Volvo Penta Repair, EVC-C Helm Diagnostics 1

In this video I introduce how to find fault codes within a Volvo Penta EVC-C system and how to navigate to repair them with the service manual

[@sorenfleron]

Hi Ted First of all - thank you very much for all your great work on KZbin… your videos are really helpful… We just purchased a Bavaria 37 HT form 2009 with a pair of D6-330. We went on seatrial last Thursday and everything was just running smoothly. Went to pick it up and sail it home the day after, and here she would not start PT engine. We managed to wiggle cables and stuff and got no errors and started to get home. 5 days later we arrived at our harbor and had engine issue on PT every day. Had a VP mechanic on board with Vodia tool to check and it was clear that the data link cable between HCU and PCU was bad - he had a test cable with him and connecting that things worked. We took the one out that apparently was faulty and tested it… there were no errors at all, connected it back, auto calibrated and no problems. 3 hours later we wanted to start as wind had slowed down and same error again, wiggling cables, auto calibrating and managed to get on the move…. So now back safe in harbor I went to test what is going on… here is what I found: Swopped cabled from SB to PT PCU and also at the HCU to see if I could move the failure to the SB engine - no luck at all, still the same. Took the main power fromswitch engines, waited 3 mins and repowered… error still there: FMI 164 SID 253 FMI 9 And MID 164 PSID 218 FMI 9 These indicate error in comm betheen HCU and PCU. Did auto calibration and got: MID 164 SID 253 FMI9 And MID 164 PSID 99 FMI 12 Last one indicates that configuration is lost I then reseated the large connector on the PCU - that gave me a new set of errors: MID 164 PSID 99 FMI 14 And MID 164 PSID 99 FMI 12 These indicate that comm is good but config is lost… so I auto calibrated again and all errors were gone - I could start engine and had full control. I shot everything down and took the main switch again, waited 3 minutes and repowered - then the issue was back. I could suspect the PCU, but reseating the large connector on the PCU seems to do something, so wondering if there could be something else that makes the PCU fail on startup… When I got the first set of errors I notice that the tilt sensor showed 56, no light in neutral, engine would not start with error “Engine in gear unable to start”. Strangely we found (during 4 days of sailing) that one the error is gone everything works perfectly throughout the trip - but when we power off the error comes back. Again reseating seems to do something good… I also notice that the actuator is no moved when applying ignition when the error is there. Would you have any ideas of what to look for? Thanks for REALLY great video’s on KZbin, they are very much appreciated. Best regards Soren Fleron Denmark

[@Kenneth-t2l]

Hi Ted Great videos. Thanks so much Can you tell me what workshop manual you are using in your videos for the fault codes. I have a 2008 D4 Volvo diesel with an EVC - C, in my boat. Thanks

[@jeffwarren7852]

Hi Ted, You've helped me out in the past, so I'm hoping for a little more guidance. I have twin 2008 D6 435's with an EVC-C System. About a week or two ago, while running inside the marine, the RPMS started to "hunt" around 800 RPMS, one motor would start to drop to 780, 760, 740. The other was almost opposite. I took it back to idle, then increased them again to about the 800 mark and same thing happened. Once, I got it out of the marina and increased the rpms, it ran normal for the day. Then, on another day, it started doing it again. Very intermittent. Finally, I was out fishing and while on a drift, an alarm sounded for the port motor. no codes that I could see, but my port EVC displayed showed 175 RPMs, but the engine was idling fine. I had to shut it down and restart the engine. Everything went back to normal. I'm at a complete loss on what to check. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Is this a single station boat, or do you have another station to run it from to see if it occurs at that station as well. Sounds like a multilink harness issue between HCU's, due you state the rpms are moving opposite from one another. You could try an auto configuration and recalibrate the controls to see if that clears it up. Low voltage at idle rpm does quirky things to.

[@jeffwarren7852]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Thanks Ted, I do have a tower with an upper station. Next time it acts up, I'll run it from up top and see if that eliminates the issue. I'm pretty sure that my voltage is good, generally 13.6 at port and 14.1 at starboard. Have you heard of any issues with using AGM battery's? I just replaced all the batteries with new AGM's and was wondering if that would be an issue.

[@jeffwarren7852]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Thanks again for your help. I didn't think it could be a voltage issue, but I'm having second thoughts. Last weekend, the port engine wouldn't fire until I paralleled the batteries. Question: What voltage does the EVC display indicate? My Port battery shows 13.11 V, Port starter shows 13.11 V, Port EVC shows 12.9 V. The voltage drop seems excessive. Is the EVC voltage showing battery voltage, or EVC system voltage after the dc to dc converter? The Stbd side has a similar drop in voltage.

[@rossross8224]

love your videos, don't know if you do any online courses or anything , its just iam over in scotland , ive got 2 Volvo D4 learned a lot from your videos

[@diggs345lr]

Hi Ted, do you know if it's possible to fit the stop start control while retaining the key switches on a evc-c single helm with 2 x volvo penta d4 260s , I purchased the stop start panel without researching it fully thinking it would be a nice addition, but on initial inspection it seems it's one or the other without having a second helm station . I have asked on a few groups but had no answer .

[@edemantiques28]

Hello Ted, first of all I am about to get crazy. I have a major malfunction at my Engines d12D A-MP. The problem is at the EVC system. It does like crazy things I don't know even to explain 4 different types of observations. 1.motor starting looks that is running well and the panel at the flybridge does not tale control of the motor 2. Motor starts alarm and buzzer start after some second I try to read the alarm from the panel and the panel shows 1.1. And after the motor switch of alone. 3.motor starts rpm goes up alone alarm starts motor switch of alone. 4.keys turn to start motor starts all alone 5.turn keys at position 0 and the monitor display does not sut down. Al of this is in one engine, which is the left. Test that tried. Change the keylock with the other motor that does not do any of those Change the evc panel into an old one because the one at the main bridge it is new also change the evc from the fly to The main station Change the evc panel of the flybridge Unplug an plug again the evc box at motor Check the emergency stop FISE Please for your opinion and any help Thank you in advance

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

It sounds like a software issue either in the PCU or likely HCU. You could try swapping the HCU from the good side to the bad and see if the issues go away.

[@treyhardy3653]

Hi Ted I recently viewed this video and it was a big help. I was able to get the fault codes off of our 2011 Hunt Harrier. It was MID 187, PSID 14, and FMI 15. In your video you had a book that had all the codes. Is this available somewhere to purchase or download to get the information? Thanks.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

That code is from the PCU which states there is a mismatch of evc nodes. Has someone swapped PCU's or HCU's? I can provide more info if you email me at [e-mail]

[@tysona8421]

Great video! I currently have this system with dual engines and have this code: MID 164 - multilink system PSID 209 - data link FMI 9 - update rate is off My port side engine won’t start and the code I believe says the analog key isn’t communicating to the digital converter to start the engine. What could be what I need to replace? The control box? Could it be the wire harness? Could it be a bad ground? Would I want to auto calibrate or no? Please help

[@asennaydenov6461]

Hi Ted, very informative video thanks. I would appreciate your opinion regarding malfunctioning electronics on D1-30. Today I did installation on a brand new engine D1-30 on a friend boat. After the battery was connected I wanted to check the communication with the panel and SURPRISINGLY wired malfunction the start motor start running without touching the start button. The only one button I pressed was the power button ON/OFF. Now I can see on the screen is the Volvo Penta logo for 1-2 seconds and then the screen is OFF. All of the connections are correct : panel to panel and tachometer\screen to multilink. I have no idea what the failure is but doesn’t feel right!!! Tomorrow I’ll ask the dealer what the Volvo Penta support will recommend in this situation. I assume that the answer will be that I have done something wrong.... I can call king of a mistake that firstly I forgot to connect multilink to tachometer, but I think that could damage the MDI! The all evening I’m looking for information how can I solve this and very unfortunate I found a lot of comments that many EVC panel are failing and damaging the MDI. So wired.... It would be horrible experience to install a push button on a new engine.....

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

If you are a vp dealer you should be able to warrenty the mdi (which may be the cause). If you are not, then an authorized dealer needs to finish and inspect and fill out the the pdi for warrenty.

[@asennaydenov6461]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Thank you for the quick response, appreciate it!

[@brandondohrn8149]

Hi Ted. I’ve got a 04 440 cruisers with Volvo diesels. This has the EDC shifting single lever control. Port motor shifts smooth into drive and back to neural. Pull back a single step to reverse and still says neutral until I pull way back into the throttle zone then goes into reverse. How can I recalibrate this? Any help would be appreciated.

[@ve2plq]

Hi Ted . Can you help me on clearing evc c D3 130 the code . It seem to prevent me to go full idle after bleeding the system and now it doesn’t want to start it does turn ?

[@KrisDC2]

Hi Ted I have a 2019 with twin v8-430’s. My port engine is giving me a code MID: 250 PSID: 232 FMI: 5 OCC - - - STATUS ACTIVE

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

That is a SCU communication fault on the X2 Datalink bus

[@martynsmith289]

Hi Ted. 1) With this fault "MID 187 PSID 226 FMI 9" is it safe to operate the engine with the controls that work or will this cause further problems? and 2) Could this fault just be showing an historic fault and therefore if all stations currently work this fault can be ignored?

[@ericleandri9058]

Hi Ted, thanks for your video. I have twin D4 260 EVC 3 on a 2010 boat. I faced a default MID 164 PSID 81 FMI 4 which causes lever out of work and key button flashing on EVC (security mode). I have replaced the BOSCH potentiometer, made the auto-configuration and the calibration but default is still present. I tried to swap the left lever command on the right D4 and it works on the right D4. Therefore the control lever is ok. The Volvo tech tried to connect the VODIA on the EVC DIAG connector ON THE MOTOR and no default appears on VODIA. Any ideas or suggestions? Many thanks

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Fmi 4 is a low voltage fault code. So either a harness problem or faulty HCU. Try swapping the X7 harness from port hcu and lever to the starboard and starboard to port. If the problem swaps sides its a harness issue. part # 874676 If the problem stays the same then you need an HCU

[@ericleandri9058]

Thanks very much for the quick answer !. If it is an HCU and I buy one , do I need a Vodia to install the soft in ?

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

@ericleandri9058 yes dealer only

[@clgxcassiopee5157]

Hi Ted, I have a boat with twin engines Volvo Penta (2004) TAMD 75EDC (480cv) with only 360 hours. One of the engines cannot run due to no neutral position not detected (Green led off and default let on) when I replace / exchange ECUs the faulty engine runs. For sure one of ECUs is failed, are you in position to fix such failure and can you accept to do that. Thanks for your futur support. Regards. Claude from France

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Claude, Unfortunately, I have no way to fix an EDC ECU. Your best bet is to contact a volvo penta dealer.

[@rob1021]

Hi Ted, I really enjoy your videos! I have a boat with 3 2009 ips600 d6 435 drives (EVC-C). I recently had the autopilot replaced but for some reason the new autopilot does not have any sort of control over the boat. The autopilot control head properly tracks the "rudder angle" of the IPS drives when I turn the steering wheel. Garmin support confirmed that the autopilot is connected properly and they said that the boat might need a volvo data config. What do you think? I really appreciate your help!

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Sorry for the delay. There is a Volvo Penta NEMA 2000 adapter that integrates Garmin into the EVC platform. A Volvo Dealer can verify if that is properly installed and configured.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Yes, if you change any hardware within the EVC system you should do an Autoconfiguration. The autopilot needs to be plugged into the EVC NMEA 2000 interface unit as well.

[@peterhosking292]

Hi Ted, All the instruments in our boat dont show any information any more. The HUI EVC led light does not light up. is there any way i can check if the HUI EVC is not broken.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Not without a vodka tool sounds like you need to contact a dealer

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Auto correct!! VODIA tool

[@anderspetersen4204]

Hi Ted, I have a fault on my Volvo Penta D4 300. And I want to hear if you can help to locate the problem. The display says check multilink and it has this code MID 164 PSID 80 FMI 9. I have tried to find the groupe 30 electrical manual for the D4 engine, but whiteout luck. Hope you can help me.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

The code is for a speed depth temperature multi-sensor. It connects into the multi-link bus. If you do not have one try to auto config the system to make it ignore it. If you do have one then you need to check the harness connections to see if the problem is the bus or the sensor.

[@jamilton54]

Buenas tardes tenemos un problema con un penta p/n s101308/R1D no controla el trim y es nuevo el PCU

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Intente realizar una configuración automática, si eso no funciona, es probable que tenga un sensor de compensación fallado. Después de reemplazarlo, deberá realizar una configuración automática y restablecer sus límites de ajuste en la calibración de control.

[@jeffwarren7852]

Hi Ted, Again..... Great video I have twin 2008 D6 435's with EVC-C System. Upper helm, port side gave me a code MID 164 PSID 64 FMI 9 (Joystick Fault) But, I don't have a joystick. Thinking it could be the potentiometers, I went ahead and rebuilt the control unit. Plug everything in and the fault returns and will not let me calibrate the control. Plugged the port side into the starboard HCU and I can calibrate it fine. So, I know the cabling and control unit us good. Is this fault something that I would need cleared by a tech with a scanner? The HCU does have the green flickering light and I've auto-configured the system more times then I can count.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

That code (EVC C without a joystick) indicates the HCU has software issues. A software "reflash" might fix it or the HCU may be faulty. Either way you require a VP service tech with a VODIA tool.

[@jeffwarren7852]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Hi Ted, thanks for there quick response. I disconnected the data cable and reconfigured the lower helm. Funny, my voltage went from 13.8 to 14.1 while running after it was disconnected. I might just order a new HCU and be done with it. In your opinion, what makes these things go? Battery voltage seems to be what I have read. But, I have new batteries and all new wiring. Before I rewired the battery banks and installed all new batteries, I had both on the starboard side go. This will be my 3rd HCU in a year.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

@@jeffwarren7852 Yes voltage can be a concern, however internal temperature or severe vibration I believe is a likely cause for premature failure.

[@jeffwarren7852]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Thanks again Ted, nice to have someone explain these things. Hard to find any real information it seems!

[@jeffwarren7852]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Hi Ted, is there a Volvo Penta rep that I could contact for a qualified tech? Lot's of tech's in our area (San Diego), but few have any experience. Not sure if you would have any input but thought I would ask. I've been through three HCU's in a year and really need someone with some knowledge. Thanks!

[@aleksz8005]

Hi Ted, do you know where to find wiring diagram for the boat?

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

That always come a with the owners packet when the boat is initially sold. You may be able to get a copy from the boat manufacture if they are still in business.

[@kevinm4644]

Ted - Is it possible to upgrade EVC-C to EVC-E? I assume this would require updated components and SW, but is it possible? Thanks!

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Kevin, E is a totally different platform than C so in reality it is not an option. A "repower" to an E system would be an option.

[@kevinm4644]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 so you can’t just replace all of the components (PCU, HCU) etc. and wiring?

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

It is not the way the system is sold. Each individual EVC platform is assigned a Chassis ID #. This number is created from an each engines driveline serial #. So each Chassis ID# is specific and incompatible with any others. So you can not just buy the hardware and install it.

[@mariacarolinabarreto1620]

Hi! Is this video or a similar one available in Spanish?

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Unfortunatley no, sorry

[@fergieanderson766]

Hi Ted, My engine is a volvo D6 310hp and the screen on my dashboard digital screen has gone blank. on switching on the ignition everything boots up but the digital screen remains blank. Any suggestions Thanks

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

If the screen is totally blank - never flashes the Volvo Penta logo on battery power up then I would suspect either a power or ground issue on the Multi-link bus or the unit itself has failed internally.

[@fergieanderson766]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Hi Ted, screen lights up when starting engine then goes black!

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

I gather this is a 4" display like in my video- yes? I would unplug the harness from the unit and the HCU and inspect the harness - Test the harness for continuity. If all the wires have no resistance then plug the unit back in and try an auto-config. If you still have the same issue it's time to call in a VP dealer to test the HCU and try another display. @@fergieanderson766

[@fergieanderson766]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Hi Ted, Will do what you suggest. Thanks Fergie

[@fergieanderson766]

@@tedsmarinerepair8956 Hi Ted, I checked out all connections on the EVC and all came good except the display is now in Swedish?

[@donaldwatson554]

On our 2009 Tiara Sovran we Have an EVC code 1 Alarm on the Volvo 500 I PS engines. This fault occurred after we replaced the house batteries, If I clear the code everything operates normally , I get full power and all systems work . Do you think it would be safe to do an Auto Config to the system ?

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

I would only do an auto config if you have repaired a failed part or updated software. By the sound of what you did (replaced the batteries) it was likely a low voltage code. So I gather the problem does not or has not repeated since you cleared the code. Yes?

[@donaldwatson554]

Unfortunately it has repeated. It’s strange though because it only happens after the port engine is started and I’m just beginning to start the starboard engine is when I get the EVC code 1 alarm.

[@donaldwatson554]

The battery replacement may have just been coincidence, not sure but you bring up a good point.

[@donaldwatson554]

I was told that I could clear the code by turning the keys to the off position and then turning off the batteries for 3 min. Would this have cleared the fault codes ? Or do I need a special tool to clear the code .

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

@@donaldwatson554 With EVC the codes will auto clear if you fix the problem and shut the key off for 15 seconds (enough to allow all nodes to shut down. If the code comes back it is still an active/intermittent code.

[@ariis01263]

Salve io o un Volvo penta d2 40f la mia centralina egv va in allarme ,lo sostituita e sempre stesso problema ,si accende il motore la prima volta e poi non funziona più devo avviare e spegnere il motore manualmente .anche così una volta aviato la centralina resta sempre l'allarme ,mi può aiutare grazie buona giornata .

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

La unidad de control del motor probablemente sea la culpable. La última pieza # es 23231607

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Lo siento, pero no hablo español y la transacción en Google es mala. Supongo que tiene un D2 con una alarma constante, ¿puede explicar más?

[@alexsandror]

Hi, have you a e-mail to contact? I'm from Brasil, Marines. We have a problem of comunication bettwen PCU and HCU, but isnt wire problem, the HCU dont recognize the PCU number software.

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

Yes, [e-mail] Was the HCU or PCU swapped for another engine?

[@tedsmarinerepair8956]

EVC Version? A,B,C etc.

[@alexsandror]

Hi, I Will send you a e-mail, thank you Very much my friend.