Flydigi Vader 4 Pro - The Best of 2024?

[@muhdbala9528]

Never clicked so fast! Great video as always 👍

[@gadadolofonoi]

We finally got the review! Well done, as always comprehensive and well-explained.

[@ProNerdy]

Had to wait for you to review the V4 Pro before purchasing, the option to get rid of stick snapback is awesome to see!

[@VKsChannel]

Thanks! I wish I could review it sooner If there's a controller you'd like to see a review let me know

[@ProNerdy]

@@VKsChannel I can't think of a specific controller, but I'd be interested in how you store all your controllers

[@VKsChannel]

@@ProNerdy I don't have much space to store thousands of controllers like the gamer heaven channel so I keep some that I really like and the others I sell after the review is done

[@michaelpeterson4880]

Easysmx x20😊​@@VKsChannel

[@tototots2190]

@@VKsChannelyou going to keep this one or sell?

[@elishaduncan2479]

Great review mane i love those controller for flydigi i been playing with it for a while now and it's up there with the best of the best.

[@DmitryCee]

It's here! Great review as usual! Especially the teardown part.

[@Adam-pk7go]

Im very glad i found this, trying to get full details on the the stick accuracy, latency, and software is very difficult. Thanks for the comprehensive review

[@Musab_StreamsTTV]

The dpad is actually removable, but it does take a lot more force to get it off. I got my controller on Saturday the 21st of December and immediately went to tweaking the rings, pulling off the dpad carefully and it just popped off and clicked back in place after i dropped the dpad back into its slot. I may pick up more but in the meantime the default is good enough.

[@tokooltoread]

Another banger of an informative, in-depth controller video!

[@kklum6998]

Very thorough review. Kudos.

[@lucal7756]

Got mine finally, and it's an amazing controller indeed! The only few things I don't like are: 1) with BT/XInput mode remapped keyboard keys won't work 😣(only cable/dongle!), 2) there is no button combination to switch/adjust turbo speed, turbo button, change Macros, vibration intensity, swap square/circle stick modes on the fly, and you must configure them with software only (controller fw 6.9.3.3). Hope to see some fw updates... Absolutely recommended in the end!

[@kratos21491]

Haha Just like others was waiting for this one. Thanks a lot man.

[@goobatroopa_]

This is a fantastic review. Great job demonstrating the stick rebounce with slow mo visual on controller + testing screen. I don't think the function settings transfer to switch mode. At least the rebounce algorithm doesn't work as the rebounce is consistantly there when tested on the switch stick tester. I love the Vader 4 but if you're getting a controller only for switch there are more suitable options.

[@bakkuappu]

The DPAD is actually still removable on the Vader 4 Pro.

[@poopie5719]

I love this controller, recently got it and modified it with taller flydigi sticks, grip tape on practically everything, skull % co. Thumb grips, and replaced the dpad with whe white apex 4 one since I have the assassins creed version and I think it looks better like that, also I added a paddle mod to mine and it just makes the back buttons so much better and I recommend adding metal back padles for the vader 4 specifically (the best controller I’ve tried)

[@Edward_89r]

Have this pad for 5 days. 10/10 from me.Price and quality 🔥

[@maybebutwhatever]

2:24 they actually change texture of the grips. Now it's similar to xbox series gamepads which is awesome. Finally a flydigi gamepad that's feels nice to hold. For me it one of the best things that changed 😁

[@toonoobtobepro527]

You can get talon grips which feels the best

[@maybebutwhatever]

@@toonoobtobepro527 I'm good with what comes stock here. Not really a fan of any stickers

[@AnonYmous-uk5jv]

@@toonoobtobepro527 I got these, Apply easily and make it feel much nicer, particularly for sweaty mitts.

[@rinosurber7919]

Make a test about BigBigWon Blitz 2... i allready ordered one. I will see. I'm curious about your opinion about it.

[@VKsChannel]

I'm trying to get one soon

[@boristeplitskiy7632]

How do you like it? Iam thinking of giving it a shot

[@lukafireman]

Do the Victrix Pro BFG as well, please

[@rayku22]

This seemed like the perfect controller for me, since the elites cant seem to stop breaking, then i found out it has connection issues

[@Hoodzerino]

Something to mention: The usb stick that comes with it, uses 2ghz wifi. It actually blocks all wifi signals around it, when you connect the controller. Keep that in mind. I had to send mine back unfortunately. Loved the controller tho!

[@slargo83]

Weird, it's supposed to use digital hopping to pick an open frequency

[@Hree]

Great, straightforward and very informative!!! I like this review more than the other guy who tries to be funny by losing focus and getting sidetracked at the most random things.

[@shaundasheepmurphy1589]

Received mine yesterday and it is by far the best controller on the marker, it is awesome, having used the Elite 2 for years and trying the Razer Wolverine (sent it back) the Vader 4 Pro is truly a masterpiece of a controller, its taking some time to get used to the rear buttons having used the Elite series but I have only had it a day and already I think the positioning is better, the triggers at the mouse click mode are super responsive, the stick tensioners are far superior than the Elite 2

[@Y_G_R_E_K]

Yo , what game u playing ? Warzone? Cod ? How did u config it ?

[@shaundasheepmurphy1589]

@@Y_G_R_E_K I play COD with it and configured it using the software off their website, very easy to do, so user friendly

[@Y_G_R_E_K]

@ I mean whats config did u put on your vader like circular / rectangular etc

[@shaundasheepmurphy1589]

@@Y_G_R_E_K So keep the stick sensitivity curve default, Rectangle circularity, I have my tensioners set at notch 2 left stick and notch 7 right stick, thats after 'min'. In game i play 6-5 with dynamic response curve and curve slope set at 0.40, with ADS sensitivity at 0.85. These are my personal preferences, I used to play Linear/Precision in MW3 but Linear is not the same in BO6

[@redsungaming]

​@shaundasheepmurphy1589 I'm between vader 4 pro and wolverine v3 wich one is better and why ? 2 extra buttons Or the tightening or joysticks ...

[@mrshavartv]

How do the back buttons feel!????

[@hantuan107]

i immediately throw my old xbox one controller to the trash after trying this, no joke. it's that good

[@williamardley491]

Does it work on Xbox series x

[@icyneechee]

You didn't say whether it Works on the Xbox Series X...so does it ???

[@animosity2284]

It doesnt

[@animosity2284]

Needs an adapter for it to work on Xbox

[@raiden15crew85]

Good for you for acquiring the Ultimate Weapon. I've the ACIV: BF Edition.

[@vanhne26]

The dpad can remove,just kinda hard to take it out,im using keycap puller to put the dpad out.

[@napa1m209]

what size screw driver did you use at 21:56?

[@VKsChannel]

A philips screwdriver (+ shape)

[@napa1m209]

@@VKsChannel do you know the size though? I have several screwdrivers but they seem too big to actually even fit

[@theandroidsoldier000]

This is the go to multiplatform controller hands down.

[@J0rdan912]

Hi VK, I see a debounce option in Flydigi software that removes constant jitters and running numbers, making it always rest at perfect ~0.0002. But my PS4 and PS5 controllers with stock joysticks, always had that "jittering" and it's always constant running numbers on gamepad tester website, just like at 13:50, never resting at ~0.003 or whatever it's supposed to be for PS controllers, tho sticks works perfectly fine. Can you tell what is it? Is this normal for PS controllers or I have some faulty controllers? Should I worry about those constant micro-jitters and movements?

[@VKsChannel]

Yeah this is normal and some consoles will even filter this noise I think this is the case for the ps5

[@xenith8762]

Hi, how would you compare this with Machenike G5 Pro? Is it worth the premium price?

[@nicholasaudy6064]

Machenike is garbage, see his recent video, it looks like a cheap plastic controller. Just pay the extra $$ and you'll get a much better controller. Vader 4 Pro feels like a 1st party controller in quality

[@xenith8762]

@@nicholasaudy6064 thanks for the heads up, will save for vader 4 pro instead

[@Ejp23_]

Whats the best d-pad for fighting games in your opinion??

[@geenaxion]

About to get mine in just a couple of days. The only thing i don't like is the back button placement, so I'm gonna get one of those back paddles mod for this.

[@KeonCojuangco]

Why is my Vader 4 Pro recognized as Vader 3 Pro Eva? Is it just mine?

[@Paman2K]

very good review . about to grab vader 4

[@CaptnYestrday]

Can you address stick outer Dead zone and stick latency issues? A firmware update should have fixed these, but they were biggest problems with the controller. I haven't seen anyone updating their reviews so can't tell or no if these issues have really been fixed

[@VKsChannel]

I reviewed with the latest update so the results you see are already with the fixes

[@ninelivesysf]

You are a godsend

[@Koosh604]

Does anyone know what Kontrol Freak thumb sticks fit on the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro?

[@aahhahbiaoia7659]

Yes with ps4 kfreak

[@t1czer]

I remember my Razer Onza and Razer Sabertooth. When Saber died i looked for something to replace it and got disappeared with what Razer sells now. Tried Microsoft gamepads and they sucked too... For now i have some cabled controllers with 2 extra buttons (i need them). Now I'm waiting for Vader to see how it feels like.

[@lucal7756]

18:28 what's the grip effect? They look the same with "Controller Vibration" ON/OFF in the video...

[@VKsChannel]

@@lucal7756 with controller grip on you have vibration on the controller and triggers Set to off just the triggers vibrate

[@darkavera]

For me , to multiplayer gameplay is my favorite. Have cons, like disconection bug and app of Android is a trash. But the controller is Very good with your brother Apex 4.

[@Chonkeeartist9001]

Flydigi needs to have their controllers compatible with real PS5 games already. Just make them work, I could live without adaptive triggers but having NOT to deal with analog drift is already an improvement. Please Flydigi, do your magic! 🙏🙏🙏

[@foulspud3258]

For the life of me I cannot find anywhere that mentions the function button in the software or how to change a button based on whether the fn button is pressed in the software either

[@VKsChannel]

the function button is to activate the air mouse in D input mode, and you cannot use it to remap buttons sadly, you have to always connect it to the pc

[@Ogk10]

In n switch mode can it connect to a PC with the stick or does it require Bluetooth?

[@VKsChannel]

Yes on switch mode it will be detected as a pro controller but it can only connect via bluetooth not with the dongle I think

[@SaffronHorizon]

The Apex's select button seems to be more easily accessed compared to the Vader

[@xlFINESSINlx]

What settings are recommended for shooters like rainbow six which has no aim assist at all? 12 bit or lower? And any other settings that will help with gun control? Please and thank you.

[@OhKaiizer]

Hey, thanks for your in depth video. I was just wondering how sensitive the tension adjustment-rings really are. At 3:05 it looks like you can really not change it on accident that easily because its quite tight and you even used 2 fingers for "ease" of turning. i dont want to "speculate" tho and was wondering if you could tell me a bit more about that? Thanks!

[@VKsChannel]

On the more loose its easy to move but if you tighten it just a bit it becomes hard to move by accident

[@tranner85]

Thanks for the review. Can you also review the EasySMX X20?

[@harisabdullah7230]

Is configuration on pc work in android?

[@FangTheFunky]

Can I ask what you record your videos with? A camera? A phone?

[@VKsChannel]

a Phone, Galaxy S20 FE

[@FangTheFunky]

@VKsChannel hell yeah. That's what I do as well but my videos don't look as clean as yours. Guess I need better and softer lighting

[@JickBacGuRi]

Thanks for good review! is the highest polling rate setting required in Bluetooth mode as well? If not, what polling rate is best to set?

[@Senopi989]

Prob one of the best controller ive used

[@knasiotis1]

Best controller I ever used

[@VKsChannel]

Flydigi is awesome

[@astrea555]

Where do I even buy one in EU.. this thing seems only sold on some suspicious looking online stores. Also I already installed Flydigi's software and it looks like it's conflicting with DS4W. On a single computer I'm planning to use this Vader 4 and keep my Dualsense around but it's gonna be very annoying to switch between the two controllers.

[@thelolrus7491]

Aliexpress. It's a chinese product, you are just getting upcharged if you buy from more 'local' sellers elsewhere. But wait a bit for the hype to die down. Even the V3P price has shot up from this release. When I got my Vader 3 Pro on Ali like 4-5 months ago it was $45 and now it's going for ~$65, which is more on par with domestic resale prices.

[@gridselix]

Flydigi has in board memory. Just set the profile into the controller and then quit the software on your pc

[@TenkaichiMeister]

@@gridselix Not really works on my end. When I set Macros to the back buttons (keyboard inputs) and I'm not having the software open in the background they don't work

[@drconflict629]

@@gridselix Yes, but it does not work for keyboard shortcuts without having the crappy spacestation app running in the background.

[@OhKaiizer]

i found a site that looks fairly good and has international shipping with good prices it seems. Ill buy one soon but cant 100% vouch so far

[@gi11otine]

Review the BIGBIG WON Blitz 2 TMR controller!

[@user-mfsc-2024]

Are all the settings from the software stored in the controller firmware itself ?

[@VKsChannel]

Yes

[@MonderMatrix]

a well do review . since this is a new design we can't tell how longs the sticks will last , but even the desing flaw on the apex , i think this one seem it will last less or at least will change over time , cuz friction is relaying on lupe and over time this might become an early point failure , but we´ll never know now , that is still early .

[@MrDoordude125]

I have a question for you. Any chance you know if the Vader 4 pro can use 1000hz polling rate while in Dinput mode? The controller can switch between Dinput and Xinput by holding the circle button next to the home button along with either the X or A button for 5 seconds

[@toolanddie9789]

I just got one. Let me say, there's a back paddles mod, to make it similar to an Xbox elite controller. Also added grip tape. It's better than me xbox elite, and my aimcontroller!

[@Saggingpear4068]

I got the controller before it was sold out and I can’t even use mine in Bluetooth mode. It literally lags out like the response starts delaying really bad and the only way that it’s responsive is if I plug it in it’s an amazing controller, but that part really makes me mad but $80 can’t beat it but still

[@VKsChannel]

Could be issues with your bluetooth card or adapter

[@junatanscott9457]

maybe I'm gonna wait for the apex 5😻 still happy with my apex 4 😻

[@tgordon681]

Should probably note that the stick latency is higher than the buttons.

[@strion5990]

How's the durability of the gamepad itself?

[@VKsChannel]

Its very durable The previous version from last year the vader 3 pro is still pristine to this day

[@JoaoMXN]

It's more durable than the Vader 3 Pro, as it doesn't have springs in the sticks, which could worn out and give drift, as some users reported.

[@Grimlo9ic]

4:31 Hey VK, the dpad on the V4P is still removable. I have the silver dpad from the V3P on mine because I think it looks better.

[@VKsChannel]

Are you sure? Mine didn't come of Perhaps it is stuck...

[@Grimlo9ic]

@@VKsChannel My Imgur link keeps getting deleted, so I'll just say yes, it's removable. It's on there tight but once you remove it the first time, it loosens up. It has the same support structure underneath.

[@VKsChannel]

@@Grimlo9ic Yeah i just confirmed it is removable, It just was REALLY stuck on my unit

[@willy7968]

@@Grimlo9ic is the one on the vader 3 pro removable also?

[@Grimlo9ic]

@@willy7968 Yes, it's removable.

[@gennarinopugliese7091]

For xbox ?

[@akazaaaa]

Analog is hall effect?

[@cyrusfilemu659]

Yes

[@IIXxSLAYERxXII]

This or the Apex 4 Black Myth? Black Myth definitely looks better made in terms of quality etc than the standard 4.

[@pokemario8673]

Sorry that Nyxi can’t sent you the warrior anymore. But you can still personally purchase it off of their website or an Amazon. Did you know that the Nyxi Warrior uses optical switches?

[@VKsChannel]

Based on what I've seen from other reviews I still don't think they nailed the gamecube ergonomics correctly and this is the most important thing on a gamecube controller Doyoki and nyxi both still fails at this

[@pokemario8673]

@@VKsChannel you know your job is too tell everyone about the truth right? Besides this controller also work on the GameCube and Wii

[@Xamy-]

@@pokemario8673? What do you mean.

[@pokemario8673]

None of the other reviews did any teardowns

[@pokemario8673]

And I need to find out where can I find these optical switches I looked everywhere on Google, but no avail

[@ivan-j4l9x]

The apex 4 feels so much better. The extra weight effects the actuation feel of the buttons. It's weird because side by side they seem identical.

[@tomgreene5388]

Paying double for the apex is not worth it at all

[@ivan-j4l9x]

@@tomgreene5388 it's not double from AliExpress. This isn't a debate about price. I have the Vader 4. It's a cool controller. I was just pointing out how surprised I was at the feel considering they are so similar in shape.

[@Amon-gh1ex]

dude, apex 4 is more expensive, nearly double price

[@ivan-j4l9x]

@@Amon-gh1ex and?

[@VKsChannel]

In defense of the apex 4 it has rubberized grips the design is very cool and the triggers works just like a dualsense controller Sure you can get a dualsense to experience that but flydigi also adds manual suport to games that aren't compatible It feels and looks more premium

[@JonBorpa]

Does it have Hall effect sticks?

[@margaronedario9003]

Yes

[@lucal7756]

Please, test also BT connectivity with PC Windows and check it supports XBox Wireless Controller mode in BT too. That's good for gaming laptop users who wants to play without dongle/cable.

[@VKsChannel]

It does support xinput via bluetooth

[@ALLINHP]

Hello hello! I bought a Vader 4 Pro, everything is fine in it, but I don't understand what's wrong with the vibration, some kind of unpleasant buzzing is coming from, is everyone the same? Or is it just me?!

[@VKsChannel]

That is weird can you record a video? Send it to me on the channel's discord

[@seaneckhart9914]

Ive been through 5 of this controller and still havent found one with consistent feeling. Face buttons and triggers are either scratchy or mushy or both. Classic chinese manufacturing

[@felipeborges830]

Nice review! I have this controller, its awesome for fightin game (and any other game)... I'm waiting for Fatal Fury City of The Wolves from SNK, because thats the game I'll be using this the most outside of KoF2002UM

[@ryozaki96]

Is this kind of disc D-Pad good in fighting games? compared to the DualSense D-Pad?

[@TyrantTiger85]

​@@ryozaki96 never

[@Home-Grown]

Can you get the vader 4 pro software on a mobile device to re map the back buttons if you dont have pc?. Also Will xbox kontrol freeks fit?.

[@VKsChannel]

Currently no you can only remap through pc

[@MrDoordude125]

Any chance you can review the BIGBIG Won blitz 2? Looks like a very good FPS controller

[@VKsChannel]

Trying to get one soon

[@QwecySlim]

Hey VK thanks for the review, I'm planning on buying the Vader 4 pro in addition to my Vader 3 pro. I wanted to know if it's possible to connect the 2 controllers at the same time on the app? And also will one dongle work for both of them? Thanks

[@VKsChannel]

No it supports only one controller on the dongle On the app I haven't tested yet

[@QwecySlim]

@VKsChannel Ok thanks

[@bleach4life217]

I wish they could make this controller just without the rotational dpad technology. It causes a lot of input errors in fighting games.

[@VKsChannel]

it is limited by firmware you can't hit all 4 buttons

[@bleach4life217]

@@VKsChannel the issue is that you would have to have insane accuracy to not accidentally tilt the dpad disc diagonally. Maybe some can play accurately, but i think most including myself will have occasional errors so id really still rather have the 4 way

[@bleach4life217]

@@VKsChannel and the dpad disc itself kinda sucks

[@VKsChannel]

@@bleach4life217 yeah flydigi could make another option but I can use it fine without any problems, perhaps you will like the machenike G5 pro V2 more, it has a cross dpad instead of a disc

[@bleach4life217]

@@VKsChannel thanks for the alternative. I should also mention that I play 2D fighter games

[@ReMormo]

I ordered the version with the assassin

[@--AISAKA]

cant wait for you to review the new Hori's Steam Controller. :P

[@VKsChannel]

Is it even worth it?

[@iconic_wish8698]

is it possible to use on xbox with cronus?

[@VKsChannel]

yes

[@X_KingPapzak_YT]

what is better flydig vader 4 pro or flydigi apex 4

[@ZimpanX]

Vader 4 Pro unless you need the screen of the Apex 4 for on the fly remapping Advantages of the Vader 4 Pro are mouse click triggers, less wobbly (more stable) face buttons, extra C and Z buttons and a more elegant solution of adjusting stick tension.

[@VKsChannel]

I still like the sticks on the apex 4 more But the vader 4 pro is not bad

[@Yamnat-m4v]

VK bro, hows it going ? I have been waiting for your review. My vader 4 pro is yet to get shipped and got delayed multiple times due to no stocks, I will be deciding now if I should cancel or keep the order. Keep it up my man !!!

[@VKsChannel]

If you have the apex4 you can skip the vader 4 pro Unless you really like the clicky triggers and C and Z buttons

[@Yamnat-m4v]

@@VKsChannel I have vader 3 pro

[@VKsChannel]

@@Yamnat-m4v if it is still working than you don't really need to change, the new analog sticks are great and some of the settings are nice too especially if you play mostly shooters and maybe smash, but I don't see them making a big difference on any other kind of game

[@andreylisogor3532]

vader 4 pro 45usd vs easysmx x20 for 25usd? what to choose for nintendo switch?

[@VKsChannel]

Vader 4

[@andreylisogor3532]

@VKsChannel ok, as i understand now that 20usd difference compensated by better quality and software support?

[@imleozx2808]

Do I have to eject the dongle properly ? Or I can eject it straight away without any issue.

[@VKsChannel]

I just unplug it and it works fine

[@mikenzo722]

Please unbox and review the Gamesir Tarantula Pro. Thank you!

[@VKsChannel]

Coming soon

[@cerberus_uwu]

Good video! - decent controller.. but personally i prefer the Flydigi Apex 4

[@Keemochi420]

do you have any recommendation what controllers is great for big hands :D

[@VKsChannel]

Theres a pink one from dareu I've reviewed here Its not the best controller but it is very chunky and good for those with big hands

[@Keemochi420]

@@VKsChannel okok imma check it out. god! i've been trying so hard to find a controller that is chunky specially me living in SEA were majority people have cute hands 🤣

[@KenLaKen]

this might be a stupid question but I couldn't find the answer anywhere- this works on xbox series or just pc?

[@abdoulaye8709]

Vcuda on KZbin has a review and answers your question

[@gingersnaps7186]

Just pc

[@stevensv4864]

bro when u gonna get any controller with new TMR sticks i want to know ur detail review of thse

[@VKsChannel]

I already reviewed them 🤣

[@stevensv4864]

@@VKsChannel i mean new controller with them not old one with gulikit hehe. like PB Tails Crush Defender or Gamesir Tarantula

[@pawes7418]

You can OC vader 4 pro in switch mode to achieve 1000hz gyro :D but wired xD

[@ZaRaven]

I can't find info on a chatpad like support/compatibility anywhere. Anyone knows if I can plug my Chatpad like on Elite 2, or other 3rd party mini keyboard? Thanks.

[@balikif]

My Vader 4 Pro came with stick drift and jitter at the test panel in the flydigi app the pulling rate is at 200-300 hz when the controller on the desk without touching it.. I tried to reset and collaborating it but nothing worked only increasing the dead zone

[@VKsChannel]

I heard flydigi has worked on an update to improve the deadzones Have you updated it?

[@talesthesalesman3106]

so can i play steam games on my gaming laptop with this?

[@matiassanz4972]

hey no one answered but did you find somewhere if it works with steam?

[@talesthesalesman3106]

@matiassanz4972 I was told yes

[@Bootlegvibes]

good controller but back paddles are not that good, had to make custom ones on mine feels way better now

[@Xepherion]

Is the pc app safe?

[@VKsChannel]

Well I checked the installation file via the virustotal website and its ok

[@vianmaro6732]

FINALLY!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE BIRTH.

[@dankl3ss194]

Can it last for 4 years?

[@VKsChannel]

Yes

[@user-mfsc-2024]

There are custom keyboard manufacturer use web for keyboard cofniguration. I like to joystick manufacturer to go for the same path without installing a software for configuration

[@vuhuy8952]

this layout have c and z button is better than the layout 2 bonus button near trigger

[@junjun-xr5nb]

I'm so curious about the apex2 pubg mobile settings When can you upload it? Please...