Albert Hughes: 2Pac was Too Big of a Movie Star to Take Small Role in Menace II Society (Part 8)

[@PeterStone-hy6ir]

The opening scene sets the tone. It’s arguably the most important scene in the movie.

[@AyoooKai]

Yh arguably

[@jayday1503]

🎯🎯🎯🎯 What you say about my mama? Classic!

[@bennisford1712]

🤔🤔🤔

[@PeterStone-hy6ir]

Bill Duke arguably has the most memorable scene in the movie

[@stephencox8723]

arguably? arguably? you know you done fucked up, you know you done fucked up.

[@chasemoney3485]

What u say about my mama by O DOGG was but I get yo point 😆

[@jwhite7104]

Nah odog intro was definitely the highlight

[@TidyRC]

Actually I think the most memorable line in the film is when his granddad asks him “cain, Dyou care if u live or die?”

[@godsson491]

Now you know you done effed up don't you? lol

[@wexmoney8017]

Menace’s authenticity is what blew the other films away. Caine was a criminal and a killer yet somehow the audience sees him as a good guy and empathizes with him as a human. That comes from the film’s script, the confident vision of the directing, and the brilliant performances by the cast. It is a classic.

[@C3K1J8]

I wouldn’t say so much a killer, he was against killin the Korean lady, had to be convinced to get revenge for Harold and had morals and instead of offing ole girl cousin, he stomped him out

[@vincentharris2259]

​@@C3K1J8I Agree Caine Wasnt A Killer He Only Shot One Of The Jackers O-Dog And A-Wax Were Real Killers.

[@JayWerx]

Caine seemed like good kid cause he was compared to O Dog

[@C3K1J8]

@@JayWerx yeah more of less of the 2 evils, he had a good heart but a product of his environment

[@yamato126]

​@@C3K1J8sociopath and psychopath

[@enzigenes]

That scene was DEFINITELY a response to what happened to Latasha. Albert should've never sugar-coated it.

[@rgtowns]

It wasn't and he was honest

[@agmcroom2374]

Doubt he feels that way to punish Asians for actions of one person. Why would he thinks different then that.

[@UnderwaterShadow]

No it wasn’t

[@kidzeus2433]

Menace II Society is one of those films that you can watch over and over and never get tired of it... Truly iconic movie.

[@caviyavi]

Menace had one of the most shocking opening and ending to a film i ever saw.

[@godsson491]

I was in 7th grade when this movie dropped......I remember walking through an apartment complex in Oakland, and every door I walked across was watching that movie.

[@someguyjohn6599]

It’s interesting that the opening scene wasn’t initially in the script, because it ends up playing a pretty important role for the rest of the movie.

[@dawb86]

The surveillance tape is kind of what they call a MacGuffin, a literary device in a script where the object is necessary to the plot and motivation of key characters but is ultimately insignificant/irrelevant in itself. Kind of like the suitcase in 'Pulp Fiction.'

[@telldetruth9259]

It lowkey drives the script & rest of the movie

[@dawb86]

@@telldetruth9259 True. Like I was saying with Pulp Fiction, the suitcase is the cause for different motivations throughout the plot but isn't actually what the film itself is about. LOL, when you think about it the character Doug from 'The Hangover' is a human MacGuffin... 😂

[@jrhupcej]

I feel sorry for your mother, craziest line in the movie! That line single handedly set the whole movie off. Without that line it would have been just another beginning to another movie.

[@saintlouis1087]

You feel sorry for who??

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

Juice was a perfect movie for 2pac. Sometimes you have to just let things happen because they’ll work out better.

[@lilmovieperp3599]

This guy is hot right now cause he directed the first episode of that John Wick show that takes place in the 70’s. Dude’s projects drips with style

[@ZYaKnoe249]

Albert did great on the Continental/John Wick spin off. Props to him.

[@spiderpimp33]

Damn sure did! Me and my wife watched it. 🔥🔥🔥 I also love the fact that even though it’s based on the 70’s, it is not ‘white-washed’.

[@WinslowWins]

“Little Latasha sho’ grown tell the lady at the liquor store that shes forgiven, so come home” 😰

[@NoNo-ng9sl]

I remember the DVD commentary where they said they shared what Scorsese did in Goodfellas. The opening scene was raw and in your face. Its funny he mentions Juice because their opening scene set the tone for each of the guys. Its a peek into what they are. All of the films mentioned are genius pieces of art in their own way while using the same method.

[@emmanuelrivers8406]

Vlad over there having a whole anxiety attack tryna avoid askin him about fleeing the scene when pac & nem was havin a party on his bro🤣

[@donkeypunchentertainment5485]

😮 He just compared a Darkskin women to Gorilas in the Mist...Wtf

[@russelridley8129]

He a punk this is the same guy that ran away from his brother getting jump

[@michaelbetts8379]

I thought 🤔 that was what I heard

[@Pacslifetv]

Albert seems to be more genuine than he’s brother

[@3rdGenerationCancer]

What???

[@Wesssyde_LB-78]

Still a SNAKE!!! 👎🏽👎🏽

[@pipedown1246]

Yeah, it wouldn't have been the same if they put cube in it in any type of role salute to them for not wanting to go the safe route with a big name 💯

[@Kato83849]

They directed Menace II Society at 18?!!! Wow..

[@chrisrobvideos]

BILL DUKE!! Realest black man to ever grace Hollywood

[@Styles.rp25]

Vlad, great fucking question regarding the Latasha Harlings! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@tnthnic]

Harlins

[@mranderson8725]

Didn’t realize him and his brother directed two episodes for the John wick series

[@Alexz_Archivz]

Man! Albert seems to be so out of sync of the hood calling Tyrin 'Tyrone' and "The different World show", not knowing how Jada got the role of 'Ronnie'?!? The Gorillas in the Mist look, WTF?!?!?!? Give us back Allen!!!! He seems to be aware of his surroundings!

[@PeterStone-hy6ir]

Much love to Ren but I don’t think Ren has that charisma that Eiht had.

[@dawb86]

Aye homie, u need some help? **pop pop pop**

[@vincentharris2259]

@PeterStone-hy6ir. Ren Could Of Done The Role With A Little Acting Coaching

[@Dan-eq6po]

MC eiht has become boring since he got older

[@ducklife420]

@@Dan-eq6po somehow his accent got more "country" as he got older. he sounds like he bought some acres in the deep south and sits around drinking forties and farming

[@vincentharris2259]

@@Dan-eq6po Because He's A Grown Ass Man He Ain't Staying Wild Like He Was When He Was Twenty.

[@Alexz_Archivz]

Prior to the Korean store scene, this movie was "WTF" at the initial scene of Sam Jackson shooting the guy antagonizing him during the card game!!!

[@ToneStevens]

“Aye homie you need some help?”

[@busterhikney6936]

No small roles, Only small actors.

[@telldetruth9259]

I wonder how much the movie changes if Eazy is O-Dog.. he would kinda have to be the OG inside of the young dude right

[@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187]

They should've gotten Eazy-E a cameo in the movie 🎥

[@freddyfree9195]

Eazy was too old to play O Dog

[@bishop8988]

Tupac would've delivered the roll that they gave him better then the other guy that got it for sure.💯💯💯

[@kingsavage5832]

Honestly, it would be hard to put someone like Pac anywhere in that film because you can see him play roles of not only Shareef.. But Kaine & O-Dog as well. But they should've shed more light on Shareef's character tho because he did play a significant part on the movie as much as O-Dog did.

[@datsreal7953]

At this point you could say yes about the opening scene Al....😊

[@Keepthinking568]

He’s the chill brother of the two

[@SmartDave60]

“They smoked your goddamn cousin right in front of you!” That’s another line I remember well.

[@oo7sb]

Hughes... you mark. You and your brother used Tupac to get funding for the movie!!! Keep it a dollar. You didn't want him in it, you knew he was the only way the studio would sign off. Stop the Cap!

[@Wesssyde_LB-78]

🫡🫡🫡

[@KingKing-et1qv]

Krazy they thought about this at 15 & made it happen a couple yrs later ♟️🦍

[@hardstyleeric]

Bill duke was awesome in predator!

[@julesBoston1]

We are sll going to re play this scene now.

[@jusdef07]

They were looking for a "Dark Skin, Gorillas in the mist type..." What type is that ?!?! Sounds very offensive. Imagine if a Caucasian director said that. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@leroypope6739]

Albert seems to be more sincere than Allen.

[@cp1048]

Shoulda took it 2 da wax boy, coulda done it much betta ....Mc eiht was one da best characters in dat mf CLASSIC 🔥🔥🔥

[@Lakey79373]

Brilliant film 🎥

[@madmoney2594]

So we agree 2Pac was right to question his role as he was too big of superstar at the time ?

[@vladtv]

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[@jamesburton9708]

I'm gonna say what everyone (except haters) is thinking - ain't nobody tryna hear SHT the Hughes Brothers got to say about Tupac

[@dawb86]

It's better to hear all perspectives about him, the detractors unintentionally keep the legacy alive just as much those who loved/revered him. It ultimately just makes Pac's name ring even greater which pisses them off more lol...

[@telldetruth9259]

@@dawb86fax

[@jamesburton9708]

​@@dawb86I can get with that

[@34csimms]

"It's also a response" So it was definitely a response Yeah I listen to the wordz and how u use them....🤨

[@Eye2Eye24]

I remember first time I saw menace to society it first came out I ordered it on the on demand stuff. And i watched Jason goes to hell to.

[@Wesssyde_LB-78]

Regardless the Hughes brothers still did Pac Dirty! SMH

[@ddaniels295]

He wasnt too big that would’ve been a 3rd role

[@مشعل-غ2ع]

I.liked him he is better than his funky brother

[@MrCjones24]

😂😂

[@jonathanjelks5743]

PAC as Sharif would have been dynamic. He would have taken that character to another level as his truest sentiments, political upbringing & life philosophy was more in line with that character as opposed to an O Dog. He would have made the loss of Sharif feel even more detrimental. But the guy who played Sharif did a good job.

[@definitelyduse]

What tf u say about my mama…. Most iconic line

[@dannydavis5550]

COME ON NOW VLADIMIR ASK HIM WHY HE RAN 🏃‍♀️ WHEN HIS BROTHER WAS GETTING JUMPED GET THEM VIEWS

[@ducklife420]

I don't know how 2pac was too big of a movie star if Sam Jackson who is one of the biggest actors in the world was in the film

[@darnell9806]

Sam Jackson wasn’t one of the biggest stars in the world in 1993, he was still a working actor. 1994 Pulp Fiction was his breakout role.

[@JamwsBonds]

I think Bill Duke saying you know you fucked up right plays n every person mind when they in jail

[@LeeHunt-mu9nb]

Interesting all that tension between Koreans and Blacks. Yet Koreans made plenty of money off of Black people.

[@dagangsta0fluv]

... I'm glad MC Ren didn't get the part. I can only imagine how horrible His acting would have been.

[@goofballlarry2031]

Facts

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

That movie didn’t need 2pac.

[@telldetruth9259]

And vice versa .

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

@@telldetruth9259 That must’ve hurt your feelings.

[@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187]

​@@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIHit's the truth!

[@harveymcelroy9332]

Bullcrap Pac wasn't that big yet the Hughes Brothers are a trip

[@FEWGEE1]

Tupac should have played Caine

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

Nah.

[@telldetruth9259]

He would’ve got type casted

[@pCOCKPRO11]

​@@telldetruth9259he's too big to get type cast. Only small actors get type cast.

[@ducklife420]

O-Dog

[@Alexz_Archivz]

4:44 BILL DUKE is still alive ppl!!

[@Frenchy.]

Tupac got Jada involved in that movie, please do not erase history people

[@matthewbush2371]

Until the Hughes brothers fired my man pac for no reason

[@Fowler0526]

Albert Hughes seems MUCH BETTER than his whack brother

[@Milvus_In_Excelsis]

Wrong. Pac was to big of a bully with to big of an ego to take the role.

[@joeb7349]

did he say MC REN, shouldn't he have said MC EIHT ?

[@joeb7349]

GOTCHA, didn't know mc ren was supposed to be Awax, aight bett

[@Superstardark]

Yet he got killed minding somebody else's business let alone niggas off the street nobody knew

[@youngsemcitychris2614]

Tired of these black handed compliments… these mf don’t like PAC .. it’s obvious. Stop it

[@musiqsoul5354]

I like this brother better.

[@JamwsBonds]

2 pac wouldn't have fit as O Dog he already had Bishop

[@festo512]

He was too old to play o dog

[@Yayasoebk]

Right but one of the best movies ever to me it’s better then all the movies Pac played 😂😂

[@stephencox8723]

I’m not mad at that, menace is a classic.

[@telldetruth9259]

Juice is better and has better acting from Pac & Omar

[@stephencox8723]

@@telldetruth9259 I definitely agree with you, but both are classics. a case can be made for both for sure.

[@PeterStone-hy6ir]

Poetic Justice & Juice are just as important and on par.. stop it

[@acts562]

Hurry up n buyyyy

[@TonyMontana-mv9ez]

1st

[@ivanrequenes5949]

3rd

[@Dan-eq6po]

Tupac was a huge star in North America but only came a big star after his death.When I was a kid I never heard of him because there was no internet in them days.

[@druskeymercadel8955]

2nd

[@JayWerx]

Pac was too arrogant to take the role of Sharif. He could have made that role bigger with his personality

[@ZYaKnoe249]

Arrogant? The role was the role. He simply wanted more background given. Which BOTH Allen and Albert have agreed with…

[@PeterStone-hy6ir]

?? He was going to do the role. They fired him because of disagreements

[@theeross9060]

It's crazy because Sherif is close to who Pac was raised as in real life😅😂

[@dawb86]

@@theeross9060 He grew up in multiple hoods with a former Panther mother. The Pac we got WAS who he was raised as in real life lol...

[@theeross9060]

@@dawb86 That's what I said ..Sharifs character was close to the real life version of the first Pac .. Brenda's gotta baby Pac

[@Jcrash71]

These myths about tupacs fame are hilarious

[@telldetruth9259]

What myth? He literally came off a staring role and was going into another one. Everybody in Menace was relatively unknown

[@apprentessjgooden2263]

​@@telldetruth9259MC Eiht, Too Short and MC Pooh were the most known people in the movie at that time, along Sam L Jackson, AJ John's, Bill Duke, Charles Duttin and of course, Jada Pinkett.

[@ZYaKnoe249]

@@apprentessjgooden2263none of them were the main

[@flyguy7825]

No, I can't say movie star. He was too big of an music artist. I mean Tupac at his height was just as big as a Michael Jackson, a Madonna, or any other famous musical artist that you can think of in my humble opinion.

[@ZYaKnoe249]

He wasn’t as big as Micheal lmao c’mon now.

[@flyguy7825]

@@ZYaKnoe249 Yes he was!! Lol at his peak!!

[@CookFooTV]

​@@flyguy7825Exactly. People talk about Pac more than Michael Jackson to this day!

[@sparrowprince3432]

@@flyguy7825 NO HE WAS NOT. People used to faint at Michael Jackson concerts and he single handedly saved MTV in the 80s. 2pac was not on that level.

[@flyguy7825]

@@sparrowprince3432 I don't care what people used to do in concerts. That's not what I'm saying. Reading is comprehension

[@BLACKDAMIAN]

Gorillas in da mist type?