Vocal Coach REACTS - FLOOR JANSEN & RLSQ "Energize me" (live 2009)

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[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

Now, THIS was bloody unexpected! This video is a goldmine for vocal coaches, but nobody ever reacts to it. What a nice surprise! Yes, the microphone is right there, on the floor in front of Floor.😊

[@andybarber8898]

Not enough reactions to this amazing performance. Thank you Ken!!!

[@jeffk1482]

I concur! This is when Floor really started to show exactly what a Floor Jansen is.

[@randyboyles]

I love the way she steps back at the end to acknowledge the string players.

[@BrendonChase_2015]

Same. She never forgets to acknowledge/thank the other musicians. Ditto with her guest appearance at Epica's Retrospective concert, where she did "Stabat Mater" with Simone Simons. She gracefully thanked the conductor/orchestra. Floor has always been a true teamplayer.

[@schout33]

Floor is definitely not an opera singer turned into metal singer, just the opposite. After graduating from the Rock Academy in 2003, she studied 2 year at the conservatory. 1 year opera and 1 year music theatre while singing with her first band After Forever which she joined at the age of 16 in 1997. Floor considers herself as a musical nerd and an eternal student of music in general.

[@BrendonChase_2015]

Ken & Co. nerding out over Floor's embouchure. Very enjoyable start of the weekend. And yes, it was all acoustic. No effects, amplification or mic needed (but for the one to record the performance). Great stuff. EDIT: Same period, same combo and some more material to use for education, Ken. This time the mic is a bit easier to spot and it survived the wonderful stress-test Floor unleashed here: "Floor Jansen & RLSQ - Monolith Of Doubt & My Pledge Of Allegiance #1 (P60 Amstelveen 27.12.2009) 1/9" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/faLcYnuMZ7eCrrs /EDIT In a setting that was quite similar, I've seen her throw away the mic they'd put before her (or at least swinging it aside). Floor's vocal power and dynamics are best served raw. Many mics didn't survive the "in vivo" Floor test. Cheers from Amsterdam!

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

This must be the first reaction to this video ever. The "setting that was quite similar" - is it "Floor Jansen zingt Ave Maria"? Imagine a classical album with her. Recorded in a big room with its natural reverb, without any artificial effects, without the sterile modern production and without compression, so we could hear her _real_ voice on a recording for once. Dreams...

[@BrendonChase_2015]

@@noneofyerbeeswax8194 WT..? YT notification came through for once!!! Yes, it was Floor doing Ave Maria in 2011 when she was still recovering from her burn-out. Her only gig in those dark & piano black days. Your comment helped me retrace the video featuring Floor clearly smashing the mic to pieces, like I said 😇 Horrible recording, but in the context of it all oh so touching. Cheers from da Modderland!

[@BrendonChase_2015]

@@noneofyerbeeswax8194 That imaginary album would be the one I'd take with me to the proverbial deserted island. Dunno if Ken c.s. mentioned it (I believe Ken may have hinted at this) and I'd have to rewatch, but with all of the emphasis laid on the benefits of classical training here (vowel formation etc), I'd really like to point out that many a classically schooled vocalist would utterly fail, should they've tried their hand at reproducing Floor's performance here. Classical training has benefits but it can also act as a vocal prison. Tales are still being told of songsters trying to break out & getting lost. Never to be found again.. So ALL HAIL Floortje, the girl nxt door who just happens to be a once in many lifetimes vocal giant 😎

[@REN4eva]

Fun reaction! She is/always was amazing

[@kezca]

Great reaction and analysis of this performance Thankyou for sharing.

[@marcklinker9229]

Ken take e look at Floor's Solo show in Amsterdam. There she performed also this song.

[@marcelofarah8657]

there are two microphones one on the floor and another above her. Check the upper part of the frame around 2:00

[@Drinckx2]

Glad you reacted to this, too few vocal specialists do. I think it's rather delightful, demonstrating her wonderful abilities in a setting you don't often see. And she seems to be performing to a group bussed in from the local retirement home who are, perhaps, not au fait with the After Forever catalogue.

Great reaction again. I think this was from a TV show and performed live. TV show use multiple cameras and a controller toom to switch between them. Floor is always AMAZING and drags you in to the song no matter what style she sings.

[@jasonmarshall7572]

Great reaction it's been good having your student on-board Thank you

[@hollandduck79]

Hello from the Netherlands. 👍👍 if you really want to listen to and enjoy Floor's voice you MUST listen to Floor acoustic. By the way, have you seen the "Floor phone book" video yet? Singing LIVE and not rehearsed from the phone book in a morning show Live on the Dutch national radio . thanks for the video. Sincerely Hollandduck

[@HCH944]

Story behind is that it was a running gag amongst fans of the GODDESS that SHE could even sing a phonebook at it would sound beautifull...... Somehow that station got knowledge of that and surprised her with their sudden request....... Of course SHE fullfilled all expectations ..... Since then the fans are waiting for an album: "Grandma`s Recepies"........🤣

[@BrendonChase_2015]

@@HCH944 Haha yup, the album would be an instant buy for me. These were my suggestions at the time: Now begins the long wait for a "Best of.." collection of Floor-sung txt: #1 Phone book blues (check) #2 Assemble Me! (Ikea manual) #3 Fill my taco (sung recipe) #4 Traffic Jam (sung route planner) #5 You can do it (sung guide for self-help) #6 Squat with me (sing-along fitness) #7 Stay safe (sung directions on fire extinguisher) #8 Ignite (sung precautions on fireworks) #9 Elevate me (sung elevator floor indication) #10 Lest we forget (sung list of musicians sacrificed by the music industry) L!nk tt phonebook video: "Floor Jansen singing the phone book (Live NPO Radio2)" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX24o2R6gdx4h8k Cheers from Amsterdam! 🤘

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

@@BrendonChase_2015 🤣👍 Second all, especially the IKEA manual (in Swedish, of course). Love the double meaning behind some of these. Something only trve kvltists will understand...

[@BrendonChase_2015]

@@noneofyerbeeswax8194 Trve kvlt endures! 🤘

[@HCH944]

@@BrendonChase_2015 stays forever in the list....downloaded......thanx......

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

I don't think that the performance we're seeing here has a lot to do with classical training. While definitely helpful, it can also be restricting. Sopranos of old were taught to belt and mix, but this techniques seem to be largely ignored today, and I believe that many an opera singer would fail had they attempted something like this. Very rarely do we see this level of precision, projection and belting power from a soprano these days. What matters most when it comes to singing is the natural talent. Floor's talent is already at a level where technique and training become optional, and she has put some serious effort into developing it. The result is thereafter: this is as close to perfection as humanly possible...

[@joslauwers7960]

Last weekend of August we have opening of the cultural sector in Amsterdam where we can see what is coming next year. It has be done for 45 years now in Amsterdam and next year and onwards it will be in another Dutch city. All musea, concert-halls and podia etc. will present themselves with the reportoire for next year (september till june)

[@humphreyterveer1338]

Floor is a master vocalist/artist a real story teller, great reactionguys!

[@joslauwers7960]

Loved your reaction Ken and Co.

[@ronaldderooij1774]

If I had to classify Floor into one classification, it is musical theatre. She studied it for a longer time than opera or rock, even. That is also where her stage presence originates (my opinion, you don't have to agree). You call it musical psychology and I agree. Getting the audience in a state where you want them, with little physical effort (apart from singing) is Floor her strongest point.

[@strabel803]

Yes ,i would agree ,but musical theatre is in general not as raw/gritty as Floor does,so Floor just made her own genre "gritty musical theatre"😅 Just making fun,but the studies she did just enhanced the enormous talent she already had,in my opinion. Floor started of with "heavy" bands and i considder that also as a kind of study and in a way it was her luck,otherwise you got probebly a second Tarja,who started the other way around with opera and singing in a metal band. I don't think there would be a singer like Floor is ,if she started with conservatory classical/opera singing,there probably would be more restrictions to her singing.😉🤘

[@while_journal]

Before she joined Nightwish, this was the first video that KZbin showed when you searched for her name. I remember broadcasting this video back in 2010 in the TV of my parents house and my mom was mesmerized hahaha

[@ralfmeyer9086]

Now you know, why Tuomas pick Floor . Ps, dont forget friends, she can go in very deep growls. 🤘🤗

[@Thorgrim247]

Wonderful to have a chance to meet your student. Your in great hands Joe. Ken is a master at his craft.

[@reactionsaccount3955]

Finally a vocal coach that reacts to this rarely reacted to wonderful performance. Other fantastic performance to react to Floor at peak performance. After Forever (Floor's 1st band) - Dreamflight Live ProgPower USA VIII (2007) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWSQkHlvpderaqs Floor Jansen - Face Your Demons (Live) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqTKYoaMhsSErLM

[@johnlindquist1784]

If you look in the longer shots, you also see a microphone suspended from the ceiling.

[@fearisachoiceyouembrace]

Some more live recordings showing her amazing skills: - young Floor with her band After Forever singing Dreamflight 2007 live at Progpower -The Poet and the Pendulum 2015 at Wembley with Nightwish -Beste Zangers show 2019: Vilja Song, Shallow, Euphoria and surely Phantom of the Opera - Alone cover and Adagio cover on her KZbin channel 2021 - Nightwish acustic live (Plant rock 2020!) : Hows the heart

[@billmorrison8292]

Another Floor rarely seen video. Singing Ave Maria in a small room in 2011. I love the way she just pushed the mic away because she didn't need it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5KQaXl3r8p8p5o

[@anniex8712]

You need to watch her perfomance Disdain

[@papaverweg]

Born in 1981 Floor started her career in 1997 at the age of 16 she as a background singer from the Dutch metal band ‘After Forever’, but real soon she took over the lead until early 2009 and the band fell apart. Parallel she studied at the Dutch Rock Academy in Tilburg starting in 1999 where she graduated in 2003 and spent two years on classical training with the National Conservatory. She studied Musical Theatre and one year Opera. She plays guitar, piano and flute and has completed 12 years of music studies. In addition to her activities at After Forever, she gave singing lessons. In the months between the break-up of AF and the formation of her new band ReVamp (noteworthy was tat on the 65th anniversary of the Dutch liberation from World War II on May 5, 2010). she did sidesteps with, among others, the Red Limo String Quartet. Other AF songs acoustic w/ RLSQ: “Cry With a Smile” kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKXYiZ1ja7KWn7M, and “Dreamflight” kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKqZhIyQotyXbdE.

[@Zhgarr]

You were so happy when you found the microphone, haha. Nice meeting you Joe!

[@MycontentisgoldJerryGold]

First time seeing this. Floor is so beautiful here.

[@Luana6350]

Great voice - thanks for this entertaining reaction video❣

[@francescogallina2559]

This is the unplugged version.

[@Bonovin]

Thank you!! Greetings from nwAse Sweden

[@corneliusantonius3108]

Red Limo String Quartet. The little church? (I see an organ haning) they are performing in is suitable for this.

[@xxhermitxx5315]

You should check out Floors version of O mio babbino caro.

[@Kelsea-2002]

Even without seeing Floor, you can clearly hear her smile.

[@shereengonzalez1911]

I'm not sure if you've seen the video of her singing with the Metropole Orchestra for the Sound of the Wind (from Final Fantasy). kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqPEhYSjo9Z8qZY

[@erickvermeulen9734]

Maybe your guest should have pushed the on/off button on the microphone? The video is from a program on Dutch national television dedicated to the start of the new cultural season in the autumn. The ideal moment for such a cross-over performance.

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

Smart.👍🤣🙃 The guest is most likely using a dynamic mic which has much lower sensitivity and output signal than Ken's condenser mic. That's my SWAG as an electronics engineer.

[@erickvermeulen9734]

@@noneofyerbeeswax8194 Ah thanks, probably you are right.

[@Roylevis]

I expect a new Dio of your student!

[@HughHarding46]

What is absolutely amazing about this is the shape of the room. The wall behind the RLSQ has several windows and the room is a rectangle, has lights hanging from the ceiling and what looks like pipe organ pipes in the wall so acoustics should not be good in this place.

[@merqury5]

When u use deveral cameras u usually still use 1 audio source.....

[@zbygniewprlwytzkofsky6614]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r52qc36po8l7bqs The moment you returned to Nightwish 2 month ago and made that remark I knew we were going to see more of Floor... And I'm trying to figure out who of the classical trained coaches has better ears then Ken Lavigne? Any way, they all lose their interest after picking the low hanging fruit and you seem to stay with out goddess. Hope you will go on as she is an amazing creature and there is still a lot of material to react to.🤘

[@supriyadiadi8148]

Next reaction VOB "God allow me please to play music"VOB BAND TRIO HIJAB from 🇮🇩 VOB LIVE at WACKEN OPEN AIR (GERMAIN)2022👍 VOB AMAZING fantastic 👍🤟

[@wtglb]

Good stuff! Was your colleague's mic off?

[@supriyadiadi8148]

Next reaction VOB "ENTER SANDMAN "Metalica cover VOB BAND ROCK TRIO HIJAB 🇮🇩 VOB consert LIVE AT (FRANCE)TRANS MUSICALES DE RENNES 2021👍 VOB AMAZING super talented 🤟

[@pekkakarppinen1608]

Haha, no mic and all the throat's wide.😅👍

[@christiangramg_hifi]

i believe this was an european tv one time performance, and she has no mic besides the room mics i think....i really don't know

[@johnveerkamp1501]

SHE DON'T NEED AN MICROPHONE !!!!

[@christinaalgate4899]

She calls herself a vocal technique nerd. She does have some Masterclasses on her KZbin Channel. Hi Ken im from Alberta

[@wildhoney126]

How about checking out some more interesting sympho metal vocalists? We are talking about three vocalists at once, who met in one song. Each has its own unique timbre and tone of voice. and together they sound great. I think as a vocal teacher it would be interesting. By the way, Simone Simons from Epica and Charlotte Wessels are also Dutch, like Floor Jansen and all together they are good old friends not only on stage, but also in life. Epica - Sirens of blood and water (feat Charlotte Wessels and Myrkur) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaeqgmCnbsyrbJo

[@jzundert]

i,m dutch but i don,t like epica after nightwish is within temptation the second best my humble opinion

[@wildhoney126]

@@jzundert it's just that you like pop metal, that's fine, everyone has their own tastes 😉

[@jzundert]

@@wildhoney126 i say only i don,t like epica and i like symphonic metal--country--rock and roll--- jazz--dutch folkmusic--classic music--irish music---i love so much kind of music but not epica it,s my oinion only mine do respect that

[@wildhoney126]

@@jzundert I actually don't care, it was an offer for the author of the channel, not for you 😁

[@jzundert]

@@wildhoney126 thank you for this very nice answer en verder kun je de pot op

[@Kstm72]

Please do a reaction vid to a metal band called Chaoseum - My Wonderland.

[@ewaa37911]

I listened to it, cool song, thank you!

[@Kstm72]

@@ewaa37911 Your welcome

[@ToTheWolves]

Not enough pausing for me.

[@joicemendonca8069]

Brazilian Musics Gal Costa - Eu sei que vou te amar Cris Delanno - Enconto marcado Beth Carvalho - Andança Beth Carvalho - A vida é moinho /As rosas não falam João Bosco - Quando o amor acontece Zelia Duncan - Luiza Claudia Leite - Falando sério Diogo Nogueira - Espelho Zizi Possi e Ana Carolina - Carvão/ Quem é você/ parte do DVD - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKbSppyefL5lbbs Toque de Arte - Aquarela do Brasil, Hino Nacional e Brasileirinho Djavan - Outono. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn_caKiLoZ2ams0

[@johnveerkamp1501]

I FIND IT NORMAL THAT YOU LIKE WHAT YOUR DOING.

[@carloselver7114]

Hello Ken! I want to recommend two of the best voices in Spain, who are not part of your reactions, and they will surely surprise you: Diana Navarro, singing LIVE 'Cuplerías' kzbin.info/www/bejne/m57EeXhnq7pnms0 Monica Naranjo, singing LIVE 'Ahora ahora' kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCYaoCuhNJ3Zqs Enjoy it!!

[@martynschickerling6176]

I only wish your guest would speak louder.... whispering detract from the reaction... disappointing

[@silverblack5475]

Floor only trained classically for 1 year ....she actually didnt like it . kzbin.info/www/bejne/faLcYnuMZ7eCrrs Try this with Floor

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

Her facial expressions are priceless. She's so happy singing these songs, even without a band. I always find it strange when people say she "doesn't" like classical singing. What she's using here, is the most classical technique imaginable: bel canto. I can imagine that she doesn't like the _modern_ way of "classical" singing though, which is very strict and restrictive. Modern sopranos are not taught to utilize their voice to its full potential, they're taught to stick to one, most efficient, technique, drill it to perfection and ignore everything else. Many an opera singer would fail had they attempted something like what she's doing here.

[@BrendonChase_2015]

Would be interesting to know what it was exactly that Floor didn't like. I know she's commented on it over the years in ways that can be interpreted in several ways. Also the moment she said so could be relevant. We all know for instance that Tuomas wasn't keen on repeating the Tarja vibe all too often, to put it mildly. Thank goodness for that! In such a context, Floor as the newbie singer would do well to distance herself a bit from her classical training. Keep in mind tho, that the one visiting teacher who really inspired her at the Rock Academy where she couldn't find was she was looking for, caused her to pursue additional years of training in musical theatre and opera. One thing stands out to me if you'd take the "didn't like" position at face value and that is Floor's behaviour rather than her words. In ReVamp, which was her baby so to speak, she inserted the "classical" thingy (which she supposedly didn't like) rather frequently. She even did so in a very enjoyable cover of Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance". Perhaps you've seen it, great fun! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3i5inWjoLGlfaM Cheers!

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

@@BrendonChase_2015 What a great clip! The only trve way of singing pop songs: have fun and make fun of them. The only thing I've heard (or read?) Floor say is that female opera singers sound unnatural and she doesn't quite like it. But of course, people took it as "she doesn't like opera". I won't be much surprised if some time from now, someone takes a video like the one you linked as a proof that she never really liked metal either and has always wanted to become a pop singer... The operatic technique has been developed and perfected with one single purpose in mind: to create a natural resonance and project the sound without a microphone. How beautiful and intelligible it sounded, was of little importance. Some opera singers have learned to adjust their technique when singing with amplification. Dianne van Giersbergen, for example, doesn't sound the same in her metal band as she does in an opera house. There are others who never learned this... but I'm not pointing fingers here.😊

[@silverblack5475]

Maybe i misspoke but im pretty sure Floor said in some video ( dont remember which one , so many ) that she didnt particularly like it and her to only study for 1 yr kinda supports that , most singers who do study classical usually do it for years , i think you need about 6 yrs to really have mastered it .....its amazing how good she is with only 1 year .

[@BrendonChase_2015]

@@silverblack5475 Haha, no you didn't misspeak abt Floor commenting on it and for sure many would need their entire lifetimes worth of classical schooling to approach her level after only a few months. The "it" being the schooling. Floor used the classical style so very often (before NW) tho, that her vocal choices showed a genuine love of the style, applied the Floor-way of course and provided she was entirely free to make artistic choices of her own. I always took her comments to apply tt schooling itself and the prospect at the time of becoming a full blown classical singer. Sure glad she didn't like that idea. Cheers! BTW, did you see the clip I linked to? It's a hoot!

[@dbcanada]

Thanks, Ken. We'd love see your reaction to Dimash and Aida Garifullina singing "Ulisse". kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2nPmmOXo8mbo7c

[@bertjones3010]

He's my take - I think she's lip syncing for the video. So many cuts, no obvious mic, no camera person shown - that's just how it comes across. I figure there were three shoots. One for close ups of her then band members, one from afar with the audience and then one for the recording. I just wouldn't put too much into that it was a live recording. Not that she didn't perform it for the audience, just don't think it was part of the final product.

[@BrendonChase_2015]

She sang live, in real time (in Dutch: "live EN rechtstreeks") at the Uitmarkt Festival here. One take, multiple cameras. That's how the TV show "Podium" worked. No lip syncing. Cheers from Amsterdam

[@noneofyerbeeswax8194]

And what would be the point of such an elaborate scheme? It's not some kind of official recording made to impress people and make money. This video only exists because someone back in the day decided to rip this fragment from a TV broadcast and post it on YT - much like all other After Forever/ReVamp/pre-Nightwish Floor videos that are not filmed on a calculator powered by a potato. Nobody but her old fans even knew or cared about it until 3 years ago. Mic is quite obviously standing right there on the floor in front of Floor, about 1.5 m (or 5 ft in freedom units) away from her. There are a few more around the RLSQ. Typical setup used to record classical concerts and opera singers.

[@ToTheWolves]

Who tf !? Floorn Jansen lip syncing !? Are you fuxxing crazy?!