Is Professional Tuning The Best Way To Go? Road King Build Pt. 21

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We are quite surprised how much power this 88 cubic inch Twin Cam made! We brought our 2002 Harley Davidson Road King to Prestige Custom Cycles in Elmsford, NY. We had such an amazing experience having it professionally dyno tuned, almost makes us wish we didn't choose an Autotuner for our other bike. They used the Dyno Jet PowerVision and we removed the Power Commander that was previously installed.
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[@d.r.ledbetter2286]

An established shop with a proper dyno and a person like Andy that knows what they are doing is priceless.

[@Viewson2s]

Priceless

[@VPCustoms]

Absolutely!!

[@mikewoike9429]

My baby 88 pulled wheelies my 01 T-Sport was awesome but at 70 with a brain tumor said no motre. God Bless ya kid enjoy for as long as y'all can.

[@weeepa1446]

I love to see you wrenching, smiling and doing almost everything together 🤜🤛💪💪💪

[@VPCustoms]

😁🙌🏼🤘🏼

[@OldSkoolHarleyGuy1]

Man, you guys turned this bike into a real show-piece/masterpiece!

[@VPCustoms]

😁🙌🏼🤘🏼

[@neano62]

Sounds KILLER 💪 Love that exhaust 🤘

[@carlosfontanez929]

The Road Queen sounds like a beast. I can just imagine hearing it in person, especially now that Pan head Andy put his hands on it. He built the Ultimate Beast with John Tagley's bike from J.E.T FILM. Made it into a 131R. CRAZY. I can't wait to see a new build from you guys at VP Customs. Be safe and God bless.

[@redrider0151]

4.9 hp is like a 6-7% gain...just from a tune!! If you had a car with 500hp, that equates to like 25-30hp....its a HUGE gain jsut from a tune.....and thats only peak hp. I would bet that you gained WAY MORE in the midrange, where it actually counts. You should post the graphs and see how he evened out your torque as well. You want an even torque line and you want the best gains between 3k- 5k in the rpm range.....yeah, peak hp is great, but you are RARELY at that point of peek rpm when riding....the true gains are the midrange increase and the added throttle response...THATS what tuning does for you and thats where you actually feel the changes. You could literally HEAR the difference in how the bike ran...which is FANTASTIC!!! All the delay in throttle is completely gone...that crisp throttle is what I want to hear and feel!!

[@VPCustoms]

Absolutely agree with ya!! 🙌🏼🤘🏼😁

[@ervc1]

I'm so jealous of you 2, you both enjoy the motorcycling lifestyle. Thats awesome...

[@ppuntrotzooizooi7692]

I’m getting an Redshift 468 cam in my RKS 107 ‘17 first week of may and a tune… exited what the outcome will be… RQ is a cool bike for a cool girrll 2!! Loved the noise on the dyno neighbor haters hahhah. Have a good one, keep the rubber down! Until the next guys! 🙌🙌🎉🎉🤘🤘

[@VPCustoms]

Awesome! Thank you! 🙌🏼🤘🏼

[@josephdefelice3149]

Glad you had Andy iron out the rough spots! I knew you wouldn't be disappointed! He is a wealth of knowledge! Now go ride that Queen hard!!

[@VPCustoms]

Thanks dude! He's a magician!

[@Hog-g2z]

Hi 👋, Guys VIP-Costumes , great work, it definitely sounded a lot better and the end , The Soundtrack through my transmission line loudspeaker cabinets, 150 W, NAD , I am on my second DEUCE 88, my first I purchased new in 2000, 2-1 Boomcan , 1550 big kit, Cam ignition oil pump all the mods that I can put into it, I did do a dino run after I done around 2000 odd miles, It’s so long ago, I can’t remember what result was, then I had the work done on the bike, and never went to have it dined again, In 2019 with dust over 48,000 miles on a clock. Immaculate condition., sadly, I had to sell it., my ex partner has scammed me out of a lot of money, I ended up moving to France where I’ll now live, and I’ve just recently picked up an 03 model deuce, this definitely needs work to it. I think it’s been neglected very badly, It’s great when you can take your bike to somewhere somewhere, and you feel confident with the people working on it that you can trust , Thank you for sharing your experience ,

[@VPCustoms]

Thank you for sharing! Sorry about the bad luck with the old bike !!

[@MaxJW-ln4xm]

Have watched Andy & Prestige Cycle before on J.E.T. films. He knows his chit & was glad he was able get it to run better & more efficiently. Numbers aren't everything & since you're not going to race the thing at the track (street), it's good that you have a very street rideable bike.

[@mtdualie1039]

Glad you got the tune. Andy's wizardry made the bike legit and will make it live longer

[@roegiersmusic]

At 13:30, that was a really cool compliment that you had 100% accuracy on your throttle and idle cable adjustments!! 👌🤘I lost count how many times the bars and cables were removed and reinstalled during this build. Well done on the accuracy! I hope to see this Road Queen out in the wild someday. 🤘😎🇺🇸

[@VPCustoms]

Thanks! And that’s so true! We lost count as well! 🥵 🤣

[@scottryan492]

Sounds like that bike runs much better. Now take the road glide to a shop that will work with your Thundermax. My Thundermax works great and my bike runs great but you need to connect to a laptop and make a couple adjustments to timing and AFR targets to get it dialed in for more power. Thundermax will adjust and your bike will run safe by itself but manuel adjustments will get it where you want it. Love your videos! Keep it going!

[@Panhead_Andy]

We also do thundermax at Prestige. Powervision is a much more in depth tuning system with more adjustability than t max.

[@nonyabiz1209]

​@@Panhead_Andy plenty of info on Thundermax vs. powervision. You want better real time adjustment, Thundermax. Smaller incremental timing adjustment, power vision. Any shop with a dyno always 'recommends power vision for obvious $ reasons. I have multiple bikes with both tunes. Both are fantastic.

[@Panhead_Andy]

Yes much more adjustability with Powervision. T max is a closed loop wideband system, stock O2's are narrowband. If you pair the Powervision with Dynojet target tune module and dyno tuning you get the absolute best of both worlds for less cost than a t max ecm

[@ihatesjws669]

​@@Panhead_Andyonly if you have a bike that can take the target tune. That 88 won't be able to do target tune

[@Panhead_Andy]

@@ihatesjws669 yes, you can only put target tune on a bike that had OEM oxygen sensors has an ecm input that target tune can use. So 2006 to present

[@JDHannah-qr2cy]

Great video guys! I love the sound of the queen. I had to replay last weeks dyno instagram reel many times just to listen to that awesome sound. Congrats on a beautiful build!!

[@VPCustoms]

Thank so Much! 🙌🏼😁🤘🏼

[@boogiessweatbox4317]

Awesome video!! Now let’s get this summer going!!!

[@frederickking1660]

Had cyclorama 570-2 cams installed in my 2012 streetglide. 98.7 h.p and 116 ftlbs of torque. And 31 degrees of timing. It's a beast now. Stock top end.

[@DMD81773]

My 06 Road king, I put true duals, slip ons, Arlen Ness Big sucker and S and S 509g gear cams and my numbers were 85hp and 95 torque.

[@FLHXDUDE]

Absolutely awesome guys!!! She turned out so beautiful and I can’t wait to see the first ride with it!!! 👌👍🏼🥃🍺

[@VPCustoms]

Thanks 🙏🏻🙌🏼

[@cerebromecanicow]

The video looks awesome, you guys did a really cool professional tuning job! Greetings from Valencia, Spain! 🇪🇸

[@VPCustoms]

Thanks so much!

[@TCHFXDL]

That is so awesome, cant wait to see some riding videos on that beast

[@VPCustoms]

You and me both!

[@abehatt7887]

That bike sounds sweet!

[@haroldblanton1555]

Sounds great!

[@robertcorrigan3816]

The RoadQueen really sounds awesome. Cin-Cin and Salute 🫶🫡👍👌🫶

[@VPCustoms]

🤘🏼🙌🏼😁

[@Paint_Can]

The small gains in power are definitely good, we all want more power. The better fuel mileage is a bonus too. The rideability and responsiveness are going to be huge! A custom tune is always worth it.

[@VPCustoms]

Right on!

[@dudleydorite7678]

Excellent video

[@VPCustoms]

Thank you!

[@maldog4303]

All of your videos are awesome! I have to say, though... this video is your very best! 👍👍👍 ☆☆Great job☆☆

[@VPCustoms]

Thank you! 🙌🏼🤘🏼😁

[@DavidHansell-t4o]

Great 👍 video guys, that thing sounds like a beast now. You can tell that guy knows what he’s doing 😎Dave H

[@timdavis8154]

A great dyno tuner is a must for the optimum performance.

[@VPCustoms]

Definitely!

[@chadmay5401]

Sounds great can't wait to hear how it go's

[@Hendomonster]

To be able to hear the change in a video speaks volumes. I mean, it is noticeable. Everyone likes to brag about dyno numbers, but it's the power under the curve that you are going to enjoy. Until the big bore kit... 😂

[@VPCustoms]

🤣🤣 very true!

[@johnmccormick6689]

Glad Andy hooked you up with some burnout⚡️power⚡️

[@VPCustoms]

Hell yeah!

[@benjaminhilton1960]

Damn I love that bike. The exhaust is on point

[@VPCustoms]

🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@eggheadrocks8224]

thats respectable gains for a TC88 on a bigger bike like your Road Queen. A lot would snub their noses at 3-5 HP gains, but along with 3-5 gains in torque also, thats going to be really noticeable . you guys rock as always...have a great weekend

[@VPCustoms]

Thank you!

[@CharlesJrSmith]

She is running great and she's Loud and you pick a great tuner he knows his stuff that's what it takes to get a well running bike✌️

[@daleclarkjr]

Dam that bike sounds so different. Panhead is a wizard. Power-vision and a dyno is on my list 🫡🇺🇸🤙🏽

[@almonjacob3496]

Dyno George at Moroneys is a tuning magician.

[@Panhead_Andy]

George is the best I know of with the TTS system he tunes with. Powervision and TTS are top of the line.

[@VPCustoms]

He actually did my Nightrain back in 2014

[@jaycosta7204]

Freaking AWESOME!! How much does that guys charge?? Lol. Awesome job guys!! Sounds AMAZING!! 🤘🏻💯

[@Panhead_Andy]

License to unlock the ECM is about $275 and 4 hours labor at $130 per hour. Call the shop for details

[@eldonmontgomery2465]

makes me smile. Thanks

[@harleydave2316]

I wanted to se the chart curve difference. That means more to me than the numbers game that people get caught up chasing.

[@VPCustoms]

We’ll make sure to show it next video! Just for you! 😁

[@harleydave2316]

@@VPCustoms Awww you're the best!! I have some of those chikla pipes on order for my Heritage which should be here tomorrow. Looking forward to hearing them on my bike with a cam.

[@Panhead_Andy]

That's what I'm always saying. That full throttle pull is only about 10% of the tune. Peak numbers are not as important as the area under the curve and the with of the powerband..

[@mrchopboogie]

The term tune means to make it more efficient throughout the power band. Too many people think a dyno tune is to get the highest number HP possible. A bike tuned for top HP at max rpm may not ride and run good at all. A bike tuned properly will perform better and be more enjoyable to ride.

[@VPCustoms]

Exactly!

[@adamc4655]

The decell noise is awesome

[@VPCustoms]

😮‍💨

[@joeferreira7382]

Sacramento Cali saying how it going my friends , I have to admit your bike sound okay , but I knew something's not correct with it and precise , When mr. andy got done with it ooh baby he done a very good job , You are lucky to put that seat on there now you can hold your butt on there when you get on it 😂😂❤ my 04 fat boy 88 cc , I have 52 inch Samsung 15 degree up sweeps on it Straight pipe , my bike shitts and it gets she runs very nice , but I do know something's not correct yet and when it warms up out I am definitely going to get my friend to put it on a dyno , He is an older gentleman, but 45 years doing dynos on bikes and working on them people love him , You have one beautiful king you built Tanya 🕶 you two be safe out there

[@VPCustoms]

🤣 Thanks so much!! 🙌🏼😁🤘🏼

[@anthonyw3828]

Just used your code at eagle lights for a new headlight for my 03 1800

[@VPCustoms]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@tld522]

Dang .....that things loud!!!! Im in love!!!!!!

[@VPCustoms]

😁🙌🏼

[@SmittyAZ]

What a sweet beast!

[@davedubeau9124]

Nothing wrong with a good twin cam. Your bike sounds kill !! What rims are those?

[@VPCustoms]

Thanks! They are RC Components Dynasty's

[@davedubeau9124]

@@VPCustoms they are sharp looking. Almost looks like spokes

[@Bullwolf1965]

Sounds amazing

[@tld522]

I want you two to know... I just picked up. 2000 road king! I kinda caught the bug from watching this build. It'll be on my channel in a couple weeks!!!

[@VPCustoms]

Congrats!! We'll be looking out for it

[@hessxpress3016]

same place j.e.t films built his motor. those prestige guys are legit

[@123pap]

Sounds much better

[@DavidChavez-do4fj]

U should run white walls to match the seat😊

[@wesleywise2245]

A Fellows gear shaper for splines,Drill Press for ID measurements and good Old American steel (Polished of course) could solve that problem.

[@evelynwilson7586]

Have you had the Thundermax tuned?

[@VPCustoms]

Not yet! but that’ll probably be next!

[@Jhood0729_jerrymesser]

Panhead Andy helped John's bike with JET bad ass build he did.

[@HeinzKampmann]

Damned good sound. Best Regards 🤘

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

OMG IS THAT PANHEAD ANDY !! The tuner *u guys just mentioned it after I posted

[@VPCustoms]

Hell yeah!

[@7.62mike]

I would say it has cams. I have 02 king with cams and strait pipes. Made same power and torque. She looks good. Came a long way in a short time.

[@VPCustoms]

🙌🏼🤘🏼😁

[@bryanmotto5824]

I may have to check out Pan Head Andy myself!

[@VPCustoms]

Highly recommend it! 🤘🏼

[@UncleBogator]

Hell yeah. Any gain is a good gain

[@VPCustoms]

Hell Yeah Brother

[@kickstand5378]

You can get the road glide tuned with a tmax. Find out if andy works with the tmax.

[@renatoalarcon1274]

Nicee bike!!... i have the same chikla pipes on my king i love them....but they too loud on highway...do you have baffles in yours?? If so what brand ? .. I cant seem to find baffles for mine :-(

[@VPCustoms]

Thanks! No baffles in ours. But the brand we have "steady custom cycles" do offer theirs with baffles

[@theboogeyman9813]

Trust in the solo cup

[@VPCustoms]

🙌🏼🤘🏼😁

[@youmustbethistall5861]

Putting a custom tune on the Road Queen was the only way to finish it. I predict a return visit to Prestige with Road Glide soon enough. There's nothing like a great running motor in all the RPM combinations you'll see on any given ride. Buttuh. Had to laugh that Eric was annoyed with Tanya for eating a nut bar...doze nuts...today's TWSS is 1: (From Tanya) "All I saw was going up-n-down, up-n-down..." Ride safe folks!

[@VPCustoms]

We agree! 🤣🤣 🤘🏼🙌🏼

[@sprayonpolish]

Prestige is the way to go...

[@jasonkimble8926]

That's great!

[@w1zard0f0h]

What does he charge to do this? I've been curious.

[@Panhead_Andy]

Tuning license to unlock computer is about $275 and 4 hours at shop labor rate of $130 per hour. Call the shop for all the details

[@thomascloonen2726]

Awsome!

[@Viewson2s]

Sound good 2:00

[@hdrider05]

are you running baffles?

[@VPCustoms]

Straight pipes 🤘🏼 gonna be fun when we have to get it inspected 🤣🥵

[@hdrider05]

@@VPCustoms nj doesn't inspect motorcycles anymore, luckily.

[@MicahBell_1860]

Point of order! Tanya is correct. The navigation is a British chick, not an Aussie chick This was a cool video. Interesting to hear Andy's commentary That white seat cover????? Your bike, your responsibility, Tanya, not Eric's Paused at 18:55: 72-77hp & 87-93ft/lb is my prediction. I love these guesstimation games Rideabilty is way more important than actual figures

[@VPCustoms]

Too funny, I had to go check the Waze settings. You're right, a Brit! Good job on the numbers guess!

[@rlb1126]

Sounds nasty. Great build

[@VPCustoms]

Appreciate it !

[@BlueMaverick1973]

I am confused, it was a power commander or thundermax

[@VPCustoms]

It had a power commander on it. Was speaking about the thundermax on the 05 Road Glide we have

[@BlueMaverick1973]

@@VPCustoms ok. You were not happy with the thundermax. I am running one now on my 22rg and I want to tune it.

[@VPCustoms]

@@BlueMaverick1973 I think they are good, they do need to be dialed in though. Good idea getting it professionally done

[@modsl.i.l.e.2047]

Prestigious absoLuteLy 😊 Road ready now! DefiniteLy diaLed in 🙂 ThrottLe Time ❤️🤍💙 Have a very nice Easter 🐣 Have a nice day 🌞 Once again-->nice peopLe! cya...😎michaeL😎

[@VPCustoms]

Thank you!

[@needmetal3221]

You should show the graphs

[@VPCustoms]

We will next video! Dropped the 🏀

[@kenkenyon444]

We just want the money shot!

[@ssstryker6136]

Guys the real deal, worth the gold per hour x4

[@craigrodda1605]

"Peaces of Torque " LOL

[@VPCustoms]

😁🤣

[@sharkdog111]

Andy is the "Satanic Mechanic " from Rocky Horror Picture Show. Love your guys videos.

[@VPCustoms]

Too funny! Thank you!

[@chosenone2964]

How's it going...going. 😅

[@CD-lm5xq]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@robertcorrigan3816]

Tanya you need a new cycle helmet with silver crown on it, ( like your horn helmet.)

[@VPCustoms]

🤔

[@jimweagant8920]

👍👍👍

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

That bike def has a cam in it u can hear it chopping

[@zap...]

Excessive tongue to the granola bar. 😛

[@josephdavis1797]

How much horse power she putting out

[@VPCustoms]

76 hp

[@hdsquadrides3370]

845!! Baby lol idk why it put eddy Andy

[@KMaC-wt9lr]

So you finally admitted you needed professional help.. 😂👍

[@VPCustoms]

Ohh We’ve been saying it from the beginning! 😏

[@allentraylor5659]

4HP ??................................. How much was the bill ??........

[@VPCustoms]

It doesn't have any internal engine work done. It ran like dog 💩 with the power commander on. No one rides at full throttle all the time, its mid range and power band (usable power) has changed dramatically. A stock 88 comes out of the box with 67hp and we have 76 now. We're ecstatic

[@jasonholby8915]

Not far of a stock 107. A zippers 95 kit, would get it scooting. Check out traveling tall’s road king videos.

[@VPCustoms]

Something for the future for sure!

[@Jeffmd2020]

Isn’t that a carburated bike? Isnt is an 02?

[@VPCustoms]

It's Fuel Injected for a few years I believe it was an option to still get a carb?

[@Jeffmd2020]

@ gotcha. My uncle has a 03 100th anniversary road king and it’s carbureted so I wasn’t sure

[@frederickking1660]

It will run better once it burns off any extra carbon too.

[@Tumble96]

Fucking Heaven, OMG that bike sounds great.

[@VPCustoms]

🤣🤘🏼🙌🏼

[@stevefavia]

Omg that exhaust has got to go!

[@VPCustoms]

🤣

[@hdsquadrides3370]

Panhead eddy

[@joevick8597]

Nice sounds mean

[@johnrode7109]

Please put your seat belt on ,great video thanks

[@VPCustoms]

🤣 it was on! I had the shoulder strap behind the seat..

[@Alanw-xm4pt]

Gotta be very expensive 😮

[@VPCustoms]

It's not as bad as you would think 😁

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

What sort of question is this It’s the ONLY way. Dyno tune by a good tuner. Base maps are just that .. base maps. Canned tunes aren’t really good. I’ve seen some on cars that all have the same combination (not super high performance stuff just basic bolt ons.. and the new ECUs on some cars if tuned really smart can make adjustments and shit but that’s those God level tuners)