How does Carnatic Music have 16 swaras? | VoxGuru ft. Pratibha Sarathy

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You thought the correct answer was 7, right ? But Carnatic Music is several layers deep, and in this video, I simplify many concepts to help understand how many swara possibilities exist in practice!

[@sharmisai]

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[@VoxGuru]

Thank you!

[@tgsriram6149]

I was so averse to Carnatic music because I thought it was boring, and the concepts were difficult to understand. Your videos are phenomenal and you explain the concepts so clearly👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Wish I had access to your videos 10 years ago! Many thanks for doing this to all of us. I also like how you integrate movie songs with Carnatic music. You do have a beautiful voice! Look forward to more of your videos.🙏🏼

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I cannot believe I learnt varna and Kriti in childhood without knowing any of this 🥺 Glad to revamp on my lost hobbies and looking at them from a fresh start.

[@jalajasankar6369]

Pratibha!!!! u r a Good teacher . Beautifully explained.Thank u so much.🙏

[@VoxGuru]

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[@ivatigerfox2548]

Seven notes in the scale Twelve tones as a whole Sixteen names in total Got it

[@VoxGuru]

Awesome :-)

[@venkateshjayaraman7851]

Well explained and was very informative

[@its_winterx_j6496]

This is really gorgeous mam ur voice is just beautiful:D

[@mahadevaniyer2726]

R3 /G1 are between R2 and G1 and ditto for D3/N1: Sadharana Gandharam is not so ordinary after all: Please check and confirm! 🤠🙏

[@poornimajd645]

What a clarity explanation Hats off Thank you so much

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you!

[@Elizabeth-vh6il]

This is a very good explanation. Thanks. I'm trying to figure a few things out. a) Is there some kind of music theoretical or physics based reason behind why M only has 2 possible choices or varieties while R, G, D and N each have 3 varieties? Would it sound bad if you tried to invent an M3 or is it simply that no masterful musician has ever demonstrated such a raga in the history of the tradition? b) I'm assuming the reason that P doesn't move is because it's always a perfect fifth above the root note S and the perfect fifth is special in Carnatic music just as it is in western music because of its stability (because the frequencies of Pa and Sa have a 3:2 ratio and so the only thing that reminds us of S more strongly than P is Ṡ which has a 2:1 ratio)? 3) I was wondering if you ever use any different modes of these scales, such singing from R to Ṙ instead of S to Ṡ? (Although the fact that there are already lots of choices for R, G, M, D and N already creates a lot more variety than it's possible to get from the 7 modes of the 2212221 pattern which is used to generate the western major and natural minor scales.) 4) I saw another one of your videos where you showed how the ascending scale can be different from the ascending scale. But the examples you gave only differed with respect to how some notes out of the 7 notes found in the parent raga could be omitted either from the ascending scale or from descending scale or from both (as well other melodic variations like zigzags). Then I came across the Khamaj from Hindustani music which has N3 in its ascending scale but N2 in its descending scale. So I'm guessing that maybe this feature is something that distinguishes Hindustani and Carnatic music? And I'm wondering how many of 7 tones can potentially have different versions in the ascending and descending sections? Is it like western classical music where the ascending scale and the descending scale only vary from one another in certain controlled and limited ways which came about because of certain specific reasons, such as when the harmonic or melodic minor is used when ascending up the scale but the natural minor is (within the classical tradition) always the variation of the minor scale which is used when descending downwards? Or would even the most extreme case be permissible where all 5 of the variable notes differed between going up and going down? I confess that I'm ignorant about much of the qualities of Indian music. I think I'll take the time to watch the rest of your fabulous playlist and try to grasp the basics first. Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. The quality is excellent. I was actually originally trying to learn western music theory but I have a habit of keeping asking questions like, "But why is it this way?" and, "But what would happen if we took these rules to an extreme, beyond what's typically done (in the western classical style)?" And I seem to keep accidentally landing upon concepts from Indian music. For instance, I thought about how a 6/8 time signature is commonly thought of in terms of two groups of three beats and then I wondered about how one would go about breaking down a number like 11 beats into smaller pieces. And this led me to a Wikipedia article about angas and tisra dhruva tala via first watching kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmGuZKOHnLl8rLc (about an Armenian artist) and kzbin.info/www/bejne/harcl3-qjraWras (about Indian rhythm). And now I'm interested in trying to "fully" understand scales and I noticed that in the western system it's the case that having two adjacent scale degrees which are 3 semitones apart is not so common. Western composers invented the harmonic minor scale which contains one of these (2122131) but then they considered the new larger jump which they'd introduced to be a problem that they needed to fix by creating the melodic minor scale (2122221). But I stumbled across the double harmonic scale which has two 3 semitone leaps (1312131) and I think it sounds nice. Also unusual in western scales are situations where three adjacent scale degrees occupy 3 adjacent semitones. The double harmonic and the Neapolitan scales (1222221) each have one of these but neither scale is common. But then I accidentally hit upon ragas and the existence of these 72 patterns and when these are expressed in terms of patterns of semitone intervals they often contain 3s or a run of three consecutive 1s (1321113 = ) or they have not zero or one but sometimes even two separate runs of two consecutive 1s (e.g. 3112311 = ) which western music really shies away from. Of course western music became obsessed with chords even from quite an early time period and when working with chords the choice of which notes to put into the scale affects not only the voice leading qualities horizontally but also the consonant or dissonant qualities which emerge from the intervals which are present because of how the polyphonic voices are stacking in the vertical direction too (a source of complexity which came about at the expense of having less sophisticated ornamentation such as little by way of pitch bending or glides).

[@josephyagappan1896]

My doubt lasting for about more than a decade about these 16 swaras ( in piano only 12 keys are there.. hence 7/12 swaras can be clearly understood) cleared by your explanation. Thank you very much... Please keep it up!!

[@arslanpower]

It is somewhat similar to western.. for example in c# scale.. f is called e# because there is f# as well in the scale

[@homecameraroll]

What a articulation of complex subject in a easy way !! Superb...! Enjoyed other carnatic course videos of yours too..! Quality video watching..! God gifted talent..!Thanks..!

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

[@vijithb2528]

Superb! Only now I'm clear with what's R3, G3, D3, and N3 in the swaras..Thank you!!

[@ViolinCineMusic]

Pratibha videos are iconic for carnatic. You are an Iconic person. May god give good health wealth long happy life

[@gopalgovender6542]

அன்பான வாழ்த்துக்கள் பிரத்தீபா அம்மா. இந்த தலைப்பில் பல காணொளிகளை நான் பார்த்திருக்கிறேன், இருப்பினும், நான் மேலும் மேலும் குழப்பமடைந்தேன். உங்கள் காணொளியைப் பார்க்கும்போது எல்லாம் சரியாக புரிந்துக்கொண்டிருக்கிறேன். இந்தக் கருத்தை நீங்கள் நன்றாகக் கற்பித்ததில் நான் மிகவும் நிம்மதியடைந்தேன். நீங்கள் ஒரு சிறந்த ஆசிரியை மற்றும் பாடகி. தயவு செய்து உங்கள் சிறப்பான பணியை தொடருங்கள். இது மிகவும் பாராட்டத்தக்கது. நீங்கள் உண்மையிலேயே ஒரு மேதை. - Loving greetings Madam. I have watched many videos on this topic, however, I was getting more and more confused. When checking out your video I am beginning to understand this concept much better. I am so relieved that you have taught this concept so well. Your are an excellent teacher and an singer too. Please continue your great work. It is much appreciated. You are a genius indeed. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@ankpntamilchannel1662]

Beautifuly explained basic swaras, swara sthanams, swara names thank you so much mam

[@Carnatic16]

excellent madam, even the person who does not know the music can also understand your explanation

[@LalithaParameshwari2020]

Thanks for this video. Mam can u elaborate the swarasthanams with excercise in respective raagas like 1.Mayamalavagowla 2.Pantuvarali 3.shankarabharanam 4.Kalyani 5.karaharapriya 6.Hemavathi and 7.Hanumatodi pls maam as workshop....

[@VoxGuru]

We have a course called 'World of Swaras' in our VoxGuru app where we have covered some of these Ragas in the form of exercises. Do check it out :-)

[@Raagvaishnaviofficial]

I love the way u explain ma'am... very clear and specific... thank you so much 😇🙏

[@BanibrataDutta]

Maam, thanks to this explanation I (think & hope) that I finally understood a tricky concept in western music i.e. why do we use C# in many contexts and Db in some contexts. Your video tutorials are highly appreciated and look forward to new ones.

[@rajasekhar6173]

I have normal voice but I like our music so much you theory is so interesting make me to spend hours and hours , really you are so great teacher .

[@eshaccount]

How beautifully simplified explanation. Thank you.

[@kunalvanwari9783]

What is 22 shrutis? Can you make a video on it.

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[@world-of-mystics1686]

Yes , madam please make a video on this

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My name is Subrahmanyam from Hyderabad just started learning to play Harmonium and also Vocal. I am deeply interested in your session's , they are very useful to beginners.

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Real Guru. Thank you very much Amma.

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Telugulo kuda explain cheste baguntundi mam, chala Mandi Telugu people understand chesukuntaru tq u mam

[@senthilkumaran5751]

Clear voice, very good knowledge and cool body language.very useful for People like me with very basic knowledge of carnatic music. Thank u so much

[@pavanashreek844]

Though not having any classical background... I can understand the difference between swaras.. Really very good explanation...

[@sonalishrivastavanigam1996]

Wow ma'am you just gave us the best answer for my old Question. Thank you so much 🙏👌

[@kieraliska173]

I’m 👋 and this is blew my mind. I came from tiktok in search of what they were singing

[@GreenGSRao]

Amazing clarity in your teaching!

[@ganga6591]

I still have to assimilate & internalise this, Pratibha Ji, along with the names given to each; Giving the example of Ganamurthy & Chalanattai helped. Dhanyawad❤

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Knowing this theories while learning music is important ❤️ TQ mam...

[@rekanaarayanan5373]

Mam your way of teaching is very clear and easy to understand

[@enochbade]

Very complicated bit very easily demonstrated. Great teacher

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In teaching method animation are good and clear,keep it up.

[@fourstringsdown]

You are amazing. Explanation is crystal clear. I am learning all these basics from youtube now. Thank you so much.

[@balamurli5207]

Excellent explanation. Made it very simple. Thanks

[@usharao438]

Very good video. I learnt Carnatic music when I was a teenager. But no understanding of the theory aspect of the music. Your video is compensating and quenching my thirst for knowledge of music . I resumed and relearning music . Thank you for your video. I am 55 now. After so long I restarted my journey of Carnatic music. I missed it as this system is not accessible in northern part of India.

[@mc.selvaginiraajan1403]

Sa - shadjam Ri- sudhdha rishabam Chathushruti rishabam Shatruti rishabam Ga- suddha gaanthaaram Sadhaarana gaanthaaram Antara gaanthaaram Ma- suddha madhyamam Prati madhyamam Pa- panchamam Da- suddha daivatham Sathusruti daivatham Shatshruti daivatham Ni-. Sudhdha nishaadham Kaisiki nishaadham Kaakali nishadham These are the notes of Carnatic music Mam can you post a video on these notes in detail by singing all these types of notes

[@velssax4567]

Thank you madam Elaborately explained Very usefull contents Good service rendering for carnatic field

[@proud_indi2n]

At 1:07, you could have used the terms "smaller" & "bigger" instead of "lower" & "higher". People could easily get confused it with octaves.

[@VinaySharma-vh7mm]

Too good maam..I'm learning classical music theory now and could follow everything you explained..thanks a lot

[@user-xn8fr3mx6d]

Are there any ragas with say R1, R2 and G2 or G3 and likewise R1 or R2 and G2 and G3? If so why and how would one go about singing these?

[@jayshribalakrishnan6439]

That was a crystal clear explanation..well done..thanks a lot ma'am

[@Raagvaishnaviofficial]

I've observed that few singers are good in lower notes like jagjit ji or papon, who barely sing higher and few only sing heigher like Salman Ali they don't sing in low ...is it possible to strengthen both the sides

[@hanushaakaru6841]

was looking for an explanation high and low for this!! Thank you for the detailed answer :)

[@singersabiha]

Best explanation ....you can make us quickly understand the thing hats off mam 👏👏👏👏💐🙏

[@kondapuramseethakumari7654]

Really beautifully explained. Very much appreciable

[@VoxGuru]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@ananthd1131]

Master of teaching swaras...

[@vennelayamini1033]

Fantastic and very clear! Thank you so much mam :)

[@s.u.b.a.t.h.r.a]

Wonderful explanation. 🙏🙏

[@jahnavipenumuchu7391]

This was so helpful id love to have you as my teacher thankyou ❤

[@Ashwini1708]

Hi Ma'am, Does R2= G1 and G2 = R3 mean they can be sung interchangeabliy as long as they are of same frequency? Also if a raaga has "S R1 R2" we will sing it as "S R1 G1" ?

[@mystikemind547]

I have the same question!

[@nav_2709]

The 2nd question, yes we replace R2 with the G1. But first qn we can't change as we please. The particular Swara Structure us given to sing that way. As she said aesthetically it won't sound good.

[@biochemically]

Very enlightening...and excellent use of technology as well.

[@VoxGuru]

Thanks a lot!

[@lalindu100]

Thank you sooooo much for this video ..By using colour codes you have brought out excellent clarity .. Thank you for clearing My long time doubt on swarasthanas

[@jashvap5911]

Thank you mam. You gave more information about swara sthanas.

[@saradsouza3214]

Amazing teaching :) Thankyou!

[@himakumarikota6485]

Thanks for the lesson ma'am

[@kallurisubrahmanyam2108]

Explained very well. Thank you

[@rajanvijayudu1337]

Very informative. Thanks madam!

[@indrasukumar5564]

As a beginner I too try to understand & of course your explanation is awesome 👍

[@sangeetharajani6417]

Wat a beautiful explanation hats off💐💐💐

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

[@pratikmandal2030]

I am not good at music theory but I have got a confusion seeing this turorial. If I see the basic 7 swars as natural major scale that means C D E F G A B. In the frame of octave with 12 half steps, if we take the sharp concept then E and B(without sharp) are fixed which is Ga and Ni. Considering flat concept, F and C(without flat) are fixed that is Ma and Sa. But here I find Sa and Pa are fixed. Why is this difference?

[@anirudhj4433]

Please make a video on how to sing in aakar. Thank you.

[@VivekanandArumanda]

Thanks you so much mam, this channel is a boon to me. Just started out with my Carnatic Vocal classes. You are my second guru 🙏 thank you 🙏

[@Sitaramsdr]

Thank you so much. I have been searching net for the past four days for clarification about this confusing naming of swaras and you made it very clear...

[@purohitchintan66]

Excellent explanation!🙏🏻

[@VoxGuru]

Thanks a lot!

[@kingmusic395]

Very clear

[@GurjotSingh-lz3dr]

Best graphics to learn something..u r the best

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you!

[@preethirajraj8958]

Thank you mam 🙏 Love your way of teaching 😘

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you! Happy that you find it useful!

[@RKTalkies]

Thank you teacher

[@vidhu3494]

Thank you so much mam! This is very helpful!

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Thank you for valueable sharing

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Ma'am you are explaining very very well 🙏

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Your channel is so useful... Exlent 🙏🙏🙏

[@UpbeatLabs]

Awesome lesson! How does this fit in with the 22 note scheme of yore? Would love to see a video talking of the 22 notes!

[@arslanpower]

22 shrutis?

[@UpbeatLabs]

@@arslanpower yes!

[@arslanpower]

@@UpbeatLabs you look up for Dr vidyadhar oak in this regard his research on 22 shrutis is incredible.. you can also search for a play list on KZbin with the name of 22 shrutis simplified... By dr sangeeta Shankar..

[@UpbeatLabs]

@@arslanpower Thank you! We're familiar with Dr. Vidyadhar Oke's work, but this is a great pointer for other readers too! Thanks also for the tip on the video by Dr. Sangeeta Shankar - will check it out for sure! 🙏

[@balupraveen_90]

Simple and profound explanation

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Thanks for sharing valuable information Madam. I am learning flute. I follow your videos as you make the subject so intersting. Could you suggest me best soundproofing technique as i am getting feedback from my neigbours rewarding my flute.

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Your are an encyclopedia for,,, " MUSIC "... 😇😘🥰

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you!

[@jasonpandian5061]

Super Mam. Beautiful explanation

[@aradhyagireesan6554]

Superb ma'am......Thank you so much👌💕

[@ViolinCineMusic]

Excellent Explanation Long term confusion gone

[@mksarav75]

excellent teaching. Thanks a lot.

[@rameshkirankumar3457]

Excellent note.

[@evzentikovsky3592]

namaste..hare krishna..im studiing carnatic music now..and khyal before..im confusing..why ragas should be limited to 12 swaras..why 3 Re and Ga ..if then just 2? some dhrupad pandits says that Sa has diferent shadows..like 7...there are so many unbelievable things in theories..pls explain someone to me...i like the melakarta chakra...there is isuing 16 swaras...ect. the gopis 5000 years ago knows 16108 ragas..thay got teachers from heaven..where music is teach by brahma and saraswati...and thay got thayr knowledge from Krsna or Vishnu...so the God is the absolute teacher and mainteiner...and siting in everyones heart...so \knowlidge should be given like this..in parampara to a surended student with pure heart...namaste..god bles you all

[@mittayasoda1238]

Very good explanation

[@vidhyaak]

Wow super explanation!

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Wonderful explanation

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[@drczura]

2:13

[@aparnasreedhar]

Crystal clear explanation

[@AnaghaChilakamarthi]

madam ur videos are helping me a lot for my classes thank u so much

[@peace3095]

Mam.... I'm great fan of Ur Voice n English speaking . 🙏

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you so much!

[@peace3095]

@@VoxGuru Thanks for the reply.. 🙏💐💐💐

[@jyothipappu8318]

Hi Vox Guru, thank you so much for the videos. I have a question regarding parent melakarta raagas.. why can't R1 and R2 be in same raga? Why are raaga composed with the succeeding note higher and no reputation in swaras? Would be very greatful if you clarify.

[@aravind123gmailcom]

Very nice explanation - thank you!

[@narasimhadattakumar603]

Wonderful Madam. Thank you so much.

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you!

[@Vinayakiran]

Excellent explanation! 🥰🥰🥰👌

[@jjharidev]

The best explanation ever. Thank you so much voxguru.

[@VoxGuru]

Thank you!

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Ua are the best.. Plz cntinue dng...

[@srikrishnaveni.yimani1994]

Simply superb mam