VIVA | The Steve Dangle Podcast

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 The Vegas Golden Knights defeat the Florida Panthers to capture the 2023 Stanley Cup
21:30 Was this a Jack Eichel revenge tour?
30:00 Revisiting how Vegas built their team
1:07:00 Michael Andlauer buys the Ottawa Senators
1:20:00 Patrick Roy steps down as head coach and GM or the Quebec Remparts
1:29:00 Kyle Dubas names Jason Spezza assistant general manager
1:36:00 Adam Wylde trivia
1:40:45 Is it time to move on from Sheldon Keefe?
1:47:00 Are you a Rizz Gawd?
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Recorded: June 14, 2023
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[@rileymills7887]

Now that Adam doesn't wake up early, he's bring Steve energy to the show and I'm here for it

[@HatTrkPatrk]

Adam: I'll never again forget Steve's hotdog order-- Also Adam: *immediately forgets Steve's hotdog order*

[@neeltheother2342]

that's a dang-it

[@RobertAndruszko]

I'm with Steve, Mustard and onions!

[@nicksanderson5059]

There were like 5 minutes in the second period that was some of the most dominating hockey I’d ever seen

[@bimjenning6962]

I’ve been telling everyone one this.

[@omars9768]

"Do not rub the glizzy on me.'' - Steve Dangle 2023

[@sharkattack11647]

Thank You Jessie, for bringing up that Eichel demanded a trade BEFORE being injured. Adds a lot of context to the situation with the injury that other people just seem to love ignoring.

[@autocitizen7817]

Seems only Buffalo fans remember this fact.

[@jonjohnson1978.]

Whether he asked for a trade or not is a separate thing on him not wanting buffalo to decide what neck procedure he has

[@SOLIDERjee]

I really want to see HOckey guy as guest again, there is interesting things during offseason you guys could chat about. Great Podcast again!

[@ThatsBadTV]

They’ve had him on a couple of times

[@dougstevenson1503]

The second that the Leafs lean into being dirty is the second that the NHL will crack down on it.

[@rickymartin875]

The Core Four wouldn't know dirty if it slapped them in the face! 🤣😂🤣

[@paulthompson8793]

100%, leafs never can get a break with those garbage refs.

[@rickymartin875]

@@paulthompson8793 Leafs are the longest running Comedy Show in Canada. The gift that keeps on giving! 🤣😂🤣

[@HighKage97]

Kessel with 3 Cups and the Core 4 with one second round appearance. 🗿

[@goodsoop420]

Thompson, Cozens, Krebs on the roster now. Kulich, Östlund, and Savoie in the minors. I’d say center is actually one of the better parts of the Sabres. I would say our weakness is Top 4 D and goalie right now. Power needs a proper partner and UPL and Levi need to prove themselves long term

[@jonasgorea3823]

The agonizing drought for the knights has ended. In all seriousness congrats to the knights and their fans. That second period was pure annihilation. Thanks sdpn for another season well covered!

[@bustywaifus]

Shea Weber played in 2021 with his broken foot too.

[@josephstalin4906]

Tkachuk is a nutcase to play with damaged sternum but hey, Nichushkin needed medical assistance to put his right skate on to play in the final, Barron had 75 stitches to the face and yet he's returned to play in the 3rd period, there are so many examples, all these fellas are hard as a coffin nail! Hats off!!! From an Avs fan - congrats to Vegas with their first ever Stanley Cup!!!!

[@montanak833]

We need SDPN jerseys for Leviticus Cornwall

[@ryanduke70]

can we just talk about the real reason vegas is doing so well? every time a player comes to vegas, they have the best season of their career. why is that? spoiler: because they are happy.

[@aidantumlinson8504]

Love these podcasts, Please keep em going!!!

[@mathieulafreniere9689]

Buffalo is deep at center, Tage, Cozens, Mittys, Jost and have Ostlund, savoie and Kulich who are amazing prospects.

[@BaneOfV]

Take out jost and correct. Jost is not a good center, he's a worse Alex kerfoot

[@ABobeck94]

@@BaneOfV Our Centers 1-4 right now are Tage, Cozens, Mittlestadt and Krebs. I don’t need to say anything else about Tage and Cozens because it’s already been said. But it’s good to see Mittlestadt finally break out and have a great 2nd half of the season and Krebs is going to get better.

[@BaneOfV]

@@ABobeck94 100% agree, mittlestadt makes me have faith that marco rossi will still become something, because wow did he turn it around with some experience and time

[@KyleMacSkill]

Buffalo are in a great spot in every position its nuts

[@Arismix23]

I broke my foot in 2020 after falling down the stairs and could not put weight on it for 3 weeks. Even after that, it was still super weak and painful, but bearable. To this day, it still twinges while walking long distances and if I step onto even the slightest of uneven ground, it pops and hurts so bad. I cannot imagine playing hockey on that, I’m assuming they tape and support that foot as much as physically possible so it doesn’t move and shift. Insanity.

[@Arismix23]

@@Reedjohnmiller oh it’s not even a question lol

[@ellaella5537]

Look at Carey Price’s knee and the way he walks, it’s bad, same for Patrick Roy, they can’t walk properly anymore. That’s what it is, lots of players have mentioned it, they have to realize at one point that they will have to stop or they will be in pain for the rest of their lives, won’t be able to keep up with their kids.

[@KS-xk2so]

Yeah I'm sure its crazy bad, but between taping it and some kinda pharmaceutical assistance, it might be bearable.... still wild though

[@nighth00d95]

Does the "de-emphasizing the core 4" basically mean that those players can't handle the playoff pressure?

[@danerwinde7717]

Many years ago, a Buffalo fanatic told me Jack Eichel would have his name written on the Stanley Cup before Connor McDavid after their draft, boy I laughed in his face at the time, I just don't think he realized Eichel would be doing it with another team. Jack Eichel's first playoff appearance, his team beats Connor McDavid's team in the second round, on the way to his first Stanley Cup final appearance, and eventual Cup victory. Boy if I'm Buffalo, I AM SOME SORTA BUTT HURT RN!

[@paulthompson8793]

Oilers just don't wanna build a team around McD, blows my mind how poorly built that team is in the back end.

[@xxdarebearxx2794]

Skinner looks promising, they have alot of money in nurse, and unfortunately if he doesnt step it up hes gotta go, evan bouchard is the most inconsistent defenceman lol

[@KS-xk2so]

Mustard and onions is like THE standard for a street meat Adam, c'mon!

[@bengarland9666]

Adam's point about the Sens being in debt is very true. My Dad used to work with the Sens and their foundation so he had a rough idea of how Melnyk operated the business side. He also said that in a lot of instances the money that was raised would just go back into the business to pay off his debts. Melnyk was hemorrhaging money from the Sens and his other business ventures. I also believe that the Athletics' expose last summer on Melnyk confirmed a lot of these suspicions.

[@Northerngirl15]

Shout out to the mustard & onions crowd 🌭😋👏👏👏👏 keepin’ it simple 🤙

[@jmarx3943]

I can only eat onions on a hot dog. Diced with mustard. Best hot dog

[@rickymartin875]

Shout out to all Loser Leafs Lovers who think the Loser Leafs will win the Cup in 2024! 🤣😂🤣🍁🍁💙🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@MrModernMarvels]

I still cannot forgive bill foley for calling it “ shiny hockey ” many times

[@BlueDragon407]

32:54 - Steve always with the Red Dead Redemption 2 jokes 😂

[@otto908134]

The Leafs need some Shorsy “I never want to lose again” in them

[@KS-xk2so]

I'd have a stick.

[@isaacportillo5909]

As a man living right across Vancouver this is why im a panthers fan

[@theemiester4090]

Betting on job interviews should come with the information for your local gamblers anonymous meetings

[@Salmaan99]

There is indeed one player who has played games for both the Kraken and the Golden Knights, and that is Derrick Pouliot. He played 2 games for the Golden Knights and was placed on waivers and claimed by Seattle. Seattle then played him for 9 games to finish off that season, after which he signed in San Jose. He's the only guy whose played for both teams, and he did so in the same season.

[@gosta4282]

Im a vegas fan so I sometimes go back to podcasts there they talk about the knights and I have to say it's very funny listening to the Reaces discussion after he signed with the leafs and the whole discourse of his play

[@rileywitiw6297]

The oilers / knights series was pretty damn close. Edm had a lead in every game.

[@a.fredscullard162]

Yes, the Oilers had the lead in every game but also blew leads as the depth of the Knights wore Edmonton down! The best game was #6 when the Stanley Cup champs defeated the Oilers on their home ice finishing Edmonton off with Karlsson's empty net goal ... YAH!!!

[@paulthompson8793]

Oilers never going deep with that back line, need to dump that trash nurse contract and rebuild it.

[@abbystlb]

Hearing Steve's story about meeting Barbashev and the breakdown of his trade was cathartic for me, thank you🤣

[@ABobeck94]

Did Adam look at the Sabres current Center core before saying the Sabres have no #1 Center?

[@CC-of5xl]

Thompson is way better than Eichel and this is coming from someone who likes the Knights more than the Sabres

[@ABobeck94]

@@tripsupstairsjust bad Sabres takes.

[@slipperynodd578]

@@CC-of5xlif he can replicate what he did this year then I will 100% agree, but this was so out of the blue that I wanna see if it’s a career year.

[@CC-of5xl]

@slipperynodd578 he did it last year aswell. So 2 years as an elite franchise player vs Eichel who's never shown to be more than a good to great top line player.

[@ABobeck94]

⁠@@slipperynodd578Tage basically improved big time when comparing his numbers from 21-22 to this past season, and he’s only going to get even better heading into 23-24. Should he have a huge season and the Sabres make playoffs, he might win the Hart.

[@brucevrodoor4781]

The Mark Stone hat trick stat is funny because when the Bruins clinched the cup in 2011, Bruins win 4-0, Bergeron and Marchand both had 2 goals.

[@CreamyWheat]

I put two dollars on Eichel having a point in every game of the final! Super cool

[@cemerson4813]

Leviticus Cornwall references get me every time 😂😂

[@travis3975]

Good morning from Guam !

[@mitkoatanassov6350]

Viva Las Vegas 🎉

[@ajstach4011]

Not a word about rangers hiring Laviolette. If you want this network to continue growing, maybe try talking about hockey things that don’t revolve around Toronto/Canada

[@stephenclark4541]

Hey guys, Now that you are all working for just the SDPN now, what will be your summer podcast schedule? Will you be taking August off again? Either way it's all good. Thanks for another great season, and looking forward to the draft.

[@loC2ol]

Go Knights Go!!!!

[@pattaccone5347]

The fact that Draisaitl tied for the lead in goals, and he hasn’t played in two rounds, must be some kind of record ?

[@Marixa1979]

And I'm certain that he was far more injured from that slash than he would let on, he was clearly less effective after that, but like his ankle, he would never let them know they got to him physically.

[@kevinwong3672]

@@Marixa1979 Draisaitl is a monster. I remember last year when he couldn't physically skate and still got over 30 points. It's just too bad oiler isn't built well enough.

[@Ghost-ir7yl]

They gave Vegas a run for their money. You could say they are the 2nd best team in the NHL

[@rickymartin875]

@@Ghost-ir7yl Loser Leafs Lovers or Bruins fans won't like your answer! lol

[@ellaella5537]

@@kevinwong3672it makes me so mad. I’m a Habs fan but Draisaitl is one of my favorite player of all time.

[@myrondalek2958]

One of the first games I ever watched was Buffalo and Minnesota. Eichel was the only player who scored for Buffalo and got in a fight because he seemed like the only Sabre who cared the whole game. Lots of respect for Eichel ever since then

[@Nacnud92]

To quote Miracle: “if he plays on it, can he hurt it any worse?”

[@GenghisTam]

The Leafs need to take all of the old photos out of the arena and replace them all with pics of Tavares scoring in OT against Tampa. But the moment the Leafs start their next playoff run they need to replace them all with the Gudas and Reinhart pictures. Gotta have a different mindset about the playoffs.

[@risk_it_4_the_biscuit]

Sabres do not centers. Got Thompson and Cozens locked up for 7 years starting this season. Krebs is one and so is Mittelstadt. Eichel signed his current contract before Skinner did. Sabres could "afford" both.

[@AD-Dom]

HAHAHA the comments from our house post game was all about how Phil Kessel loved the street meat in TDot. Bless him.

[@benchow8851]

It's a funny theory that the refs will let shenanigans happen during the playoffs. Once the Leafs start doing it during the playoffs, it'll turn into 8 extra powerplays for the opponent and SDPN gonna start getting mad and ask 'why are the Leafs so undisciplined'.

[@paulthompson8793]

Leafs will never get a break with the refs, but my lord the crap all the other teams get away with, including a clear holding the stick on a certain series winning goal right in front of a ref

[@benchow8851]

@@paulthompson8793 Well, your team can do the same thing and see if they get away with it too, the only problem is that if they don't get away with it, then it's a parade to the penalty box in a high-stakes game for the Stanley Cup...Lolol

[@JarradBruessel32]

I mean yzerman said it would take a few years and we are going into season 5 with him as gm

[@wilseph1]

Rizz Gawd

[@rhyta5042]

Hope the move goes well, I will miss the KZbin videos. Just don't have an hour to listen every day.

[@cpeterso]

The glizzy rizz kings

[@GordonMaples]

Expecting a glizzard of hot dogs in celebration

[@unmike19]

Watching the post game interviews, I think it's very telling that both O'Reilly and Eichel have said similar things about not enjoying the game anymore and finding the line again after leaving Buffalo. Now, is that concrete evidence that maybe there was a culture issue there, no. But, I don't think it's just a coincidence. Same goes for Paul Maurice. Comments in the same vein after leaving Winnipeg.

[@ellaella5537]

It’s heavy to play for a team that just loses.

[@sabster55]

Hey Adam, Derrick Pouliot played for both Vegas and Kraken!

[@jamesc7221]

For a second, I thought Steve was drinking straight Ketchup from that red bottle to go with his Hot dog....

[@corycunningham7976]

Let's go!

[@ducksfan_1149]

30:22 that voice crack was funny asf

[@media_crone]

8:50 talking about this is so important

[@Loystefeller]

I just made Smashburgers with mustard and onion, the same goes for hotdogs, there can be relish or other toppings but mustard and onion are all that one requires.

[@alexrowdyrodrigues9716]

I believe this actually puts a lot into perspective for Toronto. Vegas are built to play big, and they have players who are physically imposing, but they can skate well and are gifted both offensively and defensively. Vegas also built their team being cut throat in the way they traded and signed players and coaches maybe tarnishing some reputations along the way but it worked. Treliving and Toronto have to take this same mindset and well when it comes to ever facet of this team from head coaching to players. If you want to be here play that way but if Treliving doesn't see it working he doesn't have to be nice about it either and look for the best possible deals to make this team better even if that means you trade a core player. You can't tell me if Tmrw or next week if Vegas knew that a player like Marner might be available and they would be willing to give you Marchessault, Rielly Smith, and Nic Hague for him, you can't tell me you would say no to that because it would make the Leafs so much better. Look at all options and step on some toes make the players uncomfortable. If you have to get rid of Keefe to do it then you do it.

[@andrewschofield7452]

In the words of Ken Ried......ROOM!! You gotta make room!!!!!

[@num93ECBB]

Bring on another Hockey Guy pod 😁😁

[@maryannshannon6791]

An injury of the sternoclavicular joint is potentially a long-term problem. It could be a recurring problem if it doesn’t heal well.

[@DogoodPOG]

Keefe walking back his coments on the core 4 was the end for him too anyone with a hockey mind. Keep him as a lame duck and gas him when a good coach becomes available

[@Rubensitoc]

nothing wrong with Steve's hotdog order - greetings from Switzerland

[@Chillin24Seven]

The only team to beat the Leafs in the playoffs and win the cup in last 40 years was the 2000 Devils.

[@player9117]

I believe Dale Talon was Canucks first ever draft pick

[@kansas1mjs483]

Mustard and onion is the only way to go

[@FTWcanadianstyle]

all about mustard and pickles and onions baby

[@MrNightRome]

dutch sounds like jamie benn after that suspension

[@maryannshannon6791]

Stereo clavicular joint

[@philipanderson4115]

Theodore and McNabb are D -Partners. Karlsson -Marchy- Smith have played more min together than any other line mates in the NHL over the past six season. Only Marchy was moved.

[@MrNYaksich]

8:48 Adrenalin and Toradol

[@jeffchau89]

Trivia, among all active NHL Players, who has appeared in the most # of playoff games? Follow up, who leads in playoff Gs,As and Ps also among active players?

[@taylorostler1326]

How did I know it was Babe Dye🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kurt9034]

We Crabpeople are waiting Jesse

[@patrickmorphew6928]

Dale Tallon had his name engraved on the cup in 2010

[@wilseph1]

Put down the meat! - Steven

[@newquinn22]

What i, as a sens fan, would want out of a patrick roy as head coach of the team is essentially what Martin St Louis did for players with a relevant skillset on the canadiens. In other words, id like him to be the St Louis to Sogaard's Caufield. The real question is, would he be able to bring that? Its intriguing to me, for sure. If andlauer moves away from DJ Smith, i think Roy would be as good a choice as any

[@Swoksar]

Tony DeAngelo as Micah

[@_easymoneysniper_]

The “please like my sport” people are gonna have a field day with the list of injuries some players played through…

[@zacharyalan4977]

Water Cannon is not what you were looking for.

[@CreamyWheat]

Day 2 of petitioning for THG to come back on the pod!

[@PWS1717]

Dubas was tired of getting his own coffee and car washed..enter Spezza

[@RobbyThomas18]

The Barbashev trade, Dean is supposed to be exactly how Barbashev plays or very similar

[@rakeshtiwari7457]

There's a 30 for 30 on John Spano one of the people that made Bettman look stupid as an owner. Look it up it's fascinating. Also look up another 30 for 30 - Of Miracles and Men about the USSRs rise and their experience of the Miracle on Ice. Been wanting to mention this for a while

[@theBEARinFOREST]

Jesse’s the best

[@risk_it_4_the_biscuit]

He broke the sternum on the hit by Kolesar which was after him hitting Eichel; didn't games.

[@sctvfan1313]

As a big penguins fan, I love it when Steve takes a moment and gives us pens fans a Dubas P.S.A. (here's what to expect in this situation penguins fans)

[@RyanJ8]

As a pens fan I'm happy with pens getting dubas. His biggest mistake was giving too much money to the stars. We already got our stars locked up to cheap deals. Once they retire we obviously will suck for the future but that's how it goes

[@KS-xk2so]

@@RyanJ8 You've got a bright future. I'm pissed the Leafs let Dubas go, terrible call. If I was in your shoes, he's who I'd pick to run my rebuild. Him overpaying the stars only looked bad because COVID came out of nowhere and destroyed the predicted cap growth. Literally impossible to see coming.

[@truthseekercanada]

Hmm, who has more playoff sucess in the last 20 years, Toronto or Vancouver? 😂😂

[@thechefmike]

Burgers Priest is awesome

[@rufus30001]

if there is anything that Bruce Cassidy and Paul Maurice have proved this seaon is that, Coaches are only as good as the team the GM built. Maurice is a Master at squeezing most out of his team, and even he walked way from the Jets (which almost imploded immediately). This is not to defend Keefe, and his line juggling didn't work in playoffs, but compositions matter.

[@maryannshannon6791]

Sterno clavicular

[@joer8854]

I walked on a broken foot (shattered actually) and it sucks, like really super bad sucks. But you can do it. It's just as bad if not more than you think but you can do it.

[@jonjohnson1978.]

Great show No idea if I'm in the minority but the baby gronk segments are automatic fast forward viewing 😅

[@Slidezy]

As someone who wins 10+ cups in almost every 20 years of be a gm sim, i still have never got hired as a gm. That said a toaster could out gm the canucks. I'm also from Sault ste marie lmao

[@drunky4091]

Is Steve Dangle the new glizz king?

[@kevinleach2584]

Playing hurt. It's crazy how hockey players can do this. Everyone remember the destroyed foot xray from Nichushkin?

[@lonewolfpoetics]

We need the video of Steve getting blown up now

[@RyanJ8]

Obviously Vegas expansion wasn't great for Florida but you have to understand the time. The year B4 they signed Hub and Trocheck to long term deals. While next year Ekblad was due a big boy contract. Marchessault had a 30g season. They choose to move them for cap space. Likely saved 10 million to give to Ekblad anyways.