Vomero 16 - First Run

[@cliffbarber1642]

I bought these last week and you’re right. They are like the Vomero of old but better. I don’t mind all cushioning in the tongue and heel. The balance of cushioning and structure is perfect! I love them.!

[@adityaroy7616]

Hi Cliff, They are slowly discontinuing this shoe. Did you purchase it online? I just found out that my nearest outlet was out of stock.

[@johnalejandroroseroalvarez2753]

Pegasus vs Vomero please!

[@steveh5242]

Seems you and EDDBUD both love this! I'm very intrigued.

[@kofuzi]

I've been very eager to see his videos on the 16. and now that I've put up my thoughts, I finally can

[@lukehynes7945]

And there is Fordy Runs who describes them as pointless and horrible

[@iulianirimia611]

@@lukehynes7945 fordy runs sucks

[@joyaclub]

Great thorough review. I love this colour way.

[@areksoo]

It seemed like 2 years ago they killed the Pegasus Turbo and only put Zoom X in their premium running shoes. Good to see Zoom X come back in their mid tier shoes. Also looking forward to the Peg39.

[@jonahs697]

I love padded tongues. In the vomero 14 - with that super thin tongue, it caused an ongoing pain in the top of my feet. I am about to get the 16's because it seems like Nike has fixed that issue.

[@JS-xn3dq]

Great review, as usual Kofuzi! Couldn’t agree more regarding all the padding, seems like overkill. That said, I may give it a try as there have been Vomeros in the past that I really liked (11?).

[@dbell4361]

Thank you. Super thorough and informative. About to purchase based on this.

[@0eieiei]

Design and color look a lot like my (decent) Nike Legend React 2s. Great content, delivery and info as always. Keep killing it, Kofuzi.

[@kofuzi]

thanks Sean!

[@ianlowe4126]

Hi Kofuzi. Another great video thank you. Recently picked up my vomero 16 from Keller sport of Germany for a bargain £72. After couple runs though I do have some issues with them. I can’t help feeling that the transition between heel and forefoot is not smooth ( I’m a heel striker ) and feels like I’m running in a 2 stage shoe. I come off the zoom x on the heal then there’s a gap before I land on the air pod before toe off if that makes sense. I would definitely put them in the daily trainer bracket and at this early stage I feel my puma velocity nitro is a better shoe. Many thanks Ian 🇬🇧

[@Mattlock52]

My opinion. A lot of people can enjoy the Vomero 16. However, they are made for heavier runners (185 - 220 lbs) for mid long range 10-20 mile daily training.

[@kofuzi]

thank you for sharing

[@wildforthecats661]

I’m thinking this possibly or the Nimbus 24.

[@bffmrk]

Kofuzi and eddbudd said it. Now im gonna wait for sale prices to get this. 👌

[@kofuzi]

I think the retail pricing isn't the best. if you can get a discount on it, you'd really have quite the bargain

[@robschuder3210]

This shoe kicks so much butt, I fit in a few this morning before work and wow I can't believe how quick that shoe is for being so cushy.

[@kofuzi]

it just works so well

[@lajollasdca]

I'm still love volume 11

[@jmac13131]

Just picked up a pair for $85 from local Hibbett Sports with Memorial Day 25% off. Colorway not as nice as yours but not too bad in grey/royal/black. Will give them a try in the morning.

[@mikedavis3385]

The upper reminds me of the Lunarglides that wore when I first started running.

[@yoonjeongsoo9378]

wait a minute... this is a max cushion? what would you call the invincible run?

[@kofuzi]

I think the Invincible is a bit of an experiment for Nike. I'd be surprised if we see a v2. but Nike is also big enough that they can have multiple offerings in the same category. the existence of one carbon plated super shoe doesn't stop them from selling another carbon plated super shoe in the same year

[@philtam4925]

@@kofuzi didn’t the vomero 15 have zoomx

[@lovethyANGELS]

What about the inifiniti react.

[@lpishere]

@@kofuzi V2 pics are already online lol

[@Kamaldhillon81]

Vs. Pegasus 39 , which one to get?

[@kofuzi]

vomero 16

[@PlatinumState]

Suprised you love them. Most if not all shoetubers really didnt like the 15's. And these are the 15's with a different upper. Who am I to trust?

[@kofuzi]

i would trust your own feet if you can try them on in a store with a treadmill. but if you're going to go solely off of youtubers, i'd recommend finding one who tends to align with you in shoe preference. for example, Meaghan Murray at Believe in the Run tend to like almost all the exact same shoes. If she likes a shoe, I have a good feeling that I will like the shoe. Eddbud, on the other hand, as much as I have love for him, we don't always agree on shoes. (this one, incidentally, is one that we agree on)

[@stevestarr9769]

The very first (1 through 3) Vomeros were awesome. I loved the 9, and it's lost its way since then (2014.) The Vomero is the neglected red-headed stepchild Nike doesn't really seem to care about. Your review, and Ed's, tempts me to try the 16.

[@lylejustinegay7810]

Everyone finds the redhead hot, after all.

[@gilbertoflores7397]

Nike doesn't push them much, but the last few pegasus models were last years vomeros with a different upper. Vomeros have been pretty decent shoes, just not necessarily widely available on moat sites, I think I've never really seen them outside of running centered sites. I think vomeros are just a well kept secret for the general public or those sneakerheads.

[@kofuzi]

I worry that the Vomero will go the way of the Zoom Elite

[@carlosangalang]

ZoomX is so overdue to arrive to the regular Pegasus line. Even with the Turbos, it would be 3 years since ZoomX was on a Peg assuming it shows up in the 39. I'll hedge and say a plate will show up in the regular Peg before ZoomX😂

[@matthiassventoest6800]

I’m checking this out after the “run testers” just dropped a first look at the 17, so wondering if I should give these a solid look instead

[@kofuzi]

I haven’t seen the 17 yet so I can’t comment

[@matthiassventoest6800]

@@kofuzi I’m basically just talking to myself, but I put it in the comment section for the algorithm

[@dorothygraham6183]

Wow love the colour, where did you get them. I have checked out all the sites and only see white, black, and pink which I just bought, so going to try them out tomorrow

[@kofuzi]

I don't recall. running warehouse or road runner sports, probably

[@altamushg]

@kofuzi which would you recommend between this and the Triumph for a heavy runner underpronator - 6’4, 320 lbs?

[@kofuzi]

triumph

[@lajollasdca]

Vomero 16 looks like old lunar glide

[@yiyang5693]

I have the Vomero 15. the midsole feels much more natural than invincible run. It’s cushiony and kind of snappy, the strike feels light. And the invincible run feels extremely unatrual it’s almost annoying.

[@macau.friend]

Visually there doesn’t seem to be that much stack height, so I would never have guessed that it’s a max cushion shoe. Guess I’ve gotten too used to Hoka and the latest Adizero series...

[@kofuzi]

i don't think Nike has ever really fully bought into the max part of max cushion. the invincible is probably the only exception to that

[@nubetre]

That gum rubber outsole is so nice looking!

[@kofuzi]

we need more gum outsoles. i will also accept more crystal rubber

[@rrao1128]

Do you recommend this for high arches feet? Thanks!

[@limsimon221]

How is this shoe compared to the Invincible as they shared many similarities.

[@kofuzi]

they really don't share that many similarities. they both have zoom x foam, but the vomero has a zoom x core, while the invincible has a full zoom x midsole. the invincible is much bouncier, but the vomero is softer. think tennis ball vs. racquet ball. the dynamics of the foot strike and the fit of the uppers are also quite different. I will probably make a comparison video soon.

[@limsimon221]

@@kofuzi Thanks Bro, you the man. 😁

[@williamdyer9809]

How about a battle between New Balance RC rebel 2 and Vomero 16? Would be interesting.

[@kofuzi]

I’ll add it to the list!

[@topbrand7663]

This one or vomero 15. You re the top

[@strengththenics8495]

Is it speedy?

[@MoonMoon-vx8kc]

I didn't even know that this shoe is coming out :o

[@patrick6110]

Shoes are standard sizes. Feet aren't. If your foot is exactly in line with standard sizes, the shoe with the least padding is best. If not, padding is a must. All these shoes with a high stack under the heel have 1 cm drops. This is because the stack compresses and the drop reduces when the foot presses the ground. Unfortunately it also means the forefoot will slap on the floor, with a whiplash effect. All these reasons are why a majority of people run in Asics and not in Nike or Adidas. It's different for professional runners who are looking to shave minutes not for the best running shoe but the fastest.

[@kofuzi]

I think, by definition, you can’t say that a shoe has a certain amount of drop when under load There is certainly a lot of physics happening at the foot strike, but I think you’ve oversimplified things

[@donsavant6170]

I find ASICS overbuilt I really want to like them cuz I like their propriety foams but they all feel super clunky to me

[@yiyang5693]

The Vomero 15 has a much thinner tounge, which cuts into the ankle, one has to wear higher socks. I also dislike thick tongues, like the one the the invincible runs, which presses down the feet too much, very unfriendly for runners with high arches. That tounge is ridiculous.

[@yeet76231]

Would you have any input on the best trainer for a sprinter?

[@kofuzi]

Peg 38, SL20, Rebel 2, Rincon 3

[@ludovicpiejos4379]

I really enjoy the zoom x from the vaporfly but unfortunately the drop is too much for a trainer for me. Nice review

[@KillaBean416]

I’m a boxer who runs 4 days a week, 4:20/km for about 30-50 minutes. The Vomero 14’s fucked my left knee and started giving my shin splints on my right leg. Saucony Endorphin speed 2 till I die

[@kofuzi]

The speed is a very good shoe

[@3November953am]

Kinda reminds me of Kobe V. 😀

[@phillipoyer3407]

Visually it looks like Nike was trying to make a shoe that would entice daily casual wearers away from Brooks and Ultraboosts. “We’ll put tons of padding everywhere like Brooks, and a mid foot cage like an Ultraboost! We can’t lose!” Put it on the shelf at Dick’s and watch the money roll in.

[@daviddrentin5981]

heel cup looks dangerous for the achilles

[@betsoncajayon5791]

Retro-ish look, hence the retro music?

[@kofuzi]

yes. and the shoe is a blast from the past, as well. in a good way.

[@RyanBalmes]

On first glance it looks as if Nike took some design cues from a low top Kobe (RIP 🙏) and made a running shoe out of it 💯

[@zlatongroup]

хорошие кроссовки

[@archiemursalin3081]

Anyone tried Asics gel kinsei blast

[@robs1714]

Might grab these to walk the dog … usually a GT2000 runner but their quality is garbage now

[@kofuzi]

Comfort for that

[@jihwankim4678]

Seems like the 15 was COMPLETELY overshadowed by other shoes. I really enjoyed the 14s so hopefully with zoomX and with a less clunky back it should be dope.

[@joshcontreras8821]

Well the 15s wernt released in the us

[@michaelbacol2865]

How does this stack up against the Invincibles?

[@grandeisern]

Great vid

[@charlesventura_]

I like the navy and the gumsoles

[@kofuzi]

I'm pretty sure it's not navy, but I'll go with navy. I think it's probably more like a Seahawks color

[@iaingourlay6782]

Looks good to me. Since watching You, Seph and Edd; I’ve bought 4 pairs of shoes and now on a ban from the wife. But I’ve still got to find my long run shoes. Oh dear I’m in trouble 😝

[@kofuzi]

you'll just have to run more to go through the shoes, then you'll be a-ok, no?

[@MiracleWarriors]

I wonder if the Vomero 16 and Vomero 15 are about the same or not . Nike just trying to catch-up with the line...

[@kofuzi]

typically, Nike does a major update one year and an upper update the next. i would think that this is the upper update, but given the unusual release of the 15, I suspect that something more than just the upper has changed

[@fauxtek]

@@kofuzi The 16 is just an upper change. On a somewhat related note, the Invincible 2 is coming in Spring 2022 and is just an upper change.

[@lucaNyc]

Im pretty sure that's a new type of Lunarlon sole

[@Envision405]

Where did you run at?

[@kofuzi]

new Vienna, Iowa

[@Envision405]

@@kofuzi ah. That looked like somewhere in Illinois

[@filoIII]

I've had 2 Vomeros, and took them both back. No thx.

[@kofuzi]

sorry they didn't work out for you. what did you end up with instead?

[@filoIII]

@@kofuzi I buy all kinds of "good" neutral shoes. Triumph, Wavesky 3 & 4, Infinite Run, UB19/21, etc. Loved the Skechers MaxRoad 3, but the nuckleheads there discontinued that beloved shoe. Nimbus is back as a pretty good shoe w/ the 22. That, and the Clifton & Bondi 6 are my goes to. Getting the More 3 tomorrow, so, we'll see.

[@kofuzi]

Thanks for the follow up! Always good to know where people go after they don’t like any given shoe

[@prod1gy305]

I really want this shoe but not for training but for casual wear because to me it does not look like a running shoe 😂

[@kofuzi]

pretty comfy for casual use

[@tieloo8842]

Yo! ☝🏻

[@leospartacus6668]

Thailand

[@kofuzi]

yo!

[@TheBowerbird]

This shoe ain't it.

[@kofuzi]

It’s not for everyone, but it’s for me

[@too_stupid]

Hey Kofuzi, will you be checking out the adios 6? I've heard some good things about that shoe, and would love to see your input!

[@kofuzi]

it has been on my list ever since I tried the Boston 10. I still have quite a backlog of shoes to get through, but I hope I will be able to get to it soon

[@soundofenigma]

If you're speculations are true and since the 39 will be highly getting a midsole update (as seen on the history of the Pegasus updates), I'm quite excited for next year's Pegasus.

[@cliffbarber1642]

This was extremely helpful review. I really like your style of review. I’m a long term runner in Vomero’s. Have loved them all except for the 14 (the sharp corner coming out of the back wasn’t great sitting down stretches where you need the back of the shoes to be flush to the ground). Truthfully my favorite pair were the 13s and since then I’ve not liked the experimental styling, but I do like the line so your review has inspired me to give them a try. Thank you!

[@shawnstrohm]

I’ve been curious about this shoe as there haven’t been many reviews. It seems like these and the Invincible can serve the same purpose in the Nike line. Which do you prefer?

[@kofuzi]

I think they certainly can be viewed similarly. I'll be doing a battle video, comparing the two. it's been a while since I've run in the Invincible, but I'll likely end up preferring the Vomero. stay tuned.

[@shawnstrohm]

@@kofuzi Thanks for the reply. I’m a big fan of your channel. Can’t wait to see the battle videos. I’m curious to see a comparison to the Peg 38 as well.

[@carlosangalang]

@@kofuzi looking forward to the Vomero and Invincible comparison too!

[@08CRP18]

I actually bought these shoes last week for work and they are sooooo comfortable. This shoe reminds me a lot of the lunar glide 8 design wise.

[@kofuzi]

a lot of nostalgia in this shoe

[@shannonsides6017]

You really do make THE best running footage videos, Ko. And I really admire the fact that you buy so many of these shoes on your own. This shoe looks great minus the giant sweat bags, I mean the plush material along the heel and tongue. Thanks for another great review!

[@kofuzi]

thanks Shannon! i do enjoy working with brands or retailers to coordinate shoes (especially when it comes to getting shoes early), but other times, it's just easier for and more straightforward (from a reviews perspective) to get the shoe myself. and I'm lucky to have enough support from people watching the videos to keep doing that.

[@voltsantillan]

Performance wise it looks similar to the Supernova 2017.

[@danielatherton7362]

All black with white tick lime green inside 🔥🔥and in sale for £65 British pounds.Good video 👍

[@StanleyCup919]

So does this kind of go back to the feeling of Peg’s pre-35 redesign??

[@kofuzi]

the shoe really reminds me of the 33 an 34

[@memeliomiestas]

Vomero 14 bether

[@romrome]

Bought the past 3 Saucony Triumphs after watching your videos and the biggest challenge for me in terms of fit is the toe box. Having mentioned that this has a roomier fit, how does it compare to the Triumph (since Vomero at least in men's do not come with a WIDE option)? Thanks Mike, and oh, congratulations again on finishing CHITRI :)

[@altamushg]

Great question, pretty much in the same boat as you

[@isaacrocha3404]

Hey Romeo, I have the saucony triumph 18 in a 10.5 wide and the Vomero 16 in a size 10. The saucony 10.5 wide obviously feels more roomy on the toe box due to it being half a size bigger and wide. However with half a size down on the vomero and it not being wide, I felt the same comfort as in the triumph except a little less room due to it being a half a size smaller and not wide, but I think the vomero 16 is just a naturally wide shoe specially for it being nike shoe. They feel very similar to the triumph on the tongue, heel and toe box with almost that same silky soft feel that the triumphs have. Except I feel way more locked inn on the vomero due to its heel cup shape. The vomero feels a bit shorter than the triumph, the triumph sits noticeable taller than the Vomero, but the Vomero feels more aggressive and faster, the zoom x also feels a bit softer than the triumph but just by a bit not to much of a difference, the Triumph's feel a bit more laid back a little more relaxed maybe even a bit heavier aswell, the shoelaces are longer and don't lock u in as good as the vomero. I'm a size 10 and the vomero are definitely true to size so I don't recommend sizing up. For the triumph 18 I felt like sizing up felt a little more comfortable to me but I mainly got the triumph a little bigger for the reason that I just wanted all day comfort and not really to train in them.. Hope this helps man I just wished that I had the same size on both shoes to give u a better comparison but overall if you like the triumph I'm sure you will like the Vomero 16 they feel very similar in almost every aspect main difference being, stack height and that lock in feel. 🤘

[@samloosg]

Definitely will get this shoes. I try it on and feel so comfortable just like my Nike infinity. Infinity is a bit softer and feel I had to push harder to pick up speed. My last vomero is 13 which is heavy but also comfortable to run in. And it last a long time. Thanks for the review. I have more confident to get this shoes to replace my infinity soon.

[@frre9302]

Too much pressure on top of the foot: Nike Zoom Fly3! It's a quite strange shoe on my foot...

[@joemercado955]

How do we think all that padding will affect us on long runs on hot day?

[@brainkale]

There's so much going on visually with these. But good to know it feels good to run in.

[@pam00088]

Looks to be an achilles wrecker.

[@kofuzi]

I didn't feel that, but I think that a lot of the features of the upper on this shoe are choices that will be neutral to most but could be a problem to some

[@user-dp6qt8pk7m]

Insane editing, sound. And voiceover

[@kofuzi]

thanks so much!

[@Ab-qp2yu]

It looks much heavier than 280 gm, for a daily cushion shoe, it is good, nice review

[@kofuzi]

4 times, the weight came in at 286g. 1 time, it weighed 284g.

[@Ab-qp2yu]

@@kofuzi Yeah, with all that padding, outsole, its a light shoe.

[@JonsConsciousLife]

Boom

[@kofuzi]

yo!

[@adrianbjones]

Damn it's ugly :)

[@kofuzi]

they remind me of the Nike Air Adjust Force, a shoe I never had but coveted greatly

[@Formerly-known-as-Steve]

Great Scott… you like it

[@kofuzi]

hahaha!

[@houseofillreview2276]

Is this a skate shoe?

[@kofuzi]

I longboard every once in a while with my kids, but I would say probably not. if I wanted to get a nike shoe to skate in, I'd go with sb dunks