I think your tracking issues may be partially because of your green screen area. Try putting some masking tape/dots on your walls to help the camera determine the boundaries.
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm seeing this comment a lot! At no point during my video am I facing my green screen wall, it's right behind me! []-\
@omegabob995 жыл бұрын
Ah OK. I thought it (green/walls) were in front of you too :-)
@williamsmith69215 жыл бұрын
@@omegabob99 it does kind of make sense that he wouldn't green screen what the cam never sees
@cameronn11245 жыл бұрын
if the other headsets work fine in this environment then it probably isnt the green screen
@firestrikebs5 жыл бұрын
pandapizzaanimeparty nah I don’t think that’s it. I do that with my quest all the time
@OculusQuestFun5 жыл бұрын
Your honesty about this one is appreciated.
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Theodore! []-)
@OculusQuestFun5 жыл бұрын
Virtual Reality Oasis Cheers Mate
@coffeebreakhero37435 жыл бұрын
that only means valve is paying him. just kidding. it's more of a facebook move. actually... vive is trying to steal from both, so it would make sense for valve and facebook to gang up and murder vive. jk XD *writes notes*
@idlehour5 жыл бұрын
His entire being is appreciated.
@EaglesflyNorth5 жыл бұрын
OculusQuestFun you lost me at batteries
@sammygreco5 жыл бұрын
Got the Rift S awhile back and one of the things that made me extremely happy was when people started talking about how it loses tracking when your hands are close to the mask (like aiming down a rifle's sights), they almost immediately patched it. It was like 2 weeks of an honestly not so big problem and they fixed it promptly. I'll be sticking with Rift as a company for a long time because of it, it left a really good impression on me. Hopefully HTC can do the same.
@-Name-here-5 жыл бұрын
I love oculus I also own a wmr headset and it’s terrible the rift s is amazing and htc being a company that sells 500-800 dollar vr headsets and rift s is much better glad I never did go in and buy the cosmos
@aquaticborealis48775 жыл бұрын
There was an update for the Cosmos. Seems to have helped people out. The room where you use the Cosmos might have some interplay as well. Inside out tracking has its challenges.
@RealShaggy5 жыл бұрын
@@aquaticborealis4877 Inside out tracking is basically perfected on the quest and rift S though, a few stutters now and then or lost tracking if it's too dark or light but that's all I ever have go wrong.
@godpinch5 жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of Facebook as a company and never made an account but I'm really into what they are doing for VR. Yes I can see where they are going and that they will start to force Facebook account stuff with some of their apps Like venues and I'm assuming that one they mentioned at connect. I think given the amount of money they are putting into VR and development and the funding of John Carmack though I will probably be fine with it if I eventually have to make an account. Google has all my data anyway and I'm OK with it for the convenience of using their tech. The idea of VR is something I've been obsessed with since I was a kid (35 now) and they are making it happen
@ChadDidNothingWrong5 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd update their home software every now and then.... not a big deal though...
@Carolyne_games5 жыл бұрын
This honestly just made me appreciate my Quest even more. It's amazing what Oculus has been able to deliver at the $400 price range.
@zethcader64785 жыл бұрын
They seem to be trying to kill off everything but the Quest, lol soon they will unleash hand tracking for it.
@ianmiller60405 жыл бұрын
@@zethcader6478 I can't wait, although there have been videos of the hand-tracking being a bit wonky right now, but hopefully that will be fixed in updates soon after release.
@wotever99ninynine5 жыл бұрын
its more amazing what htc and valve have been able to deliver at the infinite price range... utter crap... that being said, the rift is may have great inside out tracking, and thats awesome, im all for that (currently own wmr). but the low refresh rate and resolution are a turn off for me. not to mention the ties to facebook..
@kylesmith36245 жыл бұрын
@@zethcader6478 I'm glad they are killing off the other headsets! One headset to rule them all
@zethcader64785 жыл бұрын
@@kylesmith3624 But how is it far to kill off a product people paid for.
@ScoobaMusic5 жыл бұрын
Why would they release a headset that can't play some of their own games? That seems a little rediculous to me.
@jackr.7495 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's HTC for you, ask a premium price for something that's not ready yet, they are slow at fixing problems and customer support is not great. Had a Vive, sold the Vive, never touching anything HTC again!
@ge27195 жыл бұрын
the index controllers did the same. they couldnt just make every vr game in the entire steam back catalogue work with index. however htc controllers with buttons thatmatch their old controllers exactly with only new functionality but dont even track and just stick to the floor. thats taking the piss. index at least still functioned with all games.
@coffeebreakhero37435 жыл бұрын
because people are buying the index right now, and people that buy the index won't buy the cosmos, so they needed to release now
@jackr.7495 жыл бұрын
@@coffeebreakhero3743 The problem with the Index is it's not available worldwide, in Canada, the site show "Not available in your country" by the time it's available here, it'll be old tech. My interest in the Index has pretty much faded to the point of not caring.
@jackr.7495 жыл бұрын
@Sebastian Liltorp Lyngbye 9B Gungehusskolen Agreed, there are companies that do that at a premium, I'm also worried about warranty using a middle man. If the Index even becomes available in Canada, my guess is it will be anywhere between $1300 to $1500 here. In example, the Cosmos is $939 Canadian.
@TwoToRule5 жыл бұрын
Finally, as a WMR owner, I can flex.
@dazzledooper5 жыл бұрын
TwoToRule I can relate my wmr aced headset would still probably be better due to the amount of games I can play
@superintendentchalmers22465 жыл бұрын
Lmao anything is better than the cosmos
@superintendentchalmers22465 жыл бұрын
@@prismglider5922 they shouldn't have released it at all and gone standalone
@wotever99ninynine5 жыл бұрын
ikr, i was looking forward to the cosmos.. a mix between the rift s and the index. and most importantly, not connected to facebook... but this thing looks like it has far far worse support and tracking than my cheap ass wmr... which by the way is 90hz and 1440x1440x 2 (more than rift s).. so i still see no reason to upgrade.. i want a flip up visor, higher resolution screens, marginally better lenses and better controller tracking to upgrade.. the cosmos promised this.. and let me down... so now my wmr is better value than a cosmos.. i guess i can 'flex' about that.. but id rather have a functioning cosmos.. im all for inside out tracking. wmr started it and proved it works, oculus continued it and proved it can work well. so now i just want a decent inside out tracked headset, for a decent price.. but unless i want to downgrade resolution and fps for a rift s there is no current upgrade path for me.. not to mention the rift s is twice what i paid for my wmr..
@NicoGamez5 жыл бұрын
Atleast we can hold our controllers infront of us and behind our back without them drifting away 😎
@nilo-visuals5 жыл бұрын
cosmos is 800 euro's here in the netherlands while the rift s is 449... are they even trying to compete?
@Thulen5 жыл бұрын
Yeh in Norway its so expensive ( 868€ )i went for the Rift S instead ,half the price and have suuch a big sweet spot compared to my old wmr , wich i got for cheap for 146€ awhile ago
@firestrikebs5 жыл бұрын
Get the quest
@Henvag5 жыл бұрын
@@Thulen Yeah vr headsets are expensive in Norway.
@MujihanaDesu5 жыл бұрын
I've got the Rift S and I love it. I would recommend it
@kenn125885 жыл бұрын
HappyJr oculus link
@Jona695 жыл бұрын
It's delusional of them to release this at 700 dollars when the oculus quest and rift s are 400.
@Q8Police7775 жыл бұрын
HTC is going down espically since valve makes their own headsets now and dont need HTC and their shit
@Neutronic015 жыл бұрын
Oculus does have funding from Facebook and published their own games.
@cristinacristina89865 жыл бұрын
HTC is doomed as a company. If they wanted to stand a chance they needed to price it at 299, although at that price they would have lost money for at least a while even if they were relatively succesful. That being said they never stood a chance. The oculus tracking, lenses, brand, support, games, software is just on another level.
@Bman8935 жыл бұрын
@@cristinacristina8986 okay while I do agree I think 299 is a little ridiculous LOLthis thing does have higher specs than even the rift s but 699 is ridiculous 499 would have been just fine 399 would have made things very interesting but 299 just would have came off as cheap
@chadchadington88765 жыл бұрын
@@Neutronic01 because facebook owns oculus
@lucasr1615 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think quest or index are the way to go right now. Still thorgholy impressed with my quest after weeks of play most days. Also thanks Mike fo your honest opinion on this headset, I have been looking into it for a while and am glad to know I made a good choice with my quest and that the cosmos may not live up to the hype for a while.
@corninmyass3564 жыл бұрын
So did u get a quest if so is it good?
@JJ-rl3zm4 жыл бұрын
Benson Adee it is great definitely worth it
@corninmyass3564 жыл бұрын
@@JJ-rl3zm thanks for the info! I bet it definitely better than psvr xd
@f-14enthusiast634 жыл бұрын
Index way better lol
@symatra4 жыл бұрын
Well said. My quest still feels like a new experience after two months of play!
@VellahTV5 жыл бұрын
I was going to wait for this before pulling the trigger on the index. I've now spent 100 hours playing with my index, and I couldn't be happier about it
@raccoonax29605 жыл бұрын
Your the reason I got into vr and without these reviews I wouldn't know what's what
@DonMomotaro4 жыл бұрын
*you're
@anaveragecanuck3565 жыл бұрын
I’m good with my quest lmao
@ramengamer13895 жыл бұрын
bruh the cosmos are trash
@kermitfrogballs36925 жыл бұрын
An Average Canuck yes
@EpixFusion5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@dukie78475 жыл бұрын
Correct choice , I’m getting the quest for my bday and when I saw this for the reveal I was like FUCK but then I saw the price and rating and I was pretty happy ngl
@firestrikebs5 жыл бұрын
Same
@ChaseFace5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be happier with my Index.
@zethcader64785 жыл бұрын
Nothing can get close to the index lol
@NiliMoto5 жыл бұрын
Same. After this review i just looked at my baby and smiled. I honestly couldn’t think of anything that im missing or what another hmd would do better
@ReanCombrinck5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you do. You and the rest of the 1%
5 жыл бұрын
@@NiliMoto I have one thing. It's the wireless.
@InMyOwnWordsTV5 жыл бұрын
@@zethcader6478 I have the original Vive, I bought the Index on louch, after using it for a few hours I RETURNED the piece of shit. Black levels were unacceptable, banding issues with screens, the clicking issue with the knuckles, blue tint on the damn screens, god rays that are much worse than the Vive (somehow), stupid black orbs on the sides which are incredibly distracting, and the list goes on. I cannot believe how people ate this up, not sure how they chose to ignore all those issues, I couldn't.
@snjar_63214 жыл бұрын
Definitely make a new review on this piece. From my experience, the tracking has gotten much better with the recent updates. Still finicky in some areas such as holding pistols in games but i've learned to obey the Camera sensors limits; doing this makes everything co-operate.
@Silvia_Rose4 жыл бұрын
glad to hear, i just bought this and then came across older reviews like this and was starting to feel a little pang of regret, but it can't be thaaaaat bad right?
@aspected Жыл бұрын
@@Silvia_Rose how did you find it?
@Silvia_Rose Жыл бұрын
@@aspected terrible, do not buy, there is a reason vive stepped out of the consumer market for a while after the Cosmo's release
@aspected Жыл бұрын
@@Silvia_Rose hahaha fair enough I'll get a Rift S instead. Wasn't expecting you to reply so thank you!!
@jessirarara2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has this headset, I would love to see you do an updated review
@zacthegamer61452 жыл бұрын
How's tracking now? Is it comparable to Quest 2 when it comes to tracking?
@AverageSoldierMain Жыл бұрын
Please help I want to know
@Jeazye Жыл бұрын
Like he said, the tracking has indeed been fixed
@yingyuzheng73925 жыл бұрын
I've read and watch a lot of reviews before deciding the buy the Cosmos. I can tell you the tracking works great for me as long as I turn the lights on in my room. I have 4 LED down lights for my study room which is 4m by 4m. I've owned the original Vive, the Vive Pro and now the Cosmos and I can tell you the Cosmos is hands down the best VR experience I ever had. I played beat saber and the tracking is just so fast and faultless. I don't know why some people complain about tracking issues which I've had none whatsoever. I also love the fact that I don't have to turn on the lighthouse sensors as the cosmos requires none. My Vive Pro sensors used to make buzzing noises and it's annoying as hell. HTC has nailed it this time, the Cosmos is a clear winner with higher resolution than the Valve Index VR.
@wokyiar5 жыл бұрын
i saw the comment on someone elses channel by u. so i belive you cuh i bought it. no regrets
@zigmundfreiheit72224 жыл бұрын
Do you think if I set up extra lamps it can make the tracking good? I just have a single LED on my fan
@wokyiar4 жыл бұрын
@@zigmundfreiheit7222 honestly i say give it maybe a month or two. the tracking has gotten better in the past month, and so had the lighting.
@jaysan0035 жыл бұрын
You lucky man... 😬 Playing with all these toys. Shame this HMD isn't really good, because control and enjoyment are everything.
@Rocksteady72a5 жыл бұрын
HTC: We'll charge them more for less quality in tracking! But- HTC: But there's an extra camera :D I mean, but- HTC: And requires extra batteries :D But- Wait, _how many_ more batteries? HTC: Yes.
@RagingHamster5 жыл бұрын
So if you picked up a Cosmos here are a few tips: Don't
@UstinkOfFea35 жыл бұрын
RagingHamster hahahahahhhahahaha🤣😂😭😭😭
@ge27195 жыл бұрын
1: put it back 2: wash your hands.
@112fail5 жыл бұрын
and if by chance you clicked order button cancel the order
@the_crescent_moon5 жыл бұрын
@@ge2719 and then you need to get a priest to shoo the vive cosmos demons away
@boostedz66705 жыл бұрын
great tip. ill keep it in mind
@humphred49125 жыл бұрын
This is honestly terrible, especially for the price. Edit: I'm talking about the headset, not the video :)
@andrewballsack44065 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s just a ripoff of the quest
@humphred49125 жыл бұрын
@@andrewballsack4406 I think it's worse. I don't think he said in the video, but the controllers have a battery life of 2 HOURS. It would cost more to use the controllers for a month than it would for you to just buy a quest. Batteries are expensive!
@thechaser38775 жыл бұрын
@@humphred4912 That was what HTC said, according to reddit users who have got the cosmos early, it lasts way longer, cant confirm it myself tho
@richboomparkland5 жыл бұрын
@@humphred4912 Thankfully, it seems the 2 hour thing was a rumor, not looking good though overall
@DBZHGWgamer5 жыл бұрын
It's a ripoff of the Rift S, not quest. Cosmos doesn't do stand alone.
@cskhard5 жыл бұрын
I was scared that you would review cosmos being too positive because it being a present from Vive, but I'm really glad you reviewed sincerely. This HMD has really been a dissapointment,thanks for being clear about it!
@bearitbbh4 жыл бұрын
Really nice to see that you’re giving an honest opinion and not just kissing up to HTC.
@vegardt40175 жыл бұрын
I got this headset three days ago, so Ive been able to test it alot the last days. Good review, but I dont suffer from any of the tracking issues you are talking about. I am using a very strong light tho, maybe that helps. Only thing causing me problems is moving one controllers in front of the other one (something they said theyre working on) When it comes to games and the controllers on the other hand, its not that many games that support the controllers yet, and that sucks.. this wil get better tho, and Ive just been making my own bindings or using the oculus bindings to get them working well!
@coolguyalex1275 жыл бұрын
Vegard T how about the display and God Rays? Which gives the best visual experience between Cosmos or Index?
@terraincognitagaming5 жыл бұрын
@@coolguyalex127 Index no doubt
@phantasaia5 жыл бұрын
** see edit below** Same. I used it for about 2 hours today and did not have an issue. I suspect it is at least partially the lack of objects in his play environment, it's just too flat. Edit: I’m returning mine. Tried to use after dark last night with tons of lights on, constantly “too dark” - then today the room was constantly “too bright” and tracking was very poor. Ive had Samsung odyssey in same room for 2 yrs and it has some issues but nowhere near this bad ☹️ disappointed and not willing to wait this out - it’s too bad.
@coolguyalex1275 жыл бұрын
Phantasaia thanks for telling me, I’ve cancelled my order and ordered an Index
@tibor295 жыл бұрын
Exact same experience here. I don't have any tracking issues either. Game compatibility isn't going to be amazing 2 days after the official release date, that's to be expected frankly. The hate this headset is getting at the moment is just silly, especially since the Rift S suffered from a bunch of issues at launch as well which got ironed out over time.
@hdspanky5274 жыл бұрын
Just now seeing this review. Just purchased the Cosmos Elite headset. Have these issues been updated or tweaked since launch? Moreover, can the tracking be improved with the base stations?
@Trio32245 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the controller tracking while not surrounded by a green screen? It seems like the tracking is hurt by green screen and 99% of us will not be gaming next to a green screen
@devindykstra5 жыл бұрын
The clips he showed of the poor tracking quality had him facing the camera with his back to the green screen. And besides the Rift S and Quest work perfectly in that same spot supposedly.
@speaker11155 жыл бұрын
Cas (of Cas and Chary) had the same issue and she resorted to putting sticky notes on her green screen and it made tracking normal again.
@tibor295 жыл бұрын
I own the Cosmos and I'm not getting any major tracking issues. Something about his particular unit is off or it just doesn't like his specific environment.
@kiwi030803084 жыл бұрын
HTC already had released new version 1.0.9.6 . Finally,Tracking system is perfect .awesome!
@zeerah5 жыл бұрын
It looks like something out of the early 2000’s
@mrMacMilli20005 жыл бұрын
Just came out? Better than vive?
@zeerah5 жыл бұрын
Ace Mcloud i know, i just think it looks like a cheap toy..
@mrMacMilli20005 жыл бұрын
Not OLED?
@butters91535 жыл бұрын
I honestly have to agree. It looks like something out of the 90s or 2000s that's trying to look super futuristic, but in reality it's just a 20 dollar toy that's not even that good and breaks in a month.
@mrMacMilli20005 жыл бұрын
@@butters9153 un real. Just finished watching. Man HTC is gunna bleed money on this one. All their shxt is so over priced. Cant compete with quest at half the price??? And the quest has it's own PC built in. Wow. HTC needs to drop out ASAP or come out with a homerun standard system with 8k.
@GirlyGamer-BoardGameGran5 жыл бұрын
This is why I enjoy your channel... they sent you a headset... you're honest about its flaws. I'm thinking of taking the leap to PC VR with the Quest link cable. I'm an all Mac household, so have no idea what to get. Maybe a video on that would be useful for people like me? Like what graphics card is good, what PC is good? That type of thing? I'm hoping to eventually get a PC tower that will plug into my Mac monitor. I'm surprised the controllers don't clunk into one another give the hefty looking size. Thanks as always for the honesty Mike.
@BeyondTheGridMedia5 жыл бұрын
Tough one for Vive. Sad as their accessories offer the widest options in some ways. Full body, wireless, etc
@devindykstra5 жыл бұрын
I hope valve can work out a wireless solution for the Index, that would be flipping amazing. I haven't tried the Vive wireless adapter myself, but I hear it is quite remarkable. Hopefully Valve can create an equally impressive implementation.
@BeyondTheGridMedia5 жыл бұрын
Devin Dykstra im sure they will. They already have a accessory port baked into the Index so I hope to see some developments that make use of it soon.
@RojasTKD75 жыл бұрын
Beyond the Grid The question is when? With 120Hz and 144Hz options wireless probably becomes even more difficult. Also watch the "Cas and Chary" review, the had issue due to the green screen which hampered tracking. The had to put sticky note on the on the wall so the tracking cameras could work properly. I think the may have been one of his issues. Also lights may have been too bright as the Cosmos dosen't seem to like it too dim or too light. Anyway, the other reviews are more positive and I still have hope of getting a Cosmos for wireless comparability as I think the Index will take a while, if it all.
@wotever99ninynine5 жыл бұрын
@@RojasTKD7 probably.. definitely. and unless some physicist invents a new way of doing it, they are limited to wireless frequencies. they are all already known. their benefits and drawbacks. basically the more bandwidth the shorter the distance. so in other words... its currently impossible.
@RojasTKD75 жыл бұрын
@@wotever99ninynine Gabe Newell already started they are looking into options. The technology isn't there yet or would be too pricey at this time to be practical. Hopefully, they will have a solution in 2020. If not the Cosmos might be my other option.
@OasiceOnTheFly5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your honest review. I'm a Quest owner since day one and this made me happier. I was waiting for a review about the Cosmos. What Oculus achieved for the price and the futur updates is simply Amzing.
@lesliedrew9365 жыл бұрын
I think green screens can affect the controller tracking
@Taijifufu5 жыл бұрын
Yeah don't inside-out tracking systems like rooms with unique markers and not a continuous monochrome sheet?
@aquaticborealis48775 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is the case. The room I use is not too uniform, so I think that's why I didn't really have big issues when I tested this afternoon. But I only tested for 20 min.
@EnzoTheBaker5 жыл бұрын
He said the green screen was behind him and he doesn't think that would affect the forward-facing cameras. And he uses the same room for Rift S and Quest. Perhaps he should try it in a different room, just to be 100% sure.
@jeremybryant6933 жыл бұрын
If I ever need help with vr I always go to you. You say it so well to understand
@James9875 жыл бұрын
Index Controllers are great now. I got a new one about a month ago, and it clicks in ALL directions like perfect. (in video you said it didn't)
@SingleRacerSVR5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou VRO - as I feel it is SO IMPORTANT, that we get these honest reviews - just as much as a review raving about the next big thing... As it truly helps (us all) to have an informed buying referral, to make our buying decisions accurately as best we can.
@AretaicGames5 жыл бұрын
A Rift S was my first entry into VR. I thought I would indulge myself by "upgrading" to the Vive Cosmos, but ran into all the problems outlined in this video. The tracking is simply appalling, as compared to the Rift S, to the point that Beat Saber was virtually unplayable unless I lit my room with flood lights and held my arms in front of me at all times,which was made difficult by those heavy, clunky controllers. Sure, the image quality was better, as long as I could keep the "sweet spot," but I could never keep it for long. On top of all that, Viveport Origin is simply undercooked as a hub environment. The Cosmos is now on its way back for a refund, and I have a new appreciation for the Rift S as a reliable, easy-to-use headset.
@gooseywhispers5 жыл бұрын
how much better was the clarity of image, worth 300 more? and how hot did both headsets get
@gadkinson5 жыл бұрын
Why would you choose the Cosmos over, like, anything else?
@rafapim325 жыл бұрын
Just bought a quest a few days ago, without waiting to see if cosmos were going to be better, no regrets now.
@pretz55845 жыл бұрын
Hopefully some updates can fix the tracking issues
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed! []-)
@RojasTKD75 жыл бұрын
Zrecz check out "Cas & Chary" review, in a room with a green screen tracking is problematic. They placed sticky notes on the wall so the camera had land marks to maintain tracking. That might be why he was having such issues. This is the only review I've seen with such extreme problems.
@CW-yo2nz4 жыл бұрын
Your videos have been very informative. Ive been watching a couple, great job!
@notLMV5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I was excited for this
@IllusivePrime4 жыл бұрын
So I want to start VRing, what is the best VR set to get? I've looked at this product on Amazon, I wouldn't pay £700 for a set with these issue. Any recomendations?
@KaliAngy4 жыл бұрын
Illusive Prime index from what i heard is the best vr headset, but for something more affordable i’d say oculus rift s if you have a good pc and if not get an oculus quest
@IllusivePrime4 жыл бұрын
@@KaliAngy Money is not an issue. So you're saying to get this? To me what puts me off is the controller tracking. My computer is of a MSI B150A Gaming Pro M.B with 7 & 10 OS and a 4GB Zotac GTX 970 Nvidia graphics card and a Intel i5-6500 CPU and 25GB of RAM. Is that enough to run VR?
@Lorfarius5 жыл бұрын
They should have delayed this, shocking.
@firestrikebs5 жыл бұрын
Especially the fact their OWN store doesn't even support the cosmos. Makes it feel like a prank on the people that spent $699 on this headset. I am just glad I got a quest
@pcmasterracetechgod56605 жыл бұрын
Honestly they should've just cancelled the whole project. This thing is legit laughable. Like, I was actually shocked throughout this whole video, just con after con. If this was 5 years ago, I could see letting this slide. But there is so many issues that simply shouldn't be there for a 2019 HMD.
@nickwallace35105 жыл бұрын
No, the shocking part is when you realise that they DID delay it, they revealed it for the first time in 2018 and it was expected to start getting out at the beginning of 2019, they delayed it almost 10 months for this...
@Lorfarius5 жыл бұрын
@@nickwallace3510 I'm actually speechless. They might never fix the issues either!
@firestrikebs5 жыл бұрын
Nick Wallace 😂😂😂😂
@OnL285 жыл бұрын
when the cosmos was announced I was excited to buy it for my first vr but ended up getting the htc vive pro after seeing this review im sooooo glad I got my headset over this one
@Whoooan4 жыл бұрын
I mean at that price point you may as well get the index
@josiahbollocks5 жыл бұрын
I hope this means the og Vive gets a price cut
@alexfleming39275 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, the audio is better quality overall. I can notice an improvement from older videos. I think it’s a little bass heavy overall though. I would turn down the bass 20% on that front. Just some helpful feedback. I’m listening on Bose headphones by the way. Keep up the amazing work. Love the videos.
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the feedback Alex 👍🏻
@alexfleming39275 жыл бұрын
Virtual Reality Oasis no problem. Love to see you improving the channel!
@spaghettiweddi80314 жыл бұрын
It’s like they went “Huh, we want to make an Oculus Rift S but worse.”
@MarkoHR4 жыл бұрын
and almost twice the price
@spaghettiweddi80314 жыл бұрын
It’s only expensive because it has Vive in the name, lol
@MarkoHR4 жыл бұрын
@@spaghettiweddi8031 Well, not really, High Resolution Panels, Good Headphones, 6(!) cameras(I'm pretty sure some are full color), but does it matter when tracking is ass?
@spaghettiweddi80314 жыл бұрын
To that I agree with you
@Taijifufu5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a future SteamVR patch and firmware update for the first Vive inside-out tracking HMD will fix a lot? I know HTC has made a lot of missteps over the years but I don't wish for the Vive ecosystem to implode with this.
@stevedrumheller35205 жыл бұрын
Great overview Mike! I especially like your use of the "lazy-susan" spinning table as an homage to HTC's amazing marketing campaign! Lol
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
Haha gotta love a lazy susan []-)
@grimsladeleviathan39585 жыл бұрын
I hate the internet.... because you only have 150k subscribers... This world does not apriciate you enough... I love you, Mike
@tanner02595 жыл бұрын
I agree that the tracking was off however I have just updated the controllers and the headset and it all seems a lot better allready.
@KilljoyTDA5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that!
@tibor295 жыл бұрын
Obviously. It's going to get improved over time, just like Oculus.
@missilereplicas5 жыл бұрын
Great review. You're honesty is most welcome! I'm expecting a Vive Cosmos in a few hours and will be returning it unopened!
@kenball19805 жыл бұрын
I can't beleive high tech hardware like this is using AA batteries in 2019. I like the Cosmos hardware choices, especially being a big fan of the PSVR style HMD and the over the ear headphone style. But the software sounds like it has a loooong way to go. Is this HTC first bout of inside out tracking? Great video, thanks for the info.
@godpinch5 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the choice for AA batteries in this the s and the quest as with the Eneloops you can have good rechargeable batteries without having to worry about a non replaceable one that will eventually fail. Tbf I wouldn't be that in to having to stick a load of double a's into my phone but to miss the replaceable batteries.
@heehee635 жыл бұрын
The removable batteries are actually a plus. You can just get rechargeable and extra pairs of them so that when one runs out, you just swap them right away. No need to wait for recharging before playing again.
@rlam9055 жыл бұрын
Built-in batteries tend to degrade over time so having the option to put rechargeable AA batteries in is better in my opinion.
@Dante02d125 жыл бұрын
This is one of those *many* cases where there is no "better" solution. "Better" is not a scientific term, I'd like people to stop using this BS when talking about tech. AA batteries have the BIG advantage of being quickly replaceable, plus it has a way bigger autonomy, and for the same autonomy it is lighter than the usual batteries. But they have the BIG issue of being more expensive in the end and must be stocked if you don't want to run out of it (it happened to me... a lot... xD). Personally, I choose AA batteries whenever I can. Rechargeable batteries simply don't have a good enough autonomy (that's actually the BIGGEST issue in electronics).
@OO-nb2kt5 жыл бұрын
Why so much hate? It’s good to have options. I’m sure they will eventually release patch fixes in 5he future.
@zigmundfreiheit72224 жыл бұрын
Probably a year at how slow HTC is. 10 month delay for this.
@GetToDaChoppaVR5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest and frank review. For such a pricey headset you would expect and hope for a very small amount of issues to overcome but tracking should definitely not be one of them
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate []-)
@GAMERTAGVR5 жыл бұрын
Good, honest, detailed review as always 👊
@arbitrarytuba64985 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate how he says guys and girls, this guys awesome
@ianmiller60405 жыл бұрын
That always makes me smile. Mike's great.
@noam15A5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was wondering wether I should buy the Cosmos or Rift S. I think I'll take the Rift S, even though it has a lower refresh rate and resolution.
@mrMacMilli20005 жыл бұрын
DEAR LORD. how could they release this??
@HamVR5 жыл бұрын
Thank's for this review Mike 👍 As I feared, some early tracking issues. I'll be steering clear until it's fixed.
@adgepeterb5 жыл бұрын
Smooth set and it takes 30 minutes doesnt go hand in hand, for me a definition of a smooth set up is no longer the 5 minutes
@AverageJoe694205 жыл бұрын
Kind of off topic, but how did you record the Arizona Sunshine gameplay? Did you use the default window (both lenses) or did you take the image from one of the eyes/lenses and crop/zoom it? The reason I ask is because the gun sights line up really well and don't seem to be offset or angled.
@kamekmagickoopa65325 жыл бұрын
I’ll stick to my ol’ Vive Standard.
@Happyhourxd5 жыл бұрын
Sam but I have the index controllers the thumb stick issuses are gone after the first release
@crunchyapple27934 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get the original but it’s no longer being sold anywhere except for amazon and I just can’t get it there, they want like $800
@Akyomi7774 жыл бұрын
@@crunchyapple2793 yeah everyone is buying original HTC vive that a lot of shops just doesn't sell em' anymore since the price has dropped past 3 years drastically to comparable to vive s or quest
@snerttt4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, or go for rift s, they seem to have really good tracking 👍
@TheTylerpoe5 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a follow-up in a day or two to see if any of these issues have been resolved? Doesn't have to be a full video but maybe a reply or tweet? My Cosmos arrived today but I haven't even opened the box because of all the issues. My plan is to return it in a couple days unless tracking/lighting issues have been dramatically improved!
@tibor295 жыл бұрын
I have one. I'm honestly really happy with it and I haven't had any major tracking issues. Game compatibility is going to be resolved soon, it came out just a few days ago, you can't expect 100% game compatibility in the first week. Definitely give it a try before deciding whether to return it.
@F4LLXEN5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else looking forward to the Oculus Quest link adaptor for your PC?
@ianmiller60405 жыл бұрын
I haven't gotten the update yet, but once I do, hell yes!
@Jonalius5 жыл бұрын
A Rift S Wireless Adapter would be nice too
@guitaristgamer20285 жыл бұрын
I got the quest and honestly I think it's one of the best vr sets out there.
@h.a.67905 жыл бұрын
This will take the first place of being the worst headset of 2019.
@williamsmith69215 жыл бұрын
I thought the tracking on my WMR headset was bad, but now I guess people have to give Microsoft some props for making ok tracking on cheaper hardware, now that there is an even worse comparison
@ashcosmo38545 жыл бұрын
Worse how ? For tracking issues that can be fixed with firmware updates ? The Cosmos remains the best specced VR wether you want to believe it or not
@UnknownSquid5 жыл бұрын
@@ashcosmo3854 Best Spec'd VR? Index, Paimax, and the HP-Reverb would all disagree. The Cosmos threw in a token 60 pixels more than the Index vertically to try and pretend it's got the better display, but the panels are lower quality and it lacks the FoV improvements to get any actual value out of them. In practice games will be running at the exact same pixel density, just with a tiny bit more on the top and bottom that you can't even see clearly. Even with firmware updates the tracking will still be camera based, which is a major downside vs any lighthouse system, and the additional adaptor+lighthouses+controllers required to make the Cosmos a lighthouse headset puts the total cost of the system in the area of $1300 to $1400. The Cosmos is far from the best spec'd VR. It's a weird middle ground option that was sadly late to the party vs both the Rift-S and the Index. It tried to compete with both at the same time, rushed it's release in a bid for the Christmas sales, and has ultimately failed to win over either side of the market. It was a bold and interesting attempt, but Vive should probably have gone for one or the other more specifically. Either a $500 Rift-S competitor, or a $600 successor to the OG Vive, still featuring lighthouse as it's primary tracking method. Chasing after both ends of the market at once was reckless.
@dennismarzan57705 жыл бұрын
Ash Cosmo best specced? LCD lenses and can only worked wired? Which planet are u in bruh- check the oculus quest and valve index, they dont have problems with tracking and are correctly priced
@ashcosmo38545 жыл бұрын
@@dennismarzan5770 Oculus did have tracking issues which wet fixed in a patch like Cosmos will. Higher resolution higher refresh rate. Doesn't matter if it's LCD.. I don't hear anyone complaining about their gaming monitor being LCD.. Cosmos is superior in all aspects except from price
@RussBlake805 жыл бұрын
I love my quest even more as days go by and more headsets fall at the wayside.
@ollirk96965 жыл бұрын
I never had Great expectations for this headset and after seeding this i was right. I hope they fix everything about the cobtrollers and more so many People dont lose their money😊
@wotever99ninynine5 жыл бұрын
you have torrenting on your mind pal, i think you meant 'seeing' ;-)
@VRFlightSimGuy5 жыл бұрын
Great and honest review thankyou. The Rift S really is the best value headset on the market for so many reasons.
@Martencell4 жыл бұрын
Me: mum can we buy oculus rift s? Mum: We have oculus rift s at home Oculus rift s at home:
@koki101903 жыл бұрын
thank god this is not a fake review channel
@DAAC865 жыл бұрын
think im happy that i ordered an rift s instead of this one also because of the price
@Holret5 жыл бұрын
yeah imagine paying 800$ for something that only plays 3-4 games and its incompatible with other HTC games. Kind of makes me happy to know that Oculus Rift, Oculus S and soon the Quest (will) share the same library, That's smart.
@puggy78525 жыл бұрын
So glad i bought a valve index before this released omg
@grubas7274 жыл бұрын
Top 5 things to do after getting the Cosmos Headset: 1. Return it and get your money back. 2. Buy Oculus rift(s), Valve index or even Htc Vive. 3. Go see a therapist. It is possible that you suffered from an irreversible brain damage while using your Cosmos. 4. Go to a random review of that thing and sh*t on it in the comments. 5. Call it a day and move on with your life.
@seanduffy75515 жыл бұрын
Crazy how you dont have more subscribers this channels vr videos are 🔥 fire
@grizeldiSLO5 жыл бұрын
So it's as expected. Bad tracking for a rather huge price (for what it offers). Didn't see bad software support coming though, as OpenVR isn't supposed to care about the controller types. Unless they fix the tracking, it looks dead on arrival to me.
@manic2215 жыл бұрын
Glad i went for a RIFT S when my original VIVE gave in. I do intend to upgrade too an Index as soon as i have the cash but the Rift S is a perfectly good stand in for now. And it's always nice to have an oculus device lying around for the exclusive experiences!
@baronsengir1875 жыл бұрын
Seems like Oculus are the only ones really serious about their homework and RD Department.
@UnknownSquid5 жыл бұрын
Well, them and Valve.
@evolicious5 жыл бұрын
Valve, much more than Oculus are the most serious about VR R&D and understanding of VR. Oculus wouldn't exist without Valve
@julianschmidt49054 жыл бұрын
Great review! I noticed, that HTC will release the Cosmos Elite with a different controller which looks lighter then the original cosmos. Any change for another review? I'm not 100% sure, which I gonne get. The support issue maybe turn down the cosmos entirely.
@VirtualRealityOasis4 жыл бұрын
I still wouldn’t recommend the Cosmos. I would go for Rift S, Quest or Index []-)
@ParadiseDecay5 жыл бұрын
Watching Mike finger those flaps..... lol
@fish_bacon4 жыл бұрын
I dunno. I picked up a Cosmos a couple of days ago. While the controller tracking is not perfect at times, I have zero complaints so far. Room tracking has no issues, everything is nice and responsive, and unlike the Oculus, I can wear the goggles and my glasses without begging for death.
@pizzanico39165 жыл бұрын
HTC hasn’t been doing so well lately...
@jackr.7495 жыл бұрын
HTC isn't keeping up with the competition especially in the prices, their prices are out to lunch. I'm surprised they're still in business.
@pizzanico39165 жыл бұрын
Jack R. Yeah, their only good product in the VR industry so far is the OG Vive imo
@pizzanico39165 жыл бұрын
Thomas Yes, i expected way more
@ge27195 жыл бұрын
theyve been doing about the same as every other thing theyve done, as in, not too good and always bordering on going out of business.
@pizzanico39165 жыл бұрын
Graeme Evans yeah HTC is like the Internet Explorer of VR lmao
@mmmmosaic5 жыл бұрын
$300 more than Rift S 🤣😂
@Legendnewer5 жыл бұрын
HTC should have stayed with lighthouse tracking tbh
@yus18125 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@ashcosmo38545 жыл бұрын
Lol @ all the upset oculus fanboys with their inferior display resolution and 80hz.. Oculus patched the Rift tracking as it awful on release and HTC will do the same. Specs wise Cosmos remains the superior product and will be the best once a few firmware updates are released.
@BeamDeam5 жыл бұрын
6:23 i got my Index a few days ago and the thumb Stick clicks on all directions. Seems like they fixed it in the newer produced ones.
@b0mbware5 жыл бұрын
Vive is LITERALLY not even trying anymore. Period.
@tomcat39005 жыл бұрын
It's not that they aren't trying, it's that they no longer have Valve designing their headsets for them
@b0mbware5 жыл бұрын
@@tomcat3900 oh wow they depended on valve that's sad:/
@NikkiMcMistie4 жыл бұрын
When I'm sitting down and playing I really don't notice any problems like this with tracking. The games mentioned now, work for me.
@powermaker69675 жыл бұрын
It looks like it's even worse than Rift S on release date.
@wenghungming89194 жыл бұрын
Dear VR Oasis, will you keep us informed about what's tracking looks like with latest firmware update? Thank you.
@3p1ks5 жыл бұрын
They literally copied Oculus' controllers!
@skullenn694 жыл бұрын
3p1ks exactly what I was thinking
@HarambeMan4 жыл бұрын
Skullen_ 69 and the inside out tracking
@knyt04 жыл бұрын
no they didnt, it's good that they went for it, and sad that they're going away again. it helped make it more universal, until the index controllers become universal
@J.R.WilliamsFilmMaker5 жыл бұрын
Cas and Chary also had similar tracking issues, they seem to think that it's the green screen, even mentioning that the developers said the tracking would work best in rooms with patterns or high high contrast spots.
@rage12655 жыл бұрын
GIGIDY
@goodtyme5 жыл бұрын
Hi sans
@VirtualRealityOasis5 жыл бұрын
[]-)
@odditoriumleviathan87255 жыл бұрын
Tbh probably don’t get a Rift S as well, have you seen the glitches on that thing? Just buy a quest and wait for Oculus Link.
@AdmiralDarius5 жыл бұрын
sad to hear cosmos is a failure. i don't like facebook and i want a competition
@SUNSET695 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, when games such as boneworks and valve titles get released which are built for the index's knuckles Facebook will stand no chance 😄
@Nick_17905 жыл бұрын
IbyGTR I would not bet against the Zuck
@jalbrekt7065 жыл бұрын
IbyGTR Well good thing Facebook has a headset that is $600 cheaper and doesn’t require it to be tethered to a high end gaming PC and that can actually be adopted by the mainstream. I don’t think you realize how extremely niche the high end PCVR community is and how little impact is has compared to the potential audience size of the Oculus Quest
@CognosSquare5 жыл бұрын
It is not a failure. It is insane that Oasis made it sound like that. He did a hit piece on HTC. He was even unable to play any games to test the battery life wtf? I have played 17 games as of now that worked directly. I did very little tracking issues, similar to the Quest.
@SUNSET695 жыл бұрын
@@jalbrekt706 I guess we'll just have to wait and see if hand/finger tracking becomes mainstream or not, and from what we saw oculus show off this past week it still looks like valve's the best option unless oculus greatly improve what they already shown off. I'll admit though at this point the only 2 serious HMD's in the running at the Index and the Quest. Quest tethering alone has probably killed HTC for good if it wasn't already dead after the Rift S and Index made the Vive Pro obsolete.
@matthewblunderbuss45455 жыл бұрын
You just saved me from being utterly bummed by this purchase thank you!
@goodtyme5 жыл бұрын
Why does he say cosmos like that
@monomakes5 жыл бұрын
Yea! It's like Murica invented English (with Greek roots), innit mate!
@goodtyme5 жыл бұрын
@@monomakes well cosmos isnt really a common word so I've never heard it pronounced like that
@mrMacMilli20005 жыл бұрын
@@goodtyme cuz he's a bloody yank
@monomakes5 жыл бұрын
@@goodtyme 'not common'? Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Stephen Hawking, Carl Sagan and Brian Cox (and Dr. Who, obviously) to name but a few, would beg to differ.
@monomakes5 жыл бұрын
@@mrMacMilli2000 wtf? He has a decidedly British English accent. His pronunciation of 'cosmos' is in that idiom, and no mistake. I see no evidence of Yankery here!
@disaster2master5 жыл бұрын
Love spotting that @VRespawn logo in the background
@Crazygamer050505 жыл бұрын
If your using a new mic I like it so much better then the other AM radio one lol keep up the great work man!
@dudeofchicken3 жыл бұрын
what would be a good VR buy? is it still a bad buy or has it improved since the review? thanks
@biscuitman53885 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to getting this but your review was honest and helped out my decision. Though do you think that once the base station option in the future used as normal for other vives would help the cosmos?
@tjoerum-17384 жыл бұрын
I was going to get a cosmos but I saw a ton of issues and people recommend the quest over the rift so my choice is definitely the quest
@mattman68865 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Was expecting more from the Cosmos. Really surprised the tracking is so sub par with all those cameras, especially compared to how well Oculus has nailed inside out tracking with the Rift S and Quest. Maybe they can patch out the issues but wouldn’t be surprised if it has to do with the cameras’ placement on the headset, as they seem to leave a lot of room for occlusion. Looks like I’ll be sticking to using my Quest with Link for PCVR, at least until the Half Dome comes around.