Voltz - The Bomb was almost not released

[@somerandomgamer8504]

"That's it Sjin, they're gonna kick you out of the Yogscast" - Sips in The Bomb

[@fatcat2015]

Oof

[@juniper3955]

Sips, unknowingly predicting the future.

[@fortafasha]

Narrator: And they did

[@rustedopus3414]

Oh fucking nO

[@Chaos_Vulpix]

Sips, blessed by Apollo with the gift of prophesy

[@EDoyl]

The way the crater somehow stopped exactly at shipping and receiving so that sips's stockroom was intact but contained an endless void. The way the chunk regeneration somehow stopped exactly at the door so that the door opened only to reveal a solid wall of stone. It was so absurd, you couldn't make it up.

[@sharcc2511]

And it was all totally unscripted too.

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

And then as it got reset it had sjin and sips in the shot half in the wall so you saw the wall of death encroach on them too It was insane how specific it was

[@pigpig252]

Shipping and Receiving just being a sign above an endless crater was so perfect yeah

[@wittyreviewer]

It was an amazing episode. I never knew a server could spontaneously detonate a red matter bomb in a mineshaft for no reason. Right under poor Sips' base too!

[@CboTheSecond]

The server just wanted to mine some copper

[@wittyreviewer]

@@CboTheSecond Yeah. And then some explosions went off near it for some reason and the problem fixed itself. Weird how these things happen right?

[@panner11]

It really was a landmark piece of content for the Yogscast. And I can't imagine they seriously considered not releasing the footage just because Duncan was salty. That would've been a tragedy. As content creators you always put content first before something like I guess video game progress?

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@panner11 the issues isn’t that Duncan was mad about the footage it’s that he was, justifiably, angry at the time that his, Lewis and Simons work was undone and the entire series put in jeopardy because the other team was too lazy to mine and cheated And footage where one person is very clearly infuriated by the others tends to make for quite awkward viewing

[@SmokeyEdits]

@@jonasquinn7977 Also worth noting that when it comes to things like this, they ARE actually friends, so if they had a real argument going (like in Space Engineers as Lewis refers to in this video) it would be awkward for them and likely put a strain on their friendship. Putting myself in Dunc's shoes for a moment, I'd be quite upset that my own emotions were set aside for internet luls on KZbin. Of course, there's always a lot of variables that play into a situation like this, so it really is a fine line between respecting the emotions and wishes of your friends and potentially putting your entire organization into jeopardy.

[@nintandrew13]

The Bomb was the first KZbin video to make me laugh until it hurt. It's still one of only three or four to do so and holds a special place in my busted gut.

[@Rokmonkey32]

Jaffa Facotry - Bin Chute

[@sticklarry]

i go back every year and rewatch that episode on new years eve. idk why, just has a special place in my mind.

[@artac4470]

that video made me laugh so hard i had to stop watching because i couldn't breathe. as someone who was maybe 2 dozen videos into youtube, that video still holds a special place in my heart

[@jasam01]

I end up watching it or the animated version at least once a year because, honestly, it puts a smile on my face. 'spose I better thank Duncan for getting over that enough for it to end up put online ^-^

[@johndthackray]

That explains why there was a big gap between that episode coming out and the previous ones. I remember thinking that the series must have just died off.

[@Sebbir]

I forgot how salty Duncan used to be. He has come so far

[@jonasquinn7977]

I mean to be fair he can’t really be blamed for being mad when the other team also st ruins the series he’s put a lot of work into

[@Cheesepuff8]

@@jonasquinn7977 He didn't stay mad though, maybe cause some of the people there were getting bored and were gonna leave the series soon anyway

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@Cheesepuff8 obviously he wasn't mad later once he realised how funny it was and that no damage had been done but he was completely justified being mad at the time

[@fiachnaodonnell7895]

Really? I honestly find him saltier than ever before...I remember him refusing to play CK3 live on stream because of...well nothing really, and all the Civ games he's really salty too

[@AFunkyHypnoCat]

the musket in terraria .. oh boy

[@GezbianGaming]

This popped up and within two seconds the chat was in emote mode lol

[@CptFUBAR]

The amount of in the live Twitch chat was astounding

[@jb76489]

Were they auto deleting certain comments? What were they?

[@thesteamycreamofdualjabbar6486]

no talking about [REDACTED EMPLOYEE] allowed

[@darkshadow2341]

i guess they are mentioning a former member, from the Voltz series

[@ribby9069]

It’s so childish. He’s a pos but he’s not fucking Voldemort Edit: ohhh I misread this completely. I thought you were talking about people referring to sjin as “redacted”

[@klop552]

Baffling that people don't understand that certain topics are inappropriate/could be hurtful.

[@lonereaper4287]

That episode holds a special place in my heart to this day, it was one of the funniest things I've watched with near infectious laughter and just two smoothbrains doing something so stupid. Man. Those were the days

[@1xoACEox1]

Its funny hearing this because even at the time you could hear the anger in Duncans voice.

[@janwilliameraker3349]

The bomb is my favorite yogscast episode ever!!! But I do also remember being salty about that being the end of that series

[@panner11]

They continued some other series on that server, but they didn't get much traction and were abandoned.

[@Sebbir]

@@panner11 yeah i remember Sips Co doing a series where they explored the long ass hole the red matter left behind

[@maggintons]

@@Sebbir Wormhole Barry

[@Dogtles]

It was an explosive finale to be fair

[@timeenoughatlast3368]

That was the end? I thought blowing up the evil base was the end.

[@TheRandomhobo123]

I remember space engineers, you could tell they were absolutely pissed

[@varflane]

You're working very hard Mr D.A. - it's much appreciated, thank you.

[@thegeko5476]

Okay, i'll watch the Voltz episode again

[@jonasquinn7977]

To be fair while the Red Matter Bomb is one of the funniest moments in Yogscast history I can completely understand Duncan being infuriated that after all the work he Lewis and Simon put in Sips and [REDACTED] ruined it and ended the series by cheating

[@darkelysium2187]

Cheating? that's the Yogcast guarantee!

[@pagatryx5451]

I mean, I don't see how that was a big problem. If it was the issues it could cause with lag, the chunks could just be restored/filled in with server commands. It's not like the bomb was detonated in anybody's base other than their own.

[@orangesilver8]

The series wasn't ended by it though

[@Cheesepuff8]

Well it was either they cheat and almost blow up the whole world getting rid of some people from the series and starting the end of the series Or the series died a slower more boring death cause some of the peopele on it got bored and eventually left, which I guess is why duncan didn't stay mad

[@JohnyFirst]

Do you mean Sjin?

[@AiOinc1]

I could not possibly imagine a world where that episode didn't air. It probably changed my life, I still quote it.

[@CynUnion-ji9uj]

I do find it funny how like the 2nd or 3rd SipsCo episode to come out after The Bomb was the SipsCo boys deciding to Follow the Path of the red matter bomb, even though the whole point was to launch it into unloaded chunks. Absolutely wild the extent someone will go to to produce high quality dirt

[@AstroTibs]

The Bomb was my introduction to Yogscast. That lead me to MoonQuest, which got me interested in Minecraft. Because of that, I got Minecraft and started building a space-exploration modpack. And I wanted to create mods for my pack, so I learned Java. My knowledge in Java helped get me my jobs out of college. And through my mods, I've built a Discord server and community, and have met tons of talented and interesting people. So... it would have been a shame if they didn't release it.

[@gibustheinfamous]

I wish Minecraft mods got as much mainstream attention as they did back in the heyday of the Yogscast

[@concept5631]

Agreed

[@MDG-mykys]

Now they get an average amount of attention, whenever minecraft gets super popular is usually vanilla.

[@davidmagee4468]

Voltz was the best modpack Me and my friends use to play on some voltz server on technic launcher and it was a blast. I remember we had this one base in the end we stopped playing on that server for like 2 years because it died for awhile came back on our base was still their.

[@matteo.v3758]

I think that voltz community modpack is the best one. It's a 1.7.10 version with all the mods of the older modpack + alot of cool mods

[@davidmagee4468]

@@matteo.v3758 I wish they still had the old forcefields with the green crystal loved setting up near a base and killing people as we invade and loot them then once we got what we wanted letting an antimatter off to destroy everything left.

[@JBG-AjaxzeMedia]

i play tekkit legends and voltz 1.12 on technic they are quite good

[@glencoconut]

anyone know what space engineers thing they're referring to? 👀

[@wizzzard999]

It was a sponsored series of videos from way back when. It was a 3v3 where they competed in building their own space fighter crafts in the game (its basically like lego, but more complex). Duncan, Simon and Hannah were building their stuff for hours, while Dunc was talking them through, step by step. The other team tho, Lewis, Sjin and Turps, just said "fuck it", found a MASSIVE derelict ship, slapped some thrusters on it, and then proceeded to fly to the other's base, and nuked all their progress away. Needless to say some ppl were pissed at the end XD

[@travishimebaugh8381]

It's basically the Anarchist's Cookbook of Minecraft

[@RDR911]

Wow, spiff sounds TOTALLY different when he isn’t putting on a fake voice

[@ze_rubenator]

His voice on his own channel is also heavily compressed and bass boosted.

[@NimonoSolenze]

@@ze_rubenator I've noticed in the TTT videos his voice sounds more like his own videos, too, so he's probably using some microphone software to get the effect!

[@HerculePyro]

What, he sounds almost exactly the same but slightly less overthetop brittish.

[@toastyjacks]

That's his actual voice, he just sits closer to the Microphone...

[@flameconvoy7424]

He’s deeper sounding on his channel since he’s recording scripted videos alone. In everything else he’s sitting back and is more relaxed

[@NetworKrakle]

Wait wait wait.... what happened in space engineers? Do we have a clip about that from forever ago? I wanna know now.

[@bennuter]

challenge to build the best ships and fight one team did it legit and the other went and found a massive pregenerated ship and went and blew the other teams stuff up. its called Space Engineers PVP Ep1: A Proper Burial also there is a vid from a livestream with Turps and Lewis talking about it

[@AimlessSavant]

In fairness to Duncan. Sjin and Sips fucked up so hard they had to have Ridgedog use god tools to unfuck the explosion.

[@DarkLordJabba]

wow I actually forgot that that's the origin of the red matter bomb in TTT

[@majorbruh9742]

To think that one the single most funny moments in Yogscast history was almost never punished is downright tragic

[@extreme_primus6884]

Is that....is that fucking spiff

[@IIxIxIv]

It's bit sad sjin (and ridge too) is so integral to the episode because it's hard to watch now 😔

[@OctaneIsNot6ft]

Only sad knowing both of them are POS’

[@lividkiwi_]

@Nathan Hill he impregnated a fan. They had a baby, but he broke up and moved away I think. It’s on a Reddit thread

[@OctaneIsNot6ft]

@Nathan Hill he also went psycho when they fired him and turned out to be egotistical and self centred. He did a livestream after they fired him and he was just being so arrogant

[@Betuor]

@@OctaneIsNot6ft I'm gonna be honest and say that sounds like a lot of the Yogs.

[@poprdog]

@@OctaneIsNot6ft isnt he on hermitcraft?

[@herdexx]

It hurts a lot that one of my favourite yogs integral to so many memories was secretly an awful person

[@ballinbalgruuf8198]

Yeah but the yogscast is still going. And there are more memories yet to be made. I honestly like the yogscast more since they started adding in new members.

[@gregorB92]

Sjin was by far the best yog

[@raistlin1357]

@@ballinbalgruuf8198 I agree, while nostalgia is great and all, the current Yogscast feels better than before

[@HerculePyro]

Same thing happened to me with Acheivement hunter, but in my opinion Yogs are doing so much better entertainment wise.

[@metamay]

You don't necessarily have to think of him as an awful person (especially if it hurts you to do so). Maybe more like a person who did something wrong. I won't defend what he did, but it also doesn't have to completely erase and overshadow everything else he ever did/does in his life.

[@MCOmegaX123]

I hate that two of the three least-liked and yet most-liked at the same time ex-Yogs (terminated with abundant cause, don't get me wrong) were the ones who generated the most laughs of the entire Voltz series, and one of them the second- or third-most laughs in the Tekkit/Jaffa Factory series...

[@neoleo593]

I'm pretty sure only 1 ex yog will ever be missed

[@carolusrex4469]

@@neoleo593 RIP Parv

[@ultimateninjaboi]

@@neoleo593 of course. Pre-insanity Lewis will always be missed.

[@Cheesepuff8]

Who was the second ex-yog who caused laughs in the volts series a part from Sjin, Ridgedog?

[@MCOmegaX123]

@@Cheesepuff8 Yeah, the origin of the overdramatic "This will eat the world" and the initial suggestion for fixing it that would have actually just caused more damage.

[@HadenGregory]

It's so weird that Duncan was so pissed off about the bomb going off in Voltz, when it really didn't set back the main group at all. It was annoying, yeah, but in the end the only players who lost everything were the ones who set it off, not Duncan.

[@Pheatan]

He was pissed off because it ended the series 12 episodes in. Im betting it was supposed to be as long as Jaffa cake factory.

[@HadenGregory]

@@Pheatan But why did that cause the series to end? I thought only Sips and Sjin were majorly affected, and they were already only occasional players.

[@jonasquinn7977]

It’s important to keep in mind that the bomb put massive strain on the server and there was genuine concern that it was going to crash the whole thing permanently if they didn’t stop it Of course with hindsight we know that didn’t happen and everything was fine in the end but from Duncan’s perspective at the time there was a very real chance that the other team had just destroyed the server after all the work he’d put into it

[@olive6942]

@@Pheatan it lasted quite a bit longer, like 26 or something episodes where they raided ridgedog's base

[@prosecutorwalton]

I think Sips had a bunch of episodes after the bomb living in a mineshaft miles away iirc@@olive6942

[@loopholesloopy]

have they ever gone over why they stopped doing shadow of israphel? I get its old news and I don't particularly care for them to continue it anymore, just curious if there were official reasons or they just decided they didnt want to make it anymore?

[@RAFMnBgaming]

I remember at the time people were mentioning stuff about the world corrupting, or footage corrupting and them not wanting to go back and record when their impressions weren't fresh, stuff like that. IIRC lewis has said it's something he's considered unfinished but never felt right to go back to after this long on stream, so that'd be why they haven't jumped back into it since.

[@fosterbennington6405]

From what I remember, the world it was on stopped working. Could be from mods that were used on it, or terrain generation changes between updates.

[@jonathanwells223]

Because “Israphel” got fired because of rumors and hearsay that he was pretty much forced to validate due to all the damage that it already caused him.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

@@jonathanwells223 - The series was laid to rest long before then. - Israphel had been played by multiple yogs throughout the series, the account user isn't that important. - Do not bring up person we do not speak about anymore. Discussions of said person are not productive. All that could be said has already been said and most people will have come to their own conclusions by now. All you're doing by bringing it up again is stirring shit.

[@niymeh342]

There were several reasons for why it became more difficult to continue, but Lewis talks about one big one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4XHnZl9aNNpfJo TL:DR: They wanted to get an animatic done to start episode 43, but the animator either stopped responding or they weren't happy with how it was going, leading to SoI being put on hold, things kept being postponed, there was a potential server crash that damaged the world (this one may not be true, but it gets repeated a lot), several people who were (at the time) integral to making SoI either left or were kicked out of the Yogs for various reasons, and suddenly it was like 8 years later and streaming isn't really about story-based series like SoI anymore.

[@Wheatbreadsauce]

I can understand Duncan’s saltiness, we’ve all had a project ruined by our shit head friends but that episode is such an all timer I’m glad it came out 😂😂😂

[@carnifexzer0]

Only the real ones remember Space Engineers

[@Mrbulletfire]

thats what the spiffing brit looks like!?

[@GrockleTD]

Can we get SE part 2 😔

[@I_THE_ME]

Almost as good as *SITE B!*

[@Tom_-]

I'm actually really impressed nobody made a Sjin statue by the Sips and Zips spaceman statues.

[@diufool]

Idk maybe its because the active community has respect for the Yogs so they follow the rules and etiquette lmao. Most of us are in their 20’s to 30’s and dont act very childish anymore

[@Betuor]

That would have been funny to me.

[@flibberfrogman5508]

@@Betuor Probably less funny to the members of staff and the fans he harassed.

[@Betuor]

@@flibberfrogman5508 Well I'm not them, am I?

[@PupkinConpaniet]

@@Betuor And because you're not them you're not capable of empathy? Dude...

[@omegaRST]

The space engineers episode they are talking about: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ-ado2Bfs6Kq7c, "Space Engineers PVP Ep4: Space Engineers Vs Space Pirates"

[@gyroscope915]

Why was dunan salty? It didn't even get close to his base or damage anything but sips and sjins base

[@Telco12]

Because it was up to duncan and richdogz to fix all the back end stuff that was breaking and as far as duncan was concerned it was about to be another map corruption ruining the whole series

[@gyroscope915]

@Telco12 but Lewis did more work then Duncan in the actual fixing situation

[@xDragonHybridx]

Is that Spiff?

[@Brian-tn4cd]

Yes

[@zapheil]

The Bomb is literally the only Yogscast episode I’ve watched, lol. I even showed it to my nephew the other day, and yet I still haven’t seen any of their other videos XD

[@MandrakeGuy]

wait so those kinds of things arent even scripted? i was not expecting to realise that there was the potential that some of the happenings in series like hole diggers were unscripted, god whyy

[@idot3331]

So it actually wasn't scripted at all? I was sure it must have been at least partly planned, it was just too perfect.

[@EhlistarsWrath]

*the hole*

[@CymruJedi]

Good old [redacted]

[@AgherDeadpan]

Gotta say the whole "REDACTED joke" when talking about past members of the Yogscast who had big controversies is actually kind of childish, they're not Voldemort ya know.

[@Facad3x]

I find it just annoying

[@lewisallan9963]

Because of the reasons some of them left its just a bit of a sensitive subject innit

[@gnericc_mistyck]

If anything it draws more attention by making the person out to be the mysterious figure that Yogscast didn't want you to know about. There are hundreds of videos out there with the name for all to see, so redacting the name in a comment changes nothing.

[@lewisallan9963]

@@gnericc_mistyck it's because some people can't have a serious conversation about it and realsie that he genuinely made people feel unsafe .

[@jonasquinn7977]

Personally speaking I mostly do it as a force of habit, when it was originally happening there were so many reddit threads about it that the Yogs eventually had to just enforce a ban on Sjin's name so that people could and would go to the megathread on the subject which made a lot of people that wanted to mention him in passing do the [REDACTED] thing partly as a joke but also to avoid trouble

[@supermatt87]

As soon as he started talking about "groups recording together" my brain started screaming "SPACE ENGINEERS!!!"

[@Facad3x]

I miss sjin

[@Blisterdude123]

He's back on YT. Hasn't apologised for what he did or anything, though.

[@Facad3x]

@@Blisterdude123 while I like the content he's currently doing, I prefer the funny collab stuff, sadly that'll never come back as much as I want it too

[@C02detected]

sips was right, he did get fired from the yogscast

[@lewisallan9963]

I can't watch anything with him in anymore, just feel uncomfortable

[@jaspermccarthy1436]

@@lewisallan9963 same even older episodes feel ruined for me

[@IceFireofVoid]

It’s actually so disappointing to find out about the actions of a certain someone because he made so many of the iconic classic funny yogscast moments possible. Here’s to hoping time can change people, but any eventual redemption is ultimately up to the victims to decide on. Not the viewers.

[@belgianstar]

I’ve read enough statements about him denying the facts or even worse: acting like it’s not a big deal. That man is a lost cause who needs psychological help.

[@IceFireofVoid]

@@belgianstar Oh most probably. It’s actually awful.

[@Joseph-uo3mx]

Please someone give me the tdlr

[@caelcdye9575]

Well if you are curious sjin actually started posting videos again recently after 2 years

[@Leptons_]

@@Joseph-uo3mx link got removed, so here's a copy pasted version of a reddit thread titled "Sjin Megathread" from u/venabl Hey everyone, consolidating all this into one post. The last big post discussing this linked to a tweet by a Yog and it unintentionally funneled a lot of hate directly into the mentions of said Yog. The OP of that thread deleted the thread themselves after being asked to do so by the Yogscast directly. The post was related to Sjin, who has made an unwelcome return to KZbin. Posts exclusively about former Yogs are banned, this post is an exception. Since we already allowed discussion to start, you can continue here. Lewis's comment in the previous thread, here: Just wanted to clarify and reinforce our stance (which has not changed in the last two years). Sjin took advantage of his position to emotionally manipulate and sexually harass members of our community and our friends. These actions are reprehensible and he is not welcome in our communities. I would ask folks to be respectful of this and remain sensitive to other Yogscast creators, many of whom will not want to discuss him or be reminded of his content. We’re always striving to make the Yogscast stronger and safer for everyone and I hope that you agree that this is a community we can feel proud to be a part of. Frequently Asked Questions: Q: Is Sjin innocent? Is Sjin back in the Yogscast? Is Sjin friends with any of the Yogscast again? Am I allowed to talk about him on this subreddit? A: No to all. Q: Why are there still Yogscast channels under his "Channels" tab? A: Because he hasn't changed it, on purpose or accidentally. Anyone (you as well) can put whatever channels they want in there. But I'd be surprised if it won't be fixed soon. Q: Is it a reupload? Why is he uploading? A: It's not a reupload - it's a new video, and only he knows why he's decided to try to come back to KZbin. Q: I have an opinion and I want to post it. A: That's not a question. Also, leave your thoughts in this thread, don't create a new one. It will be removed. We don't allow posts exclusively about former Yogscast members after they've left for more than a month. This is consistent with how we've handled departures since Strippin in 2015. Recap In case you missed or forgot what happened to Sjin, a summary: Lewis confirming Sjin was removed after an independent investigation into allegations of ongoing (5y+) grooming and sexual harassment: "It’s clear to me that Sjin has breached our code of conduct and after discussing this with him he has decided to take an extended break and will be leaving the Yogscast network." source Sjin confirming the allegations were true: "I’ve come to realise this behaviour might not be considered appropriate by everybody." source Bouphe giving her side about former members' behaviour towards her: "Aggressive flirting, trying to get me to send pics, sending pics, trying to get me to go places and do stuff, not taking NO for an answer, asking me to delete correspondence." source Gee giving her side about former members' behaviour towards her: "Lewis was unaware of the actions concerning Turps and Sjin when it came to specific members in the network such as myself and Bouphe, as I never said anything to Lewis. I don't hold Lewis responsible for something he never knew about. I never wanted Bouphe to feel alone in her struggle so I'm glad she was able to find the strength to say something, because it gave me that same strength to speak up and ultimately tell Lewis my experience." source There have been a lot of allegations (some public, some private). The ones included here are only by the Yogs. Just remember that an independent investigation has shown him as guilty enough for Lewis and all of the other Yogs to sever ties with their long-standing close (former) friend. Here's a thread by Tom: "Discovering truths about coworkers and especially Sjin who I had considered a close friend. (...) At the time and in the months that followed, because of the friendship that we had, I felt it was my duty to try to help him, for his safety and everyone else. I personally believed this was the moral thing to do despite being disgusted by his actions." source With Harry's opinion in the comments of the previous thread: "I do not support Sjin, Caff and Turps actions and with even more stories coming out this week I am again shocked and disgusted. I support Bouphe and Gee both publicly and privately, and everyone who has come forward. (...) I did not remain ‘friends’, I do not support his actions and I hope he changes. And I make no plan to ever see or talk to him again." source

[@kurojima]

Duncan was and still is the whiny little kid, who throws a tantrum when things not go his way

[@One87X]

I miss Sjin. Sjin and Turps. They both added so much to the channel that it was immediately noticeable when they were gone.

[@Betuor]

I do miss the old TIP channel. Though thinking back on it, Turps filming Lewis at a uriel might have been a clue...

[@JohnJohnson-sc7hn]

Sjin has started producing solo content again, if you're interested. Comments are heavily censored rho.

[@One87X]

@@JohnJohnson-sc7hn Thank you for the heads up. I'm happy to see Sjin back at it.

[@PopeMical]

@@JohnJohnson-sc7hn To add to the "heavily censored" it's also involves shadow bans on top of only allowing select comments through.

[@gregorB92]

Ah sjin...the best yogscast member ever.

[@JohnJohnson-sc7hn]

*cough* Boba *cough*

[@cheosxtothe]

@@JohnJohnson-sc7hn Boba is the worst yogscast member ever. They just casted a dime with no personality. The only place to watch video's like the old yogscast now are sjins new content.

[@JohnJohnson-sc7hn]

@@cheosxtothe Obvious troll

[@gregorB92]

@@JohnJohnson-sc7hn you must be new to the yogs. this people now are nothing compared to the ones that started all this

[@JohnJohnson-sc7hn]

@@gregorB92 I've been watching since they released Planetoids on the main channel. I was a big fan of both Turps and Sjin before they were let go (Caff can suck it tho). I would still rather have the new folks like Tom and Spiff than them, even setting aside their misconduct.

[@goldenlord52]

It really sucks that sjin had to turn out the way he did when he was such an integral part of yogscast history, especially when it comes to their long-running jokes like the red matter bomb. I can't imagine what it was like for lewis trying to talk about this and avoiding mentioning him at all.

[@electrobob992]

He was Israphel after all, the core character who made the initial series work. But hey we can at least say this... At least he was not Raedwulf.. Yeah that guy was way worse.

[@donb7519]

​@@electrobob992whose that? Also wasnt Caf even worse than sjin

[@tjparkour24]

@@donb7519 From what I gather, Raedwulf was not in the Yogscast but just another content creator that was accused of sex crimes, in that case (again from the limited research I've done) they were actually charged and arrested for attempting to create CSAM. As for Turps, Caff, and Sjin, they all were accused in the same period of sexual misconduct internally, and trying to abuse their position of power to hook up with fans. To my knowledge, none of these accusations resulted in criminal charges, and no hard evidence was released publicly, although some fairly damning DM chains were released by the accusers, I doubt any of it would be enough for criminal charges. In Sjin's case specifically as I recall, some of the accusers claimed to be under 18 when Sjin approached them, although this was never publicly proven to my knowledge. In reality we likely won't ever know which of the three was "worse", just that they all did some pretty shady shit when given the power to do so. Disclaimer: I am not a Lawyer, these words come from limited research and hearsay at the time, please do your own research before forming strong opinions.

[@olive6942]

@@donb7519 caff sexually harassed his fans and was fired for it, sijn resigned after some similar things, but it was later revealed that he sexually harassed other members of the yogscast

[@donb7519]

@@olive6942 caff was exposed for grooming underage fans while what sjin did was wrong no doubt at least everyone was of age

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It was boddypen