Vocas Sony PXW-FS5 Introduction days presented by Alister Chapman

[@Laurent_aus_Köln]

Stunning lesson in gamma curves - thank you Alister! Even this video is 7 years old, the content is gold standard!

[@formattester6]

extremely informative. starting at about 1 hour in he explains S-LOG (2 & 3)/cine gamma/DR/rec709...etc with brutal clarity. quite an eye opener and a must watch IMO.

[@RogerShermanffilms]

This was a fabulous workshop not just for the FS5 but for understanding today's video technology. I'm a filmmaker, a director, cameraman and am lacking tech knowledge. Usually I have a tech with me, but I'm about to begin a film shooting most as a one man band. I now know a whole lot more, including what questions to ask my techie colleagues. Thank you!

[@chuckfishbein9327]

As always, I come away learning something new listening to ALister's presentations.

[@royesmonde1390]

Probably the best introduction I've seen to a new camera. And well done to Sony for allowing it to be delivered at length and in such balanced detail by a capable and knowledgeable representative.

[@videojedikungen]

Fantastic! Thank you Alister. Teaching is an artform, and it is rare to see a cinematographer with such teaching skill. Again, thank you!

[@FilmLizard]

More than selling a camera, he's giving a great Digital Cinematography class. Thank you for that!

[@brianisserman7064]

Really important stuff for S-log users around the 1 hour mark. So worth the watch.

[@joas162]

Glad I found this, extraordinary teacher! The explanation about the gammas is so good, finally feel like I understand the how and why a bit better.

[@robyworks]

One of the best presentation i ever watched, thank you Alister Chapman!

[@avarmadillo]

Fantastic---best presentation in memory. Chapman is such a fine teacher...and, as an American I note, no teleprompter.

[@teddywilson1555]

This is how it should be done. Very clear and aware description of technical information. I learned quite a lot and hope to hear you again in the future.

[@VocasNL]

Thanks for all your replys! We are glad that we could pass on this great info from Alister. As being said by others, it is one of the best explanations about Sony camera tech like S-Log, cine gamma etc and it's good to know even if you're never going to own an FS5.

[@DedeTheDrummer]

+Vocas Sales & Services at 2.03.52 Alister says about a DaVinci Tutorial when downloading the software; there's not something like that, and i would love that :( am i wrong?

[@alisterchapman]

Sadly BM have stopped including the tutorial with the download :(

[@maciejmagowski]

Best S-Log explanation to date! Thank you Vocas for sharing and big props to Alister!

[@wrkerrigan]

I recently shot a green screen in 4K... and concidered used a LOG... I'm now I'm glad I didn't! I also shot a timelapes in 4K using a LOG... and now I know why it look so awful. This video is well worth watching until the end, no matter what camera you are using. Thank you for posting this Vocas!

[@NicChristie]

this guy is amazing. love listening to him - this is probably the 3rd time I've watched this video

[@gingerfilm_latin]

Thank you Vocas and thank you Alister for this great workshop. You clarify so many misunderstandings about Log! Please continue!

[@typrey7799]

I'm so glad I watched this presentation. Just an incredible amount of information shared about the FS5 and modern shooting in general. Had I not seen this I probably would've ended up with an FS5 trying to grade 4K and wanting to throw my monitor. :) I was leaning toward the FS7 before Sony dropped this little bomb, and now I'm leaning that way again. Thank you Alister.

[@AlexTabachnyy]

This is one of the most valuable video for video creators! Huge thanks!

[@Gregg0Palmer]

Great discussion on FS5, differences to the FS7, Slog 2 verses Slog 3. All around one of the best explanations on the subject. Thank-you so much.

[@PyroKalfje]

kwam hij in Nederland de enigste KZbin die een review heeft gemaakt over een eng xdcam camera, was ik er maar bij D:

[@TheAekim]

Thank you for sharing this video. It is one of the most informative presentations if ever watched on youtube.You guys rock!

[@michaelcweissman]

Thanks Alister for your beatiful presentation. As usual, you are extremelly competent and eloquent. The SONY FS5 will be probably my next purchase for my studio in Vienna.

[@ichtus101]

That follicle joke went right over their head! :D Great stuff Alister and very easy to listen to.

[@makatron]

What an amazing presentation! Even at two and and a half hours still amazing how much information got squeezed into it. Alister always open to share and I urge you to go to the Sony professional forums for further details.

[@simonsharp9162]

Really do not understand how one camera can record two separate shutter speeds simultaneously which it would have to do to pull off this dual record slow mo/normal speed option mentioned 2:17:55 with the external recorder. Or am i missing something ?

[@sin3rgy]

Amazing presentation, answered a ton of questions I couldn't find online.

[@KTtv1991]

Watching this because I’m searching for FS5 review , planning to buy one too , ended up participating in a cinematography class!

[@JanAndhisfiets]

What a brilliant teachers. Thanks for the great information

[@ryanmaes9551]

Excellent presentation Allister. Really covered the Sony FS5 and beyond. Thank you.

[@filmfrucht9934]

Very very nice presentation! Not only on the FS5, also on Slog2 Slog3 and the whole dynamic range science! What I´d like to add: Premiere 2015´s new lumetri color panel is said to be 32 bit floating point. So I guess the need to go the detour around Davinci Resolve isn´t necessary anymore. I can´t really tell if there is a difference between grading within Premiere 2014 and 2015 cause I started using V-Log L on my GH4 last month, when Premiere 2015 was already out and since the internal 8 Bit recording of V-Log L isn´t very healthy on the color spectrum, I can´t realy tell :-)

[@chuckb61]

Congrats. One of the best all around videos I have seen. Details on the new Sony FS5 and many more details on Slog and LUTS.

[@antoinevanderstraeten1315]

Thank you so much for giving all this information, and for free! There are so much miss leading info on the web it is very hard to find proper education so thanks a lot!

[@bwest6275]

Holy mother of....best presentation ever. Well done!!

[@raredreamfootage]

Is the focusing mechanism Contrast Detection and/or Phase Detection? And how many pts and how is it distributed over the sensor?

[@raredreamfootage]

30:59 - AWESOME AF focusing feature!

[@Nelsont0258]

Around 2:02:00 you spoke on Grading in DaVinci

[@alisterchapman]

I've received notification from Adobe that they use 32 bit float maths for grading within Premier. I apologize for getting this wrong and suggesting that they only use 16 bit. However I stand by the opinion that I cannot get as good results when using Premiere/Lumetri to grade compared to DaVinci Resolve even when using very similar tools like the luma curve.

[@jaondrejmanda]

Huge amount of info, very comprehensive, great lector. Thank Vocas for sharing this presentation. One FS5 just arrived to our office and this is much more interesting, then reading manual :)

[@kipling1957]

Fantastic presentation, and I learnt a lot more than just about the FS5. Thank you! The one thing that niggles me is that it appears that to use cine gammas correctly requires an eye judgement of the display to reduce exposure and that Sony has nothing below 70% zebras. What about mixed scenes where we can't use a face to jude exposure, such as the night shot in Alister's video? Or ENG type footage where we are grabbing shots on-the-hop and don't have time for nuanced exposure tweaking? Is there a way that we can set auto exposure on the FS5 to under-expose cine gammas by one stop?

[@brettrogers1878]

hi Alister. My FS5 arrives next week. Question. If I used a Sony Vario-Tessar 16-35mm e mount lens, would that give me full auto capabilities? ie. auto focus, face detection, etc... I have a metabones aps-c to ef adaptor but do for see the need for full auto mode. Thanks.

[@markussteinbach8842]

does anybody know, if the future update will be 10 bit in 4k over HDMI? I thought 8 bit was only a compromise because of the SD cards.

[@Betterfuturefilms]

Finally I found here the piece of information I was looking for. Thank you Alister, your knowledge and the way you presented it, is just amazing. And thank you to Vocas too ;-). See you very soon there. Paul Malterre

[@flamepunch8]

This is the best review ever.

[@takeiteasy13]

My FS5 has a slight play to its smart grip when it's attached to the camera. Have you noticed this? It rotates a little when you pivot the camera and it does so with a metallic sound that might be captured by the mic. Sony supports hasn't replied to me about this yet.

[@MiguelMejia]

Wonderfully informative! Can I shoot 10-bit 4:2:2 HD to an Atomos Ninja Star via HDMI? Or is uncompressed HD external recording only possible through the SDI output. I want to shoot football matches externally and record slow motion goals to the SD card. Actually, is it possible to shoot internally onto one SD card and burst slow motion into the other? Thanks!

[@alex_pasquini]

A serious amount of great quality info in this. Learnt a ton, thanks!

[@LE100u]

Thanks for this video. Very good explanation of cinegammas etc. In contrast many KZbinrs have not much idea about slogs and cinegammy but still try to educate. Anyway how about very important question which I believe was not answered?: " why even bother to use something other than 709 if we all see 6-7 stop world.." And. For 8bit camera is it ok to mix standard picture profile with let's say cinema or pro colour profiles? Reason? To Maximise colour information and contrast with less stops but still grade.

[@ErikNaso]

So much useful info on way more than the FS5. The gamma choices and 8bit vs 10bit is very informative.

[@danielzee]

Thanks a bunch Alister for the video. One thing I can't figure out is how to change the shutter speed to 1 sec., I set the S&Q to 1fps, at XAVC 1080/24p 50bit, but the shutter will only go down to 6 or 4 and not below? Has this changed because I did the update?

[@DANOfilms1]

Mr. Chapman can the FS5 be profiled to match (or near) the Canon 5D Mark3?

[@tonylorentzen]

Loved it. Thought there was a bit too much information about s-log2 vs s-log3 for the purpose of the video. Don't get me wrong - the information is great but I would have preferred a walk-through of how to best set up the camera for correct exposure - meaning a complete overview of how to use the camera's exposure tools.

[@MrIanWebb]

If SLog is not a good option in 4K, what's the best picture profile for light grading?

[@trevorpinnocky]

I'm an a7s and a7s II shooter, but this presentation was absolutely invaluable. Sony should included a usb stick of it with every camera purchase, since clearly they have no desire to provide it in the form of extensive documentation. I would like to know what technical hurdle prevents Sony from provide a 10 bit color space, at the very least as an output to external recorder. With a price point so much higher than competitors, it doesn't seem too much to ask.

[@mettlingjerome]

Thanks for this very interesting video. Would After Effects be ok to color grading using 16 or 32bpc ? I've just began to work on Da Vinci on parallel after this video following your advices.

[@WayneLam]

Learned so much with this video and thank you.

[@andrewj22]

I am confused. If cine gammas are a half-way point between a standard gamma and s-log, with similar but less extreme curves, then why would it be best to expose (faces) darker than usual when using cine gammas, but brighter than usual when using s-log?

[@memmoli007]

hello Alister, I'm just using the FS5, I have not yet found a profile that is good for daily use for news and events of ceremonies could kindly recommend someone thanks greetings

[@r0ah]

where can i read more about all these words he use, "compressed, data" etc? and what the gamma charts stands for

[@gerardocamposfilms]

great as allways Alister, fantastic presentation

[@lifeguru2009]

I just watched whole..Amazing

[@lukaspictures]

So, does 1080p use all sensor pixels like 4k, or not? What happens with pixels when you magnify 2x?

[@AlexanderGrimaldi]

Probably a dumb question. I just got the Sony FS5K, I was wondering if you can capture still images with this camera? I know some camcorders do.

[@videoslice2683]

so do you still over expose by a stop or two if you're recording HyperGamma 4?

[@shootcutdeliver]

Question? Where would a 18% middle gray card fall on the cini gamma curves with a waveform ire ? I understand about the log curves should be around 41 ire but not sure about the cini curves -please advise -Tks so much

[@karmapolice3335]

any answer ?

[@tremorist]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@girlsbyvalmont]

Thank you Alister!!!

[@martinnoel3289]

At some point in the video Alister said that you can record super slow-motion internally in the sd card and record at a regular speed (24 ,25 or 30fsp etc) externally at the same time. I tested that today with the Sound Devices PIX 240 in 1080p. The problem I had was when the camera is buffering the super slow-motion (240fps) the pix 240 is recording the buffering image (the image you see in the lcd when the camera is recording/buffering the super slow-motion) instead of the normal speed (23.98) . The strange things is that the recorder record normally before and after the camera is buffering the slow motion... I turn off the rec trigger for this test. I tried the SDI and the HDMI output, but it give me the same result. Is there something I am doing wrong of you can't record S slowmo and regular speed at the same time.

[@alisterchapman]

No you are not doing anything wrong, this is a limitation, the buffering will interrupt the real time stream. But it does allow you to capture the action in real time on an external recorder up to the point where you decided to grab a slow mo clip. Without the external recorder the camera is either: slow mo in bursts or normal speed. If you want both then you can do this by adding the external recorder with the exception of the buffer period.

[@martinnoel3289]

To Bad. it would have been useful to have the slow mo in a different media for a sport event and the full uninterrupted game in an other. Loosing 20 sec or so for buffering at probably at an importent time of game is not very useful. Thanks!

[@KerenWang]

This was soooo sooo informative! Best info! Can't wait to get my pre-order! And a vocas rig on it ;)

[@SpLitSecondS_]

Damn good explanation! Gives me another few reasons to wait BlackMagic ursa mini 4,6k . Thank's alot!

[@herveamiotphotographyvideo4817]

Fantastic explanation about the gamma curves and the basics of the video world. Your blog xdcam-user is great to read as well. You rock!

[@PandosII]

This was absolutely brilliant, thank you.

[@glennwih]

Is there a monitor that records the data in 10 bit 4:2:2? Does that animal exist?

[@Adam_S182]

+glennwih Atomos Shogun

[@glennwih]

Thanks.

[@a_nick_t]

Excellent presentation

[@videographerfeelmyedit972]

Excellent Alister !

[@raredreamfootage]

38:30 - lighter than the A7SII? I don't think so! A7SII = 627g (with memory card + battery) FS5 (body) = 827g

[@khadanandachaulagin5488]

I need one sony fx7camera in nepal

[@tkraimark]

So many thank you , I like it

[@willy0297]

1:46:24 for my own reminder

[@mightymikerocks]

I own the Fs5. Amazing, in no light Situations, Lense came with camera can zoom Macro. Zoom out 50 feet. real time shooting 960 frames a second, looks like 35mm film.

[@SkunkLifeMedia]

what were your PP settings to shoot in low light, trying to find something good myself

[@victorlolo2008]

I wonder why Sony not teaching Sony users like Alister Chapman :)

[@theJBfactor]

You might be surprised to learn that Premiere Pro has always been 32-bit float and has had HDR for a year now.

[@alisterchapman]

Yes, my mistake. But, I can never get the kinds of results out of Premiere/Lumetri that I can from Resolve.

[@PaulRamen]

"you can only shoot slog at 3200" "with slog you should always overexpose as much as possible without clipping" Only one of the sentence can be true. Overexposing at 3200 means shooting (if you happen to have a light meter) at a lower ISO

[@trevorpinnocky]

you don't know what you're talking about.

[@PaulRamen]

If you are at 3200 but overexpose by two stops, you're actually shooting at 800. The in-camera setting displaying "3200" doesn't matter.

[@ShutterTech]

Dear Santa, this Christmas...

[@adzamree6870]

wow excelllent

[@PaulRamen]

Omg the guy literally told the audience to expose by looking at the image

[@trevorpinnocky]

no. he did not.

[@goodboyringo9716]

Cameras are a new language that need to be learned .

[@PaulRamen]

1:57:10 no YOU don't have any idea what you are talking about

[@_STNML]

Why? Honest question.