Meta's LEAKED Quest Line-up.. Quest 4, Puffin, Orion And More!!

[@VirtualChap2024]

Meta Quest 3s Now available for $299 🎉 www.meta.com/affiliates/AZtfbcQRz

[@Dese7en]

4k Oled, lighter, smaller, better passthrough, environment scanning all the time. This is more important to me than better graphics in games.

[@ScarletEternity-m2r]

Maybe quest 4 will be 4k

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

Don’t forget eye tracking!

[@Jollerry]

That was quest pro but it's expensive 🍈​@@AZITHEMLGPRO

[@moodlethenoodle]

@@ScarletEternity-m2r So vr screens are measure in ppd. 50 ppd is like 4k and right now the quest 3 is at 25

[@sandernote089]

What’s the point of having all of that when there’s not very many games to play? I have a big screen beyond with the best displays in a VR headset and I still would rather have games with better graphics. That’s like having a Ferrari, but no roads to drive on.

[@SheikAshii]

I just want oled, Higher fov, and face/eye tracking. All that on a quest 4 and nothing else improved from the 3 is fine with me

[@n0t.t0ppp]

higher fov would be so hard. ur looking through a lense

[@Lil-FIERY]

Battery

[@Eliassww]

​@@n0t.t0pppcurved lenses

[@jwr6796]

How is hand tracking currently? I'd pull the trigger if I don't need controllers... and someone gives me $500 extra bucks 😂

[@KrispyDev]

@@n0t.t0ppp what if they made a lens that cupped around your eye area

[@JanBoer-hy9so]

PCVR level chip, oled displays, pancake lenses, and ULTRA-REALISTIC controller haptics (Yes im aware of the price)

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Apple vision pro already do this and look how much that cost wit only the m2 were already now on the m3 and m4

[@NightElfProductions]

Pc level chip? Depends what build you're after problem is more compute requires power size and weight to get to current level pc you'll need a back pack, for example even a gtx 1660 has 5.5 teraflops and that struggles with vr and it has double the power of the xr2 gen2 that has 2.5 tflops. Also bare in mind that the 1660 may have 6gb of vram but that paired with dedicated d-ram of the users choose usually around 16 gb d-ram . Where as the xr2 gen 2 will utilise the on board ram on the quest 3 as both dram and vram meaning it's has 8 gb to share between the both. Meaning that the 6 gb of dedicated video memory is far superior and faster than that of the quest 3. Basically it will take a while for it to even match. even the avp could only real up to 3.5 teraflops now it had double the ram of the q3 at 16 but still it shared that memory between d-ram and v-ram. Where as the theoretical pc in this example has 5.5 tflops 6 gb of vram and let's 16 gb so that's 22 gb of ram (yes I understand it's different) and the build would be cheaper than the avp even with 3 quest 3s so you have 2 as a spare.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@kirby21-xz4rx AVP display resolution was unnecessarily high and added features like facial passthrough that non one actually needs.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@NightElfProductions "for example even a gtx 1660 has 5.5 teraflops and that struggles with vr and it has double the power of the xr2 gen2 that has 2.5 tflops" With true foveated rendering through eye tracking you can reduce the compute to mostly just the sharp, foveal area of your field of view, which is much smaller than people realise, less than 10% of each eyes retina. That's not to say that you get 10x perf for the same hardware, but it's certainly a drastic improvement for simply adding eye tracking sensors to the headset. Add in recent super resolution scalers + time/space warp + variable rate shading and you can squeeze a lot out of relatively low end hardware. Add in puck type solutions with decoupled compute/battery, and the fact that AMD are finally turning up the heat with a 40 CU APU with Strix Halo/Ryzen Max and there is serious potential for 'standalone' VR going forward - even if it needs to run a cable down from your head to power itself (which will both make the headset lighter on your head and potentially increase the possible battery size).

[@TamerOz-87]

Only recently got the Quest 3 and am very impressed with the step up in the technology. Personally think form factor and either high quality pass-through or clear lenses would already be surreal, even if resolution and image quality doesn't improve.

[@starscream6629]

Make sure you get quest game optimizer if you haven’t already it’s kind of mandatory at this point.

[@thunderpocky6034]

Can you imagine a future where technology is blending into what we imagine magic is. Like imagine being 60 or 70 and taking your grandchild on a virtual trip to Saturn. Just you and them dancing among the stars. It would be beautiful.

[@ianconklinmusic]

I have a gun

[@mmmmate5884]

why are you so cringe gng

[@ProPandaPlays]

@@ianconklinmusic who doenst these days lol also random as comment lol

[@ianconklinmusic]

@@ProPandaPlays liberals don't have guns

[@PDD555]

Ngl I wish it was into the real Saturn instead of a VR simulation

[@Talon17]

OLED retina display with the power to run it would be the best improvement. Removing backlight bleed and pixilation would be a massive increase in immersion. That is more important to me for a VR device than improved AR.

[@CosmicChew]

It would be awesome if all the major tech companies came together to figure out the AR Glasses issue. Make it a group development research project. Not to be used for financial gain on the original product they develop. That they could make spin offs of the original project they actually make through the join effort research. But They won't. Sometimes a join effort is needed in order to push and break through boundaries. I don't think one individual company can figure out the AR glasses issue. Look at Google Glass for example. Edit: My Dream VR Headset is the Bigscreem VR Headset size with apple passthrough and quest 3rd party app support. Software would be Steam compatibility and Meta OS base. Tracking would actually be base station + base station less tracking. The ability to remote play and then come back into a space with base stations with 360 precision tracking would be epic.

[@DeeSaxVR]

Top video as usual mate! I think Quest 3 is solid. So iterate on that with eye tracking, small resolution bump, like 20%, and just focus on power. We need to start expanding what’s possible with compute. Mini LED with local dimming too please!

[@VirtualChap2024]

@@DeeSaxVR thanks mate 👍

[@nedis4]

My dream is just Quest 3 with OLED display for like 100$ more and maybe eye tracking

[@spectral3454]

A new pc Vr headset from Meta would be nice.

[@c6jones720]

Dream headset, something more or less like the quest 3 standalone, with eye tracking, but with computing capabilities like a Rog Ally X, so that it can double as a computer, and even play PCVR games.

[@VirtualChap2024]

Perfect, something that can play pc games would be a clear winner for me

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Dream for Play MR is in kickstarted right now.

[@michaelbounce]

uh, you can use your quest 3 to play pc vr

[@c6jones720]

@@michaelbounce No thats not what I meant.I meant having that kind of computing in the same device. Lenovo are supposedly producing a VR headset using horizon OS. They also have already produced the Legion Go handheld device, which is capable of driving PCVR. So Im suggesting a combination of that kind of Intel/AMD technology, and some sort of ARM XR2 in the same package

[@PocketPixelPortablePower]

Quest software has been amazing since I started with quest 1, I had all three headsets and they just keep getting better and better. I’ve used each headset more than the last. I’ve used my quest 3 at least 3-5 times a week compared to once a week with quest 2 and 3 times a month with quest 1. The features are frequent and constantly adapting.

[@mandopepo]

Just one thing more parting from the Quest3, display port please?

[@gackrider5277]

We got Irl HUDs before GTA6

[@cosmopolitanape6969]

Don’t worry we will also she fully functional mark zuckerburg before GTA 6

[@WardenDraws]

It’ll probably be after it

[@sorrow_Sam]

For now, im very happy with the quest 3. But there could definitely be lots of improvements. I wish it would get even lighter or find a way to be more comfortable out of the box, for example.

[@VirtualChap2024]

@@sorrow_Sam yeah the strap leaves alot to be improved

[@danielm5161]

I agree, getting these headsets smaller and lighter is more important than power at the moment imo

[@das7099]

A headset that doesn't look 240p and that is light and comfortable to wear 24/7 for pcvr maybe standalone too

[@danielm5161]

I'd like to see controllers replaced with wrist watch type controllers similar to the new motion controllers that you can get with Pico 4 Ultra. Those are great because you can put them on anything (baseball bat, tennis racket, basketball etc.) opening up the possibilities of mixed reality without needing specific controller peripherals.

[@TheGFellows]

Games don't feel as good without a controller imo

[@Dogappel]

Why would you want that? The pico has these because they don't have camera based handtracking like on Quests. On Quest you can switch between controllers and hands. And a tennis racket feels much more realistic if you actually hold it and has haptic feedback. And since you don't want a controller you can just use handtracking and you still hold a racket in vr.

[@LOOKATMYUSERNAM]

Meta won t do that because hand tracking is better

[@danielm5161]

@@Dogappel Wrist watches can be put on your ankles, then you have feet tracking also. Or lets say you want to play a boxing game like Beat The Bag but you want to wear boxing gloves? That would be possible with wrist tracking. Or put the tracker wrap on a baseball bat for accurate swing tracking instead of awkwardly attaching a controller to it as we do now. As these headsets become more goggle/glasses like and are intended to worn throughout the day then they will stop shipping with controllers (as Apple's headset did). That is where we are headed.

[@danielm5161]

@@LOOKATMYUSERNAM Hand tracking is not better than having a physical tracker on you. And even if the hand tracking was used for hands, the trackers could be put on feet or an object you are holding (baseball bat, golf club etc.)

[@Seb00lean]

Glad I came across your channel, very easy to listen to and presentable voice! Can you tell me which game we see at 1:03?

[@VirtualChap2024]

@@Seb00lean thank you 😊 Guardians Frontline www.meta.com/appreferrals/VirtualChap/5380153758692064/?/&

[@__ojii_]

You can boost your performance by purchasing the Quest Optimizer to make things sharper, when using the Quest 3!

[@sylversoul88]

How much does it cost?

[@__ojii_]

@sylversoul88 around 11-12$ .. but it should be on sale now and as I heard it's a 50% discount.. there are plenty of tutorials on KZbin how to setup the software on your Quest!

[@xiveee2840]

the quest 4 would have to be a major step-up for me to upgrade. The quest 3 is about the most perfect vr headset

[@joltingonwards2017]

Theyre gonna need some nutty upgrades in hardware to run like pcvr games or smth. Not sure what can be improved other than general hardware

[@iwantanewhead2976]

Lcd display, low quality passthrough camera, display saturated at 8k and can't play 12k vr videos, no eye tracking, hand tracking is 2 generation behind apple, no personas 😂😂😂

[@xiveee2840]

@@iwantanewhead2976 for $500, keep that in mind

[@PStudios_2024]

@@joltingonwards2017passthrough suck on VR

[@joltingonwards2017]

@PStudios_2024 that's true yeah. And I think fov can also be improved to increase immersion There are things that can be improved, but we also wanna see something new in the quest 4 instead of just improvements to already existing features

[@drewby4701]

Higher FOV is the most dire need IMO. Higher immersion, higher practicality, less nausea.. :-)

[@viniciusdearrudaesquerdo2661]

Like always, amazing video about VR News. The best channel!

[@imacmill]

A cautionary tale for current and prospective Meta Quest VR headset owners (for sim'ing or gaming): I'm on day 22 of Meta holding my Quest headsets hostage. I've been using Oculus/Quest devices from the day they started making them (10 years ago?), and I have not been required to give my date of birth to Meta in all this time. But they recently demanded my DOB under threat of disabling my Quests, and they made good on that threat 22 days ago. Meta can metaphorically brick your headsets, any time they want, and for any reason they want, and you will have no defense against it. Conclusion: Think carefully before you BUY anything from Meta; The thing you BUY will not be yours.

[@Mossaboy]

This is great and all, but it still seems like the Vr part of Vr feels left behind. What I Mean is this: Imagine These headsets to another world and software's and OS is the room it leads too. you can make the door as fancy as you want. But the moment the person enters the room and sees how much of a bad state its in there just going to do a 180 and then leave. Where is the utility? why is there pc software barely been updated since 2016? why did we lose access to oculus home and now have to choose between premade environments? where is the community features? cool tech thou. I'm looking forward to oled being used in headsets again

[@martinkarleskind8697]

Why dont they make the ar glasses have an airlink with a phone or there own pocket gpu/cpu qnd storage streamed to the glasses? It would be easier than trying to fit expensive tech into the size 2 pencils and lenses.

[@loganpeterjones]

Smaller form factor (with external battery), better pass through, and better resolution

[@MetaverseAdventures]

Quest 3s really needs to be $199 if we want to see the masses start to adopt. It needs to be a no brainer price as many will still pause on $299 as that has been the Quest 2 price and clearly while good, has not brought in the masses as Meta wants. They are aiming for 100s of millions of users as their next step. $199 and a better than Quest 2 might lead there.

[@Samzanas]

Fr

[@joostjansen1954]

300 is a good price tho is anyone else doing it for cheaper ? I don’t think so .there is no competition for meta so every person who wants to experience vr is going to choose meta

[@MetaverseAdventures]

@@joostjansen1954 It is indeed the best price, but is it the price that will bring in lots of people? That is the goal not just a cheap price. Guess we will see in time. I hope so as I am Quest developer.

[@joostjansen1954]

@@MetaverseAdventures why need more people if the majority of vr players are on quest . Meta is chilling

[@MetaverseAdventures]

@@joostjansen1954 It is Meta's goal to get 100 million users un VR then a billion.

[@Sage16226]

i will buy Orion if I can get my proscription added

[@ShockN745]

Boom, subscribed!

[@davidcwilkerson]

The only issue I have with the Quest 3 is that it isn't micro oled. The washed out black in dark scenes is so terrible. So I can't wait for Quest 4. If it doesn't have micro oled and wifi 7 for seemless wireless PC streaming then I will be extremely dissapointed.

[@christiancrow]

I can't wait to see what they come up with with the meta os headsets , some people will utilize room for bigger heatsink or bigger battery and etc ❤

[@rhadiem]

I want Stable Diffusion style graphics in realtime for VR, tied with ChatGPT 4o style characters for some VR Holodeck stuff. Unreal Engine and Unity are about to be obsolete.

[@corriedotdev]

Thr ar glasses are interesting. Project flamera is worth looking into. Glad i got my phd in this field. Need to make stuff for these new hardware

[@KIZILOK78]

I think they need to understand that there is a need for different purposes of vr use. For example there is a need of new design for sports Vr. Lighter headset and controllers for vr sports

[@mrspicolli]

I still want my quest 2 home back…. And echoVR back

[@ianconklinmusic]

the biggest thing I want for xbox is to add vr support for games, mostly for sim racing games. I doubt this will happen though.

[@TRENCH_7]

I had a dream about using the Q3 light bruh

[@Will_-it3mh]

ive recently returned my quest 3 cause i didnt use it much, and it ended up breaking within warranty. i might just think of getting the 3s if it's that much cheaper, since i only played beat saber and low end games anyway

[@aaroncharles007]

My dream vr headset is like a ironman helmet r in form of a helmet where u have animated gif like eyes on the outside and animated anime like mouth and with a voice changer. Wear this futuristic helmet go outside see a city full of xr advertisement and so got it ? Something like that

[@etherreal4393]

I'm sorry, I really wanted a higher end of VR standalone headset rather than an Apple Pro with wired dongle knock-off 🤦🏻‍♂️. I really hope they create a much more powerful successor to da quest tree

[@PixelShade]

The perfect headset would be something that isn't made by Meta. That runs Linux and has open source drivers... I have no reason to trust Meta in their insidious pursuit of owning the VR/AR industry. Personally I got burned with HP Reverb G2 when Microsoft discontinued Windows Mixed Reality, and HP went radio silent to its customers. Due to all of this, Valve is the only company left that I have some kind of trust in right now, and I hope "Project Deckard" will become everything we dream of.

[@168original7]

Nah, rather not have something made by steam. Would rather have a meta console.

[@LOOKATMYUSERNAM]

Why you want that for

[@BabyBerryVr]

Im watching this a month later and 3s is now out

[@lockmuertos]

Somehow I foresee major delays in this technology. I think its wishful thinking that we'll see these headsets drop in this convenient timeline. IE, I'm not holding my breath.

[@warlockboyburns]

xr2 gen2 was double gen1 if the gen 3 is double gen 2 then it's about the same as a gtx 1070 which is good enough for PC vr titles.

[@David-wf3cc]

We need proper full body tracking

[@gu9838]

nice to hear if a quest 4 comes it likely would be in 2026 and not next year as i just got my quest 3. will be awesome!

[@MindFloodMedia]

If xbox could work as a gaming PC for PCVR with my quest I’d be over the moon

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

Wheres that hyper foil game?,

[@imacmill]

That zuck guy gives me the heebie-jeebies. Augmented reality will be a distopian nightmare.

[@cesarbrown2074]

We need to start moving from cell phone level vr to laptop level vr.

[@stefaan9218]

Apple M processors 👍

[@deepoi5754]

Someone gonna definitely leave a quest 3s on "accident" again lmao

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

Quest 3 is there, they did it. Now work on immersion.

[@psychobueller]

Great overview, thank you!

[@Doom_YXZ]

We get Horizon OS: + YAY NO BOOTLOOP PROBLEM + YAY +X HOURS OF VR GAMING WITHOUT POWERBANK - No piracy - No homebrew - No game optimizer... Nah, it sucks 😞

[@Stinky0368]

Quest PlayStation when?

[@artIfactuaI]

I really hope they stop making more quest headsets, quest 4, 5, and 6 sounds so off. Instead they should just make a new lineup of headsets. The quest 3 is already really good.

[@VirtualChap2024]

Whats your Dream VR headset?

[@attackxxx]

The one that has index like audio

[@Stinky0368]

A pcvr headset with quest 3 screen, lenses and it Has base stations

[@atomic...]

Has to be a standalone PCVR capable device for me, That would be so nice to have, and with things like the asus rog ally having very powerful IGPU's I think it'll be possible soon.

[@Stinky0368]

@@atomic... your better off just having a pc then because that will cost you way more than your average pc

[@atomic...]

It would but as of the moment I have no space for a desktop pc. Even if it was more then a pc I'd still get one just because the convenience of set up it would have

[@theo.outofthebox]

I just want a headset that doesn't hurt my face

[@PStudios_2024]

I had the Meta Quest 3 with all its accesories but it still hurts having it ln so definitly agree with you.

[@andrewfontaine4833]

I wish we had XBOX VR

[@FizzBirdMan]

in my opinion, going down the multiple device route is terrible long term. you end up with tens of older models of devices that aren't compatible because every new headset is "better" take Nintendo and the Wii U. or, any old console of theirs. once the new quest 4 is out, the quest 3 will seem like a bad buy, and so on. Make one headset every 5-10 years. ones that can perform at a good level for that time frame. I don't want to buy the quest 3, because i know the quest 4 will be better. but then i wont buy the quest 4, because the 5 will be even better. its an endless loop of losing money because they just can't slow themselves down, they need that funding.

[@BlakeBlackstone]

I don't think we are anywhere we need to be in XR to be able to pull off what we are expecting within the next few years. Maybe 2 full gens away. What we have now is trash, limited, and underutilized. We just aren't there yet. We have been promised this type of shit since the Quest Pro.

[@julianwells4055]

Lighter

[@MrFreesearcher]

Quest 2 Pro is officially dead. Even the Quest Pro is now discontinued, and the reason is nobody will spend over a grand on a headset, as VR is still a nesh market. With the introduction of the Quest 3S, at a lower price point of the Quest 3, Meta would be better focusing on driving the Quest 3 price down, and stop with half bakes that they think fits. They have also now dropped the 128GB Quest 3 in order to roll out the Quest 3S, as the price point was so close to one another. If you ask me, they would have done a better job keeping this model on and binned the Quest 3S before it became an idea. The Quest 3S is over a year later than the Quest 3, and anyone buying in the Quest 3 will already have the 2023 models.

[@TheNextLevel949]

Okay Summary, don't buy quest yet wait another 60 year for a better quest to release

[@S_Smthy]

XR2 gen 3 n 2026? Lol - I already have the Gen3 in my flip6 out since last spring (made) ! In 2026 they better have Quest4 with XR3 ! not Xr2 gen 3 or gen4

[@rayanvrfr]

its gonna be the third update of the xr2 chip so xr2 gen 3, thoses chips are not named because of the phone's chip, the fact that the xr2 gen 2 is based of the 8 gen 2 is just a coincidence and it will certainly not be named xr3 cause it means its a different class of chip, if it existed it would be for a very high-end headset but certainly not for a standalone headset for consumers

[@KianFloppa]

ah

[@Alperic27]

blah blah blah … i dont know i dont know … blah ….🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Sethpecl]

👇early gang

[@superlisard999]

👇late game

[@mnomadvfx]

Is it just me or does Zuckerberg really need to stop injecting his likeness into these advertisements? Guy just creeps me out.

[@JoinUsInVR]

VR is cool, but if you think it's "the most advanced technology on the planet" @ 2:16, then please stop your "puffin" @ 6:15

[@VirtualChap2024]

To be fair the AR glasses that Boz is talking about will have some pretty insane technology

[@Orangatann]

But defo not the most advanced tech

[@JoinUsInVR]

@@VirtualChap2024 most advanced *VR tech", sure. But if my leg breaks, I'll be thanking God for X-Ray technology before I thank God for VR technology..

[@comdudeskip]

@@JoinUsInVR We have Wilhelm Conrad Roentgen to thank for the discovery of X-Rays. Thanking an old book's mythical entity(that doesn't exist) for anything makes no sense, even less for VR technology - we have to advance from myths to reality.

[@CobberPlate]

Quest Xbox 💀💀

[@tindustries]

❤awsome

[@studentone2383]

Can we all just not buy it if they don’t do OLED?