Vogelzang, Wood Stove Insert and Chimney Liner Insert. Install.

I ordered mine at Menards. Also found this one on Amazon. They were the same price but Menards had an 11% off. Different names even though they look almost identical.
Update: I also purchased the Ashley Hearth Wood stove from amazon for my apartment. When I took the damper out I could really feel a draft coming down without the top plate with strong smell of the creosote. In my parents place this didn't happen. They had no issues, I however installed the top plate on both places keep the down draft from coming in. without that top plate it may put a creosote smell into your home.
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[@Mr.-Sir]

I installed this in '21. First off, I cleaned the chimney itself. Then I insulated the liner. Then I used a cutting disc to notch the damper at the bottom to ease running the liner down to the bottom & to keep the liner from compressing. For added peace of mind, I sealed the connection to the stove with firebrick cement, then filled the open areas around & behind the stove with fireblock insulation. Every bit of heat produced comes directly from the front, with nothing building up around it. All in all, it's a time consuming project if doing it solo (took me 11 hours). I'll take it, since I know I saved a boat load in labor costs. All in all, nice video. 👍🏾

[@davewhiteman7723]

I kind of admire a guy who's not afraid to get dirty.

[@monkeybear32]

A great video. I liked the fact you didn’t edit out all the tricky bits. Inspired me to give it a go myself.

[@thatslumlordlife]

Only thing I didnt show is that I did have help bringing it into the house. It's pretty heavy but once you get it inside it's pretty easy going! You got this! 🙂

[@MrGlastar1]

Thanks for the Video! I'm a retired mason, who has built many a fireplace. I am moving to Baja and the home has a fireplace that has a wood burner connected into the flu of the fireplace. Someone also installed a FAN to exhaust the smoke. (I will fix it, but I suspect whomever built it didn't know what they were doing! I will most likely CUT OUT the necessary area to drop in the liner, and then use a mix of FIRECLAY and CEMENT to close up the hole! ;)

[@thelaserdoc1]

Thank you for showing your hard work. Well done!!

[@fingolfin9086]

This is awesome. Videos like this are so great. Showing the whole process, no editing, this is the only way to learn how to do something like this. Comparing this to something you would see on a home reno show, even some here on youtube, where everything is perfect, they cut between shots and show 5 seconds of each process and everything always fits together easily, I prefer this every time.

[@thatslumlordlife]

Glad it was helpful!

[@christopherrandolph2455]

@@thatslumlordlife First of all, thank you for posting your video. It’s great. My situation is exactly the same as yours. I seriously considering ordering the exact same insert kit you bought and installed. Can I ask, would you buy it again? And what would you do differently if you were to do it again? Like, lessons you learned. Thank you! Chris

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@christopherrandolph2455 It's working great. This was for my parents place. I put it in last year. They really like it. I just got the one off amazon and put into my place and already have had it going for about a week and it really puts the heat in the house instead of letting it go up the chimney! When i installed mine i dis put the top plate on even though my parents had no issues. Now its to see how long they last. If we get 10 years we will be happy!

[@bhud98]

I just ordered one of these exact same inserts off Amazon. They had one used, like new in stock which saved me about $400. Hopefully my install goes as smooth as yours. Thanks for the detailed video!

[@kccarl7447]

Good job. I put on in at the home I had in KC. LOVED the heat from it.

[@thatslumlordlife]

This went in upstairs where my parents live, they love it too! I'm thinking about putting one in mine this year!! :)

[@chrisgibsonthechimneysweep6829]

It's extremely important to install that top plate! Otherwise soot will run down between the old flue and new metal liner and can build up behind the insert. This can easily cause a chimney fire. You also want to clean the flue very well before installation. Insulating the liner with a high temperature ceramic insulation is important also because it not only keeps the liner warmer which increases draft and keeps it cleaner, but it also helps stop heat from transferring through the chimney to wood house structure.

[@christopherrandolph2455]

How do you insulate the liner with a high temperature ceramic insulator? Wrap it before you install it?

[@chrisgibsonthechimneysweep6829]

@@christopherrandolph2455 yes, you insulate before installation.

[@Dalethe1]

This video is an awesome example of how to show a whole process. You kinda throw caution to the wind 😂 in some areas, but good install.

[@thatslumlordlife]

I grew up in a bad environment and then joinee the army with two deployments dealing with diarming ied's so im not too worried about safety! 🙂🤣 crap wouldnt get done if it was about safety! Thanks hopefully this has helped people.

[@thatslumlordlife]

It's funny though cuz on most of my videos people talk about safety, im like i don't make safety videos! Bahaha

[@752brickie]

I installed a lot of them over the years !! Every one is different with its own distinct problems . "ALWAYS CLEAN THE FLUE AND FIREBOX AND USE A DIRECT CONNECT FLEX LINER " . Good video !!!

[@danielcornell3671]

On Amazon reviews, there are complaints of damper lever sticking or door falling off. Have you ever experienced that?

[@752brickie]

@@danielcornell3671 I installed a lot of inserts is what I meant. I sold Avalon,Buck,Napolean,Jotul and a few Vermont Castings units. I did not have but only one issue with a Jotul one time and they gave me a new one. Here is was a casting issue that was missed on final assembly but everyone makes mistakes. These were all very reputable companies that took very good care of their dealers !

[@1980Elplacerdeviajar]

Hello what is a direct connect flex liner ?

[@752brickie]

@@1980Elplacerdeviajar Carlos it is a flexible stainless steel most time made of 304 unless you are burning coal and then it needs to be 316 stainless steel. You run it down the chimney and use a connector that is usually screwed to the top of the stove where the flue collar has holes drilled in it. Then there is either a flex wrap of kaowool insulation usually held on with spray glue. If there is no room for the flex wrap a lot of times the opening is sealed above the stove and a mixture of perlite is mixed and poured in to help insulate the liner. Then a top plate is usually glued to the flue liner and a flashing and cap are installed. Some times it is necessary to knock out the clay liners to get enough room. Hope this helps you .

[@1980Elplacerdeviajar]

@@752brickie thank you man !

[@alexissanchez1308]

Awesome video great explanation thank you

[@willy895]

Thanks brother I'm planning to buy one and installed my self

[@thatslumlordlife]

Its not too bad, the liner is the worst part. It's for sure worth the money for how much heat it keeps in the house!

[@noursaad6261]

Great job! 👍

[@thatslumlordlife]

This went into my parents place, they love it. Im now thinking about putting one in my fire place. Thanks!

[@slickwillie9526]

Yes. I learned something. Thanks.

[@thatslumlordlife]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MrTotol74]

*Very easy to set up and use, attractive but be sure you understand the height--it's not tall. The heat is not overwhelming, but steady and pleasant fireplace **fireplace.homes** . It's quiet, too. I like the possibility of easily moving it from room to room in the event we want supplemental heat elsewhere. Definitely a good buy.*

[@thatslumlordlife]

Thanks for sharing

[@mikelenox8409]

Ordered an insert from Northern Tool and it arrived today and we'll be knocking it out this Saturday. Yours is identical to our installation including the rust/rot. My sons fireplace guy came out did some work and said its was OK to use but I disagreed so I purchased the insert. We'll also be installing a block off plate and insulation. Anyway, Thanks for sharing - you're video was Awesome!!

[@thatslumlordlife]

The hardest part was running the liner down and using a rope like I did, did the trick. I tried without it and wasnt getting more than 6 ft down it. Didnt show in video that i tried without it. Be careful on the roof if you have snow!

[@mikelenox8409]

@@thatslumlordlife I got three of us lined up for the pipe - it looks like a PIA. I'l let you know how we make out. Thanks for the respone!!

[@mikelenox8409]

Got it er today. A few suggestions: if your firebox is metal cut out a section on the upper rear so the pipe can run smoothly into the stove using it natural curve this way no kinks in the liner. Also, we installed the liner bottom up - took about 30 secs to pull it up the stack. Anyway, thanks again for the awesome video!!

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@mikelenox8409 awesome, I'm sure you'll like the heat it blows out. My dad says it's the best investment I made for him last years! Lol

[@HerbWilliams1957]

I have one that came with the house that I just bought. I don't know if the flex pipe is insulated but there is some kind of cement looking stuff around the flex pipe at the top of the old chimney. I have tried to light a fire in it twice so far. Both times a lot of smoke came out of the door of the insert. When I closed the door it killed the fire that I was trying to start inside. Some smoke was exiting the top of the chimney but too much was coming out the door of the insert. There is some buildup of creosote at the top of the chimney. I hope a good cleaning will fix the problem. The guy before me obviously was using the thing. But I am having a problem. Additionally a lot of cold air is somehow getting into the old chimney and coming out of the fireplace around the insert.

[@todddenton1352]

Thanks

[@javierpalomares2892]

can I use this to replace a 36 inch gas log insert?

[@js-un4tf]

Bro completely hack jobbed that liner

[@thatslumlordlife]

🤣

[@js-un4tf]

My god!! Lucky if that house doesn’t burn to the ground!

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@js-un4tf yes, inside a fireplace and chimney that are both made to have fire in it! 🤣

[@slickwillie9526]

Did you leave the white wool blanket insulation in the stove, on top of the ceramic baffles? I had a notice to remove it as it was just for moisture control during shipping. It was not entirely clear.

[@thatslumlordlife]

I didn't see anything stating to remove it so it stayed in ours. I did however notice that it was in there and wondered what it's purpose was. My parents have been using this all winter with no issues and love it!

[@danielcornell3671]

I have the same one on order from Northern Tool, best price I found and also give you a $100 store card to boot. I'm just a little concerned about the liner not being insulated. Insulation kit is over $ 300 alone.

[@thatslumlordlife]

The liner is mainly venting the smoke out. That heat going up it cant really be retained so no point in having it insulated.

[@brockbaker3able]

If you haven’t installed it yet, get a package of rockwool insulation from lowes or Home Depot. You cut it with a long bread knife or insulation knife. You can slice the pieces in half which makes them about 2 inches thick after being cut. Wrap them around your liner and use wire tie ( a roll cost like 10 bucks) bailing wire to hold it in place. Rockwool is actually listed for this use and is completely safe. Rockwool can be used as a fireblock. Cost you 50 bucks for the whole deal. And yes, you want the pipe insulated. It helps keep the pipe hot to prevent Creosote formation and give better draft.

[@fingolfin9086]

@@thatslumlordlife I wondered about that too, everyone says you have to insulate them to keep them warm enough to keep the creosote from building up but I’ve also seen some posts that say the insulation is not going to do that much anyway, and insulation kits are an extra 300 so I’m just trying to decide what to do.

[@bhud98]

@@fingolfin9086 I ended up not buying insulation for mine. From what I understand if you live in a very cold area, American northeast or Canada you definitely want it insulated but in milder locations as long as it’s in a clay lined chimney the insulation isn’t as necessary.

[@petehealy7120]

RE: The cap attachment for the flex tube at chimney top. Couldn't you have inverted it ? If put on other side up, it appears as though it would sit flat against the chimney top and allowed re-attachment of the chimney cap over the top of it. Keeping out all precipitation, insects etc..

[@thatslumlordlife]

The pressure from the chimney liner was still pushing it so it wouldnt stay in place without screwing it. It was worth it to me to leave it off since it wasnt going to stay in place.

[@joleneskuse7355]

What is purpose of vertical cabinet vents both sides?

[@apetro8895]

I have the same stove. The blower at the bottom forces air back into a cavity in the bottom of the stove. The hot air blows out of those vents and the top of the stove to help heat the room.

[@paulbusch3542]

I just put the same one in last week- bought it on Amazon.

[@thatslumlordlife]

Nice, only thing I seen different is the door!

[@mikeschlabs1196]

How much was it?

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@mikeschlabs1196 the insert was about $1500 and the liner was about $300.

[@adrianomeneses6683]

@@thatslumlordlife its cheaper on Northern Tools i bought mine for 1000

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@adrianomeneses6683 you must have found a deal or got one when prices were cheaper. I just looked and they are still 1399 and 1499. m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=fireplace+insert

[@boyceunplugged]

Are the panels around the insert sealed to the brick?

[@thatslumlordlife]

It's not sealed, there are two springs that hook to the stove and panel to hold it to the brick. It could be sealed though if you would want to use something to seal it.

[@queenstownkid]

man does that look awesome ....bet she throws the heat ..good job

[@thatslumlordlife]

It feels like it will, we were just doing the first couple burns for the paint and to see if it smokes before winter gets here. Better to make sure everything is good now than to do it when it's cold. Haha my parents didnt use the fireplace last year so they should be happy this year and keeping that heat bill down!

[@jessepoopoo]

How do you keep heat from escaping now that the damper cannot be closed from the pipe?

[@thatslumlordlife]

There is a damper in the insert. Lever on the right.

[@apetro8895]

@@thatslumlordlife That's for air intake

[@nard0q695]

after several months of using the stove did u sweep the flue liner yet? saw someone removed a decent amount of creosote already inspite of burning seasoned logs & all that jazz. can u share a video ? thanks!

[@thatslumlordlife]

I havent yet but it will probably need done after this year. I see everyone saying they need cleaned every two years.

[@nard0q695]

@@thatslumlordlife how r u going to sweep the liner? r u going to move the stove out from the existing fireplace ?

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@nard0q695 that is how i'm planning on doing it. Unhook the linning and let it fall down as i sweep it down from the roof. Then hook it back up!

[@mattbuckmeier5161]

So how long did it take from start to finish? I just ordered a Drolet 1800 insert and doing it with my buddy. Just curious how much time I should set aside lol. Great video thanks!

[@thatslumlordlife]

I would say about 3 hours. If you start talking and bs ing around then could take longer.

[@fingolfin9086]

Matt any word on how long it took you? Any advice? I just ordered a Drolet 1500.

[@mikeso5963]

do you have insulation on the liner?

[@thatslumlordlife]

I do not.

[@786otto]

I see you struggle, there was a damper in your masonry fireplace that you should cut/take out, your liner would go a lot easy. still good job.

[@thatslumlordlife]

The damper was already out. Still was a tight fit without it.

[@786otto]

@@thatslumlordlife Thanks for reply .Good video.

[@jome792]

If the damper is out you chisle away some of the bricks so the pipe fits better and put an elbow on the stove so you won't smash the pipe trying to force it on. Thats what I had to do.

[@786otto]

@@jome792 Yep that s how is done.

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@jome792 Mine was just hard to get through the bend, it wasn't smashing it. If i hadn't been able to get it then I would have tried chiseling some away if i could. I got it to force through though. :) glad you got yours in too.

[@Virgilsvortex]

Thanks for all your effort Hopefully parents are happy. We split our logs at 16 in. How many logs would this insert hold? Thanks for any information.

[@thatslumlordlife]

4 or 5. My dad is pretty happy with it. Its pushing heat out better. My fireplace isnt as deep and nothing wrong with it and I'm wanting one in mine now! Lol

[@knox199181]

how long of burn times can you get?

[@thatslumlordlife]

This is at my parents. Its above my place. Im thinking about putting one in mine but i try to leave iowa for winters. So i won't know burn time yet but the huge benefit is the double wall and being able to blow that hot air out between them! It really warms up the rooms and quick! I wasn't here this winter but my parents love it and says its one of the best investments i have made! 😌

[@tigertom53]

Need more distance between the liner and the top cap and i would go with the ariginal hardware..

[@thatslumlordlife]

I ended up putting the top plate on and cutting it down some. Left the same rain cap on, it also helps hold the top plate on!

[@DADandBOB]

I’ve watched this video a few times now for reference. Just bought mine from Lowes which is the Ashley Hearth replacement of this stove. I was wondering if have you had any issues with it since it has been installed? Genuinely curious because these are cheaper stoves. Thank you!

[@thatslumlordlife]

No issues yet.

[@DADandBOB]

@@thatslumlordlife awesome thank you

[@mr.skeptical3071]

What's the pipe kit you got?

[@thatslumlordlife]

I purchased this one with the incert together at memards. I also have one linked to amazon in descreption.

[@zacharycallahan7980]

Did your kit come with screws to attach the pipe to the stove itself?

[@thatslumlordlife]

It didn't.

[@zacharycallahan7980]

@@thatslumlordlife do you think I’ll need some or will the furnace cement/ gasket maker be good enough? I have mine sitting there right now, I just couldn’t decide if I needed screws

[@thatslumlordlife]

I actually didnt put screws in it. I decided if I needed to I would later. The pipe sealant I put on it is holding just fine.

[@zacharycallahan7980]

@@thatslumlordlife thanks for the help man!! I had the hardest time getting g my pipe through the bend from the old damper!! Vice grips and will power finally won the battle

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@zacharycallahan7980 I did too, for me that was the hardest part. Have to keep working at it and slowly yanking it down. Glad you got it through!

[@snipersteve378]

How did you lift it off the truck into the house?

[@thatslumlordlife]

Two man carried it. Dad helped me. He almost died though! Lol

[@snipersteve378]

@@thatslumlordlife did u take the bricks and door off to carry?

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@snipersteve378 no, we just carried it. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt anything to take the door and bricks out to carry it.

[@snipersteve378]

I just completed the installation thanks for the tips I love this thing it really kicks out a lot of heat for the size

[@joebearcat-bn5nb]

Wtf? Is that really okay to leave the exhaust like that at top of chimney? Seems sketchy but I’m no pro.

[@harold8032]

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[@internal_dialogue9290]

I don’t think the tube is supposed to be bent, smashed ,compromised . I wouldn’t trust it to not get clogged up there and would be difficult to clean.

[@js-un4tf]

Hack job

[@426superbee4]

he hee free burning lumber

[@larry3034]

That fireplace is NASTY 🥱 CLEAN IT DUDE 😂.

[@thatslumlordlife]

🤣 It's being used!

[@DabblelyDiddly]

Least you left enough liner for the next guy to do the chimney cap RIGHT...

[@thatslumlordlife]

It would have made it worse drilling into the clay and that liner having pressure from it being curled up. Nothing wrong with leaving it the way I left it. Still has a rain cap over it.

[@DabblelyDiddly]

@@thatslumlordlife If you have forced air there is absolutely still the chance for a downdraft to occur around the liner. and since most with forced air and a stove run the furnace fan full time it could be a danger. It is not sealed. That is the point of that cap that seals the masonry around the liner.

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@DabblelyDiddly 🤣 dude, now you just getting stupid. Danger!

[@DabblelyDiddly]

@@thatslumlordlife There's a saying "some people know just enough to be dangerous" and your one.

[@thatslumlordlife]

@@DabblelyDiddly haha what makes this dangerous... let's hear it! Even without putting this liner in doesnt make it dangous. You probably shouldnt even have a fire man. Way to dangerous. I mean something could happen... you know! Bahaha

[@426superbee4]

Its quite of a Dirty Job doing it YOURSELF

[@moochythecat3435]

Are you a slum lord?

[@thatslumlordlife]

Depends on who you ask, if people don't pay their rent i guess i am. Otherwise i remodel apartments and havent made a dime off my rentals and am still investing into them fixing them up. I also no longer deal with tenants directly because i actually do not like being a landlord. If i could do it over i would not invest in small housing. Way too much upkeep and work.

[@bobodean1]

At what point in your life wil you stop saying"chimeny"?

[@thatslumlordlife]

It's a chimeny man! 🤣