Vom Tag guard

[@ArtoPekkanen]

The German long sword is very logical, yet easy to apply based on circumstance. The footwork is the key there to be able to pull of solid cuts.

[@atomu3d]

So it looks like the legs generally complete its motion half way through a swing.

[@romulus-quirinus]

Sumanai...

[@huytungnguyen119]

I too watch this video thanks to Siegfried

[@Seegras]

"Vom Tag" is a transcription error in the first place. Thalhoffer writes "Vom Tach", and if you know he's swabian, and thus speaks middle-high German (as opposed to middle low German in the north, which is where error is coming from, because in Prussia, even today, "Tag" is spoken as "Tach"), "Tach" in middle high German does not mean "Tag" (day) at all; no resemblance to it at all. It means "Dach", and that's "roof" in English. Which means it's translation is actually "from the roof". Also I personally think "Vom Tach" is basically an Oberhau (and not a guard), and the guard should probably be called Zornhut (or maybe your "High Vom Tag" is the Zornhut).

[@Judicial78]

How do you pronounce that? Or is it just like it sounds, "Tach"? Or is "Tog" the way most people say it correct?

[@000000AEA000000]

@@Judicial78 depends really. so many dialects and pretty anarchic ways to write german back then... and even if you write it a certain way, germans from another area would have said it differently back then. standardisation of high german is not that old and its also not important. The important thing is that he means something from atop.

[@000000AEA000000]

@@Judicial78 tach swabian pronounced would indeed be as you said, either "tach" or "toch/doch"

[@TheAshbringer06]

So in meyer translations I see this one refered as: Von Dach, not Vom Tach, con you clarify anything?

[@Crusignati]

Going merely by an etymological translation from one source is not enough to say without a doubt it was spelled and utilized a certain way. Considering that the first attribution of the Zeittel comes indirectly from Liechtenauer circa 1400, and that this is probably an extension of a common oral tradition that was later written down, we should be careful with unequivocal arguments. I would suggest in defense of my dislike of your post the idea that those who learned from masters and treatises were lettered, learned individuals of means and/or collegiate students/graduates to whom a broader, perhaps esoteric etymological understanding might have been known. I would refer you to the following intriguing article which lays some points for the many spellings of Vom Tag. hroarr.com/article/king-and-fool-the-vier-leger-of-liechtenauers-tradition-and-their-relationship-with-common-medieval-german-archetypes/

[@JoeYT23]

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[@mohammadzakirhusaain]

This is not vom tag, it's called right guards of the lady and it's a partial of zornhut or high guards of the lady (which is ur upcoming high vom tag) .Vom tag English translation is roof gurds. Meaning holding your sword raised over your head and chest sliding little to your dominant side. Which protects your chest to head from your dominant side and allows you to perform 5 master strike uberhau, zornhau, zwerchhau, scheitelhau and krumphau.There is a secondary guards that formed from vom tag which is called crown guards.

[@Ami-lewus]

Actually this guard is low roof guard, high roof guard is when you raise your sword over your head. Both are vom tags

[@elisa233fe]

I've just started practising and i've noticed that whenever i do the mittlehau my palm is facing up is it still correct? If not how can i correct it

[@sinisterbohemian]

It looks like for the mittlehau your palm is up as you're moving from your dominant side to your off side but the palm will be down as you move from your off side to your dominant side.

[@Siegbert85]

you pronounce it like "fomm"