#10MinuteTalk

[@bigtruck8145]

The boys explaining every meme for the audio crowd is the meme-est thing about this podcast.

[@JimYeats]

Right? I loved it while I was driving.

[@walkercage2606]

I think we need an episode on Ryan’s silence about the 6.8 western. Seems to be a little bit unpacked there.

[@samsgreen1]

6.5 is the nickleback of rifles, nobody likes to admit they actually like it.

[@jaimesanborn308]

😂😂😂

[@TLHyoutube]

Ryan's "Kip" impression from Napoleon Dynamite is by God, spot on.

[@TacticallyTasty]

I could listen to Ryan and Mark tell stories all day

[@WileyBell]

I’m 76 years old and have had some of my best laughs in the deer camp about how much “deader” a 270 Win would kill than 30-06. Lol 6.5 Creed is a wonderful cartridge! I just wish so many people would realize the twist rate of the rifle helps make it a better cartridge. I’m not a long distance deer hunter 350-400 is my max. High BC is major important beyond that. Great video guys! WB

[@SouthernShodan]

Love these cartridge talks. Like the way they interact like hunting buddies

[@ELRas53]

The Creedmoor "hate" is a knee-jerk reaction to the over done hype associated with it. It isn't magic, and it isn't much different than much older cartridges.

[@DanielReyes-hz1qk]

Hardly any cartridges are much different than older cartridges 😂

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

The difference is industry support, which is the make or break between cartridges that are mostly the same.

[@DanielReyes-hz1qk]

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Definitely true. And sometimes we disagree with cartridges the industry chooses to support. Personally, I like the newer style cartridges. Fatter, less tapered cases, sharper shoulders, longer necks, tighter chamber dimensions, faster twist SAAMI specs, etc

[@mfallen2023]

A lot of people just don't like Hornady's marketing horseshit. All the little lies by omission, double-speak ("6.5 Creed is a long range game magnet!" Then they start getting hate from the conservationists and wardens/rangers finding all these gut-shot deer/elk due to novices thinking they can take an 800yd shot because of high BC's, and then: "6.5Creed was always intended as a target cartridge!" The "technically true-isms" that aren't practical for anything other than selling the round to those ignorant of the issues. (looking at you ARC's being "AR15-ready") Technically fits, but you need a bolt that costs as much as a Tikka T3 in order to not have bolt lug peen'ing off the barrel extension and/or shearing at really low round counts... Or if you're going to use a normal Carpenter 158 bolt you have two different pressure levels with that bolt face: SAAMI max for bolt-actions, about 8-10k psi less for AR15's. They don't tell the normies this though, they have to figure it out on their own. All companies are guilty of re-inventing the wheel when it comes to new cartridge designs, but only Hornady tacks all this extra bs into their marketing.

[@DanielReyes-hz1qk]

@mfallen2023 I guess I missed all the marketing. Which makes sense given I don't have a TV or read magazines, lol. And the 6.5 Creedmoor was literally designed as a target cartridge....I remember when it happened. I was into precision shooting at the time, in what a decade or so later became PRS, and saw the transition from 308s to 6.5mm cartridges like the 260 Remington. I'm pretty sure the 6.5 Creedmoor was born out of all of that at some point

[@Saberlus]

skip this whole video and go straight to 52:01 and just watch from there, best minute and a half of 10 min talks ever

[@chipsterb4946]

Thank you! 😂

[@Saberlus]

@ I can't believe you did it with a straight face though

[@m444ss]

It's just so ironic that so many people who claim the 6.5CM is a bad whitetail cartridge use words like "classic" to describe .243 Win not only for Whitetail but also other big game. (it's also quite juvenile.)

[@Westerner_]

This. I’ll never understand this. You hear guys all the time say it’s not enough gun for deer size game then claim 243 is perfectly adequate.

[@CCH-R]

@@Westerner_243 is plenty but if 243 is good for deer 6.5 is closer to a 308 so it’s definitely good for deer

[@handlehandleton]

At my FFL I overheard two different guys come to the counter and ask for a box of 6.5 CM like it was one of those one paragraph Starbucks drinks, then get pissy when the guy was like "here is the same thing you are asking for." The guy working there said every time some influencer makes new sponsored content he spends the next week getting educated on ballistics from dudes in Barbell Apparel shirts. Those memes are probably all made by guys working behind the counter lol.

[@JimYeats]

This is a great video idea. Well done. I genuinely like you guys describing the memes since I’m listening while driving.

[@actionjacksonsd]

While we are analyzing memes, can we please get a 375 Raptor podcast

[@elitearchery]

Nice rifle but I prefer 7mm-08 more versatile for my needs. Thanks for explaining ballastics and bullet tech ie copper vs standard cup and core bullets 👍

[@WesleyKennedy]

Thank you for taking the time out of your day to introduce a new generation to memes 😅

[@C0wboyman]

You know how a new song comes out and the radio stations so overplay it and you get so tired of hearing that song that you have to change the channel every time it comes on? That's how the 6.5 creedmore is for me. Great round I guess but I am just so sick of hearing about it that I could never own one. Each time I hear the name of that cartridge it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. Sorry not Sorry.

[@El-Diablo-Blanco]

I couldn't have said it better while still avoiding youtubes censorship. 👏

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Wait until you learn about water.

[@robertbent7999]

Exactly spot on!

[@stevez3041]

I can't stop laughing, that was a great episode. I don't have a 6.5 but would love to. Great show guys.

[@kyleleber43]

When she sees your 6.5 creedmoor 😂 y’all kept it together better than I would’ve

[@rcosg542yt]

The way Ryan deconstructs these memes and articulates his perspective... it's like if an ivy- league literature professor got really into cartridges.

[@jeremyjensen2703]

Once you mentioned the Tool Lateralus album this podcast immediately jumped to top 5 of all time!!! No question one of the best rock albums of all time!!

[@shauno7582]

My first cf was a .308… Was awesome, but I sold it and went to 6.5cm.. Never looked back!! More long range target stuff over hunting fyi..

[@wolfgangvonmueller6895]

This was fun (and funny). I own rifles chambered in various cartridges and a few in 6.5CM. Great fun on the bench/long range, tailor made for midwest whitetail hunters (with proper bullet choice) but it isn't the greatest thing ever nor is it the worst. It was over-hyped and that probably set the haters in motion. It ain't the greatest for sure but conversely, those who say "it sucks" should probably throttle it back because you just sound/come off rather dumb because it doesn't suck when used appropriately. It's just another cartridge and works fine for the right applications (just like every other cartridge ever created).

[@the.reel.mccoy.]

Great conversation gents! I've personally grown to become a big fan of the .270 wsm. Absolutely no hate for the 6.5 creedmorhere. I will say, I certainly do appreciate the very minimal recoil in comparrison to most deer hunting rounds, inherent accuracy, and the price of the 6.5 creedmor. I just find it hard to make the switch from the .270 wsm due to the difference in flatness of trajectory and the greater knockdown power.

[@timfetters7471]

Hilarious video! Taking memes and analyzing them as if there was actually scientific thought behind them made an entertaining listen. But let’s be honest, proxy pigeon Jim used sonar frequencies to guide Ryan’s adrenal gland to subliminally favor the 6.5 creedmore.

[@BrockOBauma]

Instead of discussing memes, this coulda been the .300 savage podcast.

[@chuckkuang91]

This is the content I live for

[@tyanderson4267]

Enjoyed the podcast. My wife just inherited a Remington 600 in 6mm Remington. I would love to see Ryan talk about the lead balloon that 6mm rem is.

[@FightinWinchukian-i1x]

it's a .257 Roberts necked down to .243. it had too slow a twist rate, too long a cartridge length, especially in Remington short actions. DOA.

[@linkbond08]

I'm curious about 6.5 Grendel in an AR upper.

[@brettliddicoat3284]

with current stuff id look into 6arc instead

[@ArcChain]

​@brettliddicoat3284 as an owner, shooter, and fan of both, I would wholeheartedly agree

[@WayStedYou]

35:16 It's a cutaway gag from 30 rock where he is thinking back on being a private invesitgator thinking he blended into a high school but the kids notice straight away away, basically a play up of 21 jump street series.

[@tyrelhunter6529]

The "What have you done?" after Ryan saying 308 is a good practice cartridge made me belly laugh on the airplane 😂

[@TheSfoil]

The 6.5 is the Glock of deer cartridges. Take that how you will.

[@Saberlus]

DANK MeMes Bros! ur descriptive prowess is now legendary!

[@Jeffreyperez-rp6ow]

Once again an entertaining and informative video. Unfortunately I believe I've run out of creative ways to request the long overdue "Cartridge Talk" on the .358. Please fellas, this elderly vet has been super patient and polite. Thanks gents, jmp

[@clayp520]

Thanks for doing this. Funny. Made my day!

[@A-a-ron480]

Another amazing video, i also love all the cartridges, If it works it's fine... 300rum, 270, 6.5 cm, 30-06, 223, 204 22mag 22lr, 38 special, 9mm 40s&w. 300blk. If I listen to everyone, I am a very confused individual.

[@Dex06TJ]

Ryan does a damn fine Ron Swanson imitation. Also helped me setup my own 6.5

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

I bought a 6.5 CM several years ago, in the Savage Axis platform, because it was a ridiculously inexpensive Black Friday deal at Cabela's. Great shooting rifle (after I swapped out the trigger spring), at a super deal, and I really enjoy shooting it. Ammo is modestly priced, and for my hunting purposes (mainly whitetail) it is a terrific caliber and weapon system. Haters are gonna hate

[@amsb4dafunk558]

Have you seen the recent X Ring videos of the Savage Axis in caliber 6.5 Creedmoor?

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

@@amsb4dafunk558 I have not. Are they worth watching

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

On your recommendation I looked up the X Ring videos, and little did I realize, I had seen them, not long ago. Very interesting vids!

[@amsb4dafunk558]

@@TeamJesusOutdoors 6 months ago I put together a 300PRC Using the Outlier chassis, and barrel On a Rem 700 action It took a bit of load development but hitting a 12” plate from 1700 yards is now pretty easy It has twice the recoil of a 30.06 So I’ve started to put together 6.5 Creedmoor for the kids Just waiting to find a used Savage Axis at my local gun stores They usually go for under $200 out the door.

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

Sounds like an impressive rifle! In my opinion the Savage Axis is a Bargain!

[@jacklewis3444]

I work at gun store in central Texas and all my south Texas customers hate the 6.5 Creedmoor.

[@brianperiso674]

I'm 51 years old in Michigan and really enjoy the 6.5 Creedmoor for shooting at the range and the Whitetail woods. Hardly a topic of debate here. Just a lifelong outdoor enthusiast and enjoying the greatest time in history to be a firearm nut!

[@jamescorby6854]

Before owning one I gave my buddies who had them a hard time for jumping on the bandwagon of the next coolest thing. The more I talked with them and learned about it I had to admit it was a fine caliber. Now I tell people it is boring because you have a hard time finding one that doesn’t shoot good and where we live it’s more than enough for any game around.

[@Stakkatoking]

And once again, Ryan displays impeccable taste - this time in music. #tool

[@jeremyhoward998]

The hate for the cartridge comes from the attitude of the fan boys who own and swear up and down it’s the best thing since sliced bread.

[@andrewmberland]

I have a request: I have two youngsters that have started going with me on hunts. I’m now looking at getting them a youth rifle so they can start being the one behind the gun. I am looking at a Ruger American Gen II in 350 Legend, but I would love to see a podcast on rifle options and cartridge options for youth hunters before I pull the trigger on a rifle for them. You’ve done your budget rifle roundups and discussed loads of cartridges, but I would love to see you discuss both rifle and cartridge options with youth hunters in mind. Thanks, and love your podcast content!

[@PogLife2171]

The marketing/hype made it easy to bully the cartridge, and there are a lot of cases of less than optimal results with high bc hunting projectiles when using them at closer than intended ranges. The marketing is also pretending like they own "modern/efficient" cartridges where as other cartridges are doing similar jobs but not getting the glamour they deserve.

[@benbreakfast4314]

I have more than one .308, but I like my 6.5 more 🤭

[@dhooter]

The F class bros call it the 6.5 Needmore

[@wademitchell7378]

6.5 Creedmoor is the Nickelback of cartridges. Everyone loved them, then it became hip to bash them, and now everyone is realizing they were actually pretty good.

[@jw8327]

Just finished watching your wheelgun videos? You got any on 357 magnum? All I see was the 44 magnum video. Thanks!

[@joshfrohock2141]

I never knew what video memes were called either. But that's irrelevant because they're now "tik-taks." That was great I cracked up Had to come back and add to this. So many funny lines in here. Mark, you heathen. You and your lattice

[@dawsonmorgan9289]

I'm definitely not a huge fan of the 6.5, but I think it is a good cartridge when used appropriately. My problems with it are A. The 7mm-08 already does everything the 6.5 will. And B. So many people seem to think the 6.5 is a 800 yard elk rifle. It's not. Use the cartridge as intended, and just like every other cartridge in the world, it will do its job.

[@elitearchery]

Also I reload my current favorite is the 6ARC. My current line up is .350 legend on public ground 6arc for most things followed by 7mm-08 then 30/06.

[@ChitFromChinola]

All normal transitions in the Hype Curve. 1. Inflated expectations 2. Trough of disillusionment 3. Plateau of normalization We’re in Stage 2 right now, but no worries, we will eventually get to normalization.

[@gerrybulgin7402]

I have a 7600 rem in 243 a tc encore in 2506 . Plus a couple of 30 cals. If I have a hike in sheep hunt planned for the Canadian Rockies is a 6.5 cm to add to the collection a good decision or , as I am leaning, would a 6,5 prc be a better choice?

[@BryanShull-lt8gz]

According to the "Bible", Lee's second addition reloading manual, the 260 remington top velocity for 95 grain bullets is 3391 fps while the 6.5 creed is 3313. With 100 grain Barnes bullets 260 top velocity is 3171 fps and 6.5 is 3163 fps. Through 142 grain bullets they can both be loaded to nearly identical velocities. The Lee manual has data up to 160 grain bullets for the 260 Remington while it stops at 142 for the 6.5 Creedmoor. I have a 260 Remington Magpul with 1:8 twist barrel which makes the 6.5 Creedmoor unnecessary! It's a fine cartridge I just don't see the need to reinvent the wheel.

[@shanehebert396]

I have a .260 w/ 1:8 as well, I had to order it. The main thing is that off-the-shelf rifles don't. That's kind of the point... the same thing for the 7PRC (compared to the 7RemMag) and others. You go buy the standard rifle from the store today and it has fast twist. When you buy one off your hunting buddy sometime down the line, it'll have the right twist. 40 years from now when you see one on sale at the local pawn shop, it'll have the right twist. They'll all have the right twist. That's not the case with a .260Rem or a 7RemMag.

[@midwestbd7144]

⁠@@shanehebert396100%. I argue with people all the time about this and why these new cartridges have their place. A fast twist 7mag will give the prc a run for its money but you’ll have to hand load because ammo manufacturers won’t produce bullets that won’t stabilize with the sammi twist rate or have an OAL that is too long

[@midwestbd7144]

One of the best ones I hear is “the 6.5 creedmoor was designed as a target cartridge” like that even matters Lol. Bullet selection determines what the cartridge will be good for.

[@ericthered7226]

It's a fact though. For the longest time, that's what the overwhelming majority of ammunition made for it was also. Match grade target ammo.

[@toddboyer9691]

Ryan's Kip impersonation 85% Kip 15% Stewie Griffin!

[@Nanstar0k]

The 6.5 Creedmore is the Creed (Rock Band) of rifle calibers. Even the haters will max out the volume and karaoke "With Arms Wide Open" when it comes on the radio.

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

In South Africa, Afrikaans people call it a “6.5 kruit mors” wich translates to “6.5 powder waste”

[@matt2735]

Waste or Waist???

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

Let me also just add…. I own a 6.5CM. It works.

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

@@matt2735oh shoot… yes, I meant waste. Showing English is my second language there…. Fixed it

[@leeturner3143]

Here's what I hear people saying. "The 243 is a great deer round. The 7mm-08 is a great deer round. The 257 Roberts is a great deer round. That 6.5CM? No way." It's a completely inconsistent argument. The 6.5CM falls right in there with them ballistically. Ignore the hype, ignore the fan boys, ignore the haters. Use it for what it is. A mild and effective medium game hunting cartridge that most anyone can shoot well. There's a lot to be said for that.

[@fishead6384]

I have had a 25-06 for probably 12 years and it is awesome just yesterday I bought a 6.5 creedmoor rifle and felt inherently flamboyant walking out of the store with it just because of the aura around a 6.5 creedmoor but wanted something that like you all stated you can really stretch your dollar shooting this round even though for what I spent on the rifle I could have bought over 800 rounds of 25-06 but I also wanted a short action rifle so yay for that

[@LogicNotAssumed]

Listening to Lateralus for the last 2 days thanks to Ryan’s recommendation

[@ratherbefishing4225]

After years of looking down my nose at the masses being duped by the brilliant advertising that has made the creedmoor successful, I bought my first one today because I realized that it made the most sense… for a specific purpose: ringing steel at the local 300-900 yard range at minimum cost with minimum recoil, and be able to hunt deer if needed. Brass is free, I can pick up as much as I want in the bins at the range. Projectiles are about as cheap as you can get unless you go to a .22 diameter (and I wanted a big game legal cartridge). It burns about as little powder as possible to deliver a projectile at supersonic velocities at 900. So I’m eating my words a bit but that’s ok.

[@JamesWalker-ng1qh]

That was fun lol. Thanks!

[@TheAcesShow]

Id love to hear more hunting stories, just a whole podcast of shooting the shit. i lost it when Ryan mentioned the guy saying "Zim or Zam" 😂

[@DanielReyes-hz1qk]

I was late to the 6.5 Creedmoor bandwagon so I don't understand all the hate it gets, lol.

[@Magnum_Express]

It's a decent cartridge. The hate is the hype for it. That's it's the best thing since the 30-06. It's not , but I'm glad it's popular because it's great for what it is; low recoil deer round. But it did reinvent the wheel. The 260 rem and 6.5x55 do everything it can do it, with the same bullet in the same twist barrel

[@dnnyshdy5189]

@@Magnum_ExpressChildish

[@Magnum_Express]

​@@dnnyshdy5189in what regard? It's a good cartridge. It's nothing special though. It's just good. I really hope that was a sarcastic comment lol

[@dnnyshdy5189]

@@Magnum_Express It’s childish to hate something because it’s hyped up

[@jaydunbar7538]

@@dnnyshdy5189 it’s childish to declair anyone with an opinion as childish as

[@dr.froghopper6711]

270 baby

[@jloco_88]

Me over here, still patiently waiting to hear Mr. Ryan Muckenhirn talk about .22 TCM. It was an interesting little cartridge before it completely fell off.

[@jackbuendgen389]

When was the last vortex podcast 10 minute talk that was... 10 minutes??

[@jaydunbar7538]

Was there ever one? I think 20min is about the closest I recall lol

[@rolanddeschain5024]

Watching/listening to you two describe memes is like listening to my grandparents describe a porn movie. Just a hard no. Love the rest of your stuff, keep it up. Need more pigeon.

[@rickschwertner282]

I loved this episode, corny memes and all..

[@mr.mr.3301]

Other than distance and ballistic coefficient. What what are the complaints of the 308 and 3006 you hear?

[@chuckbrubaker-go9yg]

Love the podcast. I absolutely fall into the nonCreed camp. 1st off,I understand ballistic tables and it Is a good cartridge. My issue Is Definitely with the hype that has surrounded it. And Allvthe articles when it came out comparing it to the older stuff. Where it was high BC 143grn vs a 30 cal 150 grn but never gave the Bc of the 30 it could've been a rnd nose. Was never apples to apples. Same BC at same velocity the large calibers always win. Only advantage I see is no recoil for high volume competitions . Thoughts from one noncreed shooter.

[@stoddard99]

Love it, great entertainment!

[@tjfaull27]

😅 I was in the showroom on Friday getting a 5-25 Viper HD on my B14.

[@mbikesrulee]

So glad I don't have either yet so now I know which one to get

[@brianedgett2134]

I have shot both They have pros and cons to each Just need to stay in the limits of the round

[@NorthRiverGuide]

I thoroughly enjoyed this critique of such art. I'm curious though why the most common 6.5 meme was omitted. The one including two aboriginal gentlemen following tracks where one says "deer hit, will live" and the other asks "how can tell?", to which the first one replies "6.5creedmoor case in snow". I grew up around a reservation, and see that as a very deep piece of art.

[@CarsonSchell-l3b]

Ryans wisdom speaks again! As a 6.5 creed user I see unicorn dust every time my gun goes off! Question for Ryan, if your building a 16” bolt gun for 50-350 yard whitetail what cartridge are you building it in? Btw, I’m the 22-250 (whiteclaw) guy!

[@The_Judge300]

I am VERY confident that Ryan will say a 308 Win with a 130grs Barnes TTSX bullet. And then he will most likely have a 6.5 Creedmoor with a 120grs Barnes TTSX bullet or maybe even more likely a 127grs Barnes LRX bullet as a second choice. Just have a look at Ryan's Tikka with a 16" barrel in 308 Win that he used to kill 2 whitetails on a hunt posted on this channel 9 days ago. He showed the gun and talked about it in their episode 293. Barrel Length - Does Size Really Matter?

[@rodrydavis6694]

The 6.5 Creedmoor is no better (or worse) than the 260 Remington for hunting purposes. The 6.5 Creed’s main advantages over the 260 are popularity (thus availability) and ability to handle the longer, higher BC bullets. At sensible hunting ranges only the availability is significant. As stated in the video, it is not a magic cartridge and those many folks who say it is, is what turns people off of it.

[@The_Judge300]

I LOVE all sorts of 6.5mm cartridges and even if I like a LOT of other cartridges from the 17 HMR and up, do I VERY often choose one of the 6.5 cartridges I own when I go hunting. No matter if it is for red fox or moose or anything in between in size. I did order a Tikka in 308 Win last week and it is also a great cartridge. The main reason for why I ordered this Tikka in 308 Win, is because of ammo availability. I intend to travel a lot to different corners of the world to hunt with this gun and I want to make sure that it will always be easy for me to find some kind of ammo I can hunt with.

[@jacobcline7076]

Looks like the pigeon is named Jim now.

[@aaronhellhake4879]

Ryan made a comment and episode or a few ago in regards to how we have become so obsessed with accuracy and is it really that important for hunting. Please do a show on how much accuracy is necessary

[@luloadventure]

Cartridge Talk: 8,5x55 Blaser

[@exodusz19]

Need to do a “Vortex Nation Podcast After Dark” for the darker memes

[@aaronkimsanders1025]

The 6.5 Creedmore is almost identical to the 6.5 Swed; the key is shot placement.

[@jrhunt414]

Got an RPR, 6.5 creed, Vortex PST. Yep, thing shoots great. Got those 143 ELDXs. Yep sits in the safe. Yep 308 is better.

[@bradleyhughes6853]

I think the 6.5 Creedmoor answers some questions and definitely has a place, but the people I know that hate it do not hate the cartridge as much as the people that make up capabilities that it does not have. Like being able to take a bull moose at 800 yards without a follow up shot through-and-through with a Sierra match king (I truly heard a customer at the gun store I frequent say he did this with a 6.5 Creedmoor).

[@jmc041071]

Anyone else notice how Ryan reacted at the mention of the 6.8 Western? What are his issues with it?

[@craigparker4108]

No idea, but looks very foolish.

[@jmc041071]

@craigparker4108 wasn't thinking that. I think the hosts are great, i just would like to know reasons for his expression. I just want to know as much about that cartridge that I can. Unfortunately, none of the hosts ever answer back. At least, not to my comments.

[@craigparker4108]

@@jmc041071 Maybe an undeclared agreement with Hornady, who knows. But a very suspect reaction. A grain of salt with these guys. I would rather listen to GunBlue490 no agenda just facts, experience & pragmatic.

[@jeffreyadams5017]

Nine deer taken with the creed. Never lost one, three dropped in their tracks. My 19 year old daughters favorite, she will not part with it.

[@jsteinbeck07]

I don't know about y'all but I DID NOT have Ryan Muckenhirn analyzing memes on my 2024 bingo sheet.

[@littleshopintheshed]

Is the 6.5 Creedmore the Nickleback or Creed of the gun world??

[@kennywolfjr.6413]

I think my favorite 6.5 meme was when the old rags like F&S and outdoor life would post an article about anything (because at the time any big game article or centerfire rifle review included a 6.5 somehow) a subsect of idiots, myself included, would comment about how it would do any and all things including tucking in our kids, getting us out of debt, making our hair grow back, all before splitting the heart of a deer in two and skinning and gutting it and cooking the backstraps for us.

[@aceametric]

Recently got a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action for my first centerfire rifle - wasn't my first choice for a cartridge but got a really good deal on a secondhand rifle that still shoots under an inch at 100. And now that I've owned one, I can see why it's popular. I mean, it's a nice all around cartridge, it's not super expensive to shoot, plenty of factory loads, plenty of handloading potential, relatively low recoil, and supresses well too. But in the same vein I also can't understand why there is so much talk of it being made of magic and pixie dust. It has its limitations as does every cartridge. 6.5 creedmoor - a fine cartridge but one that is severely over hyped

[@quintonhays371]

We now need a 308 episode since u dropped the ball on 308 videos

[@dhooter]

I enjoy my Creed a lot. Fun to reload and play with accuracy

[@DakotaDoc]

I had two 6.5 Creedmoor's until a few days ago, I sold my Ruger American Predator to my cousin because this is the 4th season he has borrowed it for a deer season. Maybe it is the Vortex 4.5 x 14 x 50 When he predictably texted his request, this time asked if it was for sale.

[@fromwhereistandmedicineriv6273]

Why re invent the 6.5x55 Swede? Love to hear about more mid bores. Love the show.

[@stephencooper5040]

10:39 those sentiments are correct. Every cartridge IS simultaneously the best and the worst. The best for its intended purpose, the worst for things outside of that.

[@sn1per194]

I say the exception to that is 30-06. It's the best at everything and cannot be beaten. 😅 🍿 🍿 🍿 Ill wait here for the fun.

[@rhy1013]

I just now decided that 6.5 Creedmoor is the Nickelback of cartridges. It’s perfectly fine, but got too popular too fast and now gets undue hate. 260 Remington is basically the same without the highs and lows.

[@DougJohnson-g5f]

I have never shoot or owned 6.5 needmoor. But I do have a 6.5 hasmore PRC