Volantex ASW28 - yet another awesome glider... BUT...

[@heatbill1261]

Thank you for the tips and the warning of the glue issue. I questioned the integrity of the plastic fitment upon initial inspection but will now perform some stress tests before final assembly.

[@ArxangelRC]

Glad I can help! Good luck! 🙂

[@wordreet]

Yes it's an excellent machine for the price. but soon after I maidened mine, I added 3 pieces of credit card plastic between the tailplane and the top of the tail at the rear screw. This changes the wing to tailplane incidence angle and really changed the gilder into a floater, in my opinion. Also I generally use smaller batteries, like 1300mah lipo. And the final "2 mods in one go" I did was a big one. I removed the red winglets, stiffened the whole wing with 10mmx1mm carbon strips, installed edge on into the wings, and all the way out into some wing extensions I made up from ordinary polystyrene foam. It wasn't easy and the tips are kind of fragile, but they are covered with glass reinforced tape and seem to work well enough.

[@ArxangelRC]

Damn... you've gone all out on this mod, well done! :)

[@wordreet]

@@ArxangelRC Thanx

[@wordreet]

@@ArxangelRC Hehe, RIP credit card!

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahahahaha... yeah... I know how that feels!

[@Smt_Glaive]

I absolutely love this airplane

[@ArxangelRC]

Yup, seems to be the common theme with it! :)

[@philoso377]

As you may already know that tail mass can increase tail inertia for sluggish pitch response to a less handling pleasure in flight control. This could be a practice when all else is not an option. Hope this helps.

[@ArxangelRC]

True... might consider removing the wheel and moving the battery further back! Should improve things quite a bit!

[@jxdigital]

9:00 how is it possible that the clouds shadows move in steps, while the rest of the video is smooth? It must be compression artefact? Interesting phenomena.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, that is an interesting occurrence! They are not moving in steps... were quite fast though, but I have no idea why it looks that way in the video!!

[@TomTM_ST]

Gonna get it and try to do a bit of high altitude flying if its possible. Great review!

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, should be possible! :) Thanks!

[@btbplanevids]

It goes great on 3S if you just fit bigger prop blades - I use 12x8. I fly on a 3S 2700 which has to go under the rear (top) ply plate to get a sensible CG - I took the front plate out as it serves no real purpose, and the wheel & well to make more room for the battery. Finally, as you discovered the tailplane incidence is out ... it needs the trailing edge raising about 2mm to avoid flying with a ton of up trim. For convenience I changed the wiring harness to use a single 4-pin plug to each wing.

[@ArxangelRC]

Sounds good, but I do fly with this motor on 4S with 12x8 prop on the Phoenix 2400... and it works great too! :)

[@btbplanevids]

@@ArxangelRC are you using the ASW's lower Kv motor in the Phoenix? AFAIK the ASW still comes with an 850 Kv, whereas the Phoenix (and Ranger) have a 1050 Kv one. That would pull some serious amps with a 12x8 on 4S! My 850 Kv motor on 3S is around 36A with the 12x8.

[@ArxangelRC]

I got the motor separately for the Phoenix 2400! And yes, 850Kv on both planes.

[@adlapl]

Had the same, it is supreme in its parameters and performance.

[@ArxangelRC]

Good to know! :)

[@julianhumphrey4843]

Nice honest review and great flying

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@mikesierra8593]

Wow! What an enthusiastic tone of voice.

[@iansummers6945]

I sense a touch of sarcasm here.....lol. Lucky the actual content of video made up for his excitement.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha... thanks... I guess! :P

[@colbourne666]

I had the same trouble with the fin falling off. Also don't trust the foam hinges. I had an aileron detach. I use full length aileron tape hinges that work well

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, I haven't trusted foam hinges in a while on larger planes, but nowadays at least most manufacturers started putting in plastic hinges as well. I only semi-trust foam hinges on smaller craft!

[@markcourtney7251]

Stalling characteristics don’t change when you go into wind or downwind! The model doesn’t know the difference only the pilot on the ground.

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... one direction makes it a lot easier! :P

[@eVroomer]

@@daviddou1408 I meant a lot easier for the pilot as it increases air speed for the model, making it easier to do... whatever! I do know the theory! :) I've had planes going backwards or sitting in one place in stronger winds!

[@ArxangelRC]

@@daviddou1408 There is no way I am getting into one of those!

[@gloplg]

ASW28 is a nice looking model. And YES the tail needs more glue! Had a similar problem top and bottom with a runcam swift mini on it. My heavy landings did not help either. Need to be slightly tail heavy to glide properly. Camera on the tail and metal gear servos mean no lead needed. Another interesting video. Please keep them coming!

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... perhaps even a Vtx back there as well... should all add up proper balance, especially with a bigger battery!

[@julianhumphrey4843]

I am glad you highlighted the poor glue joints, lets hope volantex take notice, also its time they fitted better servo`s, even if this means putting the model price up but a few dollars

[@ArxangelRC]

I have talked to them and they said they will address this issue... lets hope that turns out to be true!

[@caesarillion]

I am putting this kit together right now but no battery yet and never used Lipo either. How long can you fly on power? Have you slope soared it yet? Thermalled? It sure looks nice but I calculated the blunt 1/8" trailing edges added up 12" sq of base drag so I am sharpening them . Years ago I had an Astroflite ASW-15 with ailerons coupled to rudder. Flew like a dream. Thanks, live 100 years.

[@ArxangelRC]

Actually my endurance runs were on a LiIon 4S2P battery, around 6000mAh, and it could go up to 1 hour powered flight... not sure how much you can do with soaring, and I've not done slope soaring yet! The Autopilot I have in the Phoenix 2400 does automatically couple the ailerons with the rudder for single stick coordinated turns, but it is pretty docile... so most of the time I do end up giving it rudder as well!

[@jxdigital]

Not a word mentioned on the weird (almost negative!) dihedral? (The v-stand of the wings) That’s totally unrealistic compared to the real thing. The dihedral should be positive. I wonder if it’s possible to bend the main spar? It’s too bad cause I really like this model otherwise.

[@ArxangelRC]

Is there any, really? Could it be that the wings at the tips are just sagging down when the plane is stationary, due to them being so thin out there?

[@DEeMONsworld]

hang a heavy cam on the tail... what do you expect? otherwise a good review of the plane

[@ArxangelRC]

I expect to see some a nice view in the recording! :)

[@DEeMONsworld]

@@ArxangelRC I meant thats why you broke your tail off twice.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, I know! Wouldn't stop me from doing it again though! :P

[@longrangefpv]

Already stripped two servo's, they are not up to the task of a +2m motorglider

[@amadeuspati6682]

Does this plane have a flaps?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, it does!

[@mandokani]

Sorry but forgot to mention that I really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming.

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, thank you! :)

[@wbuttry1]

i never use a bec i always hook up to the balance port on my lipo when centering servos.

[@ArxangelRC]

!? So you plug the servos directly to 16v?

[@wbuttry1]

@@ArxangelRC 12 volt or what ever the battery is

[@ArxangelRC]

Sooooo... you using high voltage servos? That can work at 12v?

[@wbuttry1]

@@ArxangelRC i have never used a bec period i always thought you hooked up the balance port to the servo tester as it has the prongs

[@ArxangelRC]

@@wbuttry1 Well your servo tester probably has a built in regulator to bring the voltage down to 5v for the servos. Mine does not have that, so I use an external BEC!

[@CyberChrist]

I think they aimed for it to unglue instead of breaking, and I can't fault them for that.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hope so! :)

[@jirihamersky6152]

I like it, I would buy it. Would you recommend it - I mean in terms of quality? Thank you very much.

[@ArxangelRC]

It could be better, but for the most part it works well! Might serve you well to reinforce the T-tail, but in general it is a nice plane! Not as though as the Ranger though!

[@Hiasibua]

Sounds like your microphone is clipping a little?

[@ArxangelRC]

Could be... I can't tell!

[@elliotw5918]

Move the battery, yeah?

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... have to remove the wheel to be able to push it further back... and that is something I was not willing to do at this time!

[@elliotw5918]

@@ArxangelRC yeah, that is a good bit of work. Sweet aircraft

[@ArxangelRC]

@@elliotw5918 Indeed!

[@ror-ys3qp]

does it have hinges for the control surfaces.?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes!

[@ror-ys3qp]

@@ArxangelRC ok thanks but i hear the canopy breaks very easily

[@ArxangelRC]

@@ror-ys3qp Could be, it is quite flimsy!

[@guytero8812]

Spasibo for the video. Your English is so good.

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@rogerrabbit4284]

Excellent video, great info . Thank you

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank YOU!

[@PunctRu]

So wha plane Is better: Phoenix 2400 or ASW-28?

[@ArxangelRC]

Depends what you want to do with it! For FPV and relaxed flying... the Phoenix! The ASW-28 is a bit more aggressive... :)

[@pedrofdmp]

Guess a vtx on the tail would also help balance

[@ArxangelRC]

Yup, should! :)

[@Hiasibua]

Lol, using more glue also makes a little less nose-heavy.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, this particular glue dries up very light... so it wouldn't help much in this case! :D

[@ruisimoes3638]

Hi!!! Nice review. Do you ever use variometer (not sure if this is the right name) ? if so, can you explain a little? thankks

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! I have seen people using them, but personally I have not used one, usually I have an autopilot in these planes and it reports the altitude and vertical speeds on the OSD overlay, on the video feed!

[@flighttherapybullisticfpv133]

Omg PLEASE get rid of that stupid pilot doll and replace it with a pan tilt fpv camera hooked up to a head tracker.... soo much fun to be had

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahahaha, I did get rid of the pilot because even without it, it was a pain to balance properly! :)

[@BaschyGoode]

I extended my battery tray and put the LiIon between the wings. Now I can use every size of battery and fly for hours.

[@ArxangelRC]

Very nice! 👍😁

[@sureshbista9401]

What would be the cost to buy the kit ? I love it.

[@ArxangelRC]

If you follow the links in the video description, you'd get an idea! However... I am not certain if Volantex sell this as a KIT!!

[@nikleiser5888]

Hey Nikola, should I review the ASW28 as well ?

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, well... why not? Another point of view is always welcome! :)

[@gregkienle3378]

Where are you flying?

[@jailbreaker010]

goo.gl/maps/1Eo8rPEuxdDDFaBe8

[@ArxangelRC]

Sofia, Bulgaria

[@The_Pub_]

Still catching up on your reviews. As always.. Informative and Direct as I like, No BS. I will stick with the Phoenix and Ranger at the moment. Hope that Volantex LISTEN to your Constructive criticism though!!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks mate, appreciate it! :)

[@ВоваИванов-г5с]

@@ArxangelRC а чо денег на карбон не хватило? Нищий. Я при ваших зарплатах на супре летал минимум

[@ArxangelRC]

@@ВоваИванов-г5с Oh... you know what "our" salaries are?

[@ВоваИванов-г5с]

@@ArxangelRC Так эта дрянь стоит 200 баксов за 500-600 намного достойный аппарат а это что. От силы за сезон будет грязный

[@ArxangelRC]

@@ВоваИванов-г5с Well... this has its uses, and people seem to like it! I don't see a problem!

which one is better? 2400 or asw28??? Better for gliding and the most efficient

[@ArxangelRC]

Weeeeeell... haven't flown them for long enough to know... but as it stands... the ASW28 has a lot less drag... so it will be more efficient overall... BUT... the Phoenix 2400 has more wing area and I think can thermal better... and can slow down more reliably! ASW28 is a quick glider for sure... less wing area, less drag, higher speed! Really tough to say... both have advantages over the other... and it also depends what the goal is!

[@Capuns]

@@ArxangelRC For a FPV Plantform, what would you reccomend? ASW28 or the Phoenix 2400?

[@ArxangelRC]

If you are going to be mounting the camera on the tail... both should work equally well... though I would still go with the Phoenix 2400... it is just more relaxing to fly!

[@edwindeleon]

Hello, Love your videos and reviews. I am planning on purchasing this plane within a few days. Question: how is this plane compared to the radian? I have the radian and I wanna say I'm passed the "new flyer stage" IS the asw 28 a good 2nd plane ?? Is it easy to fly? I like flying to scale and fly med to slow sperd and glide around. I've seen some other people KZbin review that this plane is quite challenging to fly and hard to get into the air. Some people said it's hard to launch the plane and you have to run then throw the plane to get it to fly from launch. Like what I said I'm pased the "beginner stage" BUT I'm not an expert in flying just yet ( NO acrobatics and 3D FLIGHT). I'm more of a novice flyer. Also I wanted to add that I flew a REAL PLANE in my high school. It was part of an elective class that I took. So i can add that as a somewhat experience to my flying. Would you recommend this asw28 as a second plane?

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :) Honestly... I've never had to run to get a plane into the air... not idea what that is about! Running while throwing is not really adding any speed to the model because it is hard to run with that thing above your hand, and then it is even harder to throw it well in those conditions... so basically you are better off staying in one place and just doing a nice strong throw! That being said... really not sure why the ASW28 would be hard to throw... yes, it does require quite a bit of weight to the tail to balance, and if you don't add that... then throwing might become an issue, but with proper CG it is easy to fly and easy to get into the air! However... if you like slow flying... I would suggest the Phoenix 2400... much bigger wing area and can definitely slow down more reliably... though at first train for that higher above the ground, just to get a feel for the plane!

[@edwindeleon]

@@ArxangelRC thank u for your input and the quick response. If I purchase it I will use your link to help and support your page! Happy flying!!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you, appreciate it! Best of luck! :)

[@levedelson1924]

Overall which plane do you think is better?

[@ArxangelRC]

Depends on what you want to do! :) Phoenix 2400 is very nice for relaxed flight! The ASW28 is a bit more lively and does require a bit more skill!

[@zeno6111753]

Great video, very informative! Would you suggest this plane over the Phoenix 2400 if you're going thermal hunting?

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! Well... I am not certain what the requirements for a plane are, for thermals... but at slightly higher weight, the Phoenix does have more wing surface area, but this one would be quicker and possibly a bit more agile!

[@henryhudd1316]

Yea, I have both, this glider is easer to thermal the Phoenix is kind of slow at it so I would recommend this.

[@ArxangelRC]

@@henryhudd1316 Thanks for your input! :)

[@EricLaermans]

Nice scenery. Where did you record the flying?

[@ArxangelRC]

One location is in the city, the other is about 40kms outside of the city, where we often go to fly at an abandoned airfield!

[@EricLaermans]

What city and what country?

[@ArxangelRC]

@@EricLaermans Sofia, Bulgaria!

[@sotiriospappas3484]

did it runs fine at 4s? isint the esc 3s max? im using this plane for fpv and have a 4s lion but not sure if it will work. thanks

[@ArxangelRC]

The ESC is 4S capable.

[@collinsnjarara3352]

Awesome video , rock on

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@mandokani]

What country are you in?

[@ArxangelRC]

Bulgaria!

[@hasratmolla5876]

Which is the best sir...?

[@ArxangelRC]

Compared to what?

[@hasratmolla5876]

Phoenix 2400mm vs Asw 2540mm

[@hasratmolla5876]

@@ArxangelRC which the best of those Asw 2540mm vs Phoenix 2400mm

[@ArxangelRC]

@@hasratmolla5876 Well... depends what do you need to do...but I do like the Phoenix 2400 quite a bit... those huge wings provide a lot of lift!

[@hasratmolla5876]

@@ArxangelRC you mean Asw wins..?

[@williamcramer7391]

Flitetest quote: "More glue doesn't equal stronger, just more weight"

[@ArxangelRC]

Generally it is so!

[@patrickwiggill2962]

Very detailed video ,enjoyed it a lot. I would have not used batteries at the end of the plane, looks crappy👍98

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, indeed it does look crappy... but it was the quick solution to get it in the air without it being too nose heavy!

[@roccocafa7872]

Hi, I hope you can help me understand this problem. I have a glider with a matek f722 wing (INAV) , it is the first time that I try to fly with a stabilization board , currently, doing tests on the bench, everything works, (no errors and I can perfectly arm the engines) I have a solid signal from the gps, ailerons automatically respond to deflection, elevator responds to deflection but the only thing that does not move is the rudder , Is this normal when testing on the ground? Please, help me. Thank you very much

[@ArxangelRC]

Well I have no idea if that is normal for iNav, but it wouldn't affect in flight performance for the most part! For ArduPlane it should move in the stabilised modes, but I have not played with iNav in a long while and cannot tell if it should move! If all else works well, and it is only that, which does not move... I assume it should be like that!

[@roccocafa7872]

thank you so much for replying

[@ArxangelRC]

@@roccocafa7872 You are welcome! :)

[@robd8577]

Subscribed. Great channel!!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@dronepilot260rc]

I think I might grab this 🎉

[@ArxangelRC]

Its a nice plane! :)

[@baginatora]

Hello, Nikola I need some advice- glider or delta wing for a beginner? (by "delta wing" I mean the 525 brushless motor airplane on banggood) I've seen this hull being loaded with the Parrot Disco guts in another video a.k.a Parrot Disco Night Fury mod, so it got me thinking which one is more efficient and noob-proof.

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... flying wings are definitely a bit more sturdy as a design for a noob... but I am not a fan... not sure it is the best option for a noob... better start with something Cub-like... to get some flight hours in!

[@jailbreaker010]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3m3c2uMocqaqsk Elevator ? Also, what's the glue you mentioned ?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah... slip of the tongue! Sorry ! :P The glue is some classic universal contact glue. Might be branded as shoe glue too!

[@michaelmuldoonmikesm08]

detailed, thanks

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! :)

[@itsjustme4026]

Who makes these gliders man? Why do we find none in India 😢

[@ArxangelRC]

Volantex make them, they are in China. Actually I think they changed the name of the company in recent years... now its called Exhobby, or something like this.

[@tamastorma5379]

Where did you buy this plane? I had paid a week ago for Banggood but today they refunded the money because the carrier not shipps to hungary...

[@ArxangelRC]

It came from Volantex in China! No idea why they wouldn't be able to ship within Europe... that is super weird!

[@dennisbeautyparacetamol1490]

Buy it @ hobbyking EU warehouse....

[@ArxangelRC]

Banggood do have a warehouse in the UK, and I think this plane was available there as well! But yeah... HK might be able to ship too... they surely can ship larger boxes!

[@tamastorma5379]

1 month passed since the first order 3 from the secound... For te 2th time I ordered it to my family member who live in London . It took 2 weeks to dispatch the order ... and 3 days to arrive to door.The Uk warehouse is a total mess. I have very bad taste with the customer support. They provided missleading information.HK is a far better place to shop.I hope my plane arrives on this week in good condition and fies as good as yours :)

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... I do hope it arrives in a good state! Should fly very well then! :)

[@LotharKrupka]

Hey Nikola, I bought this glider from the Banggood EU warehouse a few weeks ago, but they refused to ship it to Romania because the box was too large. Do you buy yours from EU or from China directly?

[@ArxangelRC]

Mine came from China with EU priority shipping... no customs... no idea why they would refuse to ship it within EU though... the box is not that big!

[@tomtiny]

Dont run it that heavy...! Im flying it with a 950mah 3s in the nose and it floats fooooooooreeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeer..... And since it is that light its not underpowered at all and the flighttimes are also waaaay more than enough due to the ease of flying in thermals (I had a 2,5hour flight with 25seconds of motor)

[@albinhurve5521]

hmm? ive pushed my 4s battery as far back as i could to get it to gilde. First it was super nose heavy!

[@tomtiny]

Albin Hurve Well i got a reeeaaaally light battery i there cause i fly my gliders just a touch tailheavy to get maximum performance

[@ArxangelRC]

@@tomtiny I don't know how you get the patience to fly manually for that long!

[@vjaygroup8759]

Hello, you guys so funny.🤪 Glide foooooorrrrrrreeeeeevvvveeeeerrrrr verrrrrrr....

[@johnnichol9412]

The problem with all these "sail plane/glider" reviews are that they are flown as a powered plane and never as a glider.

[@ArxangelRC]

Right... well... it is a powered glider, plus I don't do much gliding flying...

[@johnnichol9412]

@@ArxangelRC Not directed particularly at you, but most reviews. Powered to get up in the air, then glider to glide. Yes I do realise that they can also be flown under power but that makes them simply another powered plane.

[@ArxangelRC]

@@johnnichol9412 Well... not really! They behave differently than a regular plane, and I have had fun chasing up drafts under clouds and thermals a lot more efficiently than with a regular plane that doesn't have the same body setup.

[@patrickthomas2374]

Ya and even more fun to do that with no power!! Haha ​@ArxangelRC

[@ArxangelRC]

@@patrickthomas2374 Well... I do like to have power, but if you have the patience... sure, no power might also work as long as you don't use too heavy a battery!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Any issues with 4S yet? I fried a BEC (I think that's what happened) in my first one, and killed it :(.... Luckily I've since worked on and flown TWO more.. GREAT plane!!!

[@ArxangelRC]

None issues yet! Using an external BEC should ease up the load on the ESC anyway!

[@brianevans4]

The tail of my Volantex G2 came undone after a crash. Same story. Almost no glue on it. Volantex should take notes and put more glue

[@ArxangelRC]

Yup... will take it up with them!!!

[@flyingfarm1]

Nice flying site.

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks!

[@EnglishTurbines]

Be better if Volatex didn't glue that Tail assembly at all TBH.....QC and China dont exist. That said, Volantex do have better engineered and designed models than some I can think of.

[@ArxangelRC]

Indeed! But then it wouldn't be a PNP set... perhaps might loose some of the appeal to some people, although would be better not to have the tail come off in flight!

[@Skunkhandler]

i have this plane, the CG is VERY sensitive. if that runcam falls off in flight you're done.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahahaha... well... it will be nose heavy... that actually is the better HEAVY to be with, than too tail heavy! Will be a quick landing though!

[@alexandrpetrov1110]

Very nice!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you!

[@alexandrpetrov1110]

Thanks!

[@ArxangelRC]

:)

Good afternoon!!! Excellent video, let's move on to the next challenge, thanks for sharing with us ... Best regards ... What's new on my channel? Yesterday, I flew alone my 757-3, it was a flight of pure stress ... Today, I published the video ... you are always welcome !!!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! That certainly was a long take off... but I don't understand why it was a stressful flight! Seemed to fly quite well... especially if you say it was windy and turbulent! :)

@@ArxangelRC thank you. In fact, I still do not feel confident flying this project ... the serious initial crash, which destroyed the first model and also caused this second fall, caused by error in the configuration of the radio software, makes me apprehensive if there can be no more failures in the assembly !!! And also the behavior in flight and all the attention with the flight information to avoid any new accident are making me quite nervous while flying ... it is different to fly an aerobatic MX2 or a BIX3 in sight ... this flight is more complex and lack of confidence is not helping me to feel the plane itself ... but I will improve ... this Sunday I already did 2 more flights, always stressed but very concentrated ... let's go step by step ... best regards...

[@ArxangelRC]

It takes time and practice, and soon enough it will be calm! Actually crashing is the right way forward to becoming calm with these flights... just have to accept that this could happen sometimes, but with time and experience you will learn how to avoid that as much as possible!

@@ArxangelRC thank you. Yes, let's go forward... best regards!

[@ArxangelRC]

Right back at you mate! :)

[@woogieman02]

Get a bigger prop and watch the thing sky rocket into the air in 4s!

[@ArxangelRC]

Well I did that on the Phoenix 2400! Does require a lower Kv motor though! And I AM using 4S on these anyway!

[@wodarzflorian]

I am in Germany and I can't find this product without 400 Workdays shipping

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... usually it comes from China for about a month... could be a bit more in the current situation... but could actually be a lot less too!

[@thomasedmonds6028]

Volantex needs to learn what makes a good glider. They keep missing the mark! Just look at any of the popular high performance gliders: Light weight! Generous wing area. Minimal fuselage (pod and boom) Modern airfoil (AG), Carbon tube spar.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah... they do make changes very slowly... sadly! And actually this model is quite old!

[@markdevore6]

I'm in the U.S. I'm looking for a volantex ASW28-V8 glider, with everything I need to fly it, hopefully I get a phone number which would help me out a lot, thank you.mark.

[@ArxangelRC]

Well, I am not certain where in the US you can get one of these locally... so not sure what to advise you! I can see one from Volantex on Amazon... but you'd also need some radio gear and batteries, but I assume you can also find those on amazon too: amzn.to/3c34orL

[@captlarry-3525]

watch some real soaring vids on this one.. its a real sail plane and what grace ! wouldnt be nose heavy, if you didnt overload it with batts

[@ArxangelRC]

I didn't overload it, and it was not nose heavy since I had the battery placed far enough back to mitigate that.

[@patrickb8286]

PAS DE TRADUCTION MAIS LES IMAGES PARLE D'ELLE MEME, QU'EL TYPES D'ACCUS UTILISER,

[@ArxangelRC]

Say what now?

[@braddixon3338]

man, give me the phoenix, the wings on this thing are way to flimsy and that tail shake is just bad. I would never take it slope soaring like it is advertised for.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, they are more flexible, I would agree... but they are also thinner, hence why this one is faster... but will need reinforcing if you want to push it!

[@Worldmountboy]

Just bought 2 from your BG link, thanks

[@ArxangelRC]

THANK YOU!!! Much appreciated! :)

[@Worldmountboy]

@@ArxangelRC ok, but still wondering, why after 2 days BG say order still processing ? can you check? Order No: 78414771

[@ArxangelRC]

You want me to check your order? I can't do that... I don't have access that such information! Did it ship? Sometimes it does take a while, especially if they don't have them in stock!

[@Worldmountboy]

@@ArxangelRC they cancel my order , dont know why...( I order two times)

[@ArxangelRC]

Damn... perhaps it is just out of stock... and after some time they send an email about it... and give you some options... I think if you do not reply on time, they do a refund and cancel the order.

[@clockmakerify]

Вподобайку, та переглядів каналу.

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! Much appreciated! :)

[@arminmuller5990]

The model has been sold for years with the same two design flaws, but they are very easy to correct. 1. Glue 30 g of lead on the end of the fuselage and the vertical stabilizer, which is very easy in the hull without being seen from the outside. 2. The EWD is improper and needs to be raised to place the stabilizer on the back edge with 0.8 to 1 mm thick paper. 3. With a 3S 1500 mAh battery or with 2 3S 1500 mAh batteries connected in parallel, it is now possible to fly without changing the center of gravity. The second battery is simply pushed exactly between the wings, focusing on the upper board, which guarantees a minimum flight time of 25 minutes and almost always with a low thermal of at least 35 minutes - do not worry, the battery will not slip during the flight! After the correction you will get a superbly flying model that can compete with much more expensive models as it is usually lighter. The model is also suitable for easy aerobatics and although the surfaces sag unbelievably, I have not yet managed to destroy it in the air. I'm thinking about making the wings shiny, but this is definitely not necessary and colorful so I can see the model better.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah... well... unless somebody points Volantex, while screaming, at the problem... they have a hard time addressing issues!

[@ericoschmitt]

ArxangelRC have you tried emailing them?

[@ericoschmitt]

Armin Müller What do you mean by EWD? I didn’t understand the second part. Do you mean raise the whole vertical stabilizer by 1mm with a spacer? I read someone else mentioning glueing two credit card layers below the vertical stabilizer, is that it?

[@arminmuller5990]

I have already explained this question in detail in Andrew Newton's video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWeakKuVZsZnnbs Pad only on the rear edge of the elevator! You should start with 0.7 to 0.8 mm first - in the end the "correct" setting is also a question of your preferences. After that, the ASW can be flown a little slower without sinking faster. But don't overdo it, the ASW is not a floater.

[@ArxangelRC]

I do talk to them often... doesn't make it any easier! :P

[@ericoschmitt]

Your video and comments are absolutely great, but they would be some 20% better if you didn’t speak with a too monotone speech dynamics. Seriously, take no offense and have a look at that, you will hook more audience!

[@ArxangelRC]

This has been mentioned... will see what I can do...

[@mike_oe]

Don't point your finger at me and shout...

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahahahahahahaha

[@josephinebennington7247]

While being informative and useful, please, next time, pause your monologue for effect and maybe even taking a breath? Like inserting paragraphs into a piece of text. Like this. The present effect is a monotonous conveyor belt of information.

[@creativeintelligence2100]

Yep. In his newer videos he even cut breathes between words to sound like he didnt breath

[@ArxangelRC]

Well I do edit it that way because I really don't like the sound of me breathing in...

[@Calliber84]

Take a break from talking

[@ArxangelRC]

I do... between the videos! :P

[@Jolan9340]

First again

[@Jolan9340]

;)

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha

[@npc6817]

"I expected this to be a very fast plane that would stall as soon as I slowed down or shut down the engine" What am I supposed to take from a glider review made by someone who doesn't even know what a glider is?

[@ArxangelRC]

I am merely saying what is on every beginner's mind! My videos are no only for glider pros mate... chill!

[@npc6817]

@@ArxangelRC I'm sorry if I came across stronger than I meant but no offense, if you consider yourself a beginner then maybe you shouldn't be doing reviews in the first place? this isn't to try to bully you off of youtube, there's plenty of video formats you could do like vlogs or build logs but if you choose to present yourself as a reviewer people will take it as a given that you must be an authority or at the very least somewhat competent in the field. even if that wasn't the case as a reviewer is your responsibility to present the most informed and informative opinion as you can, so you should at least do a bit of research before presenting a product. no one is expecting you to become a master of thermals overnight for a video but I don't think expecting a reviewer to understand that _gliders are meant to glide_ is asking too much. more experienced hobbyists will just shrug you off as inexperience and go about their day but another beginner might just take you at face value and get into the hobby with flawed knowledge/expectations. In this world any role comes with responsibilities attached, i you can't or don't want to shoulder them find some other way to express your passion

[@ArxangelRC]

@@npc6817 ​ Damn... talk about an unwarranted rant... you certainly take the crown mate! Experience with gliders I have, though not extensive, and with thermaling too, but there is a very specific reason, from my past experience, why I would have that expectation SPECIFICALLY from a Volantex product! I first got into proper FPV with the FPV Raptor, which, when overweight and nose heavy, was absolutely notorious about its spiral of death, which was recoverable, but took some experience to do it, and quite reactions! I've only had one crash from such a spiral, and it was because the battery disconnected in flight, speed dropped... and down it went! All other cases I've been able to recover before it hit the ground! From because of this model I developed a fear of flying slow and dropping throttle, especially when it came to Volantex models, and the ASW with those thin and long wings, who's design hadn't changed since the time of the FPV Raptor... kinda was nudging me again to that trail of though, whether it will stay in the air, or tip stall... hence the mention! Perhaps I should have explained it better in the video, so people would know where I am coming from with that statement... but coming from that point of view... doesn't make the statement any less valid! ALSO... lots of beginners do watch my videos, and I am pretty certain this sort of reasoning could be going through somebody's head, hence why I stall test EVERY new plane I fly, immediately after take off on the maiden flight!!!

[@npc6817]

@@ArxangelRC okay then, I made a wrong assumption, I was wrong, I'm sorry. I hope I didn't put you in a bad mood or anything, I'm not good at setting a tone with english so whenever I try to say something more confrontational I always come across more harsh and angry than I actually am.

[@ArxangelRC]

@@npc6817 Haha, don't worry mate, I am not easy to put in a bad mood! And like I said... I should have better explained where I was coming from, in the video, so as to avoid the confusion and make it obvious why I said that! If you go back long enough in my videos... you will find some videos from the FPV Raptor era! Things were a lot more experimental back then! :)