337 Ай бұрын

I’m curious how mindfulness is the same as astrology. Isn’t it just the idea of being aware of your internal motivations, or making an effort to be present in what you’re doing?

@subfuscous987 Ай бұрын

there are a lot of grifters and others using the term in more specific ways, but yeah that is one definition. here he's describing these books and what they're presenting and they often use terms like 'mindfulness' but even if they define them properly, it's in this correlation to that larger picture the books hold. so it's not necessarily just any individual term or idea (though some of the ideas can be p bad) but the framework and context around them and how they are arranged to lead to certain perspectives.

@zesky6654 Ай бұрын

It is, basically it originally was meant as a way to help people shed earthly bs, so thay could more easily focus on spiritual/philosophical pursuits. You can also use it to help you with a lot of other things. The people preaching it as a "productivity" hack don't really understand what it is or why it works, so most of the people learning it from them will come to the conclusion that it is vapid nonsense.

@PhilHoggart Ай бұрын

It's a muddled argument but then the way the term is used is also muddled. Mindfulness as therapy has a solid evidence based for some conditions and - speaking as a Buddhist - is almost entirely shorn of its spiritual dimension, to the extent that the religious practice and secular are different practices. What the hell mindfulness is business means I've no idea but it is definitely a grifter term. While the term derives from Buddhist practices there's a fundamental difference between someone trying to push Mormonism via 7 Habits and someone lifting a trendy term from the psych literature. No one is trying to sneak Buddhism into corporate America by the back door, the two frames are a total odds.

@camillesemaan7325 Ай бұрын

Mindfulness in business is used to make employees internalize their displeasure/dissatisfaction by making it company culture to appear serene/at peace. The goal is to make any grievances a you problem.

@agreeableWitch Ай бұрын

@@camillesemaan7325 which is SO frustrating, because as a therapy technique, mindfulness is all about EXTERNALIZING. The purpose is to be able to separate yourself from your immediate thoughts and feelings, feel present and observe while letting yourself feel all kinds of emotions, and change the way you do things so you are making intentional choices. It's about letting your emotions and sensations flow over you, but not being overwhelmed or taking on responsibility or guilt that doesn't need to exist. And yet so many of these self help books sell it as something you do to SWALLOW your negative feelings and hide them away. They are quite literally using therapy speak to make people less mentally well. Kills me

@ChristopherWaddelow 15 күн бұрын

I DID NOT KNOW Gladwell was part of the mennonites. This may explain why I always found him to be such a weirdo. Something seemed off about his base assumptions. Also great to hear such a well researched video where you clarify where your opinions end and begin, while just citing the facts as you know them to be. I wish more KZbin videos were of this quality! Also I am largely a part of a community that is attempting to prove MBTI or Jungian typology, but dang, it is not science at this point and may never be. More people need to know this.

@andrewevenson2657 4 күн бұрын

I’ve always hated the Myers briggs not because there is anything wrong with a personality test, but because of its absurd popularity and what people think it is. I don’t know how it went to mainstream that everyone and their mothers knows their letters and genuinely believe it’s science.

@VioletRM 17 күн бұрын

When i was in middle school, my first class every day was a seminar-style intensive on the 7 Habits and it always rung my bullsh!t detectors. Its nice to see theres an actual reason why it felt off

@Unknown_Pie Ай бұрын

I had to read Lencioni for an interview once. I spent 30 minutes explaining why it was bullshit business AND writing. I didn't get the job, but have no regrets.

@ione.stealingyourbaloney Ай бұрын

I had to read "the 6 most important decisions you'll ever make" in middle school and ive harbored so much anger toward stephen covey ever since

@lightyear3429 6 күн бұрын

Why? What was about that book that angered you?

@freckledandred Ай бұрын

This big issue is that people in wealth truly believe that they earned it, even Taylor Swift, my most favorite billionaire in the world thinks she “masterminded” her way to the top but truly, wealth is a social lottery, anyone can get it (it helps when you’re born into it) but there is no way you become a millionaire if you follow any step by step program, you’re either lucky or you’re not. You’re not chosen, you’re just lucky

@tconnolly1tc 2 ай бұрын

It's easy to write off all these gurus as charlatans who are solely in it for the grift, but I'm sure many of them believe in God and believe they're doing the right thing.

@UrgentlyFiring 2 ай бұрын

I 100% agree!

@coliv2 Ай бұрын

They may believe, but are charlatans.

@matthewsmith9640 Ай бұрын

Anyone who can, in good faith, reconcile profiteering with their idea of God doesn't actually believe in God, but some other being not worthy of the name.

@windy1267 Ай бұрын

You would starting seething if someone told you who really owned these companies. Not Christians. lol

@Dante-ki4ol Ай бұрын

Being religious requires dishonesty automatically.

@ricovelas Ай бұрын

I had a ego-maniac supervisor in the military who was a MBTI enthusiast. He used it to run his “social” experiments on my team. During the time I didn’t see it but looking back, yeah weird AF.

@cevcena6692 Ай бұрын

What would he do?

@theavalanchman Ай бұрын

lol. In the army I found that every platoon had a compulsive liar. I would arrange to have two liars from two platoons share a vehicle and see what happens. Results were hilarious. Lol

@TigerLilly4495 6 күн бұрын

When i was in middle school they made us read and study the 7 Habits for highly effective teens book every morning. I remember to us it was kind of a joke. It did introduce me to the word "proactive" though 😬 Also I was raised LDS and knew the guy was also LDS, but never realized how much of his books were just disguised church teachings...looking back now when Covey is trying to teach teens about being smart about sex, it sounds exactly like the law of chastity lessons we got at church 🤦‍♀️ I wonder how much money Covey made at my school alone? Thats like 700 books they had to buy alone....

@Konarali 2 ай бұрын

Christian here, thanks for this video. I read my fair share of business books and I often get the sense that the author might be Christian based on analogies and things they say. In some cases, they out themselves at the end of the book, which I think is good practice. I do agree that it's not a smart move to upfront say hey I'm Christian if your target market is the general public. If what needs to be shared can be generally applied to anyone, why make it hard for yourself? That said as an insider I do think some Christian authors will hope that through the book readers might dig deeper and through the author come to Jesus - it's not forced though. If the book doesn't help people, that plan kinda fails. Anyway really appreciated the video and looks like you have some other interesting topics so you earned yourself a new subscriber!

@UrgentlyFiring 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for watching and the thoughtful response! I really do appreciate it.

@yippieskippy2971 12 күн бұрын

I feel like I'm getting to see what life in the 17th century was like with religious oligarchy as the dominant vector globally.

@nicholaswoollhead6830 Ай бұрын

If you like this video, you will really like the podcast If Books Could Kill. They have very much the same vibe, humor, topics, and insightful critiques, but cover more than business books.

@Squiddified83 27 күн бұрын

I just listened to the one on "Who Moved My Cheese?" and it slayed me. It's so deeply satisfying to hear intelligent takedowns of things you know are BS.

@coliv2 Ай бұрын

I always knew these "7 habits" were BS, but now I know why.

@TikkunFiat Ай бұрын

It is not. You have to be an idiot to think it is

@JamesDenman-m9m 11 күн бұрын

This is why we need academics to get into journalism.

@TravellerZasha Ай бұрын

Having BPD the main treatment I do for it, DBT has mindfulness and is based of Buddhism and Hindu ideologies. Having Buddhism religious trauma it was and is a hard thing for me to separate my therapy from my religious trauma.

@Black_pearl_adrift 2 ай бұрын

Okay the tittle and the thesis hooked me. Gots to see this through my boy

@Obylearns 2 ай бұрын

For real bro

@Error403HRD Ай бұрын

As a fellow aries, it is so funny to watch people try to twist my quiet, shy personality into the mold they expect 😂

@Runenut Ай бұрын

never been into self-help stuff. it can obviously be quite helpful; it’s the packaged, self-assured nature of a lot of these books that puts me off. this is especially exacerbated when one sees how it is used to push management strategies or employee expectations. wisdom is fantastic. sharing said wisdom with others is imperative for a decent society. this type of self-help is fine by me. the rest, all that which tries to be the next big thing, that tries to revolutionize corporate culture and all that noise, can pound sand.

@occamsshavecream4541 Ай бұрын

In the 90s my employer became indoctrinated with Covey, complete with the MBTI test and pressuring. It was one of the reasons I left. It's as though no one ever had common sense until Covey existed. They're all rackets.

@Merdragoon Ай бұрын

Edit: I found the book we actually read by the same guy. "7 Habits of Hightly Effective Teens" was the book. As I remember the cover too damn well. It took me a bit but I found it. That moment when I realized my Catholic Middle School was duped to having us reading Mormon Prondagana as a summer reading thing... The 7 Habits of Hightly effective people was one we literally read (I thought there was a kid one for us middle schoolers but I can't seem to find it, and it wasn't the family one) for the summer and we had to write down what we learned. It haunted me for years after because I'm like "how the hell are we even going to apply these" and then the words started to haunt me even in the work place and internet.... Now learning that it was Mormon.... makes it all the more sense on why it perminated.

@Tonia682 Ай бұрын

I taught at a Leader in Me Lighthouse school for 10 years . Your video justified my feelings that the program had religious principles but at the time couldn’t put my finger on it. Everything you said about LIM was on point!

@AZsunflower Ай бұрын

How did you teach something for ten years we without knowing the basis of what you we are teaching?

@Tonia682 Ай бұрын

We were trained to teach the materials that were presented. I found nothing objectionable about the material, there were good life skills taught. I didn’t know Covey’s religious background but looking back I can see that influence.

@AZsunflower Ай бұрын

@Tonia682 Thank you for your response. Makes sense.

@Jason-ue7gi Ай бұрын

I'm a teacher at a Leader In Me/Lighthouse school (ugh) and I basically wrote the whole 7 Habits section of this video in the back of my '7 Habits' work-mandated workbook. I believe we spent 63 thousand dollars on the LIM curriculum.

@EmL-kg5gn 7 күн бұрын

I grew up in a cult (evangelical, thankfully outside the US so it wasn’t as bad). No wonder this stuff always freaked me out 😭😭😭 Life’s actually so simple as long as you follow what I tell you 😀

@rivierasperduto7926 13 күн бұрын

I remember I was forced to read the 7 habits in high school. I hated it and felt like it was bullshit. Glad to know I'm not alone.

@lukesmith1818 13 күн бұрын

I had lots of people preach the gospel of gladwell, read outliers and when he started waffling about rice paddies I realized that it was total nonsense. I worked for a corporation where all the managers were wasps into this weird toxic positivity stuff and they also made us do predictive index. As a brit I had no patience with this and called out the horoscope undertones which didn't win me any friends. Most of these books are for people too intellectually lazy to read things that actually challenge their worldview

@Football__Junkie 4 күн бұрын

Most of popular nonfiction authors of the last 20-30 years have some sort of financial backing pushing their message into the world. The amount of people that prop up Morgan Housel is confusing for me. His books have nothing interesting or new.

@pbfudge91 Ай бұрын

i'm only partway through this, but hearing about these books made me think about The Artist's Way, where everyone was ranting about it at one point and then I found out when actually looking into it that it's religious in nature and got sad about it because it felt a little sneaky.

@pbbbtttt8185 Ай бұрын

i'm unsure if he is still a practicing christian, but jordan peterson is very guilty of this. drives me up the wall

@edwarddow9263 Ай бұрын

He's not (i think, thiugh hea very hard to find an answer from so i could be wrong), and I don't think he has been. He actually kind of does the opposite, which is try package his psychology and sociology into a christian-ish appearance so thay he can continue to appeal to the religious right wing.

@tinaperez7393 Ай бұрын

He says he doesn't go to church. So I'm not sure how religious he is. But he definitely doesn't admit his very conservative and sexist bordering on misogynistic biases. He very often pushes his agenda and claims credibility and authority from saying "studies show" and knows no one will question him because HARVARD CLINICAL ACADEMIC PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR. He often just uses his credentials to get people to assume what he says is true and science based - when it isn't and he knows people will take his word for it. Most people - which is enough.

@dfj232 Ай бұрын

5:20 the altar of Neoliberalism

@Andriak2 Ай бұрын

frfr

@jamiepotts6102 13 күн бұрын

I really appreciate this video. I was raised Mormon, so I find information like this really interesting. It seems every week I'm learning about some new, crazy/heinous shit my childhood religion has done/encouraged

@CraftyArts 11 күн бұрын

I grew up with this being a child of the 90s. A lot of religious radio shows were 90% about managing finances and 10% god. Logic of course is help your superstitious believers get richer and they donate more of their hard earned money to the tax exempt ra2e factories

@rockrocks66 Ай бұрын

As someone who has been Christian, then atheist, then Christian again, I am not convinced that the conclusions of a given religion are useful or even believable when divorced from the fundamentals and community aspect of that religion. For example, given how crappy the world and people often are, it is hard for me to believe that the universe if fundamentally good without believing in a benevolent creator, or that "crime doesn't pay" without believing in divine judgement. I wonder if that applies to other religions and daily life advice derived from them.

@thoughtlesskills Ай бұрын

The universe just exists. Good/evil is a human construct relative to current beliefs. We used to think human sacrifice was good. Btw, crime absolutely pays, often better than legal work.

@allsouls5997 Ай бұрын

@naomistarlight6178 Ай бұрын

Crime doesn't pay because secular authorities are there to make sure it doesn't? Doesn't have anything to do with religion. The state authority in "godless" China or North Korea also makes it so that crime doesn't pay there. You'll eventually get caught and face consequences based on what society you're in. That's true of all humans regardless of religion or lack thereof. People generally don't want theft or violence and work to prevent and punish it collectively.

@rockrocks66 Ай бұрын

@@naomistarlight6178 True, and I wonder if a lack of religion means that more government (laws, police, taxes, regulations) will be required because fewer people willingly choose to refrain from bad behavior due to religious reasons. There are costs and benefits to everything, and I'm not sure that "I'll do anything I can get away with" is a good ethos to build a society upon.

@Nassifeh Ай бұрын

@@rockrocks66 But was anybody actually choosing to refrain from bad behavior due to religious reasons? Like I think if you look at the history of the church, you did have one population of people for whom this was true. But then you had another population of people who saw the lack of actual regulation and then did the thing *because* everybody else assumed it wasn't going to happen. Churches have been hotbeds of sexual abuse for a reason. But beyond that, dear god a lot of churches have had problems with members financially grifting each other, men beating their wives, parents neglecting their children, you name it. Lots of people have exploited the trust of those systems to do massive amounts of harm. And atheists also... mostly don't avoid hurting people because of consequences? People *collectively* avoid harming each other because we have social bonds, not because of religion. Do you actually go around thinking that you'd love to murder people if only God didn't say it was bad? Of course not. But the exceptions are something that religion can't deal with, because by and large those people don't care about God any more than they care about you. That's why we do, in fact, need laws for all this stuff.

@qwinlyn 9 күн бұрын

One of my college professors made us read Outliers in class and I immediately hated it. The idea that the month I was born dictated how well I’d do in life just felt so bogus to me, and I could never articulate *why* but as soon as you started comparing it to astrology I got it. Thanks. Now I have an answer to one of those itching questions in the back of my head.

@wreaverfizzlefen3234 Ай бұрын

Well the algorithm did good this time. Great video and glad I found it. ETA: Here in Florida we're seeing social sciences classes and departments under serious threat in our state schools, and this video is a case study in why those courses are so important and vital in a complete education.

@Khaldunii 15 күн бұрын

If popular business frameworks are just ‘religious propaganda,’ then what makes the secular, so-called ‘scientific’ frameworks you defend any less rooted in ideology or power-driven motives? The question isn’t whether a framework is ‘scientific’ or ‘religious’ but how it serves power and shapes human lives.

@АринаБогоед 2 ай бұрын

This is a great video and I don't understand how can it be so underrated.

@shreklovebeans433 15 күн бұрын

That's exactly what I thought of when I was reading 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson, as a modern self-help book that is widely popularized and a common thing on your bookshelf, you wouldn't expect it to be a bad rip-off of the bible. Where he literally talks all the time about the old time biblical stories.

@supaflyza 14 күн бұрын

I grew up conservative Christian in southern Africa. The influence of American evangelical Chri$tianity in Africa is both impressive and alarming. This includes a significant influence on business culture and corporate leasershop principles in SADC countries. In the 80s the prosperity gospel took off in Africa and that seemed to spearhead the push for Christians to be successful in business - probably motivated by making the church rich through the subsequent increase in tithes from wealthier congregants. By the 90s you were hearing regular messages about Christian principles for business leasershop that would ensure success - because god blesses the righteous in every aspect of their lives. I left the church in the mid 2000s, but I still see how heavily influential it is in business in southern Africa. As a side note, considering how critical modern evangelical christianity is of every other sect and religion, it is hilarious to me to see how heavily Mormonism and Jehova's Witness principles and cultures have permeated Evangelicalism. These business books and courses are just more proof of this irony. 😂

@OceanusHelios 6 күн бұрын

I'm older than you. My background is in science. I have seen a lot of changes in the business lingo and the sentiments of people and the culture. I can tell you this about economics: Economic theory is ALL religious propaganda. Milton Friedman's trickle down economics ruined this country. It made the poor feel good about being poor and turned them into right wing nut jobs. Economic "theory" is not science, but has always been religion. The economic "education" is paid for and funded to keep people believing and keep them submitting to their all powerful business overlords. It is the religion of money.

@sarahfisher5719 Ай бұрын

Very insightful, though I think most psychology is basically borderline crossing over into religion anyway. It’s really hard to address the mind without addressing the impact of beliefs. Still, I think this is underhanded. Business success isn’t a function of mental health. It’s about market strategies, legal stuff, and numbers. The mental health stuff is how much you can enjoy your life, business is about how much misery you can stomach to get ahead, how much mental health destruction you’ve willing to take. There’s no way around that reality.

@bookaufman9643 6 күн бұрын

I grew up very poor and the LDS missionaries used to really help my family and so my sister and I started attending church. When I turned 8 years old I was baptized by the LDS in my local church / temple. The Mormons have a way of taking over your life completely to where everyday your assigned something that will happen within the church community whether that be sports or Bible reading or reading of any of the Mormon texts. There's night set out for parents to go on dates there's nights set out for the whole family to study about Joseph Smith and Brigham Young together etcetera etcetera. What was weird about the whole situation was that my parents were actually Scientologists but they kind of just went with the flow. Anyhow the one thing I was just thinking about is that the whole idea of God being an alien from another planet who is godlike on this planet is an awesome idea if there was anything other than zero chance that it was true. It would be so cool if you died and instead of laying in the ground decomposing you went off to Cygnus Alakiera l314 and became the God for that planet for eternity. I had no way believe that there's any kind of chance of any of that bullshit being true just like the more mainstream religions are completely untrue but I really like the concept. Also a little tidbit that most people won't know if they're not Mormon is that at least back in the day every Mormon church contained a carpeted half-sized basketball court. Right in the middle of the church. I know this because I played Mormon basketball for a couple years and went to many different churches in the area and they were all the same. I just had one more thought. If you die and become God on another planet who was God on that planet before you got there? I mean who made the planet or do you get to start right at the beginning and you make your own planet? I guess the Mormon idea on this could be proven true if a planet suddenly popped up in a local system. A planet that had never been seen or detected before in all of a sudden it's just there because a Mormon died and became a God and placed a planet in that position. Dumb dum dum dum.😅

@courtneyt5237 15 күн бұрын

Shock...my company uses this 7 habits crap...they asked if I wanted to be apart of it, it was not mandatory but for a select few within our finance team. I said no 😂 AND I process the FranklinCovey invoices!!

@OFFTOPdaP 5 күн бұрын

I started noticing there was something wrong when I would recommend teacher backed “smart people” in class literary classics and they would laugh at me with the teacher and class while recommending me some bullshit like 48 laws of power

@giorgospapoutsakis5271 Ай бұрын

I'll say it now and I'll say it again Religion ruins everything Also thank you very much for calling this phenomenon out so people can know about it and put an end to this

@lucentlacuna Ай бұрын

Hello, based department? Yeah, you’re gonna need to check a video out for me, it even calls out Gladwell as a hack.

@Cachi287 Ай бұрын

15:35 mindfulness doesn’t pretend to know who you are based on what month you were born

@larissabrglum3856 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I see his overall point but I really think some of the things he's talking about exist at pretty different points on the nonsense spectrum

@zenleeparadise Ай бұрын

When he says they're the exact same thing, he means they're both spiritual woo disguised as science, not that mindfulness also assumes your personality based on when you were born. It's like you weren't paying attention to what he was saying at all.

@Cachi287 Ай бұрын

@@zenleeparadise or its a tongue in cheek way of lumping both of them, its like you weren't paying attention at all.

@XinyuJiang-t6o 18 күн бұрын

I have a different perspective on MBTI tests……perhaps it’s because I’m not grown up in the US. Being autistic in a school and society that generally values conformity and self-repressing, MBTI made me see my personality, good and bad, as valuable and unique assets rather than something to hate about myself. I used it to inspire an egalitarian framework that values opinions from those different than you, respect diversity, embrace everyone’s strengths and weaknesses, and challenging what the mainstream deemed as the “only” successful way of life. This is quite radical for me because there are no “good” or “bad” people in MBTI’s framework, at least not in the original books I read about. I use it as a way to see the best in everyone and not abandoning anyone to a lost cause. It’s honestly disgusting and shocking when I discovered people use it as a way to discriminate. Sometimes I think it even resonates better with me than the big five personalities (which is scientifically reliable) because MBTI seemed aren’t as negative and judgmental for personality traits as the big five. I do appreciate how big five don’t sort people into “types”, but looking how much do one express certain traits. I agree people are fluid and unpredictable, I just like MBTI’s underlying idea that “people have diverse traits and are good in different ways, and we should understand that” Never did I once saw these tests as something that impose a “manifest destiny” on people. I always recognized personality are influenced and manifests differently in different environments, they alone can never determine what career you supposed to go. I want to know the developmental background of personality tests like MBTI, what can I do to enjoy critically about something that inspired me this much? Is it even possible to separate the personality tests from their corporate and religious origins? Can it be re-interpreted into something progressive?

@EmL-kg5gn 7 күн бұрын

It sounds like you did a lot to reinterpret MBTI already! I’m autistic too, I totally understand being attached to a framework like this. I think we often love and rely on our systems so it can be disruptive when they’re called into question. But we also love and rely on our interests! So maybe this is an opportunity to learn about people in new ways? For example I really liked learning about how cultural values shape people’s perception of their identity. It’s interesting to see how different cultures conceptualise people’s differences and it gave me words for things that my own culture doesn’t recognise! Another possibility could be learning about the big 5 traits that are framed negatively, surely there’s actually benefits to them?

@Zekrom569 13 күн бұрын

Well i already had my doubts about these "self help" guides because most of the time their effectiveness really depends on circumstantial factors, for example the "5 AM club" which claims that waking up very early in the morning boosts your mental health and your determination to do stuff, which in my own experience it doesnt work and probably for many others that they have a "night owl" biological clock. I also had a feeling that some of the principles and techniques in these books are based on religious doctrines. But in general i feel like self help is a gamble, they include advice and techniques that are at best anecdotes of a single person or out of a small group of people that might be out of their own thought processes but also it might be out of a hive mind mentality which happens most of the time in religious gatherings

@BH-2023 6 күн бұрын

12:20 So... This is really interesting. While I am sure when contextualized in its appropriate religious and cultural location, mindfulness likely has benefits, outside of those locations (e.g., when applied in therapy), mindfulness has been shown to be detrimental (though, you will never here a therapist admit this). Specifically, mindfulness as applied to the psychiatric and mental health spheres has been shown to decrease motivation to escape harmful situations, decrease motivation to improve one's circumstances, and decrease one's motivation to stand up for oneself.

@753studios6 Ай бұрын

I kept being recommended think and grow rich I was reading it until it said “work for free until you’ve gained their trust” I come from a southern Baptist family And they believed the same thing until my dad broke his back and they didn’t pay for the hospital bill I went and told the person who gave it to me ,”this book tells you to work for free in it ,absolutely not .” And I don’t speak to my family because they are prosperity preahers I study earth Magik,and other things older than earth magic.😅

@clairenilles1588 14 күн бұрын

I was hoping things would get better once societies started getting less religious. But now our new gods are money, capitalism, productivity and efficiency. And it has somehow started making things even worse :(

@naomistarlight6178 Ай бұрын

"5 Love Languages" was a useful enough book imho. Although, there's many ways to express love and of course it's not as simple as just 5 categories. But it's true that different people have different preferences when it comes to what expressions of love they're more likely to want/recognize as love. It's like the song "Do You Love Me?" in Fiddler on the Roof. They'd never talked about love because it wasn't important in their culture, marriage was a duty, not a romantic whim. But Golde did have her own way of showing her husband love.

@ennemuk Ай бұрын

Hm is it useful though, or is it a way to tell couples that men need sex and that women need gifts or some "help" with the household. I've got an example from the book paraphrased by another website: An example of this is Chapman’s story about a woman named Ann, who has a husband described as extremely emotionally abusive. Their conversation starts with Ann asking Chapman if it is possible to love someone you hate (girl, RUN). Chapman responds by making Ann read bible passages about loving your enemies. After learning that Ann’s husband’s love language is sexual physical touch, Chapman tells the poor woman that to save her marriage, she has to sleep with her horrible husband twice a week. Ann replies that she finds it “hard to be sexually responsive” to someone who “ignores her”-to which Chapman responds that many women feel that way, and she must simply rely on her Christian faith to get through it. Chapman wraps up this lovely anecdote by saying that Ann took his advice and that there was a tremendous change in her husband’s attitude, with the husband swearing to his friends that Chapman is a miracle worker. We don’t hear how Ann felt about it.

@timcannon5384 2 ай бұрын

You are smashing it bro. Rare to find a still small channel with this high quality of content

@UrgentlyFiring 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@bookaufman9643 6 күн бұрын

The Scientologists were the first to go after personality testing. That used to be how they got new members because there would be scientologists on the streets that would ask you if you were interested in taking a personality test. If you were you got some literature and that would start the connection with the Church of Scientology. I know a lot about this stuff because I grew up as both a child of two scientologists and I was also baptized to Mormon and was involved with that for about 4 years.

@princetontrue 3 күн бұрын

Are you good now? That sounds terrible!

@cupcakesoup Ай бұрын

I definitely agree with most of this, but mindfulness, while it has taken its roots from other places, has science behind it. Having gratitude and being present in the moment is an exercise in grounding. It's hard to let anxiety thrive when you are tuned in to your senses. From a medical standpoint, it helps me not have panic attacks, and thus not have seizures when I get them. That's part of what makes these movements so frustrating. Lowered blood pressure, increased happiness, better sleep quality, and feeling less shame because you don't realize you're just letting life happen to you? Of course that's good! But these people who co-opt the clinical applications are incredibly frustrating.

@rmt3589 Ай бұрын

2:53 Reminds me of a chapter. Think it was Abinidai, something like that. He taught a king of God, by explaining that He was the "great spirit" the king thought Abinidai was.

@nola4364 Ай бұрын

NO WAY I JUST GOT AN AD FOR HEADWAY IN THIS VIDEO! I legit thought for a moment that you’d taken a clip from a Headway ad and were going to spin off that to offer a critique of their self-improvement book summaries

@CorbiniteVids 17 күн бұрын

Imagine how much worse the taxpayer dollar grift for these courses will get if we replace public schools with taxpayer-funded private schools

@idontneedachannelthanksyou7292 Ай бұрын

Good video. Liked it. Did get bad vibes from those self help books, but I wanted a specific example, especially in 7 habits, of “Here is what the book says, here is what is in between the lines/the message it wants you to take”, other than that though I liked it

@pixality7902 15 күн бұрын

Thank you! Its nice to hear a well reasoned take on something that drives me absolutely nuts. Its not just business self help either. These guys spread their idealogy to people looking to improve their lives. Its disgustingly predatory, and unfortunately often includes misogyny (looking at you jordan peterson).