Vocal Coach reacts to LORNA SHORE - Pain Remains III: In a Sea of Fire

[@jeremykershaw]

If the Pain Remains trilogy doesn't make you emotional, you are probably a robot

[@kajlennartsson4234]

I agree. its a emotional rollercoster.

[@marieb.7082]

@@kajlennartsson4234 Ture. It hits me every time I listen to it. Over and over again. This triology is a masterpiece.

[@porkchopps]

I'm sure it would, but for the life of me I can't understand a single word.

[@PrelectXBL]

@@porkchopps must suck to be deaf

[@porkchopps]

@@PrelectXBL I mean I am hard of hearing, but I am far from the only person that has a hard time understanding screaming vocals.

[@Heiksch2000]

Seeing her whispering "I love you", combined with the musical explosion of the song as he burns down the house including himself to be united again with the love of his life breaks me every single time 😭

[@schnerpify]

the damn inhale right after is what gets me every time

[@uthalremmy6628]

Same, the pause as she mouths the words just absolutely breaks me, no matter how many times I listen to the song(which is quite often)

[@Maggot_infestedd]

I never noticed this..

[@dlsisson1970]

What makes you think that's them being reunited and not just another flashback?

[@NathanielBTM]

@@dlsisson1970 these videos were made to be interpreted how ever you imagine. it's symbolic of them still being there after dying, flashbacks of them are how they would be remembered by the loved ones he left behind, and that he and his wife will be just the same even in the afterlife... resting in peace happily together.

[@marcosro5891]

"dancing like flames After all i've done I'll salt the earth and i disappear In the sea of fire" Just fantastic

[@MrEthernopian]

The fact that the take the song titles of the trilogy and absolutely nail the climax of the story is such songwriting genius. Will is totally next level.

[@jeremiahmichael3162]

I want them to put that on a shirt

[@CesarGarcia-ep8tt]

Just reading it makes me tear up 😢

[@coltonclinton3258]

That part breaks me.. no matter how times I hear it

[@terosuutarinen7035]

@@jeremiahmichael3162 Might not be relevant anymore but their merchstore hoodie got it written on its back.

[@Andy_from_de]

That moment of silence, the silent "I love you"... That's the moment when everything breaks inside me.

[@BigBoy4004]

On July 31st, our 13 year old son lost his mom and I my wife of 24 years. The Trilogy came out at about that time frame and it helped me to stay away from dark places and focus on my son and his future. Thank You, Metal, for saving my life. Bands like i.e., Lorna Shore, Evergrey, Darkwater, I-Exist, Nightwish, Rammstein (the Zeit album came out during her worst time), Volbeat, Dream Theater, and so many others that are too many to list here were equal parts of the journey to learn to cope with the pain. If this LS Trilogy does not bring you to tears, you have yet to endure hardness in your life. At 57 years old, I had to learn that I can cry rivers of tears... And I am proud of every single one of them!!! 🤘🏻😭🤘🏻

[@Bowen_Diecast_Customs]

If you haven’t ever given TesseracT a try they have saved my life from going down the darkest of times.

[@TMConstructionOntario]

I am sorry for your loss brother, hope you are still keeping strong.

[@fredbarnes2600]

The thing that really impressed me about the trilogy? The composition, instrumentals, vocals ? Nope what impressed me is the way most people get personally involved with the story told, and the protagonist in the video. The fact that it's so compelling, heartbreaking makes it art. Thanks for the great reaction!

[@skinflute]

This... You have said exactly what everyone feels. its a personal interpretation and for that I love it. It breaks me every time. but you captured it perfectly

[@kraig707]

When people say heavy music has no meaning I direct them towards this trilogy, it really is a masterpiece in musical storytelling taking you through a rollercoaster of emotions 🤘🏻🔥🖤

[@Robert_Herring]

Still makes me cry. Painfully beautiful and cathartic. I believe the music and lyrics came first. The entire album is a concept album having to do with lucid dreaming, and the world that was created. In that timeline, the trilogy is the part where it all comes crashing down. The album lyrics are Will's, the storyline for the trilogy videos come from guitarist Adam De Micco.

[@theopinson3851]

Yep. If you’re interested in having your heart broken all over again, read the lyrics and follow the album story. Apparently it’s based on a random side character from an Anime Will watched as a kid who had fallen in love with a character in their dream world and couldn’t take living in the waking world without them. Pretty incredible how the two different stories work so well together.

[@trihexilon5]

Sorrow transforms into hopelessness before giving way to rage. An amazing trilogy of songs.

[@alessandromalvasi7768]

Since you were heartbroken about this, here's something will lift you up a bit: pain remains (the album, not the trilogy) is a concept album in which a man starts to dream and become a god in his imaginary world he created himself by dreaming. with this information the whole story of the pain remains trilogy just turn from a tragedy in which a man first lose his loved one, then try to kill himself, then tries again and finally succeed by also burning away the memory of her to a sad story for sure, but with an happy ending or sort: a man (well, actually, a god) lose his loved one, then try to kill himself....then tries again, finally succeed by returning to his real world in which he was just a man and basically moving on from a world which wasn't really real in the first place. Sure that world was beatiful since it lasted but since she was dead there's was no point anymore in it, so he just burn everything away, moved on and returned to the "real" world. Not an happy story for sure but at least it's not just a tragedy of two people just dying by sickness and suicide.

[@skinflute]

and this entire album is written from adams point of view in his personal life

[@Disturbed9745]

The reason why this type of music is so good is because you can quite literally feel the emotion of the words he’s singing and it just pulls you in on an emotional level. Beautiful.

[@AcidzDesigns]

And this is why we love Lorna Shore. No matter what your type of music is. This trilogy will make anyone cry watching and listening to it, and we fucking love it. Well done Beth

[@davidhunter3075]

When you were like 'He's OK!' i could help but feel bad knowing where this goes...

[@TheFlagnard2]

The panic and torment in Will's eyes when he says "Take me back to where it all began"....Also, when he inhales, right as the lighter strikes...incredible.

[@gms8994]

As someone who lost a spouse very unexpectedly, both the lyrics to the trilogy *and* the visuals from the video trilogy perfectly encapsulated my feelings in the days/weeks/months afterward. Massively cathartic to see years later. Much love to Lorna Shore.

[@Chris-iv8sb]

"I really hope he's okay" "He's okay, wohoo!" "He's burning his memories, noo" >burns himself too *quiet sobs* Yeah. Same. This trilogy sure is something.

[@Matjo7588dk]

They glide so well together while being very different. The first one ending on. " Am I just a ghost just like you, caught between the Seams of two intertwining melodies? " Leading into the second song, where hope is gone, and he might be alive, but living like a ghost, the second song is the time between melodies. So the ending of the first song leads to the expressions of the second. And then to the 3 where it about getting past the empty space between melodies. Where he is no longer a ghost just acting, but the emotions he is feeling is acting through him. Pain, anger, everything. The attempt in the second part was the uncontrolled action, the lack of everything. While the choice in the 3 was made with and understanding what he felt his life had become. Ending the trilogy with the words " Dancing like flames, after all that I've done I'll salt the earth and disappear in a sea of fire " Dancing like Flames being part 1 All that I've done being part 2 In a Sea of fire being part 3 And the 3 also bind the first part into it again, after the half part of the song, with the sort of breakdown, the melody and flow goes through some of the same waves we heard in the first song- ending with the bells and string actually playing through the same notes, but it start before that leading up to it. So both the story and the music is brought back together at the end. Same way life starts and end the same place, in all forms. no matter the start or the end. You never know where you start. And when you are at the end, it does not really matter. It was the choices and feelings between the melodies you experiences along the way that guided you to what ever end you had. The two things in life that does not matter to you, is the start, and the ending. because you are not there to deal with them or experience them. Yet it is those two things that mean the most when all is said and done. Because what ever you did with your life, those you loved, and those you hurt is all because your life started. And your actions in between the melodies is what you will be remembered for.

[@joedon81]

How can something that is sooo dark be so beautiful

[@bridgetwallace9892]

I saw Lorna Shore in concert, a small venue, they were amazing. Will Ramos' voice is insane. The whole band was such a joy to watch. Will taught himself how to sing the way he does by practicing in the shower. If you have the opportunity to see them live, go.

[@MystigrindStudios]

They sound amazing live!! Sooo good.

[@Nirian_vigora]

I lost my best friend of 11 years on Christmas Eve and this series is absolutely destroying me 😭 miss u bud 💚

[@Death_MetalUnicorn]

❤️🖤

[@BigBoy4004]

🖤🖤🖤

[@theresilientspud]

With you too ❤️❤️❤️

[@vagabond142]

9:58 As I understand it, and I may be wrong, Adam (lead guitar, the guy that does the shredding solos) is their composer and lyricist, and about 1.5 - 2 years ago was going through a massive depressive period, in the more extreme end of depression. Much like with Nightwish after they dismissed Tarja, where Tuomas wrote "The Poet and The Pendulum," Adam committed "musical suicide" through Pain Remains I-III. So, in terms of your question, the concept came first, the music and lyrics came next, and when they knew they had an absolutely revolutionary trilogy, they very intelligently did the music videos with a "visual novel" style of story, with each part getting its own theme (rain, snow, fire) to reflect the emotions of sadness, despair, rage.

[@iamdillyj]

Not lyricist. Will writes all the lyrics.we can see this in the credits of the album. Just a heads up

[@jayb7775]

Others have done it, my turn: "Dancing like flames, after all that I've done, I'll salt the earth and disappear, in a sea of fire."

[@jeffturbo904]

Such a powerful and emotional ending to the trilogy as well as the album itself. One of the best albums I’ve heard in over a decade. I enjoyed your series on these immensely.

[@dougel4709]

You don't always have to react as a vocal coach. When the art as a whole is this moving, just react as a human, like you did. 🖤 Great job and Thank you!!! I've seen this a couple of time times now. Mostly through reactors or while also reading the lyrics. Not to much yet just for my own listen. One thing I noticed this time (I'll have to listen some more to see if its consistent) I think the lyrics and vocals are always representing his inner thoughts and torment. While the music might me representing his outward appearance or the mask he is wearing for the world to see. While you were talking about the music being more melodic, he was quietly sitting. Then when the music became more 'chaotic', it was when he was throwing things and preparing to do harm. Maybe it just worked out that way for the couple of scenes I noticed. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I'm not sure.

[@johnnyne9428]

Thanks for the Trilogy reaction Ms.Beth , the lyrics and melodies are so full of emotion, losing something in life isn't easy and it's very true that Pain Remains and this band have expressed that pain in there music. Keep rockin 🤘

[@rogerhouben9230]

Lorna Shore raised the bar for deathcore

[@Imrakin7]

tru dat

[@jeremiahmichael3162]

Yes, who know where deathcore will go in the future

[@horsecrow6258]

Did you notice how the trilogy is bookended by rain sound and at the end by the crackling fire sound! I love that detail

[@markolar3161]

Just saw them live last Saturday.. holy shit!! What a great live act! Much respect! ✊

[@benjaminmoore4514]

This trilogy to me is one of the few songs that emotionally moves me 😢 the music, the lyrics, and the visual storytelling it all just… works together and gives such a emotional rollercoaster ride.

[@Maggot_infestedd]

The ending part where they meet again makes my whole body wanna give out and sob

[@DrSkeff]

Truly a work of art. Great reaction Beth.

[@janihaavisto79]

Seeing you react on these metal bands is so fun. You have nice way of explaining techniques and such, and you get emotional over certain songs as well. Like that you are so very British as can be, ginger hair, pretty ladies. What's not to like. Except more never metal, NW, Within Temptation, Sabaton ,Lorna Shore and many more.

[@BrianSmith-hb8tm]

Just remember, this couldn't have been done without Peter Welch, the actor that plays the guy. He did such a good job, that it affects people as much as it does. With our the acting, the music wouldn't have as much meaning.!

[@kajlennartsson4234]

Hi Beth. The Pain Remains trilogy is a emotional rollercoster ride. i cry to. Thank for the reaction video. Lots of love

[@UKMGTOW-mh4ij]

This Lorna Shaw trilogy always puts a lump in my throat! Incredible

[@Xynth25]

Adam, the guitarist, wrote the music first. He's said that he was going through a *really* tough time with this album, and I think it shows in the music itself. Then Will wrote the vocals, the entire album acts as a concept based on his memories of warching anime when he was younger, essentially someone lucid dreaming a world that they have complete control over. These three tracks function as the finale where the protagonist realizes the dream life, and someone in it, have become more real to him than real life and he burns it all down to escape. But at the same time, the message of loss and pain and heartbreak resonate so strongly that the idea of these videos probably wasn't much of a stretch to reach. I adore this whole album, but these three tracks at the end are truly Art in a way most music doesn't quite reach.

[@matteogiberti3297]

(Sad mode on) I had the privilege to see Sparklehorse live in Italy twice... then... It's a wonderful life. P.S. Happy 2023 Beth!

[@TheRealBrotherGrimmy]

I've listened to this trilogy in total no less than 100 times. It is the most beautiful thing that came of 2022. I have only watched the videos themselves twice (outside of reactions) I cannot finish dry eyed. It just isn't possible. I suck at dealing with death... it takes me a LONG time to get over death even remotely

[@BudduredToast]

What a treat to see your reactions to parts 2 & 3 in my recommendations. Made my morning!

[@barberjr1742]

Having lost somebody I thought I couldn't live without, the moment in the memory when you can see her say "I love you" and the deep inhale and scream perfectly incapsulate the feeling of wanting those memories to go away and the rage feeling like everything around you will remind you of those moments. It shatters my heart every single time I hear it.

[@BallisticStigmata]

A dream died there... Nothing in genre history has conveyed the "why" of "screamo" music. Such an over-simplification. There is no better, poetic emobiment of that inner voice -- that inner "scream." This brings people five steps ahead in understanding why this style of music is relavanat.

[@dodokmam3178]

the possibilities with music in these times are crazy. and those possibilites comes together with a mind like Will Ramos or Dicky Allen it becomes a complicated yet expressive masterpiece. Hope we see songs more like these

[@BethRoars]

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[@nikv3151]

You need to listen to them all together back to back no breaks on Spotify or something bc they instantly flow into each other seamlessly So does sun//eater and cursed to die

[@djackv5794]

9:10 I think the change you’re talking about reflects the change from sadness to pure anger, after he lost her

[@wetnightmare6661]

saw them live last month and man it was amazing. Their encore was pain remains 1-3 and words can't describe it. It was an experience

[@juhaloukaja5078]

I think the first part of the trilogy is the best still, it caught me totally off guard. I was not mentally prepared to be emotionally moved by a deathcore song. That said, the way they built the trilogy with the first having the rain, the second it's turned to snow and the last is the sea of fire is such a good idea! I think they are sort of stages of grief, with the first one being sorrow/sadness, second one being depression and third one is anger. Unfortunate that the protagonist couldn't overcome the third stage though, never arriving at the fourth step, acceptance.

[@sampeters1680]

Seeing this live was a completely out of this world experience. I cried.

[@TheJokesterSCR]

9:00 It's that moment during depression where you're feeling so hurt that you just snap and say "fuck it" and start destroying things. It's like going from one extreme emotion to the opposite emotion in a split second. I've had it happen. Not in the same way depicted in the video, but I know that EXACT feeling. Going from extremely sad to angry in seconds. It's so cool the way they were able to depict that in not just the video, but within the realm of extreme music as well. They're fucking brilliant.

[@vagabond142]

13:02 You'll also notice how much of a journey the 20 minute track is in that it starts with rain for the first 30 or so seconds, and it fades out to the anti-thesis of water with a crackling fire as the only sound. From sadness to, as the final phrase of the lyrics go, "Dancing like flames after all that I've done/I'll salt the earth and disappear in a sea of fire." A recall to the title of part I (dancing like flames), then part II (After All That I've Done), concluding with the title of part III (In A Sea of Fire) to close out the trilogy.

[@joel8584]

#1 is the preparation of the end. #2 is the depression. #3 is the anger after. A collection of the prosses of extreme emotion.

[@keithoffenloch3350]

Beautiful reaction to the trilogy! ❤ I was tearing up throughout the reactions, even though I’ve watched the trilogy numerous times

[@TheRedAnvil40]

"I'm so happy he's alive"...two minutes later...

[@comingfall6348]

Theres an album called old souls by make them suffer, to understand its story your have to listen to it in a backward order The story is somewhat similar but in more depth

[@josemari1460]

This song is a masterpiece. You need to appreciate all the work and dedication behind it.

[@pebblesandwoowoo]

"I love you" HOW DID I GET FROM WATCHING ENYA TO HERE?!

[@chriscordeiro1052]

“He’s okay!!!” 😢😢😢

[@amirulladhaa]

this trilogy hits me differently, its not the concept, not even the story but the lyrics just out of pure honesty. those who went through real pain, facing and fighting the same demon everyday, until it reaches the point where there is no room left for happiness, no purpose of smiling and no point of controlling the chaos anymore, and just let it be till u actually forget what is happiness and what its like to be loved. just burn everything.

[@Cendoria]

I'm a 34 year old man crying at a reaction video to a song I've listened to and watched the music video for over 500 times and it gets me every single time

[@tommymcgrory9039]

Yeah this is a classic trilogy , gets me everytime and watching reactors like yourself and charismatic voice also Tank, it is very powerful and effects everyone a different way who can relate to it, the lyric trilogy video is something to watch for the story breakdown but dos not have th same effect, looking forward to seeing them at Download festival 2023 , they may be lower in the pegging but come June can see them higher up , awesome reaction and heres a hug :)

[@enki4589]

These guys are truly amazing! Great reaction!

[@Farrell488]

Will literally learned to sing/scream and summon the devil in the shower lol

[@Alphablight]

the beauty of music. emotion

[@cammedgoat4025]

I think how part one the rain represented sadness and part two the snow numbness and part three the fire anger.

[@brunningstave]

Lorna Shore is fantastic. Thank you for doing all three. You should look into Avatar, Johannes has a wild voice.

[@TactiKTaNTruM]

As it is it's one of the most beautiful, brutal trilogies I can think of.

[@SunRayz3r]

You mentioned which came first the music video concept or the song. If you read the synopsis on iTunes it explains song by song how this whole album is a concept album and what happens in each song. It’s all one story. 👍🏻❤️

[@andacdrms]

11:41 i blown away in that scene.

[@mitchthemetalhead2589]

Hey Beth, I love your reactions and analysis. You are one of the few people I watch who always finds the groove and can move/headbang to the rhythm of any genre. Please react to the video for “Yen” by Slipknot.

[@ahvenraita199]

Thanks to react. Masterpiece songs 🤘 greatings from finland

[@Eiyaa90]

The very last stanza ties all three together "Dancing like flames after all that I've done I'll salt the earth and disappear in a sea of fire"

[@EduardoAlejandroCamachoestrell]

Omg i really love ur reactions 😄

[@steffren]

I haven't cried in years. 11:38 absolutely tears my heart in two!

[@svenmammel4430]

Anthony green- dear child. That’ll blow your mind

[@Finkele1]

It's actually composer's mind what i've gotten. Which is rhythm guitarist...and you can check his name yourself. Nobody ever gives him credits. His surname starts with O'

[@FalscherName]

8:50 i got Body covering goosebumps for solid 30 seconds 😳

[@AWCY]

Part 3 is about finalization he know he doesn’t “ in this world I made to be infinite ( I forgot the part here then ) that a world with out you isn’t ment for me” it’s he’s committed to seeing her

[@Empus_king_of_the_damned]

The end instrumental part got me everytime

[@Maggot_infestedd]

Will Ramos says he cries every single time he does this song live…:(

[@sayurimmiranda]

Hell yeah

[@unwrittencraft8781]

can i be sincere? they have a bit influences of French band Anorexia Nervosa...songs like drudenhaus or Stabar mater dolorosa etc etc most in the intensity or the symphonic area

[@kamen0505]

Hi Beth. Regarding Lorna Shore there's little more we can say that hasn't been said before. Being one of the few pros that react to extreme vocals I'd like to bring to your attention a band that literally blew my mind vocallywise. That's the vocal playthrough kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZXUZn6jnt59bcU and I am very curious what'd you say about that man... Gosh, to me he sounds even more inhuman that Will. Have a great New Year! Cheers!

[@TheLeafar99]

was that a dark souls reference at the end? LOL the sound of the bonfire

[@dmitriyarcebus6563]

Hello! You're cool)))) I watched for the first time about JINJER, I liked you very much. Now I watch you more often . and it's better for you. If you don't mind, I'll come to you for coffee.))) I'm a Scandinavian myself, half Russian, I don't know the language well. Happy New Year to you!!! Happiness, love and peace!!!

[@cpfbcchsf]

metalcore does not transmit feelings.... lorna shore: you will cry

[@Sabin41]

A lot of metalcore is really uplifting. Killswitch Engage do a lot of positive music for example.

[@thewretch4081]

Lorna is Deathcore not Metalcore

[@cpfbcchsf]

@@thewretch4081 I understand that deathcore is a branch of metalcore, so I don't think I was so wrong either, I made a comment that I didn't mean to offend, just to imply that this trilogy will make rain for everyone who thought that this style is just grunts and squeals

[@thewretch4081]

@@cpfbcchsf ur not so wrong actually, tho deathcore comes more from death metal more than anything

[@josephfrancis3250]

Oh shit, 666k subs? The perfect amount

[@ReadyToRek]

666k followers 🤘

[@tim.noonan]

5:20 all of Pain Remains 1-3 is in 4/4 time for what it’s worth

[@Heroo01]

Yessssss

[@killasebi1]

Renunited in heaven

[@Flipp0022]

Least he's finally reunited with her.

[@sofrino3641]

они лучшие!

[@toni.tapola]

29 December 2022: *665 k* subs! So close to *666* 😈, Beth! Soon... 🤘😀

[@ismaelisaiasramirez]

Cool video. Cool person

[@xwave5688]

988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline

[@Dubbel12]

Ill salt the earth and dissappear into sea of fire

[@quimfilipe]

Damm Beth....

[@BethRoars]

Emotional sponge!

[@viniciusrodrigues2871]

react to Infant annihilator -Blasphemy, and pure chaos

[@nobodyimportant7804]

The way that Will explained these three songs, the video doesn't match the lyrics in a literal way, but certainly does in a figurative way.

[@oscararzate7956]

As hecho que el grupo llame mí atención seguiré su música bien Beth 💙💜👏👏🍀🍀