Vitalik Buterin on Charles Hoskinson and Cardano | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips

[@marcusberkeley3258]

"Let me ask a bit of a human question." Spoken like a true cyborg, Lex.

[@michaelk4740]

Lol

[@ggstylz]

😂

[@travisprice1325]

To be fair, V is kind of a Data clone or on the Spectrum.

[@vestaxwax]

I remember buying ETH at $8. I thought I was a genius when it doubled and I sold.

[@Unclefo]

My buddy wanted us to do Bitcoin mining years ago and he was offering me 10 bitcoins for nothing and I said he’ll no, now who is the idiot today?

[@christianthomaswilborn8686]

@@Unclefo & then you changed your mind a week later and now own thousands so you care to send me a few?

[@Zzrott1]

@Eternal Zen not when your profit is $100. Feels worse than losing tbh

[@alexleung842]

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood I bought ADA and $0.02 and sold at $.40. To say I'm salty is an understatement

[@Itsahmadworld]

@Eternal Zen tell that to the guys that sold btc for $2 dollars

[@kingraj333]

I like how this conversation has 4% eye contact

[@dudzii2537]

All accidental

[@keysersoze8592]

All the calories this guy eats gets immediately consumed by his brain.

[@JS-no7zq]

Amazing quote

[@andrescarrilloestrada984]

he is 100 percent brain zero muscle ......

[@thegodpopper8934]

Yeah he gets abs writing code 😂

[@jonvillani6416]

The prototype of the grey aliens will we eventually evolve into 👽😂

[@keysersoze8592]

@@jonvillani6416 hahahhaa true

[@AltcoinDaily]

Lex always bringing the great questions! Great interview Lex! 🔥

[@crackedtvgaming]

Found you

[@JThechosenhero]

The og

[@ryanbroughey6041]

Wait til he has Richard Heart on. It will be “Hexcellent”

[@vladtschill8774]

I find Lex to be extremely personable and ever relatable. Big fan of Vitalik too. Both seem like great guys. Would absolutely love to sit down for a cup of coffee with these guys.

[@stevenamoah9849]

Love you guys at altcoin

[@BradleyT2p2]

I'm pretty high right now but that was definitely alien speak.

[@breadgarlichouse2265]

don’t

[@sergioprata2107]

🤣🤣🤣

[@eqnawr]

so bullish for ethereum

[@tcr333]

No joke Vitalik is a human incarnation of an alien intelligence

[@PejoACMHSV]

Haha on point

[@metaverse1347]

Vitalik and Charles Hoskinson both are good guys. Cardano and ETH both can change this world

[@tylerjodeblock1224]

can today, but what will tommorrow?

[@YG-pv8zs]

Except for eth

[@bits_for_bytes]

Cardano is a security

[@janedoeski2960]

Both need Chainlink. Few comprehend this

[@janedoeski2960]

@@jackjurphy5020 hahah cope harder. Every L1 has attempted native oracles and ultimately bent the knee to chainlink. Next closest oracle 5+ years behind and none ISO20022 compliant. Remember Ergo? The Chainlink killer? Funny how Charles bent the knee and integrated LINK because he even knows it’s the industry standard. Educate yourself kiddo

[@NathanDuong2023]

Actually, Vitalik Buterin is a humble guy.

[@chrismigermainregis241]

Humble? He's matured and practicing diplomacy.

[@vwrxlasvegas]

VB is the reason why the next generation have hope and ethereum will be the future currency!✌

[@DanielinAction]

@@vwrxlasvegas lol

[@dangeles95]

@@vwrxlasvegas no it won’t.

[@kylepippen]

Lol when

[@mojekonto9287]

When I listen to Charles talk, I understand what he talks about. When I listen to Vitalik talk... it is all a stream of words which I cannot get my head around :D

[@dangeles95]

That’s a sign of intelligence….being able to speak in simple terms. Both are insanely intelligent but charles ability to communicate to most makes him smarter.

[@AltumNovo]

sophistry

[@kylepippen]

Yea this guy tries to talk over people's heads to sound smarter.

[@abz4852]

@@kylepippen he isnt sounding smarter, he actually is smarter lol

[@Hadi_Akbar]

@@dangeles95 not both , vitalik is intelligent thats why he created the first S.C Chain , wheeas Charles is a con artist a fake person

[@greatlakescannabisclub8503]

Wow, computer AI has come a long way.. you can barely tell this guy is a computer

[@abeidiot]

idk, seems more down to earth than most people

[@duGGee13]

You win the internet today hahah 😂

[@bubblybull2463]

Didn‘t he wear leather in Blade Runner?

[@gonzo8450]

he looks like an Et trying to rescue humans from their fate

[@cryptoha5076]

Unnecessary

[@growwithso]

Vitalik sounding like a text-to-speech AI, so cool :)

[@Bitcoinistheshit]

English is not his first language I want to show respect because I can barely speak one ...but yea ur right he sounds text to speech LOL 😂

[@fweenoe9501]

@@Bitcoinistheshit he grew up in Canada and is basically a native speaker of English.

[@தமிழோன்]

@@fweenoe9501 I think he keeps speaking Russian at home. His accent is more Russian than Canadian - even though he's lived most of his life in Canada.

[@dapdizzy]

@@தமிழோன் this “explicit” pronounciation 100% sounds Russian to me as a Russian myself, though I believe I’m not so explicit in pronunciation, or probably I haven’t heard myself speak in a while.

[@jayman732819]

The world needs both Vitalik and Charles to be able to get along , its that simple, they can have individual ideas and own ways of doing things but both these heavy weights need to get along, society needs both

[@85Jthomas]

Imagine vitaliks intelligence combined with Charles's thinking and communication skills 🤯. They have so much to offer in two completely different approaches

[@dangeles95]

We’ll combined they created Ethereum

[@superbar]

Vitalik breaths like an extraterrestrial being interrogated

[@preciousmettlex]

He needs to get that shit checked out.

[@jkrichardson5304]

Moves and looks too

[@miceskin]

So Ethereum has such high gas to supply Vitaliks thinking power.

[@juniorog4080]

He looks how I would think the inventor of Ethereum would look and talk like

[@PushinDaCushion]

And sounds

[@xarmy5669]

he looks like a strong breeze would snap him in half

[@danielmcarthur9004]

Ha bro. well, I agree.

[@intimatespearfisher]

@@PushinDaCushion did you just correct his grammar? 🤣

[@DH-ij9pe]

he completed the project when he was 16, just let that sink in. Boggles my brain

[@mlevel3041]

I didn't understand anything Vitalik said but when he is smiling and talking for 10 min straight I know that this is from heart 🙏 Kudos for respecting your peers

[@carlwatts1230]

Please invite on the podcast Alexander Chepurnoy. He worked as a researcher in early days of iohk. He has his own project he works on now but he is still very knowledgeable about Cardamo too.

[@alienresearchlab]

As a Cardano fan - I think he gave a very rationale and well thought answer. On the one hand you have: research it to death, and then go (and even then it's probably not going to be perfect). On the other hand: you have the Wild West and 'let's try it first and see what happens'. The sweet spot is probably somewhere in the middle.

[@alienresearchlab]

@@jackjurphy5020 Me too. #ADA

[@alienresearchlab]

@JT I would go with Charles' roadmap and peer review test way for sure. Time will tell. Still holding. (Even though painful to go from $3 to .25 cents). Stick w the plan. Charles is a smart guy. Lock it away and enjoy the ride.

[@EddiXP]

​@@alienresearchlabthink of it like this. They all drop 90-99%.. besides btc and eth.. we're gonna be fine in 6-9 months

[@changereception7750]

James Cameron called, he wants his Terminator back!

[@IntrepidRazor]

Definitely not an easy question for Vitalek to answer. The response was a reflection of comparing “deep rigor method” to “take a stab at it and see if it works” methods. He tried to say that they both changed, but used the word “matured” which was not meant as an insult. He also concluded that Etherium may not do everything the best and would be open to learning from other platforms. Standing behind his creation was very introspective and striving for a truth in his answer.

[@danebattaglia75]

Don’t forget Lennon and McCartney reunited in the later years.

[@carloslaend1635]

Yeah but nothing remarkable came out of it.

[@fabian7463]

Hahahah that cracked me up!

[@jordigironowskitp7739]

Faul

[@justinmus2896]

I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round n round.

[@paulaprislinsamms7823]

Love the idea you guys working together again ♥️

[@Khaos969]

Charles created Cardano to be every way superior to Ethereum and Vitalik knows it…. I get the impression he knows he’s living on a sinking ship.

[@thepedrorriva]

He did sound bit defeated in answering this...

[@dridri4664]

Vitalik is actually so strong. Well done my bro

[@jonhoward4884]

How much does Vitalik benchpress?

[@jamessheen3959]

Billions of Ether 🐍

[@jonhoward4884]

@@jamessheen3959 Haha, good response.

[@dewy330]

1.5 lbs

[@cryptocrocodile210]

He's 40 lbs short of lifting the bar.

[@zj4965]

all of them

[@alexleung842]

Vitalik mentioned selfish mining. Bring on Emin Gun Sirer so he can talk about how he found selfish mining, found the DAO hack, and helped invent Avalanche consensus. Emin is completely on-par with Vitalik and Hoskinson imo.

[@reed1hiragar422]

Avalanche fees are high. End of the debate.

[@dirtbagdyl3761]

It’s so hard to follow along with what vitalik is saying knowing the man travelled through space and time to sit here and talk with Lex

[@mindseyeproductions8798]

“His [Thomas Edison] method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90 per cent of the labor. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense. In view of this, the truly prodigious amount of his actual accomplishments is little short of a miracle.” Nikola Tesla

[@bentosan]

Great and very applicable quote

[@ogledalce1]

Nikola Tesla, greatest scientist of all time. It’s a shame that his name is not mentioned more, and sad that many kids, even adults never heard of him.

[@geometerfpv2804]

@@ogledalce1 It's completely absurd to think Tesla is the greatest scientist of all time...Newton invented the idea of mathematical science as we know it today. He invented the mathematical model for motion, invented the calculus needed to describe it, and used it to analyze hard problems, which he repeatedly solved. The notion of describing motion quantitatively like this literally didn't exist, and he created it, and took it so far. Contrast with Tesla. He had hundreds of years of pre-packaged scientific theory to work with. The entire Maxwell theory of electricity and magnetism, for example. That's such an enormous advantage. He could study this stuff from books; it was already written. Not just written, but re-packaged, improved, made easier to understand, over and over. It's just not the same thing.

[@afromachado82]

@@geometerfpv2804 damn youre smart as hell 😅

[@andrescarrilloestrada984]

ive listened to Vitalik Buterin like 30 times and still dont understand a thing.... back to watching ren and stimpy

[@grey_north9016]

He speaks like a programmer like most of them do. It's like their sentences are lines of code lol.

[@Ostricht199]

To be honest nothing that he says makes any real sense if you understand how distributed consensus (that is, the problem that blockchains attempts to solve, is it possible for people who don't trust each other to agree on a single transaction history?) works. He's mostly saying very vague stuff, and whenever he goes into the details (as he does sometimes on twitter) he's just wrong. He printed 72M of ether out of thin air upon ethereum's creation for himself and his "foundation", and bailed out one of its friends' busineess by hard-forking the chain to cancel a transaction (the famous "DAO bailout"). This is a huge problems for a currency: that there is some kind of privileged "users" who are above the rules. He also has a history of scamming people before he started ethereum (google "vitalik buterin quantum computer scam"). Sad!

[@ahmedzaki9434]

He is going 5,000 miles per second, And I am thinking about wither or not I should eat this entire bag of chips.

[@kevinkilpatrick7510]

1:20 beautifully articulated by Lex

[@Swisshustler89]

Every question I always wanted to know he asked, definitely earned my subscription

[@pagogo84]

Allow me to translate: Basically, it's a love/hate relationship, but in the end the two are working to solve different problems; hence the ideological contrast. However, both Vitalik and Charles are super nerds who will shape our digital future. Big Up!

[@bamxire8845]

^Definitely

[@footube3]

No, they're working to solve precisely the same problem, but with very different approaches; both ideologically and architecturally.

[@drostly3220]

The part that V misses on "academic rigor" is that it is an onramp for the future users, developers, academic leaders.. Its a driver.. Banker's want the jump.. IOHK has been super clever by bringing society onto the blockchain.. Eth is too much a Borg-like bankers ball to flow.. I think this will play itself out on the next full cycle..

[@one1two2nine9]

cardano doesnt have a working product. on ramp to what?

[@drostly3220]

@@one1two2nine9 That is debatable.. Eth, online money... Money on a global scale is held and controlled in concentration of 1/10 of 1%.. Money will chase money as it has in capital markets but... Cardano is approaching this differently.. If it takes a little longer to onboard human beings, governments, systems that operate between the layers of identification, verification, and validation.. people have been around as people for a long time while money/medium of exhchange has changed its face many times throughout the advancement of human kind.. Vechain is another blockchain that is. melting data of life up onto the blockchain... Good luck!

[@msims6054]

@@one1two2nine9 are you referring to smart contracts capabilities? Cardano has built so much other infrastructure around their project already - governance, identity solutions, treasury, etc... smart contracts are just a piece of the puzzle over time.

[@dartagnan1640]

Great insight....More convinced that ADA will be one of the top smart contract companies in the world...#AfricaADA.....Buying more... :-) going live soon!!!

[@donalddamron3328]

I can't watch vitalik without thinking of "megamind"

[@LuciferArc1]

I cannot unsee it now. You bastard

[@thekidmanny377]

Lmaooo ur so right

[@drok7619]

Ha

[@crowdozer]

Notice how he isn't cutting Vitalik off as he goes on these very in depth answers and actually shows respect as an interviewer

[@Southsidelion514]

I’m long crypto but I have no idea what Vitalik is talking about. Too much genius

[@warnfuck]

I'd advise getting out of crypto if dont know the basics of your investment

[@roberts.8389]

@@warnfuck good thing your not a financial advisor

[@zipp930]

I appreciated this but I sure hope you invite Mr. Hoskinson onto your podcast very soon thanks

[@bishopsupertramp810]

June 11 if I'm not mistaken

[@nothanks1481]

@@bishopsupertramp810 actually?

[@nothanks1481]

@Jonathan Vander Hout niice

[@WilsonLee123]

Charles mentioned that it has happened already. Lex will release it soon.

[@BRIANROSER]

Hoskinson is so inauthentic though. He is a shmuck. He fooled so many people, his intentions are not for the greater good. He could have chosen to go the friendly route but he rather chose to capitalize on hype and dumb money. I dislike him for this reason.

[@bitcoinjedi2276]

I thought I was an average human when I woke up today; then I watched Vitalik and realized I'm just drift wood...

[@jkrichardson5304]

I’m sure there’s a lot you can do that he cant

[@bitcoinjedi2276]

@@jkrichardson5304 I appreciate your kind statement! TY :)

[@jkrichardson5304]

@@happywednesday6741 yep, no doubt about that one.

[@mirzabaig4711]

Of the three Ethereum founders who work on competing blockchains, I think Gavin Wood and Polkadot took the best route when it comes to development. Rather than the rigorous design "tortoise method" of Cardano or the ad hoc "hare method" of Ethereum, Polkadot took the "canary method" by building a live test network and allowing developers to design, test, and make adjustments at the same time. Not saying they'll win the adoption race, nor that each of these communities don't utilize philosophy/methods that characterize the others in certain contexts, but it is interesting nonetheless.

[@TheJayfunck]

I just spent 8 minutes being totally intrigued and at the same time have no idea what he said.

[@richardxs]

😂 same here

[@TALONTEDGUY]

Hahaha.. I was 2 minutes in and needed to rewind that shit.

[@llliiillliiilll404]

Lol! Accurate

[@Arsity]

LMAO same.

[@begoodbehappy1158]

Totally

[@petermeszaros3849]

The charisma is off the chart in this video

[@toad33332]

Joined this for some insight on Cardano, I've not understood a word homie said. Did he mention it at all

[@bryanfeliciano4102]

They just disagreed on how Ethereum should be run. If you want specific insight into cardano try the iohk channel and Charle's yt channel

[@magickpalms4025]

he says that he prefers to test Ethereum in real time with a crowd of open source developers, even though traditional scholarly types find it reckless. However he respects the need for academic formalization and is glad there are multiple ecosystems with different approaches, so they can learn from each other.

[@bombeu]

CH already gave a reply to the same lvl of professionalism as Vitalik ... we ALL need this kind of people to get along. I don`t think people really understand what`s at play here for the future of the human race ... we, by all accounts, are first hand witnessing the historical ASSOCIATION between people of VERY HIGH capacity and morals as far as the future of finance is concerned that DO NOT have Self-INTEREST as first concern but rather the concern of all human race. DO NOT take this as simply Billionaires talking random crap to grease us and profit after. Amazing!

[@bobmcdonald6638]

I can never understand anything vitalik talks about...

[@phoenixjones7191]

@@yoooyoyooo nah I think he means the speech impediment. Homie uses a lot of jargon tho.

[@ShadyRonin]

Trollimus Prime I laughed way too hard at your comment lmfao

[@Waaqawaaqa]

I feel like it’s a barrier of entry thing done on purpose. If you don’t get the lingo and don’t want to invest time to learn, stay out.

[@Duke-511]

Incomprehensible techno-babble

[@exodus8202]

He is right. When Vitalik brought up the concept of failures from outside the model, it somewhat changed how I look at Cardano. I used to think that deep academic rigor was the be-all-end-all approach to get things done right.

[@marcind4644]

Cardano didn't even follow its own scientific papers, and many decisions were Charles based.

[@geometerfpv2804]

It's really interesting to listen to young intellects. Academia is still primarily run by old ones, and there's a huge, huge difference in the way they see the future. Even in traditional fields like math research, there is so much to be gained by embracing technology, and I think these gains are largely untapped. The majority of research mathematicians don't program, for example.

[@Beny123]

Programming needs mathematics not the other way around .

[@TheChewbaca69]

I can now die saying I've seen a conversion between AI. Lex being the v1 and Vitalik being v3 operating system.

[@DarrellRJr]

What’s interesting about blockchain tech is that it’s being developed, implemented, and criticized in real-time. The race to sufficient utility happening right in front our eyes. Exciting and somewhat frightening times.

[@simoncanil3480]

Beautifully set lex. What a great way to phrase your question... on a very touchy subject. Vitalik couldn't say something positive, and he was not able to answer the exact question but rather defend his shallow rigour approach. Vitalik's argument for shallow rigour is binary to Cardano's 'deep rigour' and is one of Cardano's many strengths. Deep rigour will always pay off in the long run. Vitalik's a genius but still emotionally young.

[@Cryptogab94]

I wish I could understand all of what Vitalik is saying xD. It's too genius for me.

[@debralucas2224]

Me too but I love listening to the conversation anyway 😂

[@ramirotapia5142]

I was trying to focus and all I can think of was WTF

[@Cryptogab94]

@@ramirotapia5142 Yup, after 2 minutes of listening the voice of Vitalik just become noise. The information can't be processed.

[@saqlainmateen4583]

Yh I was lost after 2 minutes 😂😂😂

[@MaryamGronvall]

I really appreciate your efforts! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@lars3743]

Outside of model failures seem more important when technologies are new. As time progresses inside of model failures would become more important.

[@fritzstauff]

Lex is the man. What other host would bother to learn the intricacies of different block chains.

[@martyb5945]

He could probably slither inside any computer and rewrite its code, guy is a genius and rep for skinny guys

[@ImprovementMVMT]

awesome interview 👏👏👏

[@evanste2237]

Appreciate the great question@ 2:40 and the frank response. I now understand the difference between Vitalik and Charles. Two Great minds there’s enough space in Crypto for different ideas to flourish.

[@davidpatton7298]

The really helped to understand V-man better. Genius with a healthy dose of fearless practicality. Too much micro management is based in fear and generally toxic. V.B. is a leader because he has a superior brain and doesn’t seem to command a throne, crown, and scepter.

[@clarkkhoury]

I’m so thankful for you lex, and the great informing content you bring. ❤️

[@je5266]

both of you, please have lots of children. The world needs more of you.

[@SupremeLogo]

What watch is he wearing? Unique

[@brandonjefferies8014]

I wanna know too

[@shinecurious]

Looks like a SWATCH, not sure though

[@rathgaras]

I really respect the wisdom of chosen words this guy uses. Hes got such a clear mind approach

[@kevintaal4616]

This guy was more intelligent and educated at age 17 than I will be at age 40.

[@dangeles95]

Don’t short change yourself like that. This guy is a one trick pony that’s insanely good at one thing. Don’t be like a fish that judges itself on how well it can climb a tree.

[@kevintaal4616]

@@dangeles95 thanks for the comment! You're right! It's good to admire others but never trash talk yourself.

[@dangeles95]

You’re welcome. Have a great day!

[@EddiXP]

​@@dangeles95damn that's a great apology. I'll remember that.

[@baliyachtservices7505]

that dude sounds legit. his fidgety freaky style comes from a place of truth.

[@puremustang732]

I really like bouth projects and i think the future is bright 🔆

[@odetoazam]

Lex im still confused on the black tie attire - whats the angle here? Why mimic intelligence officers?

[@billjohns1416]

This interview is an ad for BTC maxmilists.

[@Unclefo]

I like a peer and scientific approach like Charles did but Vitalik has a point about other Academics optimizing for the other Academics. I hope you bring this up with Charles. The answer maybe a middle ground approach but a unbalanced approach can create unforeseen problems like we see with Eth and the jury is on Cardano.

[@JN003]

anyone watched the full interview ? Keen to know if he asked him about one of Charles's points about ADA being built from the ground up and ETH having to 'bolt on' upgrades.

[@MrKennyBones]

Vitalik didn’t discuss it at all. Actually he didn’t comment much on Cardano at all.

[@JohnSmith-ti3oy]

That is what I keyed on as well. I took away more from what he didn't say.

[@NZsportbiker]

Interesting interview. Good job.

[@11227denis]

Vitalik piloted the TikTak craft

[@ziozzot]

with his mind

[@devinmcconnell7010]

Fantastic interview questions juicy juicy

[@devinmcconnell7010]

@Lex Frídman. you think your slick don't you

[@GripsGrips]

How are the failures inside the model not important if high gas fees is what’s destroying eth ?

[@reflex1377]

OOOF!

[@MrDelliSanti]

I have no faith in a developer who says academic research is overrated and that he optimizes for the "curious outsider." What does that even mean? Brilliant young man but clearly uncertain about his own methodology.

[@MrDelliSanti]

@Carl Raw Ross If this were a legacy systems that quote may be relavent but when you are dealing with decentralized systems that are resistant to change his approach appears negligent.

[@xe2bio64]

I like to know what watch ⌚ he's wearing, 5 dollars or 5000 ? Any ideas

[@arnisls1462]

there is something strange in the fact that we, "normal humans", can say : this guy is a pure genius ...( not someone that pretend to be , like Elon...)

[@Dec2012omg]

I think its pretty obvious Elon is also a genius. Quite silly if you are basing his intelligence on a few recent tweets. You think he bluffed his way into becoming the richest man on the planet, helping engineer reusable space rockets, Electric cars, creating PayPal, being CEO of 5 companies that all are changing the world. Think before you write dumb comments man.

[@northendproductions]

@@Dec2012omg he was born rich, he didn’t found PayPal or Tesla either

[@thewolf2153]

@@northendproductions Elon is no dummy, but he stands on the shoulders of geniuses. He definitely isn’t the smartest guy in the building at any of his companies. He’s basically the figurehead for guys that look like Vitalik.

[@donaldjontwa7549]

@@northendproductions PLEASE!

[@Pmps-tj8no]

Elon is absolutely a genius, more so when compared against people like you who say things like that.

[@mightyman6459]

They always say there was tension between them but I never actually explicitly hear what happened.

[@krMousa]

You interrupted him and he got distracted or dodged the question. Well, feedback from next time or other guests. You do interrupt a lot.

[@Ivan2Jura]

Thanks for listening to the user questions Lex ❤️

[@mal3x]

I just realized I never heard Vitalik say "Cardano" before...

[@killmeslowlyOfficial]

Hes scared, so are all ETH'ers

[@damiann4734]

I am working in big data analytics field and we always rely on latest technologies to solve certain problems. How do we do this faster, lower cost, and do these specific functions? What I've learned is that, companies such like Facebook, Google, Uber and AirBnb have many solutions to the problems we have. Some are good many are bad. The good solutions get releases to the public and then, it is studied and includes into academic researches. Example would be hadoop file system map reduce vs the Apache Spark from MIT. What Vitalik is right is that it's quicker to deploy a solution while academic approach is slower. What he didn't say is academic researches look at all available solutions and study, derive a long term concept. So quick solution doesn't mean long term solution. Just like how ethereum is being phased out by ethereum 2.0 but it is first to market.

[@bytetacos]

Lex, let him talk. You interrupted Vitalik right as he was opening up. Use the pause.

[@turninglathe2662]

the full interview is literally 3 hours.

[@MrMatt-qs2ck]

The was really enlightening!

[@bamxire8845]

Cardano wonderful project

[@jeremyzimmerman5603]

Solid interview - thanks to both Lex and Vitalik.

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[@gastronauta4362]

Wow an Alien interviewed by a Robot.

[@STUPEEEEEEEEEED]

im too dumb for this convo. Can someone put the summary for me, please? I understand his words and sentences, but when i try to sum it up, I have no idea what he was trying to convey.

[@paulaprislinsamms7823]

Brilliant man

[@kujiYoutube]

I have bought ckb @.015 and I will be holding for 10years... Let's see

[@duncanglen3452]

I like when the talking robot asks the human questions

[@tacobreaks]

I just put a huge payment into Cardano

[@davidmclaughlin192]

Fun to listen for 5 minutes and still have no clue what he said😁

[@jeffmorabito10]

What I can say is Charles wants to take his time expanding as where etherium is like let’s go this this and this and it has to be done fast with little thought.

[@jeffmorabito10]

@@cryptotrader4307 good to know yea Cardano is in the making. It will eventually

[@jshappart]

Someone needs to do a tally of how many times he says like per minute

[@farting_donkehy]

I nominate you

[@jshappart]

@@farting_donkehy really got the likes going the 2nd half of the clip, for a rate of about 1 like every 5 seconds for the second half. Maybe a subliminal message built in to make us click the "like" button? :) Obviously a very smart person though and interesting conversation.

[@shaikhjaveed5598]

"Measure Twice and Cut Once" is better than "Move Faster & Break Things" when it comes to people's money

[@jespersorensen4462]

Interesting interview - but it's Charles & Cardano for me: Do the work - get it right before launching ! (+Charles is not just intellectually gifted but conversantly, diplomatically & politically elite). 2 Million TPS - Look out !

[@_computerra]

It's a Shitcoin

[@MrKennyBones]

@@_computerra How is ADA a shitcoin? Please elaborate

[@steelberg23]

Hero worship nonsense

[@sthao1733]

Charles is a pathological liar and sociopath. The early eth founders have stated that he is not to be trusted.

[@MrKennyBones]

@@sthao1733 Oh ok, “some people are saying”. I guess that settles it! Time to sell all my ADA!

[@danielp.gordon4700]

Vitalik has all my respect, is a real human soul!

[@gerganamiteva2814]

All the energy that’s expended on this rivalry is less productive than the ADA maxies realize. Until you see other smart contract projects as allies against traditional financial systems, you will not progress yours or anyone else’s cause.

[@jamesanderson3304]

Oh we do, thats why we have cross chain initiatives and the erc20 convertor to help anyone and everyone work with Cardano. Eth maxies on the other hand....yeh

[@abeidiot]

@@jamesanderson3304 every blockchain has them, they are simply called erc20 bridges instead of marketing names to mislead gullible people into thinking it is something brand new and innovative

[@Leebftw]

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood there’s many smart contract platforms already functional and better than cardano promises to be.

[@gerganamiteva2814]

@@jamesanderson3304 nothing wrong with competition but you’re confusing it with collaboration. zero-sum-game is historically not a winning strategy.

[@davidheesch7495]

I've had the exact same thoughts about Kraft macaroni n cheese. I am not alone.

[@idri41]

How are you not going to ask about Gavin wood?

[@applejuice5635]

Because there’s no animosity there.

[@Diablo99V]

@@applejuice5635 actually......

[@idri41]

@@applejuice5635 I understand that, but I want to know why Gavin left and why Gavin doesn’t think eth will scale in the long run. Gavin basically wrote the code for etheruem. I’m just curious.

[@idri41]

@@scroogemcduck1462 are you referring to the hack? I thought they changed the protocol and returned everything.

[@stoopidnametag]

@@idri41 he got disillusioned with how long it would take to upgrade to 2.0