Voigtlander 35mm Color Skopar Comparison!

[@highlander200107]

The lens coatings have been improved with the M mount, and that is why there is a difference in the colours, shadows, sharpness, and flares. But the LTM should produce some nicer B&W images, much like the older single-coated lenses.

[@BadFlashes]

I definitely feel thats but I’m quite fond of the LTM coding for color. They both produce pretty different but awesome images

[@flannelcommander]

I want a Polaroid of you kissing the backpack if I win

[@Hotelsocks]

I want those pink shades Caleb was rocking...

[@BadFlashes]

Hahaha I’ll see what I can do about that 🤪

[@BadFlashes]

Glasses are from the Dollar tree …no joke

[@Hotelsocks]

@@BadFlashes ...Don't tell me that, I live in LA too- I'll find 'em!

[@BadFlashes]

Hahaha well you might have to go up to Biship CA to find these specific ones 😋

[@luknueven6685]

You’re right….I do LOVE that shot!! Mom ❤

[@BadFlashes]

hahaha THANKS MOM!

[@weisserth]

I wouldn't have expected the differences to be that stark. Good comparison video.

[@BadFlashes]

Right! Thanks yo! 😝

[@chrisgrey7904]

Wasn't expecting the difference to be so noticeable. That said some shots it was a lot harder to tell the difference between lenses whilst others were really obvious.

[@BadFlashes]

So so true on both levels

[@walcottrulez]

Did you take into account lens coatings? That could explain the contrast in the voightlander. For about $15 you can get a ltm to m adapter. I don’t have deep pockets so most of my m mount lenses are ltms. I’d love to see a comparison between the canon 50mm 1.4 ltm and the Leica 50mm summilux, and for fun, why not the voightlander 75mm f2.5 ltm and leicas 75mm f2 asph.

[@BadFlashes]

I’ll add it to the list haha

[@erichung9043]

I have the SC Skopar for my Contax IIa and Bessa S2C. I think it's single-coated rather than multi-coated. But when shooting with film, I don't see much difference on the images when compared with those from the Leica Summicron.

[@BadFlashes]

Oh that makes sense why the difference… should have researched that haha I’ll definitely get my hands on some other lenses.

[@thomebau895]

I have had great fun with this 35mm f2.5 color skopar on my M4-P, especially shooting black and white it really pops!

[@BadFlashes]

LOVE that ... I tend to agree

[@davidhunt9692]

I like the lack of contrast and perspective haze on the LTM better. Really brings out the LA smog in a 90's Tarantino film sorta way

[@BadFlashes]

Haha I’m so into that 🥰

[@jz8638]

Lens comparisons, yes please, sir! Keep em coming

[@BadFlashes]

Ok deal!!! 😍

[@ianafloat9250]

I have the first gen of the LTM. It has a focusing knob rather than a tab, and came with a lens hood. It’s a great little lens. Currently using it on my Nikon Z7ii.

[@BadFlashes]

Nice!

[@swingfire19]

Nice comparison! I love my m-mount Color Skopar. Have you shot with the 50mm Nokton f/1.5 II? I picked one up a year ago, and it's a knockout - maybe the only two lenses I will own for my M6 for the foreseeable future. New Voigtlander glass is really impressing me.

[@BadFlashes]

I agreee super impressive for sure. I haven’t used the 50 but I know the peeps love it for sure! That’s dope you love it

[@TheDomis4]

there seems to be another color skopar 35mm 2.5 lens. I got silver one for LTM, which i adapted on my M6, which seems to be a different shape. It also has a focus "knob" which i really enjoy using. completly different than these two though. Edit: ah should have watched until the end.

[@BadFlashes]

Hahahahaha all good :)

[@foggygray]

I had the 35mm f/2.5 P II in M mount and it was probably my favorite lens when I had an M Mount camera. If you can find it the Color-Skopar 28mm f/3.5 LTM has a reputation for being an incredible lens (I'm not sure if you're a fan of the 28mm focal length.) Also the Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5 is an excellent lens.

[@BadFlashes]

Those are some good options! I do like a 28 mm lens. I’ve been looking for one for a while now. Should I be turned off by the 3.5?

[@foggygray]

@@BadFlashes I wouldn't be but I regularly shoot with a Nikon 28mm f/3.5 so I'm used the slightly slower aperture. It seems to be a pretty hard to find lens though.

[@BadFlashes]

Oh damn… well if it’s hard to find now I want it lol

[@linjicakonikon7666]

I have two Voightlander ltm lenses, the 21mm f4. Color Skopar and the 25mm f4 Snapshot Skopar. Both wonderful compact wides. To complete my wide collection, I'm going to get a 35mm f2.5 Color Skopar C. (I appreciate your look at these Voightlander lenses.)🙏👍🌟🌟🌟☕

[@BadFlashes]

Oh so sick!!!! Someday I’ll get my hands on those! 4sho!

[@creationclouds]

I've spent a lot of time comparing different camera bodies and almost no time comparing lenses. Like sure I understand aperature, focal length, etc. but I really don't know where to start with lenses so thank you for sharing. Also, please keep doing lens comparisons. All of my information comes from the internet so I need more content like this!

[@BadFlashes]

Awesome! I’m glad you dig it. Yeah I’m fascinated by the lenses so they will keep on coming :)

[@andrewshieldsphoto]

If I had to guess, if you flashlight tested that LTM lens it'll have some haze on the aperture adjacent lens surfaces.

[@BadFlashes]

Fuck yeah …. A little haze never hurt no one 😛

[@christineclutton6390]

I appreciated the flat white reference, made it make sense. Lol. More comparison vids! Love ‘em

[@BadFlashes]

hahahahah Just for you!!!!!!!!!

[@charleyfolkes]

Interesting the difference in characteristics between the two lenses. Maybe the coating on the color of the flare? But the sharpness is, idk . . I know the 35 on my M3 blooms like crazy, like a pro-mist-bloom filter it’s nuts.

[@BadFlashes]

Nice! Yeah different coatings for sure

[@iangilbert6518]

i was SCOURING the internet for info on the 35mm ltm skopar and could find about no information, i bought it two weeks ago. And then OF COURSE you made this video after i already bought it. thanks caleb for ruining your life i blame you

[@BadFlashes]

Dope. Glad to mess up your life royally! That’s what I’m here for 😂 🤪

[@Benjaminjohansson93]

Got the ltm version as well, although i dont own a rangefinder camera anymore but use it with an adapter on my fuji! The ltm version is nicer looking than the m version imo, not that it matters much.. who am I kidding, it matters.

[@BadFlashes]

Oh soooooo matters 🥰🥳

[@AveFaria]

Did you find a focusing tab for the LTM lens? I jsut picked one up and find myself bumping the aperture when I focus

[@BadFlashes]

yeah I got one from 7Artisans ... but It is rubber... so not the same feel ... but still works

[@hattree]

I just got me another Nikon FM, this time the FM2n/t. It's super light.

[@BadFlashes]

I like light

[@Pollock.iconoclast]

Love voigtlanders, 10.5cm 3.5's (2) is all my laundry could handle

[@BadFlashes]

Hahahaha that’s still a good load

[@VariTimo]

Yes action is my jam with rangefinders. That’s what they were made for.

[@BadFlashes]

100%%%%

[@Jayysam95]

They are very similar in operation, but the bessa is not built to the same standards as a leica M obviously, and the rangefinder is not as accurate, but in rangefinder terms the bessa is phenomenal value. I sold my R after coming to terms with my GAS. Prices are climbing so buy one while you can!

[@BadFlashes]

For sure. They scratch the itch… before you plunge face first into that red dot! Lol

[@Jayysam95]

@@BadFlashes loll these are facts

[@nikkiwinston6814]

I have voightlander color skopar f2.5 for my m6😊

[@BadFlashes]

oh hells yeah you do! That is dope

[@brycericci]

I was actually looking into getting a Bessa R last night and looking into lenses. Perfect timing! Hahaha

[@BadFlashes]

I love it when a great plan comes together 😋

[@anhydrous9960]

Got a bessa R after seeing ur bessa R video. Best camera purchase ever, I love it.

[@BadFlashes]

Oh that’s great. So glad to help out! What lens ?????

[@anhydrous9960]

@@BadFlashes I got the C version of the 35 mm Colar Skopar and a 50mm Jupiter-8 f2.0. The Jupiter-8 was relatively cheap on ebay.

[@BadFlashes]

Nice. I bet those are fun

[@DavidSmyth_thatsme]

In the end it will always come down to the glass over the film transport system. I missed the age difference of the two lenses. Entertaining nonetheless

[@BadFlashes]

Glad you liked it haha 😆

[@milandoersam]

Your Bessa is the most beautiful camera I´ve ever seen!!!!

[@BadFlashes]

Even more than the Leica ??? Lol

[@milandoersam]

@@BadFlashes Tey´re both very pretty but I like the color blue.

[@666fiat]

Is the film batch the same. Just another stupid question…

[@BadFlashes]

They should have been. But this was so long again I’m not sure.

[@sunrisewow3077]

Caleb, you need a Contax t3, and compare it with the t2

[@BadFlashes]

Ahaha if only I had T3 money 💰

[@petervernia5074]

I love the jazz!

[@BadFlashes]

Oh yay!!!!

[@ZOMBIELUIS666]

Quick everyone makes fun of Jason while he is on his trip!

[@BadFlashes]

Hahahaha

[@thesecretlifeofmichal]

That steering wheel needs some refurbishing! As somebody with OM-1 and ETRS, never having the cash to obtain such cameras, I still enjoy your approach to everything Caleb, my man. So I stayed until the end. Also, you take showers. +1.

[@BadFlashes]

Yeah, I agree the steering wheel need a little bit of love lol Thanks for staying tune :)

[@NicosPhotographyShow]

Nice to see the differences, I had the LTM version but it looked like your M one, still loved it. Im a f/11 or f/16 guy, so maybe I never noticed…

[@BadFlashes]

Did you have my LTM version or the other one??? They are great lenses :)

[@NicosPhotographyShow]

@@BadFlashes it was shaped and feature like your M but was LTM, or I might remember incorrectly.

[@BadFlashes]

Oh yeah. Nice. Yeah that’s the one that’s basically the M version

[@FinalManaTrigger]

iirc Voightlander intentionally made 2 versions of the color skopar, an SC and MC version. SC for single coated, MC for multi coated.

[@BadFlashes]

For sure !

[@ripemangosmdm7997]

at the 8+ min. mark, my first thought was a saying my grandma's friend, who passed a bit ago, used to say about her other friend: "she's dumber than a box of rocks" she also used to say "dumber than a box of hair" anyway, boy o boy, I just don't know, I think I would go with the ltm. I kind of just like ltm lenses more....don't really know why....perhaps it's just a kind of allure, the options,the price, and I like some softness from time to time. who doesn't? great video Caleb!!! thanks for doing the work.

[@BadFlashes]

thanks so much! Yeah I might even sell the M mount lens .... BUT idk .... Choices choices choices

[@ripemangosmdm7997]

@@BadFlashes hahahaha, seriously, nothin butt. I'm realizing the more blog articles I write about cameras, the more it comes down to the unending options and choices

[@dotz0cat]

try a skoparet. the skoparet is my 35mm. my color skopar is 50mm.

[@BadFlashes]

I have never heard of that. I will have to look at it.

[@rkirky]

If you get the grip for the bessa it will hang on your strap better. :)

[@BadFlashes]

That’s true!

[@ldstirling]

Are you using a lens hood on both lenses when shooting, or are you using one lens with hood and one without? That's a variable you haven't addressed. You clearly show yourself walking around with both cameras, one with hood and one without. You think that may have something to do with the flaring you see in the LTM images??? And if you may choose to use Black and White film in your Bessa with LTM lens, does it really matter if the shadows look cooler compared to the M-mount version?

[@BadFlashes]

That’s a good point. But in this case I don’t think so especially since I’m not directly pointing the camera at the sun for most of them. Especially if you look at the one down that ally way type street. But definitely valid. My lens hood didn’t come in time or I would have put it in tho

[@yolklab]

Sunglasses! I need sunglasses! Naah, Keep em, you're beautiful! (Something Wild 1986) Watch it tonight ;)

[@BadFlashes]

Mr. Yolk … you’re beautiful!!!!!! Something wild. On the list 🙂

[@justinkingery2489]

Good flick. Check out a recent fav of mine, THE LIVING SKELETON (1968), for spooky season. It's on Criterion Channel. :)

[@dflf]

Put me in the M mount camp but where did you get those dope sunglasses?

[@BadFlashes]

Hahahaha Dollar tree! No lie.

[@qhgabriel1]

Your laughs in this video were giving me major Jim Carrey vibes xD

[@BadFlashes]

Hahahahaha thanks so much. I’ve totally been told that before :)

[@geminibornpoet]

😟 how do I obtain kiss, I mean the backpack

[@BadFlashes]

Hahaha details below boo

[@DLivingston]

I am way late to this party. Busy life. I see you have an AOL email, is that for real? I really love 35mm but I fail to have one myself anymore. I should really get one for everyday shooting. Love the glasses by the way and I can't see the difference in the lenses really. That is interesting the flare would vary in color. The End. Have a good week!

[@BadFlashes]

Yeah bro, you’ve been gone … I’ve been scared! But I’m glad you’re back and yeah what the hell get a 35mm! lol

[@DLivingston]

@@BadFlashes lost my job due to budget cuts sooooo doing what I can freelance wise to keep the $$flowing. Life. But yeah really need a 35mm asap.

[@BadFlashes]

Ah bummer dude. Sorry to hear that…. Ok yeah a 35mm can wait.

[@Sasha-fr6ub]

8:35 is that shirt covered in blood?!

[@BadFlashes]

🤯😵😵‍💫

[@kennethservida6144]

1st? Idk someone got me in Jason's first.

[@BadFlashes]

Damn... next time! haha BUT you are first here!!!!

[@kevinmarcus625]

Great video! I’ve been looking at Leicas and this video didn’t really help the itch (I still loved it tho)

[@BadFlashes]

Haha or did it help :)

[@oackgourmandi6061]

wait.... you smoke the pipe? your pipe looks fantastic, smoking it must be a delight!

[@BadFlashes]

haha no... it was for the joke

[@philoography8233]

If you ever think your financial decisions are bad watch this video of caleb using the same lens and film just to find out the photos look the same lmao

[@BadFlashes]

haha but they dont look the same! THEY DONT ... also I needed a LTM version anyways 😜

[@philoography8233]

@@BadFlashes and i mean double the photos means double the fun watching

[@BadFlashes]

Double the love 💕

[@jagwire8671]

sick nasty comparisons, keep it up homedawg

[@BadFlashes]

Baller!!!! Will do

[@iamunick]

"No one cares about f22" should be the name of your podcast

[@BadFlashes]

that would be a good one for sure ... our mantra

[@lmlolxl]

Speak of the devil. Taking out the Leica M version to Universal right now! Great video btw

[@BadFlashes]

Nice!!! I’m into it 🤪🥳🤩

[@Old-School-Liberal]

You mean the lenses right?

[@BadFlashes]

Huh? Haha

[@larson0014]

Actually a huge difference in the two... one is thousands of dollars more money lol

[@BadFlashes]

Haha not really. Unless you are talking about the cameras.🤣 Most voigtlander lenses are well priced

[@rolfbecker3812]

A very interesting theme, but sorry, I think you are a little bit naughty, aren't you?

[@BadFlashes]

Hahaha

[@revaaron]

10/20 is my birthday. pretty please, don't steal my identity.

[@BadFlashes]

I mean …. Don’t plan on it. Lol

[@revaaron]

@@BadFlashes that's exactly what someone would say who was planning on it.

[@BadFlashes]

🫣

[@wv_]

Mmmmmm 🥞

[@BadFlashes]

Yum

[@eccentricsmithy2746]

Ill take the Bessa over a over rated and over priced Leica all day long.

[@BadFlashes]

Hahaha I guess it’s a good thing I have both !?!? Hahaha

[@ianafloat9250]

My experience of the CV Bessas is they are a lot less rugged than say an M2. DAMHIKIJK.😊

[@BadFlashes]

They are definitely less rugged. That’s for sure but still performs flawlessly. Maybe just don’t drop it. Lol.

[@ianafloat9250]

@@BadFlashes Haha! Never dropped it. Had an early R2. Loved using it, but it was a bit fragile and unreliable. Of course it was a fraction of the price of a contemporary Leica, so not really fair comparing them directly on that level. Ended up buying an M2. Could knock in 6 inch nails with that!🤣

[@patrickjclarke]

older shooters might also say the price of the bessa is hugely over-priced

[@thomebau895]

Very interesting how you talk about the LTM flaring more whilst shooting only the M-Mount one with a hood 🤷‍♂️🫣

[@BadFlashes]

Well it’s not that type of flare… a Wes hood wouldn’t fix the specific situation I’m talking about

[@thomebau895]

@BadFlashes Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Interesting none the less, because regarding the optics all variants of this lens should be identical. Could be that the older pancake style has the dreaded issue of many older voigtländer lense. Haze in the bonded elements.