VKB T-Rudder Mk. IV Review! | Feat. DCS: F-14B Tomcat!

[@Spudknocker]

I definitely reccomend VKB's T-Rudder Mk. IV's. I've had them for about 3ish weeks now and I cannot believe how big of an improvement they are over my Old Thrustmaster TFRP rudder pedals. Please consider donating to my patreon page, all donations go right back into making more awesome DCS Content! www.patreon.com/Spudknocker

[@nexus888]

Do you still use them these days or you replaced them with something else now?

[@bdog7262]

I’ve had mine for over a month now and I still can’t get them to work… can’t get them to bind to n DCS. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@OctoBooze]

Planning on getting these for helos. They look absolutely perfect for such use case. No more using old racing car sim pedals with different strength, independent pedals.

[@frankconte264]

My warthog stick just bricked, they sent the wrong circuit board and I said hell with it and just ordered the VKB MK 2 Pro. Can't wait to try it

[@hornetdriver8509]

Nice review... The lack of a toe brake is not a deal breaker for me. Look way better than my thrustmaster set.

[@Spudknocker]

Personally I don't mind it actually, with modern jets I usually bind a button for my brakes anyway and with Russian aircraft they dont need toe brakes. I was surprised how much I didn't miss them!

[@hornetdriver8509]

I have a button assigned on my Warthog stick for brakes. Don't like the feel of steering and trying to brake evenly at the same time..Just makes life a lot easier

[@bullitthead7853]

I really like having toe brakes for a bit of differential braking help during take off roll if needed. Seems to work better than nose wheel steering at keeping me on center line at low speeds before there is rudder authority.

[@MikeArwineGuitar]

@@SpudknockerI know this is old, but I just got these pedals. What’s the name in controller settings that I need to bind a button to? Thanks!

[@slyderace]

glad to see that you enjoy them so much. I just ordered a set last weekend! Should arrive in a few days! :D

[@Rhinozherous]

Thank you very much! Learned a lot about rudder use in the cat!

[@Spudknocker]

Rhinozherous I’m glad it helped you out man! It’s a tricky subject to try and get into a video

[@Scott.Farkus]

Those look like they'd be great for DCS Huey. I've got the Thrust Master TFRP pedals. They're not that great, probably o.k. for fixed wing, but really sticky for helicopters.

[@slow9573]

Been using the TFRP Pedals for like 2 years now and I seriously hate them. Awful product. Can't wait to upgrade.

[@Scott.Farkus]

@@slow9573 I was thinking about going with a set of Crosswinds, then I saw these VKB T-Rudders; this is probably what I'll go with.

[@checkyoursix7401]

Very good review. As i will buy the F-14 B module, i need a rudder...affordable high quality rudder. So you have convinced me :)

[@weltensegLA]

not moving my legs for rudder like in most aircraft is definitely a no go for me, but thanks for showing them off.

[@Spudknocker]

weltensegLA for a flight sim I think it’s pretty ideal cause you can be very precise!

[@weltensegLA]

@@Spudknocker More precise than the long way you can slide with other pedals? Oh well guess its subjective. But currently I fly more IRL than DCS and that habit may significantly extend my takeoff roll, hahaha

[@Spudknocker]

@@weltensegLA Would I want to fly a real airplane with these? Def not, LOL but for a flight sim peripheral they are pretty top notch just my humble opinion on em

[@dutchmanace7471]

Wow it is a really nice vid I wish all the review vids where made like this damn

[@aqua21]

Slaw Device RX Viper is also great pedals if you want to get rid of some money. Well worth all of them anyway.

[@MisterMannIndy]

A bit of a necro, but I just ordered these. Thanks for the review, Spudknocker! Getting myself ready for Hind/Apache. Might as well fly jets the way they were intended instead of a twist stick while I wait. :D

[@joshuagarcia874]

Same here, Apache's almost here!!!

[@azcoder]

I got those pedals a few months back, they're great.

[@dutchmanace7471]

I wanna get those myself as well but I first wanna upgrade my left flightstick

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

I would like to see these used in say an Mi-24. They seem like the perfect helicopter peddle.

[@stephentarpley6841]

Enjoyed the video, thank you for your time and efforts! I'm on my 4th day of using my VKB's... I was wondering if you've tried the hard spring setting? The pedals are whisper light under my feet and was hoping that going through all the work required to change the post position would be rewarding. Currently I find that I'm pulling the rudder one way or another because I don't have both feet perfectly balanced... also, it is fatiguing holding such an ultra-light position on the pedals at all times... Is it me or am I just a wuss? Thanks in advance for your reply!

[@Spudknocker]

Hey there, I no longer use these pedals and I moved over to the thrustmaster pedals, but I always had these on the highest spring settings

[@MasterMojo85]

@@Spudknocker why did you change?

[@keepwalking6041]

for aircraft u don't need to use pedals all the time, you can just rest your feet witout having your finger part of the foot on the lever..

[@Munky332]

I wouldn't say shoes are required. I don't feel that way at least, I regularly just use socks, I just use my big toe/ball of my foot on the VERY edge of the pedal My biggest complaint is the lack of toe brakes, HOWEVER I got mine before anyone else that I'm aware of (just after they came out with the "blackbox mk1" which is the orange controller box that it plugs in to); There is virtual toe brakes however I haven't had much experience and the guidance for setting it up is terrible because russian translations are bad. I picked mine up for something like just over 100$ when they first launched them, thought I also combined mine with a Gladiator stick IIRC. I don't use the gladiator that much any more (I have a TM Warthog and Honeycomb Yoke/Throttle now as my primary flight controllers) I think they're the best budget rudders on the market, though I'm sure there's going to be other options coming out. I think these shine best in Helo operations. Flying Helo's is SOOO much better with these than anything else I've used, its far more intuitive for me to just use my toe to gently press down than "slide" my feet. like on other rudder systems.

[@johngisbourne7197]

No toe brakes is not ideal, at least I love my toe brakes. Makes taxi and slowing down after touchdown more realistic and easier too. Good vid though.

[@access_denied1082]

toe brakes are useless as you can bind anywhere, these pedals are the best on the market for the bucks.

[@johngisbourne7197]

@@access_denied1082 Aha, wonder why the real aircrafts have toe brakes then. They could "bind" them everywhere from the start I'd say.

[@access_denied1082]

@@johngisbourne7197 you don't understand, these pedals are the best in they market in terms of feasibility and simplicity if usage regardless they don't have the toe brakes. Other rudder who have also toe brakes are huge, heavy to be employed and occupy lot of space, plus they are uncomfortable ti be operated. Russian planes for examples don't have toe brakes and you can use the lever on the joystick as it is in real life

[@johngisbourne7197]

@@access_denied1082 so do we all only fly russian planes?

[@access_denied1082]

@@johngisbourne7197 no of course but if you're happy to spend 500 dollars on s toe brake rudder be my guest, For 200 you can get these vkb and bind the toe brakes to whatever they fuck you like

[@kimberlywebber5312]

Great video. How is the braking option?

[@1SaG]

They do look beautifully engineered and built... but: no toe brakes is kind of a deal-breaker for me. Plus I'm not sure about that heels-on-the-ground thing, but I guess that would probably be a matter of practice. Still.. no toe-brakes meant that I had to dish out an extra €140 or so to get me my MFG Crosswinds. Well, that and the fact that they've been out of stock at VKB EU for months now.

[@anttiruo]

I just mapped a button press to each end of the axis and I've never needed them with any sim or module. The DCS 109 is a bit twitchy on landing, I don't know if it would be any better with toe brakes. Absolutely no need for them in any jet. But you bought great pedals so congrats.

[@MrSnacko]

Why wouldn't 'No Toe Brakes' be a problem for most planes? Military or Commercial? And how were you pressing your brakes in the video? Thanks.

[@joshuagarcia874]

Cause they're used for literal brakes. Just like a car.

[@MrSnacko]

@@joshuagarcia874 .. I'm confused. Are the Rudder and Brakes one axis? On the ground it's brakes, and in the air it's rudder?

[@maxjpind]

Hey Spud, do you prefer the normal or heavy force setting on these? Just got them and am really impressed with the quality of build. Thanks for the review!

[@ThePolymath1]

at 8min 10sec in, spud stated which tension is preferable for different use cases.

[@MedusaSquadron]

Just bought two weeks ago...nice pedals and nice review. Can I ask if possible for You to share Your F-14 rudder axis settings (in DCS) and eventually others adjustments that You make in the T-Link software, because Your controls seem more precise and smooth compared to the one I use. Have You also a dead zone? Thx in advance. Bye.

[@Spudknocker]

Gabriele Ragano I have my curve set to 21 with a deadzone of 10

[@MasterUxi]

Can you share the airshow mission?

[@bdog7262]

How did you bind them in DCS? I’ve had mine over a month and still can’t get them to work. So frustrating

[@chadvader974]

Problem ive had with pedals is them slipping around on my wooden floor. How do these pedals hold up?

[@Tamburello_1994]

Um... Do helicopters count as DCS modules? Because you cannot fly them without rudder pedals, twist sticks don't work very well... Just asking.

[@Spudknocker]

Tamburello_1994 they certainly do! And I think these could be good pedals for a helo fan I’m just not a helicopter Guy

[@Epicburst]

Twist sticks work excellent actually, just need to adjust the curves how you enjoy them

[@Spudknocker]

Mousie I tried a twist stick with a helicopter and I don’t really think it’s feasible it’s actually why I bought rudder pedals in the first place more than a year agi

[@buikhan]

My vkb rudder kept go left after landing. How do I set up the sensitive setting please help. Taxi no problem but take off and landing are.

[@davehaag8175]

Dont know if i missed you saying it or not but do they have brakes?

[@Spudknocker]

They do not have toe brakes unfortunately

[@dogtaggamer1]

@@Spudknocker that makes it a no go

[@Federation42movies]

@@dogtaggamer1 Same

[@Topper_Harley68]

@@Federation42movies No brakes no deal.

[@Wh1terider]

Hello all /. @Spudknocker I know this is an old video but it still relevant today. I'm trying to get some assistance getting my VKB ultimate gunfighter and T-rudder mk4 pedals to be seen at the same time using one MK2 black box. I can only see one or the other when flashing. I've tried the VKB forums without any success. Thanks in advance. ~Mike

[@maxhammerum7705]

Little PSA - IF you are on the fence about buying these because they don't have toe brakes then don't buy them! Unless you have zero doubt that you will never want toe brakes then these are not for you because you will miss toe brakes!

[@Spudknocker]

Max Hammerum for modern jets its more than enough to have your brakes mapped to a button IMHO in Russian aircraft you don’t even need toe breaks as that’s just not how the braking system works

[@TheDNick]

@@Spudknocker Cries in tail dragger.....

[@maxhammerum7705]

Spudknocker Right about most modern jets but for the F-18 for example you really want toe-brakes because that thing skids like crazy at over 20% percent brake until 60 knots

[@Spudknocker]

@@maxhammerum7705 Ive honestly never used toe brakes in the F/A-18 but everyone has their own controls set up they prefer :-)

[@TheFri13]

@@maxhammerum7705 Do not use keyboard binding for breaks (W) in HOTAS to do breaking, instead set a button as a modifier so you can bind the pedals axis to perform toe breaks as well! With the VKB MCG it is easy, as you can bind first of the axis range of the brake leveler to act as modifier, so just little squeezing the brake lever and now your pedals are toe breaks, instead rudder. And anyways performing a accurate and good movement, the toe breaks are not required, but breaking is. As you use the nose wheel steering anyways, not the breaks. When it comes to WW2 aircrafts, again the soviet kind has the stick brake lever. And Su-27S has the brakes on pedals like on western ones.

[@ianwilliams7740]

how long do you have to weight (sic)

[@buikhan]

Does this work with MSFS2020?

[@rwhunt99]

Biggest thing about VKB is they have very small "batches" and they are always sold out. Very frustrating and it makes me nervous about support and servicing. Not interested about ordering and hoping they might come in. When I want something I get it, I don't fret whether they might have it. If they are working from a small capital money source then they are afraid of failing. Doesn't give me any confidence about the company.

[@Spudknocker]

Yep its definitely a niche high end product and there are some issues inherent with that.

[@boblon5693]

my vkb stick got to the us in 3 days, and they are pretty decent customer support wise...the worst customer support actually comes from thrustmaster. getting my stick repaired took 6 months and only happened after i had to threaten to sue to get them to fix there product after a faulty board failed 3 months after buying

[@Topper_Harley68]

What is that virtual brakes they talk about?

[@Sokol10]

Is VKB T-Link software brake emulation, in what you set a joystick (or throttle) button for press two virtual R and L axes simultaneous. In game assign this two virtual axes for right and left wheel brakes. Playing press the button, will brake both wheels equals, but if move rudder for R or L will brake just the wheel or this side.

[@favioalex]

the IRIAF doesent have F14B

[@Spudknocker]

Yes that is for sure, the video is slightly fictional in that regard, in the video I made up the fictional scenario that Iran had their F-14's re-engined with AL-31F's, the closest Russian Equivalent to the GE F-110. I just think that the Asia Minor camo looks really cool on the F-14 and I wanted to show off the very cool skin that Sadjad Vosoul created and posted to the ED Website. www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3304408/

[@Specter0420]

That flicker makes the video unwatchable.

[@Spudknocker]

I have no idea why that is happening :-( The video file I exported from Premiere does not have the issue

[@OrangeSkeleton1]

Spudknocker what format is premier exporting? MP4?

[@Spudknocker]

Aviator_Psands yep standard MP4 nothing different from any of my other vids

[@yutongfang3712]

Really thank you for your comment, I checked many time if my laptop broke.hahha

[@Spudknocker]

Specter0420 flickering is resolved seems to have been an issue on YT’s end which really sucks

[@danielguerrero4121]

its wait not weight

[@jarisipilainen3875]

without break? i can build that easy. breaks are harder. cost too much without breaks

[@mackan072]

I mean, the video appears to be something I'd like to watch, but that flickering, unfortunately, makes it 100% unwatchable to me :c

[@Spudknocker]

mackan072 ya I don’t know why the hell its happening, I think KZbin messed it up

[@Spudknocker]

mackan072 hey man flickering is resolved should be able to watch it!

[@mackan072]

@@Spudknocker Ooooh, nice :) I'll add it to my watch later and come back to it later, thanks for the update!

[@Spudknocker]

mackan072 no problem I apologize for the issue!

[@Jim610]

Lack of toe brakes are a deal breaker for me. We buy pedals to increase realism. These are a half hearted attempt at that IMHO.

[@tswdev]

Russian aircraft dont have toe brakes. Maybe find a non-russian pedal set. The brake is on the stick. Check the stick from the same company.

[@Jim610]

@@tswdev I don't fly Russian aircraft! Hence my statement.

[@tswdev]

@@Jim610 Why complain about lack of realism if its realistic for a Russian rudder pedals set not to have toe brakes?

[@Jim610]

@@tswdev I didn't complain, I made a statement from my point of view. If you have an issue with that then fine. End off!

[@tswdev]

@@Jim610 You said its not realistic and that its a "half hearted attempt". Not the case at all.

[@Vandallolwut]

Breaking?