Do Haptic Vests Make VR BETTER?

[@SpicyBean]

Man it's crazy how we have wireless vr, haptic vests, and even vr treadmills. I seriously cannot wait until some company develops a virtual world equal to ready player one

[@allstarsreviewers2278]

Hello it's the future. We're right on the edge of your wish. 🙂

[@jessicagrant6377]

Yup, Zuck is in the process with his Meta.

[@psychotropictraveler514]

@@allstarsreviewers2278 nah. Yes the technology is amazing and has come a long way, but we are still quite a ways off from having Ready Player One levels of immersion

[@Bigbossman707]

15-20 year from now it’ll be a 1:1 from ready player one

[@niklasneighbor6726]

Zuck is doing a Version after the bad guys won

[@PerseusR51]

Ah yes, how it feels to be shot without actually dying! Finally, I don't have to get new test subj- I mean friends to play some VR shooting games :D

[@terryteed1903]

Eeeerm. Nope. Have you seen what happens with cavitation when someone gets hit with a bullet? I dont think it's quite the same. Lol.

[@castrotv846]

We aren't friends ok OK hmmmmmm hes gonna kill me isn't he oh well theres nothing i can d--- RUNNNNNNNN

[@chillingo3638]

He protec He atac But most important He massage his bac

[@hamburber1466]

Chillingo Big lol

[@Gennj]

Lol

[@pugg5ter542]

No

[@dogcalledpickle2406]

Dantdm let’s gooOooO

[@dogcalledpickle2406]

Ah, voice crack

[@bouncycow3010]

Yes, if I’m shot in a game, then I feel like I’m shot in really life! This is a must have!

[@explodingegg123]

Ze Bouncy Cow Theo yay! now u can fell like ur dying edit: why are y'all liking this i mean thanks but why?

[@mikek92]

Or just go out to Portland at night....

[@christiandilly7039]

Not realy

[@christiandilly7039]

@@mikek92 and be a Trump sup

[@christiandilly7039]

@@Shezza_1212 no I don't.

[@Travis_125]

I’m 52 and have been yearning for the “total body” experience for most of my gaming life. Hurry up already!

[@Gunshinzero]

The pros and cons of the tech era. It easy to dream big by knowing what's possible in your lifetime but at the same time you see things move way slower than you have time for. We're over here dodging death for decades at the threshold of virtual utopia.

[@ls_nation470]

It’s out now 😳 a better vest 500$

[@BOLL7708]

As was noted in the video, the Woojer Edge Vest supports AptX LL, that's low latency, and it's way better than the standard Bluetooth audio protocols, which the Subpac M2 is limited to. For me anyway, it makes the Woojer a viable wireless device with no latency issues, I use it almost every VR session. As a side note regarding the Index, in a recent SteamVR beta we just got support for simultaneous audio output in the head speakers and from the 3.5 mm port in a firmware update, so if you still want to go cabled you can do it directly from the Index headset.

[@neurokinetik64ES]

That update will make a huge difference, as I'd basically given up on using the Woojer with the Index because I didn't want to run a dedicated audio cable all the way back to the PC, and my low latency AptX bluetooth dongle wasn't playing nice with the Woojer.

[@moistenvelopes]

What

[@Jgigs1]

Looks like you weren't wearing the woojer properly. Looked wayyy too loose on the sides and chest. If you tighten that up the effect will triple in output.

[@Gamerghost1993]

I also noticed that he had all the straps way to loose, and then he said he keeps hitting his arms on the sides, and i was like then tighten the damm strap!!! Hahah

[@groovy597]

Absolutely! He was not wearing it properly at all. Have all 3. Woojer takes big time.

[@axeandace7728]

thank god i wasn't the only one who noticed that

[@solhsa]

I have the strap version, and the recent firmware update also made a huge difference.

[@Jgigs1]

@@DanBringhurst yes it gets tighter than you can comfortably handle. I actually can't believe he'd record it that way.

[@ebonyivoryconnection1380]

Your criticism of the Woojer regarding it's fit was bizarre, as you didn't tighten the waist, chest and side straps properly???

[@shreddyz]

You're missing the best feature of the bHaptics vest, the built-in abs!

[@stevetb7777]

Totally, I wore mine at the beach... and let me tell you the chicks could not stop staring!

[@panicoaki]

Man, has anyone ever thought why we want to feel getting shot at? XD

[@snakeyro]

Immersion

[@explodingegg123]

me

[@ahobbyist9520]

maybe they want to feel like they have died? Idk why though, since the result would be mental scarring(ie. natsuki's return by death leading him to manic depression

[@spoonspoontastic7128]

PAIINNN

[@Bigmac000]

cameron scott you can’t use anime to prove psycholog-

[@misterhorse8327]

*Gets shot in VR* Hurt me more. *Gets shot in VR again and again* Make me feel it! MAKE ME FEEL ALIVE AGAIN! *ok*

[@HamVR]

I'm still waiting for haptic pants.

[@Bee-nw6df]

It would be cool for sledding!

[@Pyrodagoat]

@Chase McDaniel yeah getting kicked in the nuts

[@dontturnaround9592]

Lol

[@theresachacon1122]

@@Pyrodagoat all guys around the globe will feel that

[@TheBlazingak]

@chase McDaniel lovense already exists

[@itsVVand]

i have both the subpac and woojer vest. the woojer IMO is much more versatile, comfortable, and impressive with the haptics. subpac feels like wearing a camelbak water pack. you have to tighten the straps on the woojer vest so you dont catch them with your arms lol. keep up the good work.

[@groovy597]

Agree 100%! Woojer takes them all.

[@tixmatt]

Looking forward to technology like this being developed for... the nether regions

[@HalfBaked_productions]

Yes

[@MinerGritz]

Can't wait to feel like I'm being kicked there... *screams of agony *

[@Nemoticon]

CBT.............

[@gus9351]

Well most deepfakes made(not all are high quality) nowadays come from mrdeepfakes.com which is a porn focused site. Now of course the same would happen to this technology if it ever gets popularized, people just love porn don't they?

[@gringerandom5872]

Yas

[@grandmaashley]

Grandma approved

[@chandlercook5911]

nice

[@victorykat3153]

N I C E

[@victorykat3153]

N I C E

[@LjCaples]

Nice

[@tomu6859]

Nice

[@safarinuggets9388]

My birthday is coming up soon, so I’m so excited to get one of these! (Looking towards the tactot vest)

[@nij2k]

I was torn between the Woojer and the bhaptics, I know the bhaptics will be better for immersion for games that support but I wanted it for music aswell, so went with the Woojer, which is pretty awesome but I know what you mean about playing half alyx, I got a decent low Latency Bluetooth Transmitter for my pc aswell and it works flawlessly, no delay at all

[@giuseppethegoat4660]

Imagine haptic vests are encouraged by game developers and you playing a horror and you feel a tap on your shoulder and it’s just monster

[@CMDR_Canthor]

Got the Woojer Vest - best buy ever - Try it out if you can! Best VR addition you can get.

[@jemjag3824]

Vr is tuning redy player one style hopfully the world doesnt

[@XxTHEKINGxX]

Someday someone will do the most realistic battle royale

[@jemjag3824]

Wait u blu or red cos i got my ak20pro gun2

[@crosshead4552]

@@jemjag3824 progun yes

[@tondron]

Honestly a world connected through vr wouldnt be that terrible.

[@jemjag3824]

@@XxTHEKINGxX true but we don't want it too be like ready player one, people stuck on their headset too immersed but i love the idea of the whole world being connected

[@traceries5201]

I wish these could be combined into a single device because it seems like the Woojer would be awesome for movie sound as well but then the BHaptics looks to be targeting a more precise gaming feedback setup. I want both together.

[@skippervr9342]

I can’t wait for consumer haptic suits. Bout to make VR even more of a blast!

[@ethanklee9041]

Closest we got is bhaptics, if you get the full setup it covers most of your body.

[@matthagge4792]

Couldn't have been better timing to make this video. With SteamVR's update today allowing dual-audio outputs through the Index I've just started to look at vests like these!

[@Nevercash]

I like how you say the Woojer vest didn't fit as well, while clearly not adjusting any of the straps to make it fit!!! That was frustrating to watch.

[@Zimtok5]

Nice thumb, Mike. Also, kudos for thumping a beat close to my heart.

[@aaronmiller7587]

I was just looking recently into getting the subpac for music purposes and then you upload this video!

[@firefly690]

Full body tracking and haptic suit The ultimate duo

[@JU1CEME]

Well Kim, to the Oasis. ~VRO

[@ParadiseDecay]

Superb video Mike, and I just got into Haptic thanks to Woojer.

[@justintime5021]

I just get my buddy tucker to stand in front of me and punch me whenever I get shot. So realistic

[@catfree]

Shoutout to the chads at BHAPTICS for making easy to follow tutorials for Unity

[@Xalzia]

you pretty much answered the question in the first 25 seconds. impressive.

[@joellajoie-corriveau477]

I own the bHaptics Tactot vest, and would like to add that they DO HAVE Audio To Haptic feedback mode, which works just like the Woojer, and they added a LOT more games supported recently. This includes support for Onward, Pavlov, Superhot, Blade And Sorcery, Zero Caliber, BONEWORKS and they are currently working on implementing Vertigo, In Death Unchained, Gun Club VR and Phasmophobia. So the support is very good. Also, the bHaptics has Audio To Haptic feedback mode, which works just like the Woojer Vest and Subpac M2 when enabled, translates the audio from your computer into vibrations, and you can choose different profiles to tailor the vibrations to the game you are playing. It works really well, and you can even make your own profiles using their dev kit. This makes it COMPLETELY compatible with Beat Saber, and you could theoretically tailor a profile to any game. No delay perceptible even in this mode.

[@mortisnoctu]

WOOJER vest is AMAZEBALLS playing Call of Duty

[@Hybridp.]

Love how he doesn’t call being inflicted with a gun shot, brutal but he being punched brutal

[@carcar5911]

I'll buy it when they get it right. Probably in about 5 tp 10 years

[@explodingegg123]

aw yeah i can feel like i'm dying in vr

[@BrickyP]

You are the best KZbinr ever keep up the good work

[@harf4ng]

Seeing for now just the three présentations at the beginning, to me this is the third one which could really be called a haptic vest. Others are more likely haptic backpacks :)

[@duhmez]

I have wojer edge strap and yes I like it quite a bit for VR gaming. Was especialy nice with half Life Alyx I tried recently, and I have the cheaper strap version and not a ful vest

[@usts6su19]

Just pre-ordered the Bhaptic X40 suit, can't wait to try it on. We are definitely getting closer to a ready player one like reality.

[@maximthemagnificent]

Some of your expressions using these call to mind the phone scene with Douglas Reynholm in The IT Crowd: "Nearly at the station!"

[@notAustinGreen]

Amazing production quality on this video!

[@yolandi.visser]

Provides answer to the title in less than 2 mins, subscribing!!!!

[@soltandvinegar]

They make it cooler looking, that’s for sure.

[@johnvanhorn7889]

my questions is how good the woojer edge strap would work with vr. might not be directional tactile feedback, but i think it could still be cool

[@Bj-re4wt]

Subpac is definitely geared more for music producers rather than video games. Its popular amongst Dubstep and Drum & Bass artists for its ability to replicate sub bass without rattling your neighbors walls with a subwoofer.

[@Psilocybism]

Let's not forget that the be-haptics vest lets you look like your totally ripped! I think that's a + too. Esthetically it's the best of the 3

[@terryteed1903]

I've ordered the jet pad seat cushion with 8 motors from Andre's shop. I almost exclusively play flight sims in VR so am very excited to get my mitts on it. Thanks for the info Mike. 👍👍👍

[@terryteed1903]

@@gumzster il2 or DCS. I'm all about the shooty pew pew. 🤭

[@Perpetucake]

Looking at the example showing the woojer vest's sides sticking out, it appears the straps are completely loose and haven't been tightened at all... Is it any different if you actually pull the straps? Lmao.

[@The_Gamer.139]

Vr treadmills will be the game changer

[@kennethryberg]

I have the Subpac M2, using it with my Quest. I think its awesome!! Especially in games with music like Beat saber and also racing games. It enhances the immersion a lot, and doubles as a way to attach the link cable to my back. With a pulley system in the ceiling, i never really notice it. I also attach the cable from my headphones with a strap. Would recommend. However, i think they are a little too expensive. I just couldnt help myself .. xD

[@astudentpilotlife]

As a owner and backer of the woojer vest and this alone is great general feeling. But I would recommend audio haptic for beginners or budget saver. But if you got the money and the requirements go for full suit haptic.

[@KayoMichiels]

technically, you could write a program that takes into account where you are being hit and use different frequency of sounds in the woojer vest , the transducers have a seperate window where they respond.

[@PabloML4T]

11:31 you review it without knowing how to wear it, it should be tight, same as the upper part.

[@purothe_woof7804]

Haha that's funny

[@alexking7031]

I literally stood up and said “the straps are not even tightened at all!!” The whole video I was wondering if he’d every tighten them so it fits him correctly.

[@railwaytraction9213]

I really like the new edits on the vests COOL

[@TheSteamyPickle]

I could see how this could become apart of the norm. When I used to play halo on the console I tried playing the game once with rumble off as some people said it effected accuracy. Once trying it I couldn’t shoot properly as I couldn’t feel the recoil through my hands anymore.

[@lganeshan86]

Thank you for the review it really gave me some insights to think about what items is worth getting for personal taste

[@Willeexd1337]

Use this and play VR Paradise

[@Buck3131]

I own the Woojer Vest Edge and suggested Mike tried Iron Man VR. Also using a Creative WT-2 Bluetooth dongle on my pc I get near no latency with APTX LL Bluetooth 5.

[@Gabulbov]

They need to make gloves that simulate a shock when you interact with items so it makes you feel like your touching it. (Shocks happen when you interact with items irl)

[@acii5029]

The controller vibrates when you "touch" something. At least with the Quest

[@forwatching6708]

These things seem awesome but I cant understand why we are spending that much for a set of rumble packs. This is tech that has been around since N64 being stitched into cloths. Ill try it when you can get a vest for what its worth.. about $60

[@Holret]

no, not since N64.. it goes even further back.

[@ethanklee9041]

Well they all have to be connected and supplied with power, and connect wirelessly. They gotta get a profit to stay in business. It has as many motors as 8 Xbox controllers.

[@BearLux]

I bought one and the head part and honestly so worth it with full body also

[@jamesmtcarmel]

I got the Woojer Vest for my son and connected it with the Creative BT-W3 in order to sync with PS4 Pro. That was pretty easy and love no wires between the console and me. However i did plug in my wired beats headphones into the woojer, highly recommended. When playing games on the PS4 the haptic is great. When i tried streaming DisneyPlus the sound was still there on the headphones but no haptic...little disappointed there. I was thinking maybe its the streaming service so i pulled up the Mandalorian on my iPhone 7Plus and connect the Woojer to bluetooth, now i feel the haptic again. So something with streaming through the ps4 to the woojer for DisneyPlus was the issue. However walking around with my phone jamming to Taylor Swift (random song on my phone) and getting the full Woojer sound was awesome. I like the woojer vest a lot and looking forward to the next gen.

[@yilly007]

I've been waiting for this video And it's looking 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@paulaives8414]

Thank you for including psvr 😀😀😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😀😀😁😀😀😀😀😊😊😊😊😊 😷👍

[@phillyproductions6694]

loving the videos recently man keep up the great work!

[@conkerlive101]

This is insanely cool by the way. Tip of the spear for advancing gaming technology.

[@Rdasboss]

One of those things I’d have to try. I’m skeptical that it would add much but I was skeptical at how good 6dof and touch controllers would add and I was pretty wrong on that. So I really want to try the b haptics vest, but it would have to add a whole lot for the price. But it’s a neat start.

[@furiousfunter7964]

if they didnt cost as much as they did i would be interested in getting one, the full bhaptics kit looks awsome and i like the look of the woojer vest as well for the likes of Beatsaber

[@ConsumeElectro]

Woojer sells them refurbished for 250 Euro

[@j.francisward1897]

Sounds like it's be awesome in Pistol Whip Combine this with a room for VR WITH SURROUND sound and you got it

[@neurokinetik64ES]

Most games don't actually support surround sound, at least, the rhythm games don't (racing and flight sims mostly do). I actually have tried it with Pistol Whip. I do use external speakers and subwoofers, though, for rhythm games, and that does work, but limited to stereo sound. Of course, with external subwoofers, you don't actually need the haptic vest to feel the music.

[@happyputin7003]

If it makes vr better, it's going to make you more addicted to vr😁

[@samlee2562]

the overview and specs section could be better done with a table of specs and a quick discussion of salient metrics, great comparison though thanks. haha VR jumpsuits are gonna be so sick!! 😝

[@ak43darkhell]

Damn it I didn't know they already thought of that

[@bigjille870]

I’m saving up for oculus

[@VR-CHECK]

Of course they do. Best experience with bhaptics though. 🤗

[@rodelb361]

Me looking at the things I'll never have 🙃

[@jjeeqq]

New bhaptics supports audio to haptics nowdays

[@Komodo1312]

I can recommend a Subpac if you are into bassheavy music and miss the feeling of a big soundsystem or PA.

[@JJTrick]

Love the blue background!

[@digitalsutoraido]

The bhaptics x series vests have resolved all of the issues mentioned. It also has the audio input port now

[@orangapahikaranl6347]

11:29 you have to pull the tabs to tighten them, thats pretty obvious

[@gandontan]

You could also blow into them in the little red tubes in case that doesn't work

[@Kyle-qm4zw]

Very smart. It would make you literally scared of getting shot or dying cause you'd feel it. 100x times more immersive I'll buy

[@soul_snatcher9345]

I would want to use one of the suits in Echo Vr

[@Wileo]

Thanks Mike.

[@elweewee]

Yeah I got a woojer vest for christmas

[@mrgeniasworld4374]

5:42 Greatest implementation except beat saber

[@cachiboabobu1510]

Haptic Vest do seem sick and I cant wait to so what future holds for them. Also I'd love to use one for games like VTOL VR.

[@DineshPunni]

💩 Holy Poop 💩 300+ views and 40 comments in 5 minutes! Well done Mike! Love your content

[@AlejandroHermano]

ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ𝘳 ꪀ𝓲ᧁᧁꫀ.

[@Moonshine449]

@@AlejandroHermano Skai Jackson is gonna doxx you

[@Chiquitito1201]

😳p o o p😳

[@Monkeymoo1111]

As a tactsuit owner I feel the need to say that it is not necessary to own one The way I experienced it is when using it I hardly paid attention to the haptics but when I didn’t use it I noticed I wasn’t getting haptics so to be honest you don’t need one otherwise you go into haptic withdrawals

[@Volker_A4]

Comparing them to that tesla suit was like showing us a geared up Navy Seal and then saying yeah we have laser tag though.

[@AlexLogin0ff]

Watching your last video about bHaptics with Half-Life Alyx it made a huge effect on me, I got Tactot vest and Tactosy for arm set, it work right, and adds a ton of immersion! Thank you for that, and now the question regarding Tactal Haptic Face, is it uncomfortable when vibrating or always?

[@Scott11078]

I'd hope for flight sims like Vtol vr or DCS world the vests would try to emulate the feeling of pulling G's.

[@spacedoutET]

Considering the woojer vest doesn't seem to do much with direction and also a little bulky. In that case if you wanted just some rumble, I suppose the woojer strap maybe a better option

[@The_Triangulator]

@virtual reality oasis the new Subpac shipping in fall has a new transmitter box that offers wireless that uses non Bluetooth wireless tech with near zero latency! :)

[@The_Triangulator]

Thanks for the amazing content BTW! Really love your channel. Cheers mate!

[@eVe1899-d9k]

How cool would it be if you trained with this at the military

[@Ahlex]

How does it compare now? Have the games had updates making their use better than it was one year ago when you reviewed them?

[@othello8135]

my brother got one i didnt arive yet. hopefully it arrives tomorrow so i can use it for him on my birthday.

[@othello8135]

he bought it a month ago. exactly same day. just a month i was happy when i heard they are shipping now.

[@neurokinetik64ES]

Good timing on this. I've had the Woojer Vest Edge for a bit now (was on the first shipment off the Kickstarter). I was really excited about it when I ordered, but after using it for a while, I've been on the fence whether or not I actually want to keep it. I really only bought it for music and rhythm games (specifically Beat Saber, Pistol Whip and Synth Riders). It worked well with the Oculus Quest, but it's a bit of a pain to setup on the Index, as connecting to the headphone jack on the Index disables the built-in speakers, and I didn't have much luck pairing it to my Bluetooth dongle (Avantree Leaf Pro). EDIT: Looks like the new Steam update fixes the output issue. Might have to revisit. For strictly music listening, in an all hard-wired mode, I like it but don't love it. The claimed frequency response seems way better than it really is, because I can hear lower bass notes in my headphones that produce no output at all in the Woojer. I'd say the Woojer doesn't actually do anything below 40Hz.

[@MrTralkis]

I audio mirror to one of these on my Index. Works REALLY well for the Woojer vest. Can highly recommend. www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07RGDM6ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@bencarnado57]

I think that in these times of covid,VR advertising should be on the rise