Visualising F1 Technology With Simpleplanes - Ground Effect And The Lotus 79

[@jamesrowland2002]

2024 update: - Still Love playing simpleplanes and i now hardcore speedrun it. See if you can beat me! - www.speedrun.com/simple_planes

[@CYMotorsport]

mate this is BRILLIANT. just stumbled on this to CAD out the Lotus 72 ground effects. great work!

[@an_anonymous_potato]

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[@Kilo-sz4ch]

Also we need a Motorsport centered update. When I got the game I was really into aviation so I never noticed anything else but that but now that I’m into Motorsport I’m noticing the lack of content for automotive designers. Specifically the engines.

[@miklegeorge8115]

We been talking about engines for years they still behind on that

[@simrac1777]

I am currently writing a technical research paper on designing the ultimate hypothetical racing car, with a professor of spacecraft and rocket propulsion, and it involves quite a bit of CAD, CFD, FEM, and other high level engineering and design know-how. Basically a 9G+ cornering, 550+kph top speed, 0-100 kph in under 1 second, ground effect based fan car, that's electric and powered by hydrogen, with active aero and active suspension and a bunch of other F1/Hypercar tech. Thanks for this awesome game suggestion, I am going to download it now and see what my virtual mad car would be like. Also, fantastic work! You are criminally underrated!

[@p00dle82]

im amazed by how my favourite underrated game used as a study tool

[@арахисовое_масло]

been playin simpleplanes for as long as i remember, fun as heck, definitely recommend it, hours of fun.

[@jigsyerro5985]

If only jundroo actually made the airfoil visible, not just a flat light plank Edit: also, im trying to make a trophy truck with controllable spoilers where i can change the angle midair, if i put it atleast 20 degrees just at the end of the hood, will it actually produce downforce?

[@miklegeorge8115]

Awesome video love it

[@lvyathan]

Once again a great upload!! Love your content!

[@arklight2830]

Does drafting exist in simple plane, Please make a video about it.

[@jamesrowland2002]

Ark light you know I never tried! I would imagine not.. will have a look!

[@Kilo-sz4ch]

James Rowland I’ve tried and as far as I’ve seen, no. But to be fair, the car I used was not made by me so I’d have to try again with a car I am familiar with

[@twddersharkmarine7774]

Sadly we don't have drafting (yet) in SP, i really wish we have it, im actually thinking if anyone that knows Funky Trees know how to make input activate when in certain distance between AI, something that will activate a system that can make the car goes faster

[@Kilo-sz4ch]

Rafli Syahrial Putradewa yeah, for now I’ve just been using DRS systems

[@twddersharkmarine7774]

@@Kilo-sz4ch ahh cool, *now it seems to me that i need to start redeveloping my F1 cars* (im WarshipDude in SP btw, the one that makes the Jar in a Jar)

[@AA-zm9hk]

Wow James your voice is so perfect!

[@noobednatherium4082]

@Kurtis Wagner bad news for everyone.

[@apple222sickly]

Great video with great information! This will help me in reality and in simple planes! :D

[@thethirdman225]

My favourite era of F1 too.

[@afoxwithahat7846]

I know this video is old, but your explanation as to why the downforce is generated is backwards, especially because the expansion zone has higher pressure than the compression zone, that's to keep the flow of air constant throughout the whole car. There's a lot of space above the car, thus the air can move freely in large quantities, and there's very little space below the car, so the air has to accelerate and thus lose pressure, again to keep the flow constant.

[@codingwithme9698]

This is a very nice video.

[@351kostakis]

Fantastic

[@soyandyW]

Good video

[@DerpyUniverse]

How did you get the wings to flip because when I flip it it still generated lift instead of downforce

[@ya-rx8nd]

Same thing happened to me when I tried that before.

[@DerpyUniverse]

@@ya-rx8nd I got it to work after a bit of tinkering I don’t know what I did but it works now

[@ya-rx8nd]

@@DerpyUniverse I figured it out. The wing has to be facing the opposite direction.

[@probreyene9595]

Nice Im subscribed

[@supertoad]

good video :D

[@alec4025]

do they actually simulate the pressure? if you removed the side skirts would it handle differently?

[@Axophyse]

Sadly no, there's no air in the game thus no pressure as well.

[@Skibidy_rizzler_]

Cool

[@memorylost4899]

Turns at 600mph .Damn man, chill😅

[@Ozkaynak_man]

I learned to push my cars down. Just thank you

[@reidgaming1015]

I subbed cuz your EPIC LOVE UR CONTENT HOPEFULLY YOU CHANNEL GETS 1 MILLION J PROBABLY WONT CUZ I HAVE ONLY 2 SUBS

[@Johnnyynf]

Nicely explained But i think Simpleplanes don't have this delicate airflow model, it's just two big slabs of wing generating down force. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't really found solid evidence of good airflow model during my 3 years of building cars in this game.

[@jamesrowland2002]

no the game doesn't simulate airflow like we would expect, this was more for illustrative purpose to show how ground effect worked IRL!

[@caiuscosades6423]

Dope

[@Kilo-sz4ch]

Bruh motor mirage is a true test of a cars abilities 😂. Most of the cars I have in my garage have never seen the end

[@alec4025]

great video. do you reckon you could provide a download link for the car ? i would like to try it out

[@jamesrowland2002]

thanks! I uploaded it here www.simpleplanes.com/a/y2I67k/Lotus-Type-79-Ground-Effect-Car Will add that to the bio without the side skirts i think its a bit less stable and more pointy on the front, they are just panels not wings. The center of lift didn't change when i took them off, to be fair its more for illustration as they definitely made a huge difference on the real thing! i'm not sure how in depth the games modelling is and im definitely not an engineer! I have seen working ground effect planes in SP tho!

[@alec4025]

@@jamesrowland2002 it is very good to drive i just tried it

[@jamesrowland2002]

Alec BB thanks! I’m working on some 6 wheel f1 cars and their 4 wheel counterparts to compare them with next!

[@TouringCarsAndStuff]

I’m designing my own ground effect car in SimplePlanes

[@generic7916]

In simpleplanes, did sealing off the sides of the venturi tunnels increase downforce, or does the game only use the wing to give a value for downforce? As in, does the game simulate proper ground effect?

[@TinyBearTim]

Game don’t model ground effect Just downforce the side seals are dead weight

[@stargazer2312]

I built an open wheel car that can take corners flat out at over 500 km/h and doesn't even use ground effect. 34 seconds laptime on Gold Prix. With this knowledge I bet I could make one that is even absurdly faster

[@jamesrowland2002]

World record is 0:08 (me) give it your best shot! www.speedrun.com/simple_planes/runs/m76w939y

[@stargazer2312]

@@jamesrowland2002 dayum. But right now I'm more focused on trying to build an easy to handle car that the AI could drive around the track without crashing or spinning out. This is difficult because the AI is always flat out and never brakes because it thinks it's driving a plane.

[@stargazer2312]

​@@jamesrowland2002it doesn't use actual engines so I wouldn't count it in the traditionnal car category. What's the record for car engines?

[@foresthunter1865]

for some reason cars perform better without suspension, also i put big wings on a f1 car and got a lap of 54 seconds which i thought was pretty good. hopefully theres an update for cars in simpleplanes

[@foresthunter1865]

@nisheshh im pretty sure its just whack simpleplanes physics

[@cringemaster1307]

What was the music u used

[@christianfoged4480]

Do you use any mods?

[@unknownuser8228]

This time, build the BT46 fan car

[@sghsdhdkfh]

you need to download special mod

[@TinyBearTim]

Ground effect isn’t model in the game just lift drag and downforce

[@ZIGGI_WP_FLC]

bullsheet check out Super f1 2.0 my design withou ground effect I can add it but do I really need to though

[@napoleonbonaparte7172]

Late 1 year but i made a Mclaren M23 1974 not 100% accurate

[@jamesrowland2002]

show me dawg!

[@MarioCosentino-j5b]

Va troppo veloce e impossibile stargli dietro.