VOLTI Razz, Are You Ready For Your First Horn Speaker?

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Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

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@danielmiller2860
@danielmiller2860 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my Volti Razz V2, they exceeded my Klipsch Chorus by leaps and bounds. My favorite speaker I have ever owned 🫶
@ruby2thursday
@ruby2thursday Жыл бұрын
so....are you saying they 'Eklipsched' them??
@ScottGrammer
@ScottGrammer Жыл бұрын
I'm so excited! My 1968 Cornwalls are coming out of storage and will be installed this weekend! I haven't heard them in 20 years.
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones Жыл бұрын
Ohh how nice. Take ot slow so you dont burn anything up
@hamidrezahabibi8111
@hamidrezahabibi8111 Жыл бұрын
Your 1968 Cornwalls are one year older than me 😅
@bradearles9066
@bradearles9066 Жыл бұрын
You might need to replace some electrolytic caps if they're the original capacitors. If so, there's lots of better film caps available that will be an improvement. Old defective capacitors can cause damage to mids and tweeters.
@ScottGrammer
@ScottGrammer Жыл бұрын
@@bradearles9066 You're correct, generally, and I work on vintage audio gear for a living so that's how I know I know you're correct. However, Klipsch knew this too, back in the day, so that's why all the caps in those crossovers are either film caps or oil caps. No electrolytics.
@bradearles9066
@bradearles9066 Жыл бұрын
@ScottGrammer thank you for that helpful information Scott. Very forward thinking on the part of Klipsch. I'm still a newbie in the horn world as an amateur DIY speaker builder. Have a pair of Altec 288C and 1003 horns and have drivers to build the JBL M2 which are said to be great horns and I'm looking forward to finding out. Enjoy those fantastic Klipsch of yours. I've only heard the big Klipsch a couple if times and I was very impressed by what I heard. Thanks again Scott.
@bigburns0909
@bigburns0909 Жыл бұрын
I’ve enjoyed my Volti Rivals for past 3 years, and I absolutely love them. Better than same sized Klipsch. I have them powered by a 250 integrated Pass Labs amp, and the energy and excitement are remarkable. Plus, Greg is a craftsman and a pleasure to work with.
@VIctorCarruyo
@VIctorCarruyo Жыл бұрын
Those inductors should be rearranged to prevent their fields from interacting with each other. They should be perpendicular to each other, so that they don't couple with each other. Maybe that is the reason for the wood. However, I hope that is not a metal screw in the middle of the inductors. They would be much better off being zip tied to the board and hot glued.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
You needn't worry too much, because the inductors are perpendicular to any others that they need to be perpendicular to, and the threaded rod that goes down through is made of Nylon. I got this man!
@VIctorCarruyo
@VIctorCarruyo Жыл бұрын
@@voltiaudio You are correct, my perspective while looking at the boards was all wrong. Everything is perpendicular. Now, you really did it with the plastic bolts. Hat off, for that little detail detail. Really shows you care about the details. Any plans on offering upgrades or even higher end xovers ? Like copper bypass caps, premium caps, and foil inductors. Just out of curiosity. As you already seem to be at a really high level in parts quality. Kudos for that.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
@@VIctorCarruyo No, no plans for higher end crossovers for the Razz. I'm pretty happy with the parts used and the build quality. It was only about two years ago that I made the change to having a mechanical connection between each component of the crossover. If you look closely, you'll see that the lead wires from each component are tinned and then mechanically connected with a tinned copper barrel, crimped under high pressure. Then each connection is backed up by solder. This little detail is much better than the way we used to do it - soldering each of the component wire leads to a solder post, often not even making contact with one another. So this means the signal from one lead wire to another was going though the solder post - and what was that post made of? Not copper! I made a lot of simple improvement like this in the build of the Razz crossovers and I'll be darned if it didn't actually make the speakers sound a little bit better. Thank you for your interest.
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Not sure I understand how this speaker sounds from your review though. I am a horn fan (own the JBL 4367) and agree that horns make compressed music better. Honestly they are just better than box speakers.
@PrinceWesterburg
@PrinceWesterburg Жыл бұрын
The Klipsch has rather pedestrian components in the crossover and everything is crimped on spade connectors which are great for your car but… they could try harder.
@fts81
@fts81 Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, I was really looking forward to your review. I have a pair of Razz since last December, and I paired with a Leben CS600X and a Rega P10. Last system of my life. I absolutely adore it
@pkats9093
@pkats9093 Жыл бұрын
I have never been a fan of horn speakers ala Klipsch, etc. But, these really impressed me at Axpona. So much so I went back for a second listen. Unfortunately, outside of my budget at this time. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes open for a well priced used pair!
@Wised1000
@Wised1000 Жыл бұрын
Ive always loved horns. Paired with a tube amp, they are the definition of warm smooth sound. Not acurate or precise but like a bowl of Hagen Dass always satisfying👍
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD Жыл бұрын
Another brand thats piqued my intrest for some time now.They come across to me as Klipsch heritage speakers "Done Right" !
@badgerdms
@badgerdms Жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon Greg and his Vittora's at either the first or second Capitol Audio Fest and was blown away by the sound from a most unexpected new speaker designer. Back then, he still called Maine home and he did this great demo of him speaking through the midrange horn from a K-Horn (which he used to fix for folks) and then through his midrange horn. The K-Horn sounded honky while his sounded like a human voice. Very impressive. I jumped on the chance to buy a pair of his Razz speakers during COVID, and owned them for about seven months before I had to upgrade to the Rivals (thanks to a COVID canceled cruise vacation refund). I owned a pair of Forte III's ahead of the Razz and I can say the Razz a much more refined and engaging listen. For those complainning about the finish quality, I had the Bosse Cedar finish and it was stunning. My Rival SEs are next level with curved backs and matching external crossovers. And they sound even better than they look. Greg makes great speakers that are spectacular looking to boot. There is a reason that the Volti/Border Patrol/Triode Wire Labs room always get mentioned as one of the "Best In Show" wherever they exhibit.
@peteleoni9665
@peteleoni9665 Жыл бұрын
Remember this too, like it or not, when you hear "uncompression" you are hearing low distortion of the type that our ears *do* give about. I have to master on direct radiation speakers, but I will not listen to direct radiation speakers. Paul Klipsch had this figured out decades ago, but the drivers components and general knowledge did not allow the optimization that is possible now. Also, the dsp (conversion) is about to be undetectable. The day of the horn speaker has once again arisen.
@genehart261
@genehart261 Жыл бұрын
After reading the review of the Volti Rival speakers by Ken Micalef in Stereophile, I contacted Greg Roberts and bought a pair without ever hearing them. Basic birch cabinets, I love these speakers; they are a legacy product which will be passed on. Greg Roberts himself is a great person to deal with and he is truly involved with his customers, I can't say enough good about the speakers or the company. Primaluna power amp rated at 21 watts in triode mode gives all the power and volume ever required.
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
Yeah well how much are they paying you? Let me help you guys out and be on your journey with you. Volti Razz in Steve's review (not the Rival) you know ... Steve shows the X-over Hooray! But they don't show the rear of the woofer ... why not? Because you see that would take away from the sales pitch. Believe me if you want a speaker for your Primaluna, 21 watt Kinkless Tetrode, you need a Vitavox Air Partner and why ... WHY is the crummy Volti not good enough? Well ... just compare them. The Vitavox has no back emf problem.
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 Жыл бұрын
@@keplermission Wow fellah, did the Volti guy steal your wife or shoot yer dog or somethin' ? 😄
@genehart261
@genehart261 Жыл бұрын
@@englishsteve1465 Yeah, he's pretty angry over a set of speakers.
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
@@englishsteve1465 LOL I was wondering the same thing. Quite a bit of anger there.
@vcp93
@vcp93 Жыл бұрын
Wait 2 years for a Decware product? You'd be EXTREMELY lucky to get it in ONLY 2 years. Try closer to 4 years and that's not hyperbole either.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, but I know how to make that waiting list shrink, raise the prices! A lot. When supply can't match demand it's because the price is too low. Steve isn't going to raise prices, but he doesn't want to to move to a larger, more expense space, and train a lot of new workers, that would also raise his costs. Companies like Decware can't get to economies of scale.
@christianwilliamson9752
@christianwilliamson9752 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@DrSinisster
@DrSinisster Жыл бұрын
Im about 9 Months in. And Looks like in Total it will be about just under 2 years to get it to final assembly/testing. Can’t wait.
@geol7408
@geol7408 Жыл бұрын
I just finished one year on the Decware waiting list and expect about another year and a half before I get my little Zen amp. I honestly timed my order to hit about the time I retire. My little retirement gift to myself. With only a small deposit at risk, I knew what I was getting into when I ordered. Still beats more Chinese junk components - no matter how quickly they arrive.
@eggshellskullrule7971
@eggshellskullrule7971 Жыл бұрын
Decware means exclusivity to some degree. Nobody wants a ubequitous product like Line Magnetic Mini 218iA, costing from $300-400 new to 200 used. Yikes! I made a belated decision for my retirement gift on 2 new Zen Triode SE84UFO!Will have to wait 2.5 years for mine to arrive. But meanwhile I have a few 10K SET OPT’s around to make my trials on a DIY scheme.
@2shoestoo
@2shoestoo Жыл бұрын
The plywood Is Baltic Birch very popular in hi-end cabinet building
@The123neil
@The123neil Жыл бұрын
I heard a pair of Volti Vittoras with accompanying subs at a friends last Fall. Absolutely amazing!
@FOH3663
@FOH3663 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right ... I too associate Volti and Greg with good sounding rooms and an approachable demeanor.
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
Steve , thank you for opening my eyes to this fantastic company. I shut your vid off when you said $7000. Greg reached out to me to come listen so I went to his website and quickly realized how wonderful these speakers are. I will go back and watch the whole vid again. Shame on me for having such a closed mind. The down side of researching these speakers is now I am no longer set on the La Scala's or Cornwall. Now, where do I get $45,000. ? Hmmm
@johnenglishIII
@johnenglishIII Жыл бұрын
This look like some DIY "Klipsch" projects I've seen around like the Cornscalas. Have you hears any succesful take on those? Just curious.
@joshuaschneck
@joshuaschneck Жыл бұрын
How about a comparison with the Klipsch Forte IVs? The Fortes are about the same size as the voltis with 12” bass driver.
@rickmathis8590
@rickmathis8590 Жыл бұрын
Ooooo, these look so cool, Steve! Would love to get a chance to listen to these. Thanks for another great one, Steve!
@The.Original.Mr.X
@The.Original.Mr.X Жыл бұрын
I'm lucky enough to own a pair of Volti Vittora and an Elf. Forever seakers, absolutely fantastic.
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
What I'd like to say is that Fezz Silver Luna Prestige are not for Volti speakers, they don't have a published Damping Factor because it's too low for high sensitivity speakers, it can't cope with back emf.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
What I'd like to say is I hope you continue to Have Fun with your Volti speakers!
@bojancakarevic3530
@bojancakarevic3530 Жыл бұрын
How they compare to Pure Audio Project Duo 15? These two are my favorite speakers and the prices are similar. Thanks
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
I dare suggest that every audio component maker and distributer in the USA and Canada watch this YT channel. Probably some from Europe. How amazing is this channel ?
@VUmeters
@VUmeters Жыл бұрын
I've only heard Volti speakers at shows, but I've always been impressed by them. I'm glad that they got a proper review.
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
The Volti speakers in Steve's review are not 'Horn Speakers' like high efficiency Lowther Voigt. Volti are basically disco speakers with the need for a disco type amplifier capable of handling a large back emf. What is a back emf? It's like a microphone sending a small voltage back the wires on its made by a high sensitivity speaker. The back emf would ruin sound unless the amplifier had a high Damping Factor. Fezz Siver Luna valves and tubes are no use for Volti. PS Audio knows that high sensitivity does not save a low power amplifier.
@westernartifact580
@westernartifact580 Жыл бұрын
Go away
@MegicMan
@MegicMan Жыл бұрын
​@@keplermission Have you actually listened to Volti speakers?
@dwoodbury65
@dwoodbury65 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Steve, for the great review. I missed these at AXPONA, unfortunately. The website is really great, especially the “Where to Hear” page that gets into a comparison between the Razz and Klipsch Forte.
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 Жыл бұрын
Never heard Volti Speakers,but I heard of their upgrades to Klipsch Belles,which I own.( Stock). But,going to create some interesting stuff. I still have 1960 Electrovoice Marquis,JBL L 53 Libras,with the very rare LE 14C Dual Concentric 14" drivers. two pairs of Klipsch Heresy,JBL 632A club speakers that never saw the outside.
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy Steve's choices of products to review........... 🔈🔉🔊
@jchborg90277
@jchborg90277 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear a Luxman Class A integrated driving the Razz.
@rtbnyc
@rtbnyc Жыл бұрын
Great review. What, if anything, do your Duet 15s do better than the Razz, and vice versa? For example, would you favor the Razz over the Duet 15s if the music had a horn section?
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
The Volti Razz is what we call a horn hybrid and it has a couple of horn mid and treble units grafted onto a rectangular ported disco woofer speaker. Volti Razz is not a horn-loaded design and it suffers the same problems as a box speaker. It's a domestic disco speaker and it needs a high Damping Factor amplifier. The Duet 15s are Open Baffle and have slightly lower sensitivity giving many cheaper amplifiers more scope to drive them. What is High Damping Factor? Well ... anything from 200 - 2000.
@rtbnyc
@rtbnyc Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I went from the Forte IIIs to the Duet 15s and prefer the no box sound, but had not considered damping factor as another reason I prefer the Duet 15s (if Fortes are disco too). I do occasionally miss the Fortes for brass heavy music, but that may just be my ears, system or room. Which is why I always hope Steve will include his reference Duet 15s in his reviews, but I imagine he has a lot on his plate.
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
@@rtbnyc You know ... no mention of the driving amplifier, just went from Klipsch Forte III to Duet 15s and uh ... left the amplifier gathering dust. Same old crummy inputs with a bad connection and faulty plugs and sockets. Ancient, worn out sources with flat components, change the speaker. How about that? New speakers need run-in - don't sell your old speakers!
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 Жыл бұрын
@@keplermission You know I actually agree with most of the points you're making. BUT you do it in such a nasty, condescending, pissed off way. I expect your one of those that only pull this shit online because if you did this in the real world, somebody would have put some manners on you by now (and yes, I mean in a physical way) maybe STOP BEING A JERK eh ?
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles Жыл бұрын
These were some of my favorite at Axpona. 🥰🥰🥰
@superdougie10
@superdougie10 Жыл бұрын
I have followed Volti for about 3-4 years now.......and have always wanted to experience and hear this company's speakers.
@willsullivan3
@willsullivan3 Жыл бұрын
Steve--how cool! I saw an album by the Del Fuegos behind the speakers. That's rare & cool. What a little-known but great band! From Pittsburgh, I believe. I, too, have some of their vinyl from decades ago (and a CD rip)...generally, decently recorded, straight-ahead rock & roll. Maybe you used them as a demo, so, lemme get back to your review!
@callmebigpapa
@callmebigpapa Ай бұрын
In addition to lower distortion of horns what draws me to them is they sound so dynamic....the music really pops. I have a video titled "Horn Speaker Comparison JBL 2360, Altec 511b 811b, EV Electro Voice SM120a HP640, Yamaha S4115H" if you want to see the difference between how different horns sound.
@kloss213
@kloss213 Жыл бұрын
Walnut oil and shellac.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
Minwax makes a nice product that is a stain and poly in one.
@kloss213
@kloss213 Жыл бұрын
@@voltiaudio Oil shellac looks better is easy to repair and sounds better than poly. Maybe try it.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
@@kloss213 oh yes, it sounds better, I didn't think of that.
@GentielioGaming
@GentielioGaming Жыл бұрын
I was intrested in these speakers but i read that this brand of speakers measure really bad. This particular model i don't know. But then again, some speakers that measure well sound bad and some sound good.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
When I measure my speakers they measure perfectly fine, just the way I want them to measure. In fact, I don't think they would sound as good to my ears if they measured any differently.
@andypomeroy7447
@andypomeroy7447 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your opinion on the Cornwall IV comparison, as this will most likely be my next upgrade. But, the Volti look sweet.
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
I am leaning toward the Cornwall also. Unless the audio store will deliver and set up a pair of La Scalas. I am 3 hours away so I doubt they will.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
A real upgrade would be Volti Audio Rival speakers.
@MegicMan
@MegicMan Жыл бұрын
Volti offers delivery and setup
@daveyurkovich9459
@daveyurkovich9459 Жыл бұрын
Good show Steve. I wonder how did these compare to your Pure Audio Projects? Thank you.
@richardshwe
@richardshwe Жыл бұрын
From someone in the UK,if i had a Hi Fi store,i would definitely stock them.❤
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
But you know in the UK nobody listens to horns. They used to use Tannoy but they did sound nasal as Steve says was a 1980s thing and had a lot of matching issues. Tannoy ... who uses them?
@martinscase3904
@martinscase3904 Жыл бұрын
​@@keplermissionI had a pair of Lowther folded horns for a short time. Extraordinary clarity but very bass light for a big cabinet. UK rooms are, I guess, smaller than stateside.
@markboyle9941
@markboyle9941 Жыл бұрын
​@@keplermissionLots of people use Tannoys! I live in the UK and I have a pair of monitor gold Tannoy Lancaster speakers and they sound fantastic. Not quite as nice as my ESL-57's, but really nice.
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
@@martinscase3904 No ... Lowther aren't bass light, you know you were using the wrong amplifier, probably a Solid State or tube meant for medium sensitivity speakers. You know Steve is trying to make things easy for buyers, Hi-Fi was never easy, it was always you know, the rich and the intelligent people, not Len Lesser from the Bronx.
@erniejade
@erniejade Жыл бұрын
I heard them a few times at Axpona. They usually had a good sounding room.
@johnvincent4048
@johnvincent4048 Жыл бұрын
Find a good used pair of Forte ii. Send the crossovers to Crites for a rebuild. Change the tweeters to Crites Titanium. Add dynamat xtreme sound deadening material to the midrange, tweeters and along the inside cabinet sides. Those modifications work so well a 3/4 watt 1626 darling tube amplifier will blow you away with full sound. And you'll save about $4,500.
@timharbert7145
@timharbert7145 Жыл бұрын
The unfinished option is such a cool idea. Added these to the must listen to list accumulating in my head.
@timothyfreeseha4056
@timothyfreeseha4056 Жыл бұрын
You make a good point for consumers . I really wanted to support a local company which I believe and still believe is a great company. I wasn't even that hung up on what is the best and greatest thing. They are just what the audio market needs and arrived just in time. However- the product I chose was back ordered and had an ETA of a couple of months. But- alas, by the time I bowed out it was more like 8 months. In all fairness, there were serious supply issues going on at the time. It wasn't their fault and I felt about that. But you can't be crazy and impulsive if you have time to think! They are still my heros.
@philcallighan6322
@philcallighan6322 Жыл бұрын
I started out with Vandersteen 2c speakers in the late 1980s, currently have Mirage bi-polar speakers, but never lived with a horn speaker. Jazz and Classical music is my focus. So do you think the new Vandersteen 2ce Signature III would be a better choice than the Volti Razz?
@MrRourk
@MrRourk Жыл бұрын
From their web page - The Razz can be placed against a wall - that is a big feature in today's market.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
It's room dependent as with any speaker. But they are front-ported, which makes placing near walls a lot easier than rear port or rear passive radiator.
@anukrw
@anukrw Жыл бұрын
I know it’s a different price point but how would this compare with the fleetwood sound company speakers by OMA.. purely from a sound standpoint.. thanks and wonderful review as always Steve
@jvsyoutube3298
@jvsyoutube3298 Жыл бұрын
im not a hifi-freaq haha, buuut, i got my first horn speaker element a couple of weaks ago, and now i got two biiig horns with "nice drivers" for it, and damn, the dynamic sound of the horns is, well, im astonished. Didnt think you could get "good sound" out of horns, just LOOTS of sound out of a horn, my mind is nowdays turned, i want more!
@tomsherwood4650
@tomsherwood4650 Жыл бұрын
That Razz in yellow wood looks like the first large speakers I built as a teen. Using Radio Shack woofers, horn mids and tweets and the port in the front tall design. Strangely similar. However my version sounded like CRP.
@igorkrajnc5915
@igorkrajnc5915 Жыл бұрын
Well, Volti prefers Triode Wire Labs cables.
@LelandPratt-nw9ix
@LelandPratt-nw9ix 3 ай бұрын
Went to iTunes music and downloaded some of those Van Morrison’s. Love the afford that Razz but Van is really cooking, 45 songs for only twenty bucks. Thanks Steve.
@mstanley1178
@mstanley1178 Жыл бұрын
A general question for comparison sake, and I apologize but I have not yet "Googled" this question hah! Anyway, how do these speakers compare to similarly (or maybe bargain?) priced JBL compression driver/horn speakers? For instance, I have the JBL Studio 530's for near-ish field listening, and JBL 590's for 2.2 channel music / HT-light listening. The studio 5 series have this magic to them where the sound is effortless, clear but not fatiguing, balanced, good sound stage, impactful but not overwhelming bass, almost flat FR, and provide effortless detail without seemingly coloring the source material too much. Not that I'm looking to replace my current setup, but I do have a certain fondness for compression driver/horn speakers. There is something about them that provides a certain detail, clarity, and effortlessness that is not present in other driver types to my ears. All that said, how do the Volti Audio speakers compare?
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
It's not an easy question to answer. There will be some characteristics that are similar and there will be some differences. Best thing to do is listen. You're welcome to come to my demo room in Baxter, TN.
@naturalverities
@naturalverities Жыл бұрын
My EV HR9040 midrange horns from the mid '70s sound fantastic to this day. With a mouth size of 38" x 18" they launch music into the room with amazing ease, energy and texture. Too big for most home listening rooms, however. They don't call them white whales for nothing!
@ronchambers3713
@ronchambers3713 Жыл бұрын
The problem for me , living north of your border, is hearing these and many other audio options, sure we get lots of British options and even French ones but the vast array available to you of native brands is often frustrating for me, would love to hear these but high end American options are just not available here. And I’m only on the other side of Lake Ontario
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Volti sells direct, and of course you can hear them at audio shows!
@johnlittletree875
@johnlittletree875 4 ай бұрын
What makes you think that 4 ohms is hard to drive? It might not be a good fit for most tube amplifiers sure but any modern solid state amp that is not junk should be able to easily drive a 4 ohm or even 2 ohm load. Going from 8 ohm to 4 ohm you pick up 3db. Your amp makes more power output with the same power input into a 4 ohm load than an 8 ohm load so long as the amp is rated for it. People where making 4 ohm speakers and amps that could easily drive a 4 ohm load in the 1970's. Car audio long ago settled this debate. I will be 51 years old next month and I have never had a problem driving a 4 ohm speaker. Any modern amplifier costing $300 or more should be able to easily and musicaly drive a 4 ohm load. I would feel very foolish and cheated if I had modern hi-end amplifiers that could not do what $200-$500 amps from the 1970's to the 1990's can do easily. I do understand such limitations on especialy low power tube amps but I dare say 99% pf people watching youtube have a solid state amp as their primary amp and tube amps are just for fun and nostalga. If they have particulary powerful tube amps this is again not an issue.
@Audiorevue
@Audiorevue Жыл бұрын
First horn?, I mean at this price it wouldn't be my first horn. Although I don't mean that in a facetious manner, more just slightly cheeky. Granted I've heard some high-end horns such as Cessaro and in my opinion nothing beats the sound of a horn speaker, and I'm sure these are every bit as nice as you say
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
Volti Audio horn speakers are not usually someone's first. They are often their last though.
@Audiorevue
@Audiorevue Жыл бұрын
@@voltiaudioThat's most certainly a great way to look at it. I've never had the opportunity to hear your guys's speakers but I'm sure that there is nice as Steve and everyone else says they are. You know maybe you guys could send me a free pair and I'll check them out
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review Steve.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed commenting here, as I've had time to do so. Maybe a few too many, I hope you all don't mind.
@2023C8HTC
@2023C8HTC Жыл бұрын
I would like you to review the Legacy Focus SE "BOX" speakers.
@SubTroppo
@SubTroppo Жыл бұрын
Videos of Steve dancing with speaker; I'd watch that.
@gojdartamas34
@gojdartamas34 Жыл бұрын
Dear Steve , Belive me I know what is good horn speaker. I use to have a pair a JBL4429, no I have Jbl M2 Refernce mastering monitors!😁👆
@michaelvaladez6570
@michaelvaladez6570 Жыл бұрын
Ive heard about Volti audio a couple years ago and i would like to hear them.They sound very excitingly because they rival Klipsh speakers..and thats saying alot.I envy your job..yes envious ! Bring it on.
@UnitedStatesofAnalog
@UnitedStatesofAnalog Жыл бұрын
Super great review, Steve! I love big speakers and big speaker sound! My Forte IV's never disappoint! Would love to hear the Volta's someday!
@johnvincent4048
@johnvincent4048 Жыл бұрын
What kind of amplification are you using with your Forte IVs?
@UnitedStatesofAnalog
@UnitedStatesofAnalog Жыл бұрын
@@johnvincent4048 my favorite amp on that rig is my Technics SU-G700. I also have a McIntosh MA252 up there.
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles Жыл бұрын
Nice choice for review Steve!! Watching now. Excited. 🎉🎉
@KenHurstMusic
@KenHurstMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank You! For pointing out the lower distortion of horn speakers! I rarely hear anyone mention this! Usually it's all about efficiency and ability to play loud. This is exactly what I like about Klipsch (Heritage series - newer two way designs not so much)! I live only about 85 miles from Volti. Wonder if they have a showroom there? I'd love to visit them.
@trenacousins984
@trenacousins984 Жыл бұрын
Yes they have a showroom right at Volti!
@MegicMan
@MegicMan Жыл бұрын
Yes they do have a showroom. It is actually in Greg's home. I am an employee there and I assemble the crossovers. The phone number on the website goes directly to his cell phone. Not only will you get to demo the speakers, you will also get to tour the manufacturing facility.
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
Hey Ken, you know ... horns don't have lower distortion that's why ... you rarely hear anybody say it. There are huge round throat found in California -Edgarhorns that are low distortion but we don't hear distortion, it's inaudible, yeah I'll give you that again DISTORTION IS INAUDIBLE and rectangular horns are very distorted but very nice, I've Realistic Optimus X-100 most of my life. Klipsch La Scala (the Heritage Series) they used to be very cheap, they were CHEAP ... THEY WERE CHEAP but not anymore. No you need to look at Vitavox unless you're you know, a low earner living in a smaller place. Klipsch as a brand it has a ring to it like Ford, it would get you out of a hole but you know Klipsch and Volti are bad news.
@john26262
@john26262 Жыл бұрын
Steve, I'm sure you will reach 250,000 subs very soon, you deserve it.
@frankgeeraerts6243
@frankgeeraerts6243 Жыл бұрын
Border patrol .....................a yes!
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
Best amplifiers I've heard.
@ML-rm3vk
@ML-rm3vk Жыл бұрын
Wow old school real wood in the box it looks great.
@ThomasW.Insall
@ThomasW.Insall 6 ай бұрын
Forte copy cat. Their HF drivers are very ragged in frequency response. T he sound can be pretty severe and the bass distortion is pretty high compared the acoustic suspension speakers.
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they sound great but they do look quite crude for $7,000.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
The ones Steve reviewed were $5,500. The pretty ones with veneer are $7,500.
@johnmcdevitt9797
@johnmcdevitt9797 Жыл бұрын
Yes Steve that's what I'm talking about that Volti-Razz looks the business inside and out!
@UncleDonut66
@UncleDonut66 Жыл бұрын
The Del Fuegos? Awesome! As a Bostonian, I wholeheartedly approve.
@2023C8HTC
@2023C8HTC Жыл бұрын
Steve,I see you are stealing my bedspreads to make your shirts
@geol7408
@geol7408 Жыл бұрын
Careful, his wife makes his shirts... and he likes them. 😅
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
I like most of his shirts. Some are superb. I have actually said to myself : I wish I could get a shirt like that. This is not one of them. I did not know his wife made them.
@TM-fx2pi
@TM-fx2pi Жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you.
@MrBazsi888
@MrBazsi888 Жыл бұрын
A well designed horn speaker utilize an acustically neutral horn on top. That means that if you scream through it, it will sound louder but your voice essentially will sound the same. Problem with Volti is that its hard to get in Europe.
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 Жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with Joseph Crowe Audio channel here on YT ? He designs some nice horns, goes in depth talking about them, shows test results etc, has affordable designs and high end, even sells plans with cross over designs for DIY ers, very knowledgeable fellah all round.
@dariuszsalamon9441
@dariuszsalamon9441 Жыл бұрын
they are solid and heavy shipping would be expensive
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
We ship overseas all the time. Razz are about $1,400.
@thomascollins7932
@thomascollins7932 27 күн бұрын
Love mine too. Very hard to find faults.
@youtube改名也太難了吧
@youtube改名也太難了吧 Жыл бұрын
What makes it stands out from JBL's speaker? Lots of JBL's speaker are also horn speaker right?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Of course, JBL makes great horn speakers. Getting them in for review is another story
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
I really dig a lot of the JBL horn speakers. Different strokes
@JJ-no2ob
@JJ-no2ob Жыл бұрын
Why do they elect to use border patrol equipment for their shows? Do you have any experience with that brand? Is this a future review on your channel? Asking for a friend!😅
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
BorderPatrol Audio, Triode Wire Labs, and Volti Audio team together at shows because we all like the same kind of live, dynamic sound, and our gear has great synergy.
@craigenputtock
@craigenputtock Жыл бұрын
Nice crossover, nice speaker.
@kaybhee6
@kaybhee6 8 ай бұрын
so what did volti razz ,, say,, to your question
@markmiddaugh9359
@markmiddaugh9359 Жыл бұрын
Horns for me!
@jm_1214
@jm_1214 3 ай бұрын
They'll sound better without veneer
@lsaideOK
@lsaideOK Жыл бұрын
Wow! An audiophiliac viewer system that is not obscure and is affordable! Something mass produced and available? I no longer need to search for something nobody else has ever heard of before.
@yantrussart6584
@yantrussart6584 Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, the Pathos amp is about 3.2k so depends on what you mean by affordable.
@lsaideOK
@lsaideOK Жыл бұрын
@@yantrussart6584 I was looking at the turntable and the streamer and the speakers and the dac. There was a list of three or four things that most anybody could get or at least find.
@wendybeans1016
@wendybeans1016 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but for 7k us.........they ought to look nice. They look like an ugly diy attempt with cheap amazon parts.
@MegicMan
@MegicMan Жыл бұрын
7k is the cost for the complete pair including veneer and cloth grills. This review is for unfinished speakers without grills. And as for Amazon parts, you sound like you have inside information or just speculating and defending how much you spent on the brand that tricked you
@arthurott4561
@arthurott4561 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen these speakers with my own eyes but based on your video they look very DIY and way overpriced for what you're getting. They look like someone trying to build their own Klipsch speakers in their garage. BTW, I'm not a big fan of horn speakers. I've owned about 8 different Klipsch speakers over the years, from the KG4 to the LaScala and many in between and I couldn't live with them long term.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I'm impressed that you owned eight pairs of speakers but you didn't like! After seven pairs, you thought maybe the eighth one would be better?
@arthurott4561
@arthurott4561 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Well, I liked them all.....for a while and guys like you would convince me to give them another shot. But after a year or so I found that I just couldn't listen to them for more than an hour without getting ear fatigue. I have a slight case of Tinnitus and I find horn speakers cause me ear problems and begin to sound harsh after an hour or so.
@OMDF01
@OMDF01 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurott4561🤡
@keplermission
@keplermission Жыл бұрын
@@arthurott4561 You know that's one of the problems with old Tannoy and it's caused by bad sources, if you'd changed your input cable or controller amplifier, don't worry about the speakers so much. Your speaker cable matters, I always bought Radio Shack but found some places had good wire from a trade supplier. The La Scala Klipsch were BARGAIN speakers, they were cheap but they suited people the Audio Research 75 series. Tubes soften the harshness but they're very difficult to partner up and you know many tube owners just want looks, never even power them up.
@arthurott4561
@arthurott4561 Жыл бұрын
@@keplermission I've also owned the Klipsch Forte, Cornwall, & Epic CF-1 & CF-4 speakers and had the same experience with all of them, the Epic CF series less than the others. I'm using a Aqua LinQ & Formula DAC as a source and Clarus Crimson cables so so I don't think my source or cables are the issue. I've also had a variety of amps, tube & solid state (PrimaLuna Monoblocks, Octave Audio V 80 SE integrated, BAT VK55SE & PASS Labs X350.5) and it was always the same, lesser so with the tube amps, but always fatiguing and "harsh" to my ears. Dynamic as hell but still not something I could enjoy or live with long term. All speakers are compromised in one way or another. In addition to the Klipsch speakers I've owned a multitude of speakers over the years, Acoustat, Magnepan, Urie, MartinLogan, DCM, B&W, NTH, Paradigm, Boston Acoustics, Eminent Technology, Spatial Audio Labs, JBL, Gallo Acoustics, EgglestonWorks and others, and I'd rank the Klipsch speakers in the lower third in overall performance and SQ.
@johndavidson5075
@johndavidson5075 Жыл бұрын
Same price as Cornwalls. One would have to be completely insane to buy the Razz over the Cornwall.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Razz build quality is way better than Cornwalls.
@ericlubow4354
@ericlubow4354 Жыл бұрын
Who cares if the Cornwalls sound better?
@countdebleauchamp
@countdebleauchamp Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac I don't have any firsthand experience, but when I've seen Klipsch's disassembled in various KZbin videos, I've not been impressed with the build quality, until you get up to the La Scalas and Klipschorns.
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
There are no $20 chinese drivers used in Volti speakers.
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac No question. Klipsch are not even close.
@Campbell1.
@Campbell1. Жыл бұрын
Why cant we ever hear anything on your channel Steve (equipment paying music ), its just rambling ;)
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Copyright issues, sorry, you can't properly "hear" a stereo recording picked up by microphones in a room. When I listen to other people's recordings they always sound awful.
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac same hear. There are some "lossless" music channels that sound ok through a good sound bar.
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Steve, I would love to hear your opinion about the effect of YT copyright on the music industry. Personally, I think the music industry is turning a blind eye to the unintended long term results on the music industry itself
@clasvirhodes4969
@clasvirhodes4969 Жыл бұрын
Rick Beato has some excellent vids explaining this whole YT music copyright foolishness. He even testified before a congressional panel about it.
@Campbell1.
@Campbell1. Жыл бұрын
@@clasvirhodes4969 I follow Rick's channel. Playing classical music over 80 yrs old however has no copyright, what Im saying is perhaps Steve could play classical music, even percussion ( hard to copyright )
@frankgeeraerts6243
@frankgeeraerts6243 Жыл бұрын
A rave review for people loving music Steve ! This is within the budget for more people ..........and allows listening with magical lower powerd amplifiers ( the best amplifiers are lower power ! ) Pity I live in Europe .................border taxes and income taxes are as high as 40%+ on goods imported from outside the the tyranical EU................ Thanks !
@simonjones8111
@simonjones8111 9 ай бұрын
First heard horn speakers in 1973 at a friend’s house. His dad had a Leak amp, Garrod 301/SME3009 arm with huge Lowther horn speakers. Amazing sound, very unique.
@keatonjones6115
@keatonjones6115 10 ай бұрын
havent heard many other horn speakers other than professional like function one, but a guy called patrick bateman has a bunch of open source 3d printable synergy horns and holy crap, takes a while to get used to horn loading but its actually incredible, would be awesome for some one with the MEH or Syntrip DIY designs available to send some in to you im sure synergy horn, especially being able to be printed will be the future of horns other wise quite complex to make, 3 way real point source in 1 horn but with the advantage of time alignment by depth/distance
@travisgeorge1285
@travisgeorge1285 Жыл бұрын
A $2000 thousand dollar finish? Something doesn’t feel right about nearly a third of the price going towards that.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Well, that's what so cool about offering an unfinished option!
@voltiaudio
@voltiaudio Жыл бұрын
Very high quality veneer installation, lacquer finishes, painting for the fronts/backs, and grills. Easily two grand. Would be double that if these speakers were sold through a dealer network.
@BlaineShillington
@BlaineShillington 9 ай бұрын
These Voltis look a lot like a design I came up with and built four years ago to make my own version of a klipsch Cornwall. I think they must have has spies in my garage. I have them in my living room now.
@warrenbailey1473
@warrenbailey1473 Жыл бұрын
I love those diffusers
@MrBazsi888
@MrBazsi888 Жыл бұрын
a really good speaker wont give a shit on a bad room acoustic... these are facts. lots of manufacturer makes excuses because of the room. how pathetic.
@rx4unyc
@rx4unyc Жыл бұрын
Love my fortes
@terryhumphries1
@terryhumphries1 9 ай бұрын
Good to hear your discussion but why don’t you play some music on them to help give a better appreciation
@faludabutt8253
@faludabutt8253 Жыл бұрын
Why another overpriced klipsch?
@badgerdms
@badgerdms Жыл бұрын
They are much better than the Klipsch, and I've directly compared.
@ML-rm3vk
@ML-rm3vk Жыл бұрын
Great show Steve cheers
@jm_1214
@jm_1214 3 ай бұрын
Steve is 100 percent correct. I got an old pair of Forte 1s and I never went back.
@desking8683
@desking8683 Жыл бұрын
Mask over the important bits and turn the plain plywood into an art project for the grand kids. 😅
@NickP333
@NickP333 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful speakers and obviously very well designed. 1” birch wood ply…hell yeah! Checks off a lot of my boxes. Wouldn’t mind a bit higher impedance though. If a speaker were to replace my Tektons, I could see it be these. Thanks, Steve!
@fts81
@fts81 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I have those for 6 months, will never buy another pair of speakers again in my life. I love the Razz
@NickP333
@NickP333 Жыл бұрын
@@fts81 Felipe! Good to see ya out in the wilds of the interwebs. That’s awesome you own these. I’m sure it’s a match made in heaven with the Leben. I’d love to try these against my Tekton Pendragons. I love higher sensitivity speakers, and the impedance also has a large effect on how easily they’re driven, hopefully by a SE amp. Thanks Felipe!
@dariuszsalamon9441
@dariuszsalamon9441 Жыл бұрын
@@fts81that is what i said 2 years later I switched to maggies lol
@fts81
@fts81 Жыл бұрын
@@dariuszsalamon9441 lol
@fts81
@fts81 Жыл бұрын
@@NickP333 as Steve would say, this one has flesh to the bone lol
@robertwright5487
@robertwright5487 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking of removing the spikes on my Infinity's and mabe placing them on a lazy susan. Those are some beautiful speakers.
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