Vladimir Putin's war against Russia: interview with Evgenia Kara-Murza | Ukraine: The Latest | Pod

Day 649.
Today, we bring you the latest military, diplomatic and political updates from Ukraine and across the world and we sit down with Evgenia Kara Murza.
Evgenia is a Russian human rights activist and wife of political prisoner Vladimir Kara-Murza, a Russian and British political activist who has been imprisoned since April 2022 for protesting the war on Ukraine. In April 2023, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison. We spoke to Evgenia about her husband’s campaigning, his arrest, detention, and the brutal realities of Vladimir Putin’s regime.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Head of Audio Development). @DJKnowles22 on Twitter.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on Twitter.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter.
Evgenia Kara-Murza (Russian human rights activist). @ekaramurza on Twitter. Evgenia is the wife of political prisoner Vladimir Kara-Murza, a prominent Russian-British opposition leader, who has been imprisoned since April 2022. In April 2023 he was sentenced to 25 years in prison.
Many of our listeners have raised concerns over the potential sale of Telegraph Media Group to the Abu Dhabi-linked Redbird IMI. We are inviting the submission of comments on the process. Email [e-mail] or [e-mail] to have your say.
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[@Azov777]

Thanks from a English man in Ukraine

[@HungryGhost999]

🇬🇧🇺🇦🫡

[@chrisboyd4171]

Such a powerful, clear & supportive message that this lady being interviewed makes, regarding her Russian husband being unjustly imprisoned in Russia, for exposing the truth about Putin's brutal regime.

[@alberarthure]

He is not Russian. He has never identified himself with us and he is a noviop (a mix of Russian and Georgian), who has consciously waged an information war against our people all his life and who hates Russian people.

[@pierresaelen3097]

This was impassioned, well argued and very memorable. She is a great testimony to her husband. Deep respect and great admiration for both spouses.

[@darinmeritt3790]

​@alberarthure Stalin was Georgian

[@alberarthure]

@@darinmeritt3790 I am against the cult of Stalin. He is one of the most controversial figures in our history. Yes, he was georgian, most of the members of the upper "politburo" were not russians and were somehow criminals in imperial Russia who rose to power after the revolution

[@Ayan7Stalin]

There mainy stories of west in syra i And iraq Japan

[@darinmeritt3790]

The UAE should not be allowed to buy The Telegraph!

[@saimbhat6243]

Lol. If your highness demands so, then why not.

[@phillipneale5256]

Whoever buys it must not be allowed to shut down intelligent even handed free speech, It could be written into the contract.

[@sammenter1]

Absolutely, being undemocratic should disqualify them from buying the Telegraph

[@sujac664]

😳 what?.... I missed something.... the Telegraph is for sale? Why would the UAE want it, can't they just create their own? TheTelegraph owned by UAE, would no longer be TheTelegraph as it is now, but would be news&reporting according to UAE style&standards..... It would be just as weird as the UK buying Al Bayan (for eg) ...surely the only reason you'd do that, is in the hope of influencing the local population under the name of an already established news logo🤔

[@reggienoble3195]

I love that closing thought by Evgenia about her husband's optimism "My optimism is not misinformed but the optimism of a historian who has seen things time & time again in the history of human civilization..."

[@Beatles68]

Your program and your guest are excellent. Highly recommend!

[@atomic3141]

David. Don and Francis never miss your broadcast. Journalism as a whole hasn't been around for quite a bit here. The realities of life's bizarre moments take on a quality that lets tyranny strut confidently about without approval or false pretense. Only a few achieve their name being used centuries after their mortal body turns to worm meal to curse others.

[@HungryGhost999]

Great comment.

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Well said Evgenia👍👍

[@kacee3352]

Mrs Kara Murza's a brilliant woman. Although she's a light against the darkness that are Putin & those fighting for him in Ukraine, she gives me hope on Russians.🙏🏾 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦🔱💪🏾

[@gdiwolverinemale4th]

Those in Russia who support her position are mostly Jey wish. They have no place in Russia

[@daydays12]

I fear the majority of " Russians " are indifferent... and the fact that the Kremlin reckons that posting adverts showing the gifting of a refrigerator to the widow of a husband killed in Ukraine will be received positively!! Russian 'values'!!

[@snd7622]

She's Muslim

[@HomesteadViewin]

Canada Stands with Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@tad27612]

I thought Canada stood with Ukrainian SS.

[@garymccormick7551]

Yes we all seen the standing ovation.

[@bm-kb8kh]

Trudolf also! Slava kokaine.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

@@garymccormick7551 Well, we are doing more than just cheerleading, we have sent economic, humanitarian, and military aid, and we will send more, but words have power too. Slava Ukraini! (from Canada)

[@matt38]

Well Canada does already offer a safe place for Ukrainian war criminals, even gave one a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament. 🤔🤣😂🤣

[@LODOWICKMUGGLETON]

Maybe the best so far of this series, thanks to the eloquent Evgenia.

[@carolwilliams8511]

Agree 😊

[@rickwardrop1877]

Important and thought provoking discussion.

[@alanchristensen5735]

Thanks for bringing this guest on today. It's incredible how some people are willing to go into the dragons lair and speak truth to power. SLAVA UKRAINI from the United States

[@gdiwolverinemale4th]

How about the US releasing J6 prisoners who were nonviolent and paying compensation to them? Or the UK releasing people jailed for speaking against the government's population replacement agenda? Project Ukraine is nothing to be glorified. It is a terrible fiasco for the US and NATO

[@Cuzthatwouldbeweird]

Surely Putin's jet could have been knocked out of the sky

[@frankshailes3205]

Britain is supporting Saudi Arabia while they make plans with Putin against the Free World.

[@alanchristensen5735]

I was thinking the same thing. One surface to air missile.

[@samsungtap4183]

It was escorted by 5 SU-37s with 100km+ radar and those babies can fight !

[@kimepp2216]

I do believe there are Houti rebels to blame.

[@burritosls]

@@samsungtap4183 2, not 5

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Most critical today is amount of ammunition,gear Ukraine have..Russia is on attack mode around Avdiivk,Bachmut and other places and they WILL continue to push with waves of attacks..in a month or so Ukraine can be in a VERY DIFFICULT an DANGEROUS situation if they dont have ammunition to hit back those waves of attacks..frustrating!!🇺🇦❤️💯

[@frankshailes3205]

Meanwhile America's House of Representatives have ceased support and withdrawn aid. Putin is laughing. America has put her NATO allies in danger. An unreliable and untrustworthy "friend".

[@Kath-nd6pj]

And the planes. Are they not due soon? Or is the mess in the US Parliament holding them back too?

[@midimusicforever]

Russia, get rid of Putler!

[@dimas3829]

USA, get rid of Blinden!

[@burritosls]

Ukraine, get rid of dictator Clownsky!

[@sujac664]

@@dimas3829 Why?

[@sujac664]

@@burritosls Who's "dictator Clownsky"?...... I didn't know there was a dictator in Ukraine😳..... and what an unfortunate name -Clownsky 😬 ...is that a russ or Ukr family name? -it sounds a lot like 'clown' 🤣 SlavaUkraini🫡HeroyamSlava👊🏼🇺🇦

[@casard5235]

Just watched this again, again and can't seem to tire of H. P. L. Well worth it😊

[@crimeajewel]

Ukraine has their game together. Time for the west to step up to the challenge.

[@jeanadams1667]

No negotiations except on Ukraine's terms. Slava Ukraini!

[@samsungtap4183]

Well just keep sending old men and untrained women to the front ?

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

Evgenia Kara-Murza is well spoken and convincing. Her husband is courageous. Apparently not all Russians are cowards. It's so true that Putin is not only trying to destroy Ukraine, but he's also destroying Russia. Real Russian patriots need to step up and tell Putin where to go. It's not likely to happen but it would be a good thing. Slava Ukraini!

[@burritosls]

Apparently not all Ukrainians are cowards. It's so true that Zelensky is not only trying to destroy Russia, but he's also destroying Ukraine. Real Ukrainian patriots need to step up and tell Zelensky where to go. It's not likely to happen but it would be a good thing. Glory to Russia!!

[@snd7622]

Over 400 000 young, strong Ukrainian men is hiding in Poland instead of fighting. THEY ARE COWARDS.

[@a13xdunlop]

The US would not accept Russia on their border, why should Russia accept NATO on its. It is no more complicated than that.

[@stephenhill545]

​@@a13xdunlopThe nato countries on russias border have bitter recent experience of Russias lack of respect for their borders. That's why they joined nato. Your fault for being naughty. But taking responsibility for your actions is not your strong point.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

@@a13xdunlop The far east of Russia and the far West of Alaska, USA are actually very close. One could even say that they are bordering each other right now. Oh, and it's not up to Russia to decide who can and can't join NATO. Countries bordering Russia WANT TO join because Russia acts so irresponsibly.

[@carolwilliams8511]

And Western politicians are discussing whether or not to continue aiding Ukraine in fighting for freedom and democracy. This is insane.

[@dimas3829]

...yes, because it's extremely corrupt shithole and despite Zelenskiy's promises they did nothing to change that. Also he's very much afraid of elections cause Zaluzniy would win such, not him, so there is no democracy there and regarding freedom - borders are closed and military aged man are grabbed from the streets, so there's that.

[@sammenter1]

It’s crazy!

[@madeleinesuzette]

🇺🇦🇺🇦🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘💪

[@jameswilson1363]

Maybe he didnt feel it was as "Secure" as it would normally be. It`s very strange, considering the ramification, if any.

[@peter-eriksmids9152]

Stay with Ukraine forever. For their freedom.

[@W_Bin]

How long was Putin in the UAE for?

[@casard5235]

Evgenia shows her love for her husband and, as a proponent of his and her beliefs in this interview. I hope these beliefs, statements echo and ring true with Ukraine's allies. Think hard peoples. Unite and free the world from these conflicts. I'm not talking about a video game here. People are suffering and dying the world over. Stop complacency, embrace resolve. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

[@carolwilliams8511]

Totally!! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@dimas3829]

People are suffering cause US created a coup in sovereign country, making it their puppet and targeting Russia with it to fight to the last Ukrainian.

[@Kath-nd6pj]

Francis, I take Putin’s remark re in future better health care to mean, distance re fear of the COVID virus. To distract from the more probable reason be fear of being poisoned. I noticed that in Saudi Arabia or the UAE he was not that bothered about keeping germ free! So only Moscow seems to be that unhygienic.

[@usun_current5786]

I think GRU should deal with this traitor as they usually do.

[@murraymallinson1337]

We live or die by the decisions we make. It was his decision to go back and his suffering at the moment is of no good to anyone

[@APW554]

Agreed he would have been able to have done far more outside jail. But understand his reasons to return to Russia ,a very brave man.

[@jimboAndersenReviews]

Vladimir Kara-Murza would be on the top of my list for candidacy for the Nobel Peace Prize; but that is not for me to decide.

[@burritosls]

Vladimir Kara-Murza is a traitor to the motherland. Why should he be rewarded?

[@annbjorn]

Great interview

[@stevenpace892]

I agree that recognition of attrocities of the USSR was needed, but also the corruption, which is really part of the same thing. Then a reconciliation with the west would be possible. In one generation Russia could be rebuilt. Look at Germany.

[@Kath-nd6pj]

Several things were different with Germany. War has not been taken to Russia. Ukraine has enough to do. They only want Russia out of their land. Shifts within Russia will have to be political, not from outside imposed war ones. Putin has been consolidating ties and influence with other anti-USA and anti-democracy countries. ‘Us against them(democracies) telling us how to live’. I t is not only Putin. The .Kremlin is very anti-democracy atm. Putin’s speciality is KGB style influence. His meeting now with Iran , has been timed to spook the USA into believing they may additionally be getting aggression from them. Discouraging even more Republicans to halt money and weapons going to Ukraine they may well need themselves soon. I woukd not put it passed Putin, that he had something to do with the timing of this HAMAS attack on Israel. There are signs that Wagner (a portion of their warriors did return to Africa - Putin has asset interests there) trained HAMAS fighter. Looking at the atrocities coming to light - their are similarities.

[@nicklindberg90]

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🫡

[@saimbhat6243]

LOL

[@sujac664]

@@saimbhat6243 HeroyamSlava🇺🇦🫡

[@davidclark5111]

Excellent content today. I live in Toronto Canada. I have followed your podcast on youtube since the second week of your broadcast. In Canada we have a media company CBC which is primarily funded by government budgets. The news bias reflects this funding dependency. Today at the end of the podcast it was mentioned that the Telegraph could be possibly sold in the future. A possible purchaser might be a player from an undemocratic country that is an ally with Russia. Please express to the owners of the Telegraph that such a sale would not be in the interest of free speech and democratic freedoms. I would expect that if such a sale went through that the new owners first action would be the termination of the podcast Ukraine the latest. That would be an absolute crime against journalism and Ukraine. These are very dark times.😢

[@emigrator08]

I'm losing faith in the US day after day...a country I served and whilst doing so, I trained to protect Russian aggression in Ukraine. I'm sad and disappointed at the response of the West, almost like they want Russia to prevail.

[@garymelnyk7910]

The constant ads are driving me mad.

[@user-zp8sp4hj3d]

12k views….almost off the air

[@geoffreychadwick8230]

I would ask all western tourists to boycott the UAE Dubai after they greeted the murderer Putin.

[@spacetraveller9399]

Free Julian Assange!

[@sammenter1]

Russian bot above

[@coolbreezy7092]

Kind of sounds like her husband is being detained near Julian assange speaking of good old Europe and Britain democracy!!!

[@todd1770]

I was going to say that 💯

[@ianhamilton7317]

Assange is a Kremlin asset. Bought and paid for.

[@stephenhill545]

I'm sure Assange is treated better, and wasn't poisoned twice, and ghete aren't 750 of hom in penal colonies with a 25 year prison sentence.

[@sujac664]

🤦🏻

[@grisall]

Nikki Haley winning the GOP nomination would make my day. She's the only one running so far from either party who is truly presidential material.

[@aac74]

She is paid 12 million dollars a year to push war.

[@user-kh7xc5wr1m]

Democrats need to compromise and relent, agreeing to compromise and approve funds for the US border's migrant crisis (as well as Israel). Building a wall / fence is perhaps the one thing I agreed with Trump on. Let's get it done and get Ukraine much-needed aid!

[@frankshailes3205]

Um, your Trump promised Mexico would pay for the wall.

[@dimas3829]

@@frankshailes3205 Not Trump's fault that Blinden decided that he should finish the wall on American taxes instead of pushing Trump's deal with Mexico.

[@Kath-nd6pj]

Trump Never had a deal with Mexico. He was (and still is) nothing but a wind bag. Makes a lot of campaign noise to mock his followers and win votes only. No sense there. Why should Mexico build a wall other than one of their own - a fence with wire tops. . Trump want anything else, then he needs to come up with the money and on US soil. The wildlife and ecosystem would suffer with a solid wall.

[@robertsteele474]

@@dimas3829 There was no deal with Mexico.

[@yudhihartadi6636]

Russia has right to defend itself 🇷🇺

[@wunderlol]

Nice to have "rights" isn't it?

[@yudhihartadi6636]

@@wunderlol sure my man

[@Anthonythumb]

The only threat to Russia is Vladimir Putin

[@ginniemess]

It should defend itself by staying inside it's own borders, not constantly attacking and occupying smaller and weaker countries

[@yudhihartadi6636]

@@ginniemess donbass region was promised to russian 3000 years ago. It means that russia is defending in its own territory now

[@todd1770]

I think itsTime for divorce and re marriage for this lady.

[@anthonyhulse1248]

Weird comment

[@phillipneale5256]

Sad sap!

[@sujac664]

why? she clearly loves and supports her husband.

[@rufuscollis303]

...more complete 🍒

[@bluffhill]

glory to Ukraine

[@andreysamarin4170]

Yankee go home!

[@stephenhill545]

They don't come to Russia. Its rubbish there.

[@sujac664]

...but she's Russian, being interviewed by a Brit..... who's the Yankee that has to go home/.... and why?

[@todd1770]

Only 76 comments 😅😅😅deleting comments much 😅😅😅😅

[@ian111]

Has the Telegraph realised that Ukraine has lost yet?

[@ginniemess]

Has a troll realised that it will not get paid?

[@phillipneale5256]

I don't think so! Russia is run by Hitlers apprentice. Slava Ukraine!!

[@Straighten_edge]

They knew that months ago but the point of media is to tell the prolls what to think not what's happened. Just listen to that woman they interview describe being imprisoned with a tv as a form of torture. If Vlad was half as bad as this interview implies they would both be dead.

[@AmsterdamSpy]

Slava Rossiya

[@sujac664]

who's "rossiya"?

[@garypCronshaw]

Is this a joke?

[@bm-kb8kh]

Zelegraph sheep propaganda. Pay baby, pay!

[@anthonyhulse1248]

Try harder Tovarich

[@bm-kb8kh]

​@@anthonyhulse1248Slava KOKAIINE begginski.

[@user-rq5dw6zf1o]

I really thought an English speaking Russian would be more educated in policies and geopolitical and economic political affairs and culture and understands different variations of democracy or even the definition of free speech according to our laws. Sadly she’s just so hopeful and filled with glee in the American dream. Just get an American citizenship and call it a day young lady

[@daydays12]

This post is incoherent grammatically. Pitiful content too.

[@ginniemess]

Wow, such ignorance 😅

[@wye_Homba]

Stop commenting.

[@AnnaK-bf2wq]

Free Gonzallo Lira! Free Julian Assange! Free Pablo Gonzales! Imprison Biden, Zelensky, Victoria Nouland!

[@tunnakeech1702]

mince..hail hail ...scotland

[@DannyVega-DanielHall4Freedom]

BS

[@DominicFlynn]

Pretty unprofessional journalism by The Telegraph. All the guests' wild conspiracy theories are just accepted unchallenged

[@todd1770]

​@robertcocco4930like Julian Assange in the West. Your clueless rob 😅😅😅😅

[@sujac664]

@@todd1770 I'd say Rob is far from clueless... he was being ironic, "all journalism is fair and truthful" (in russland) ,means 'no journalism is fair or truthful in russland'..... nothing to do with Julian Assange and his ties to thekremlin, he's served his purpose for the moment, but they'll call him back when it suits them, give him a hero of motherland award, for public display, and then forget about him, or offer him a window he can't resist.

[@devilishdeed]

Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.

[@SH976]

😆😆loving the propaganda😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@todd1770]

Good times being a Russian bot .Putin for ever Ukraine never..

[@hummerstattoo9769]

All lies

[@sujac664]

really?😳 which part?